" CONTENT FISH " ANCESTRY
Hello to all menbers . On the 21st March 2011 when going thro the new posts < I read --> ' Who is "Content Fish " ??? Who are her ancestors '. Members were trying to assist " Maxine06 " to find the answers . In reading on further, I see the marriage to " Holdridge " children of the marriage are their plus more on the Holridge ancestry and very little on the Fish Ancestry.
" Old Faithful" some of you may have heard about , remember - my working mate . was blinking at me asking to give her a task to do.
( She is very jealous of the Newer Machine !! )So i thought _ Ok Find the" Fish " ancestry .This is what she found ( what a worker ! ) The following may assist you " Maxine06 "- Not all is proven . I think it is ( 96 % ) correct and with back up . Their is a couple of Large ancestral gaps Plus a very broken ancestry trail ( even tho' its there )I'll explain as we follow the " Fish " ancestry trail .
from --> Switzerland -( Lauterbrunnen) -->( Fysh)--> Germany -(Inzlingden) ( Fische )--> France --(Basse-Ham)( Fysshe- Fische)--> England (It is believed they landed at ( Harwich -and on to Leicester ) *** Not Proven *** After " William the Conquerer" = 1066 AD ( Fishe )and eventually on to America. " Old Faithful "also found the following
It is from an ancestral book in a very small library in Uk and my own european data file research . The " Fish Family Ancestry " put together way way back by one of the Scot family who married a "Fish " I cannot find info on her to prove this book is correct . I am assumming it is because the data - sentences seem to flow like somebody Knew what they were talking about
To start with The Fish " name has several different spellings yet they all started from the same on the North western side of Hungary
** Not in Book **- From My European data file research ..Shortened version from that Book
The following is Some of the "Fish " Given Names in their ancestry-
and proven - Preserved - Mercy - Obedience- Hope - Recompense- Silence- Constance -Provided- and Captivity( Such strange names ) many did not use them . Thats what made it so hard to follow . So many blind trails - Part of that book that concerns the Fish family-
(This information is part of- taken from a Family His-Tree Book, that my Great-Aunt; Luella Jelly ( ?? ) wrote - I believe that some of her information came from a book by a " Fish " ancester )
The first authentic mention of a FISH family in history is in 1066 when a family of that name followed William the Conquer to England from Normandy. The English Family of Fish is believed to be a branch from an old Saxon family which, in the tables of German nobility, dates from a remote era. The spelling has changed from FISCH, to FISCHE, FYSSHE, FYSSH, FYSH, FISHE and finally in the 16th century the ( e ) was dropped and it became FISH. There are several peculiar Christian names among the Fish families; such as Preserved, Mercy, Obedience, Hope, Recompense, Silence, Constance, Provided, and Captivity.
The Fish Family in America ( my heading ! )
THOMAS FISH, eldest son of ROBERT FISH and ALICE FYSH - both descendants of EDMUND FISCHE of Market Harborough, and his brother John came to America in 1643. They landed at Portsmouth, Rhode Island. Thomas is often mentioned in the Records of the Town Meetings of Portsmouth. He held various offices of Portsmouth and was prominent in the early affairs of Portsmouth Colony. (It is noted that many of the early land owning colonists were unable to sign their names, and used only their mark, while the name "THOMAS FISH" was written in bold legible handwriting.) Thomas married MARY SOULE (?). They had seven children. It was noted that this family was among the survivors of King Philip's War of 1676.
THOMAS FISH, son of Thomas and Mary Fish, was born and died in Portsmouth, RI. He married GRIZZLE STRANGE. They had five children. They are the parents of the first Preserved Fish in the line.
PRESERVED FISH, son of Thomas and Grizzel Fish, was born and died at Portsmouth, RI., also. His death is recorded in the Book of Society of Friends (Quakers). He married Ruth Cook. They had eight children. Their son, Preserved, died at the age of 99. He fell on a hatchet from a cherry tree.
THOMAS FISH, the eldest son of Preserved and Grizzel Fish, was born at Portsmouth, RI. He married MERCY GOGGESHELL, the daughter of John and Mary (Stanton) Coggeshell. The Coggeshells were, also, prominent among the the founders of Portsmouth. Thomas and Mercy had nine children. Thomas moved his family to Dartmouth, Mass. and about 15 years later moved again to the "Oblong" Amenia Precinct, Dutchess County of New York. Thomas died there.
