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Do You know of John CRICHTON arrived in Port Phillip Bay Vic, Australia,1841

Question by Pinochio

He arrived on the ship "LYSANDER" at Port Phillip Bay, Victoria about 1841.
He was said to be 25 years of age and that does work back to his biorth year of 1816.
He was the second son born to William & Marjory CRICHTON of Alyth, Perthshire, Scotland
It also seems as though he married Mary WILSON in 1857 in Victoria.
Between 1848 - 1854 Five {5} of his brothers and sisters arrived in NSW and they stated on their immigration
records of a brother John in Victoria..
If you know anything of this man's family please contact me.

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on 2013-06-24 01:55:39

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by FRATER on 2013-06-30 00:24:22

https://familysearch.org/tree/#view=tree&person=K6QM-VKB&section=pedigree

The above link may help but you search https://familysearch.org/tree/#view=search
T record shows he died in Bullingong NSW Aust (could be Wollongong) You may have to cut and paste the address if no link
Eric

by janilye on 2013-06-30 07:34:00

It might be Bullengong which was near Wagga, just south, north of Lockhart. It doesn't exist now. It was a very large Station (sheep) owned by the Davidson's at one time.

by janilye on 2013-06-30 07:40:46

Oops, that's Bullenbong according to this:
Henry and Charles Davidson were the younger sons of the large family of Alexander Davidson and his wife Anne (née McCallum) of "Bullenbong" station, 30 miles west of Wagga Wagga. Alexander Davidson had arrived at the district in 1843 with his wife and two children and their possessions in a bullock waggon. Davidson and his partner George Robertson took up 22,400 acres of country along Bullenbong Creek in early 1844. By 1856 Davidson had purchased his partners interest. As the district developed with the township of Wagga Wagga its hub, "Bullenbong" became an overnight stopping place for coaches, and Alexander Davidson took advantage of this by building a hotel, stables and blacksmith shop just west of Bullenbong Creek at the intersection of the Lockhart and French Park Roads.
and I thought it was Bullengong - half right!

by tonkin on 2013-06-30 20:09:59

There was a John CRICHTON and Mary WILSON married in Victoria in 1857 but I'm unable to locate any children for them in the Victorian birth records. It's also possible this was a second marriage for Mary and WILSON was her married name.

by janilye on 2013-07-01 10:15:39

On the immigration of John Crichton, does it happen to give his occupation? I've found a John Crichton who was a baker living in Peel Street, Collingwood in 1856 and have so far managed to follow him up to 1892, through his different bakery shops. Can you let me know if it's worthwhile following this particular John.

by Pinochio on 2013-07-17 05:27:19

To Tonkin: In answer to all the questions my John CRICHTON was listed as a Farm Servant. His father was a Farmer but none of his brothers stayed in farming. I'm pretty sure that marriage is his and a lady did send me a list of their children.
All I've got to do is find it amongst all the bits of paper.

To Janilye: His two brothers were working as Millers in Tumut and Adelong Crossing, NSW at times for a relative who I suspect sponsered or at least persauded them to come out . He was Henry MOON who had married Janet Kidd CRICHTON their cousin. which is probably not all that far from Wagga Wagga I don't think, but in those days it would be a very long hike.
I doubt he was a baker but I've been known to be wrong sometimes.

To Frater; I'll check out the link thank you.

Geoff Masters { my mother was a CRICHTON}

by tonkin on 2013-07-17 05:53:29

Hi Geoff.

I've only just replied to your private message.

Once you find those bits of paper with the names of the children it may assist with further research. The more details the better.

Cheers.

by tonkin on 2013-07-17 20:36:12

It now appears to me the maiden name for the Mary WILSON married to John CRICHTON in 1857 may have been ROTHWELL.

There was a William Henry WILSON and Mary ROTHWELL that had a son named William Henry WILSON born/died 1856 in Collingwood. I have not located any other children for them and I have not located a possible death of Mary's husband.

As mentioned earlier there were no children recorded for John CRICHTON and Mary WILSON, but there are children recorded for John CRICHTON and Mary ROTHWELL, the first being born in 1858, which fits with the 1857 marriage.

by tonkin on 2013-07-17 22:07:23

These are the six children born to parents John CRICHTON and Mary ROTHWELL.
Mary's second given name was sometimes recorded as Catherine.

1.

Catherine CRICHTON.
Born: 1858 Melbourne, Victoria.

2.

John Alexander CRICHTON.
Born: 1859 Melbourne, Victoria.
Died: 1862 not recorded, Victoria.
Age: 02 years.

3.

Henry Jane CHRICHTON.
Born: 1863 Williamstown, Victoria.
Note spelling of surname and given names.

