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DINNER / DENNER Family Devon & Cornwall, England 1790--> SA, VIC, NSW & QLD Australia

Journal by allycat

Dear FamilyTreeCircle Members, Hi. I'm looking for any connections with these families:-

DENNER/DINNER

Richard DENNER (my 4g grandfather) was born abt 1790 England (probably Cornwall) occupation Labourer 1841 Census, married unknown unknown. Had at least one child that I can find at present, James DINNER^ also known as James DENNER (my 3g grandfather) born 1818 Newton Abbot, Devon, England.

^ PANDORA - Australia's Web Archive Click on BROWSE ALPHABETIC LIST, then SELECT THE LETTER OF THE SURNAME YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.

Information from this website is listed as under in italics:-

"FIRST FAMILIES 2001

First Family Member Details
Surname: DENNER
Given Name(s): James
Occupation(s): Steam engine maintenance

Birth Details
Birth County,
Region, Province: Devon
Birth Country: England

Death Details
Death Town: Kialla West
Death State/Territory: Victoria
Death Country: Australia
Death Date: 1898

Immigration Details
Air/Port Landed: Adelaide
Ship/Plane: Canton
Year Arrived: 1846

Canton 1846 from London 27 - 04 1846 via Plymouth, Captain Daniel Friend, arrived Port Adelaide on 31-07-1846

Bound for South Australia



Surname: PYNE
Given Name(s): Mary Ann

Birth Details
Birth County,
Region, Province: Cornwall
Birth Country: England

Death Details
Death Town: Kialla West
Death State/Territory: Victoria
Death Country: Australia
Death Date: 1896

Immigration Details
Air/Port Landed: Adelaide
Ship/Plane: Canton
Year Arrived: 1846


Family Stories

Life in Australia:

James & Mary Ann came to South Australia with others from Cornwall in answer to the call for men who were accustomed to working deep lead mines. James was not a miner: he maintained/worked the steam engines, but soon after coming to Australia he was listed as a farm labourer. When gold was discovered in Victoria the family came to the Daylesford area; James was known to work a dredge at one stage, then had a farm. When eldest daughter Lavina married, the family settled on a neighbouring farm at Kialla West, where Eliza married another's neighbour's son, William McCarron, to become my grandmother.

You and Your Family:

Our story is told under the name of McCARRON

Life Before Australia:

Nothing concrete is known of the life of James and Mary Ann in England. James could not read and write, so there are no letters, but the family "legend" says the Denners came as Hugenots from Alsace to Somerset, then to Devon. This is denied by the Hugenot Society in England, which says no refugees came to England from there! The family legend continues that James, as a boy of 16, went to Cornwall to learn to work the steam engines. There he married Mary Ann Pyne,obviously,but no documents can be found. His death certificate lists two children born in Cornwall (just the county given) and apparently Richard died, because only Lavina was with them when they landed in Adelaide in 1846. We do not have a location for them in either Devon or Cornwall. James's death certificate says his father was Richard Denner, bootmaker, but he does not appear in any list we have found so far.

Descendants


Children
DALDY, Emily DENNER, Charles DENNER, Elizabeth
DENNER, Henry DENNER, James DENNER, Richard
DENNER, William MCCARRON, Eliza PETHYBRIDGE, Lavina

NB: Superscript behind each descendant name represents the lineage number of that descendant.
This family information was last updated by LILIAN BEATRICE KIRK on the 23 December, 2000. "



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Building on the above information, this is my research as follows:-

James DINNER married 4 April 1841 Stoke Climsland, Cornwall (died 1898 Euroa% VIC Australia) to Mary Ann PINE born 17 Dec 1820, South Hill, Cornwall (died 1896 Euroa VIC Australia). Mary Ann PINE was the daughter of Richard PINE and Elizabeth CRUSE. (Elizabeth CRUSE had first married George JANE 1759-1808). Mary Ann PINE had two known elder siblings, Elizabeth PINE born 1811, and Henry PINE born 1814 all born South Hill, Cornwall.

James DENNER died aged 79years, 28 March 1898 Euroa VIC Australia. He is buried at the Kialla Cemetery. His wife Mary Ann died aged 76years, 25 Dec 1896 also at Euroa. I haven't found a burial location as yet.

% Historical Fact: Euroa was where famous Bushranger Ned Kelly and his gang stuck up the local bank.

James & Mary Ann DINNER had 9 children. First 2 children born England, last 7 born Australia. Family settled Adelaide, South Australia; various parts of Victoria and New South Wales.