JOHN FISH, son of Thomas and Mercy, was born at Dartmouth, Mass. He married EUNICE_________. They had five children. They are the parents of our Revolutionary War ancestor, Ephriam.
LIEUTENANT EPHRIAM FISH, was born in Amenia Precinct, Duchess County, NY. He enlisted about October 1st, 1776, and served in Captain Peter Van Wort's Company, Col. John McRea's Regiment. On April 28, 1781 he was commissioned Lieutenant and her served fourteen months. He was on an expedition to Lake George and was present at the surrender of Burgoyne. His claim for pension is S-3357. In 1809 he lived at Cincinnatus, Cortland Co. and later in Chenango Co., NY. He was a member of the New York legislature. He married MARY POTTER, daughter of Stephen and Bridget (Allen) Potter. They moved to Lyme, Huron Co., Ohio some time before July 27, 1832, the date his pension was received. Ephriam and Mary Fish had eight children.
BENJAMIN FISH, son of Ephriam and Mary Fish, was born in 1787. Benjamin married DELIA PEASE. I have determined from census records and a document of the settlement of his estate in La Grange County, Indiana that Benjamin and Delia FISH are the parents of Mother's father - Wilson Chester FISH. Benjamin and Delia died in LaGrange County are buried in the Woodruff Cemetery.
The following information has been secured on Benjamin FISH. He served in the war of 1812 with Great Britian. He was fifer in Capt. Elias Benjamin Jr's company of New York Volunteers in the Albany Regiment commanded by Lt. Col. John Mills. He volunteered for one year's service the 31st of Jan. 1813. Records for the Company Pay Roll indicate that he deserted Oct. 16, 1813. (I don't know why he would want to desert such a lucrative service - $9 per month. ?) His desertion must have been justified somehow, however, because he received a bounty land grant for 160 acres. Warrant # 2809, Norwalk, Huron County, Ohio. Vol. 35 page 30.
WILSON CHESTER FISH was born in 1825 in New York. He moved with his family to Huron County, Ohio. He married his first wife, Mary Randel, while living in Ohio. The Benjamin and Wilson Fish families moved to La Grange County, Indiana about 1845 or 1846. The first five children of the Wilson Fish family were born in Ohio and Indiana. Before their last child-Charles- was born they moved to Peoria, Polk County, Iowa. Mary R. died in November 1860.
Wilson then married my mother's mother - Mary E. GRUBB BEARD. Grandmother had two children from her first marriage and then there were six children born to this union. Two of these children died in infancy or early childhood. Wilson died when Mother was so young that she didn't remember much about him but she felt that her mother was the happiest in this marriage of the three that she had.
That part took us into the Amercian ancestry _ the greater part of the trail to approximately 1825 _ think that from this knowledge many gaps could be researched and filled in by others if they wish to do so
As the " Holdridge " part of this query seems to be correct and able to be found and assisted . I went the other way The "Fish " ancestry I had to have a starting point to go into the ancestor's side . I took the Proven Base so I could go either way as follows " Jonathan Fish " -b-1615- Fardon-Northhampshire-England who settled and died in New York 1663 -He was also married Married three times
-Mary / Martha Ireland -1633
-Mary Willingham -1644
-Mary ( ? ) -------- -1654 ( ** not proven Surname missing
Along with others I believe he was one of the family to arrive first in the states. I think his brother may have also . I did not try to prove this - as I was researching backwards to Hungary - This gives us a base line going either way in the research of this family and better still it is a proven base for any one to work from - WE start at Jonathan's Father & Mother back to
1491 AD ( all Proven )
Father-Thomas Fish Fyshe-b-8th may 1584 Warwickshire. Eng -d-12th Jan
1673- Leicestshire - eng'
Mother -Mary Spriggs -b-24th Jan 1585-1st -m- 1609- Leicestshire-Eng'
Children- ( 11 ) ** note ( 3 )John's --> John Fyshe -b-d-same year
- Craddock Fish -b-9th Aug 1612 Northhampshire Eng '
- Ambrose " -b-18th Oct -1613 " "
- ( living ) " -b- 1614 ( not proven )
-Jonathan " -b- 16th Feb-1615 Northhampton Eng'
-John Fyshe " -b-d- -1616 " "
-John " -b- 1617 ( ?? ) -d-1663-Massachussetts USA
-Nathaniel " -b- 1618 Northampton Eng
-John " -b 21st Jan 1621- -d- 1689 - Connecticut USA
-Esther " -b- 21st Dec 1622 ( no place found )
-Hannah " -b-5th Oct 1625 Leicester Eng
-Nathaniel " -b-7th March 1629 -d- 1631 ( 2 yrs old ) "
** Note -As you can see a minefield with ( 3 )- " Johns ) and ( 2 )
" Nathaniels " when researching . In the future if following the children Take care before a real tangle occurs . This is why I have Documented it clearly.
