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My Grandfather was a Barnardo Home Boy sent to Canada in 1907. His Mother was Mary Jane Smith at the time of his birth and later married ALFRED JUPP DENYER. According to the 1911 Census in London England, they were both 34 years old (approx.). I was always told that my Grandfather Frederick William Smith was an only child. It turns out that he had two half brothers, Nathan Denyer and Edward Charles Denyer who were both alive when my Grandfather was sent to Canada. That means I have relatives in the U.K. !!! Looking for any descendants of ALFRED JUPP DENYER or MARY JANE DENYER (nee Smith). She apparently remarried to a Mr SEARLE in 1916.

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by noggin on 2013-08-18 12:31:22

Alfred Jupp Denyer appears to have been born in 1864.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Alfred Jupp Denyer
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1864
Registration District: Chichester
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 321

"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
Name: Alfred Jupp Denyer
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 24 Apr 1864
Christening Place: Sutton, Sussex, England
Mother's Name: Fanny Denyer
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03634-5
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1041568
Reference ID: it 1 p 68

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Alfred Jupp Denyer
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1897
Registration District: Petworth
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 725
Spouse: Mary Jane Smith

I think this is the census you refer to:

1911 census
Address:Wish Cottage New Church Road Hove Sussex
DENYER, Alfred 1872 Sussex Hangleton
DENYER, Mary Jane 1872 Sussex Hurstpierpoint ***
DENYER, Nathan Thomas Alfred 1899 Sussex Portslade
DENYER, Edward Charles 1905 Sussex Portslade

*** married 16 years.

There was also this:
Census 1911
Address: The Bungalow Sutton and Pulborough
Reg. District: Petworth County: Sussex
DENYER, Alfred Rupp Servant 1864 Gardner Domestic (States he is single)

UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
Name: Nathan Thomas Alfred Denyer
Birth Place: Portsmouth
Death Date: 21 Aug 1918
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Brighton, Sussex
Rank: Rifleman
Regiment: King's Royal Rifle Corps
Battalion: 13th Battalion
Number: R/37970
Type of Casualty: Died of wounds
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre

I think this might give more questions than answers. How do you know Your M J Smith married Alfred Jupp Denyer? Do you have the full records for Frederick William Smith, Birth reg and his records while with Dr Barnardo Home (as a relative I believe you are able to request them)

by gsmithwalkden on 2013-08-18 12:37:52

Thank you so much! I have the papers from Barnardo's and the name on there is Mary Jane Denyer but I was stuck as I didn't know if her maiden name was Smith. I now know that I AM really a smith!! Shame about Nathan. My Grandfather was in France in WWI. He served with the 20th Batallion Queens Own Rifles Canada. I come from a long line of military. I myself was in the Air Force and served 3 tours in Afghanistan so it is interesting to see that one of my Grandpa's brothers also served. I really appreciate this information.

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