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An 1828 birth in Scotland given in the 1841 census in which the person was a boarder at age 12...

Question by SLPH

... with no mention of parents, and none found since. Scotlandspeople web site say birth was not registered. Any other way to find parents ?Not on death certificate

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on 2011-09-14 08:21:36

SLPH has been a Family Tree Circles member since Jun 2011. is researching the following names: SLADE.

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by millorange on 2011-09-14 12:44:18

You don't give a name to give us any chance to look for you - often a marriage certificate lists the parents. . . . .and checking the people she is boarding with can help as they are often relatives - aunts and uncles.

by SLPH on 2011-09-14 16:56:17

Sorry, that was remiss of me,but thanks for your prompt reply. I am no longer researching Slade, but am always on the lookout for Martindales in Scotland as my Great Grandfather,John Anderson Martindale was said (on the 1841 census for Kirkcudbright ) to have been born there. He was aged 12 on the census and was living with a family by the name of Anderson, although his middle name Anderson did not appear until his youngest son Allan was born and given that middle name. It also appeared on John's Gravestone inscription.I think it's almost certain he was related to the Andersons, but I can't find proof. His birth was not registered, his marriage was given only two lines on a parish register stating to whom he was married,where and what date. Nothing about either set of parents. His death certificate,I was told by "scotlandspeople", would not contain parents names, I can't find any Martindales likely to be the parents. I have already investigated one line which gives no clue as to a connection so I feel I have encountered a brick wall. Curiously I did find one Janet Martindale Cowper born about the same time in Kirkcudbright,but to a Margret Johnstone and John Cowper. Her parents were John Johnstone and Janet Charters. I have never been able to find out where her middle name Martindale came from. She gave the middle name Anderson to one of her sons
but that may just be a coincidence. I have also wondered if John's parents were from Westmorland or maybe Carlisle and his Mother was in Kirkcudbright for the birth! So many questions!!but thanks for listening

by asheppard on 2011-09-14 21:58:50

Is this the 1841 you refer to

Name: John Martindale
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Gender: Male
Where born: Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Kirkcudbright
County: Kirkcudbrightshire
Address: St Boreland Cottage
Parish Number: 871
Household Members:
Name Age
John Anderson 55
Elizabeth Anderson 50
Allan Anderson 25
Janet Anderson 9
John Martindale 12
Robert Johnston 7

It is possible that John and Elizabeth were his grandparents, Allan 25 their son and Janet Anderson, John Martindale and Robert Johnston the grandchildren.

It might be another avenue to explore if you can find out who the parents of Janet and Robert are.

Maybe not looks like Janet is the daughter or this John Anderson is the son of the John & Elizabeth on the census, it does seem a bit old to have a 9 year old so it's looking more like they are the grandparents, probably minding the children while parents worked, it wasn't uncommon.

Janet Andersons birth/baptism you will need to check image on Scotland's People site.

03/05/1830 ANDERSON JANET JOHN ANDERSON/ELIZABETH MCMURRAY FR393 F KIRKCUDBRIGHT /KIRKCUDBRIGHT 871/00 0020 0044


John Anderson Martindale gave Johnstone as a middle name to three of his children John b1858 Samuel b1860 and Agnes b1864. So there is a Martindale/Anderson/Johnstone connection somewhere in the mix and oddly enough their first daughter is Margaret b1853.

happy hunting

by SLPH on 2011-09-15 18:33:45

Thank you so much!--I will certainly follow up your suggestions. Actually it is more likely that John Martindale's children were named Johnstone (middle name) as their Grandmother on their Mother's side was a Johnstone, but yes those 3 children may well have been Grandchildren.

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