-G-Father-John Fish-b-1565-m-1577-d-19thFeb-1625 Leicester
-G-Mother- Margaret Craddock -b-1557-d-28th April 1630 ""
-( Inlaws )
William Sprigge -b- 1555- m-1584 -d- ( ? )** note the (e )end
Mrs ( william Sprigge-b-1563 ( not proven )
-Augustine Fish --b-1525 - m-1550 -d-26th Aug 1579 Leicester Eng
-Henrietta Farmer -b- 1529 - ( ????? ) needs researching
-Edward Fish -b-1491-m-( ? ) -d- 1516 Leicester Eng
- Mrs Edward Fish -b-1495 " ' ( not proven )
Their is a big gap in 1491 to approx' 1066 AD Yoy might needto try and research church records. In this brief piece of research on your families ancestry. I did not research them I am sure their is a path thro that gap .
~**#~* ( please excuse me a moment - " Old faithful" Moi working mate - is trying to get my attention and is blinking furiously . " What do you want " - " You have found more ? " Ok -OK - " I am back I will put on this extra that she found . I don't know whether you are related or not. I have only just read it - I think you are .
The Fish family is a family of American politicians. The family is of English origin and is descended from Jonathan Fish  (1615–1663), who was born in East Farndon, Northamptonshire, England and settled in the Province of New York.
* Hamilton Fish (1808–1893), candidate for New York Assemblyman 1834, U.S. Representative from New York 1843–1845, candidate for Lieutenant Governor of New York 1846, Lieutenant Governor of New York 1848, Governor of New York 1849–1851, U.S. Senator from New York 1851–1857, U.S. Secretary of State 1869–1877. Father of Nicholas Fish II and Hamilton Fish II.
o Nicholas Fish II (1848–1902), U.S. Chargé d'Affaires to Switzerland 1877–1881, U.S. Minister to Belgium 1882–1885. Son of Hamilton Fish.
o Hamilton Fish II (1849–1936), New York Assemblyman 1874, 1876–1879, 1889–1891, 1893–1896, delegate to the Republican National Convention 1884, U.S. Representative from New York 1909–1911. Son of Hamilton Fish.
o D. Maitland Armstrong (1836–1919), U.S. Consul in Rome, Italy 1869–1871; U.S. Chargé d'Affaires to the Papal States 1869; U.S. Consul General in Rome, Italy 1871-1873. Nephew by marriage of Hamilton Fish.
+ Alfred C. Chapin (1848–1936), New York Assemblyman 1882–1883, New York Comptroller 1884–1887, Mayor of Brooklyn, New York 1888–1891; U.S. Representative from New York 1891–1892. Father-in-law of Hamilton Fish III.
+ Hamilton F. Kean (1862–1941), New Jersey Republican Committeeman 1905–1919, delegate to the Republican National Convention 1916, Republican National Committeeman 1919–1928, candidate for U.S. Senate from New Jersey 1924, U.S. Senator from New Jersey 1929–1935. Grandnephew of Hamilton Fish.
+ Hamilton Fish Armstrong (1893–1973), U.S. diplomat; editor Foreign Affairs 1928–1972. Son of D. Maitland Armstrong.
# Hamilton Fish III (1888–1991), New York Assemblyman 1914–1916, U.S. Representative from New York 1920–1945, New York Republican Committeeman 1936. Son of Hamilton Fish II.
# Robert W. Kean (1893–1980), delegate to the Republican National Convention 1936, U.S. Representative from New Jersey 1939–1959, candidate for U.S. Senate from New Jersey 1958.
Well Maxine ( 06 ) I hope this assists your original query of
" Who is Content Fish ??? Who are her relatives - I will be web-hopping in France -and Europe next week- I'll be in Baden Germany at some stage on other ancestry work . If I get a chance
I'll try and hunt a few bits and pieces that I have noted but yet to prove. The notes also take in part of that gap in England. May find other info to correct anything to make things more accurate
All the best in your research , Till we meet again - Regards -edmondsallan