4.

Ellen Duncan CRICHTON.
Born: 1865 Williamstown, Victoria.

5.

Alexander John Mathew CRICHTON.
Born: circa 1866 Williamstown, Victoria.
Died: 1874 not recorded, Victoria.
Age: 08 years.

6.

Franc (Frank) CRICHTON.
Born: 1868 Echuca, Victoria.
Died: 1877 not recorded, Victoria.
Death recorded as Frank CRICHTON.
Age: 09 years.
Death index gave Frank's birth place as Williamstown.

Would be intersting to know if these are the same children appearing on the list passed on to you.

by tonkin on 2013-07-17 23:04:10

This appears to be the death of Mary CRICHTON nee ROTHWELL.

Name: Mary Catherine Spencer CRIGHTON.
Died: 1898 Williamstown, Victoria.
Age: 67 years.
Father: Matthew ROTHWELL.
Mother: Catherine unknown.
Ref: Registry of Deaths, Victoria. Reg #5366.

by tonkin on 2013-07-18 00:41:50

DEATH.

Name: John CRICHTON.
Died: 1904 Williamstown, Victoria.
Age: 82 years.
Father: unknown.
Mother: Catherine unknown.
Ref: Registry of Deaths, Victoria. Reg #3380.

Have nothing to confirm if this is the death of your John CRICHTON, but there is a very good chance he will be the husband of Mary ROTHWELL and is worth a second look.

by tonkin on 2013-07-18 02:07:15

DEATH of John and Mary's first child.

Name: Catherine HAXBY.
Died: 1935 Williamstown, Victoria.
Age: 77 years.
Father: John CRICHTON.
Mother: Mary Catherine ROTHWELL.
Ref: Registry of Deaths, Victoria. Reg#5888.

You may have the HAXBY name on your tree.

by Gepeto on 2014-12-27 01:51:35

Hi Tonkin,
Im extremely sorry it has taken so long to get back to you but I had no idea you had left me a message. I was admitted to hospital in September 2013 and after release when I got home I never gave this website another thought.
The John CRICHTON you found is the correct one and I have a;; of it except for two of the kids you have listed so I will look into those and add them.
I do thank you for all the help you have been to me, I hope one day I can reciprocate
and help you out.

Regards
Geoff
(Gepeto}changed the username.

by janilye on 2014-12-29 09:37:36

Williamstown Chronicle, Saturday 26 March 1904
Mr J. Crichton.

On Monday last a well-known resident passed away in the person
of Mr John Crichton. Deceased, who died at his residence, Dover-road,
North Williamstown, had reached, the advanced age of 82 years, and
was a colonist of 56 years, having been em ployed by the Melbourne Harbor Trust
for a lengthy period.
The funeral took place on Wednesday last, his remains being followed to the Williamstown Cemetery by a large number of mourners.

by tonkin on 2014-12-29 20:49:26

Not a problem Geoff.
Remember to keep your user profile up to date with current email address,
otherwise you will not be notified when someone replies to your postings.

Cheers.

by janilye on 2014-12-30 09:59:01

The barque, Lysander (Capt. William Currie) arrived in Port Phillip on the 22 October 1841 having left Plymouth on the 15th. July. surgeon superintendent was John Sullivan Esq., M.D.,
Lysander carried twelve cabin passengers, five intermediate and 241 emigrants; 50 of those emigrants went on to Sydney on the William Hughes, which arrived in Sydney on the 2 November.
Your John Crichton's name appears as - John Crugton / Creighton 25 (single man 5) Perth

by Gepeto on 2015-01-02 23:02:38

Hello Janilye,

I thank you profusely for the trouble you have gone to on my behalf, my first question for you though is this; Does this family have any connection to you ?
the 2nd is Would the term that you quote in brackets (single Man 5 ) mean that this 5 were part of the Intermediate Passengers listed ?
I have a note that states "i read where John paid his own way to Australia."
If that is correct then I could see that maybe he would have booked passage with a cabin.
Again, I thank you for your help with John.

Cheers
Geoff

by janilye on 2015-01-03 01:08:19

Hello Geoff,
I have no connection with this family at all.
He was a bounty emigrant and paid 19 pounds.
5 was a number he was assigned in Intermediate.
I've dug this put of State records for you to have a look at
Passenger list Lysander
You will find him on page 7 the 5th. one down
Sorry I don't have time to transcribe it myself today. It's likely someone else has at some time but at the moment I am not able to look

by Gepeto on 2015-01-14 00:31:02

Hi Jan,
Thank you for the link, I'll check it out.
I don't expect yuou top transcribe things for me, I can do that.
Once again I thank you for going to all this trouble.

Regards
Geoff

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