1.Richard DINNER chr. 5 Dec 1841 Stoke Climsland, died 1844 Eng.
2.Lavina DENNER born 1843 unknown, England
married 1860 at Tara VIC to Richard PETHYBRIDGE, issue...
James and Mary Denner, and child (Lavina) arrived in Adelaide SA from Plymouth 31.7.1846 aboard the ship "Canton", the journey taking some 3 months.
3.James DENNER born 1847 Adelaide, South Australia
married 1875 Christina LAW. They had two children.
1)James 1876-1952
2)Henry Thomas 1878-1953 married Emma LANGTON
4.Henry DENNER born 1849 Adelaide, South Australia
married 1874 VIC to Charlotte Sally DIXON, issue 9 children.
1)Sarah Kate DENNER married Albert PROWD @ (probable relations)
2)Thomas Charles DENNER ...died young
3)Mary Ann DENNER married Walter WALKER
4)Charlott Fleming DENNER ...died young
5)William Henry DENNER married Elizabeth PROWD @
6)Harry James DENNER married Elizabeth ONELY
7)Charlotte Emily DENNER married John PASS
8)Richard John DENNER ...died young
9)Lillian Maud DENNER married William HARVEY
5.Elizabeth DENNER born 1850 Adelaide, South Australia
married 1878 VIC William MCCARRON issue...
6.Eliza B. DINNER born 3 Dec 1856, Back Ck, Bourke, Victoria, Australia *
7.William DUINER (sic) born 1860 Tara, Victoria, Australia
8.Emily DINNER born 1862 Malm, Victoria, Australia
married 1882 Kialla West VIC to Vincent DALDY, died 1884 in childbirth, had daughter named Emily who died young before her 3rd birthday 1884-1887.
9.Charles DENNER born 1864 VIC, died Condobalin NSW

* gg grandmother, married John Henry PARKER

PARKER/DINNER

John Henry PARKER born abt 1850, Australia married 8 Oct 1877 at Grenfell, New South Wales to Eliza B. DINNER. I've only been able to find seven children, but my grandmother, who is 93 yrs old, tells me there were more!

1.Susan Jane PARKER born 1878 Grenfell NSW Australia (10368/1878)
2.Esther PARKER born 1879 Grenfell NSW Australia (11133/1879)
3.Caroline PARKER ** born 3 Aug 1883 Grenfell NSW Australia
4.Ellen E. PARKER born 1887 Grenfell NSW Australia (22194/1887)
5.John H. PARKER born 1890 Grenfell NSW Australia (15133/1890)
6.Phebe A. PARKER born 1892 Grenfell NSW Australia (15481/1892)
7.Violet M. PARKER born 1895 Grenfell NSW Australia (3737/1895)

** g grandmother, married Henry AMOR

PHOTOGRAPH is of my grandmother's parents...Henry AMOR & Caroline PARKER. If the photo looks a little odd it is because it was restored. Pic was in dreadful condition and was exceedingly small in size. It lay in my grandmother's drawers unknown to myself, the firstborn grandchild (and family historian), until an appearance just recently. With the wonders of modern technology, a fireplace was inserted in the background and pretty flowers added to the mantle. And Great Gran was given a new dress and body! It's kind of like breathing new life into one's ancestors.

Caroline PARKER married 4 Jul 1904 to Henry AMOR born 1876 Rochester VIC Australia. He was the son of William AMOR and Ann Priscilla WHEELER of Wiltshire, England. Henry & Caroline AMOR had five children, of whom four have now passed on, leaving my grandmother the last of her generation.

Regards, Alison
QLD Australia.

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by Hannelie on 2007-08-27 14:36:40
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by Hannelie on 2007-08-27 14:41:59
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by Ammej on 2007-11-02 00:44:18

Hi There

Are you able to explain what the issue is around child no 5 as this is where my family tree kikck's in it would seem,

Thanks Jemma

5.Elizabeth DENNER born 1850 Adelaide, South Australia
married 1878 VIC William MCCARRON issue...

by allycat on 2007-11-02 00:47:24

Dear Jemma, "Issue" is just one of those genealogical terms that means "children". Sorry for any confusion.

Alison.

by BarryStopps on 2008-10-05 20:34:15

You have told us that your ancestors James and Mary DENNER came out to Australia on board the "Canton" in 1846. I also have a great great uncle Launcelot STOPPS who came out to Sydney in 1848 from a small village in Oxfordshire called Aston Rowant. I have been searching with no success for a photo of the Canton. Have you found any phots of the ship in your searches that I might have a copy of?. I would be most gratefull for any informationj regarding a photo.

Regards

Barry Stopps
Sydney

by allycat on 2008-10-06 03:05:40

Dear Barry, I've as yet not been able to source a photograph of the ship 'Canton' that my ancestors sailed on to Australia however that is one of my aims. I believe it was either a clipper or a bark.

Perhaps someone on RootsChat may be able to help. Register as a new user, free site, then goto their Emigrants to Australia board.

Let me know if you find anything please. Thanks, Alison.

by ehsteiner on 2010-05-08 15:53:41
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