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I have been doing a lot of research on my original
ancestor, Captain John King, who was born most likely in
1629 at Boyle Abbey, Boyle, Roscommon, Ireland. However,
there is a possibility that date is wrong. I just think
that is the most likely year he was born. He is listed
as possible immigrating to Massachusetts in 1645 at the
Age of 16. He is alleged to have married a Sarah Conway,
who was born in Dublin, Ireland.

As far as who his parents are, I think the most commonly
listed information (that he is the Son of Sir John King)
is incorrect. If you go to the various websites about
the History Of Boyle, Ireland, Sir John King was born
between 1560 and 1580 in Stafford, Yorkshire, England.
Who is father is I cannot find anywhere. He became a
hugely powerful landowner in Boyle, of which he settled
in 1603 there. He had several children, none of whom
are mentioned as having to ever traveled to America.
In addition, his son Edward King, born in 1612, attended
Cambridge University, met John Milton, and later was
eulogized in a famous poem by Milton.

I don't believe that Captain John King is Sir John King's
son. What I have seen on other websites is more
plausible. Reverend Edward King was born in 1577 at
Stukely,Cambridgeshire, England (the hometown of British
Prime Minister John Major). His father was Thomees
King. No information about him, except that he was born
at Magdalen Laver, Essex, England in 1550. In the late
1590s Edward King attended the first years of Trinity
College, Dublin. In 1604, he got his Master's from
Cambridge University. He married Anne Coxsed of
Cambridgeshire (1577 - 1626) in 1609.
From 1611 to
1639, Reverend Edward King was Bishop of Elphin, Ireland
for the Anglican Church. He had fifteen children between
his two wives. He remarried a Grace Sampson, daughter
of Thomas Sampson, a Anglican minister who leaned towards
puritanism in thinking. In 1611, he had a son named
James. In 1612, he had a son named John.

The Son John (1612 - ?) has no information whatsover on
his life. Now, if Captain John King was born in 1629,
the Son John would have had his namesake child at the
tender Age of 17. However, if Captain John King is
actually the Son of Reverend Edward King, the reverend
would have been 51 years old. However, Grace Sampson is
said to have had children, and thus she was probably at
least twenty years younger than her spouse. Therefore,
if the Son of Reverend King, his Mother would have to be
Grace Sampson, if he was born in 1629 (because Anne
Coxsed died in 1626).

There is another possibility. Captain John King may
actually have been born in 1612, and be the John listed
as Reverend Edward King's son. The 1629 date may have
been confused with the date of birth of Sir John King of
Boyles' son John.

Confused? Yes, you should be. Basically, however, I
don't believe that websites that claim that Captain
John King is the Son of Sir John King and Catherine
Drury (a direct descendant of Edward King). I am sorry
to disappoint those who want their ancestor to be
related to Winston Churchill and Princess Diana through
Catherine Drury, but that doesn't appear to be the case.

I will tell you, however, that if Captain John King is
the child or grandchild of Reverend Edward King, you are
also getting a good deal. Reverend Edward King got his
Bachelor's and Doctorate from Trinity College and his
Master's from Cambridge University. He is listed as
the "Archbishop of the Anglican Church Of Ireland".

I guess, either way, it is not nice to know that Reverend
Edward King and Sir John King were both invaders. There is the
downside, too. Irish Catholics see the two of them as
the representatives of an alien English Protestant
invasion. Sir John King had a few tens of thousands of
acres of land in Ireland. He also was a military leader
who crushed Irish rebellion.

Reverend Edward King is listed as a good bishop, but
still his Kilmore Estate was raided and taken over in the
early 1640s (after his death) by Irish Catholic rebels.
His second wife, Grace Sampson, is listed as being the
unwilling hostesses of the rebels.

Surnames: King Sampson Drury
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by Doug177 on 2014-11-30 11:50:20

In the age of DNA testing have there been any refinements to your hypothesis?

by lizjohnson on 2016-03-25 23:34:51

I found a Google Book on the family of Sir John King and Catherine Drury King. It appeared that because they were aristocracy, all their male children were appointed to official positions in Ireland and none emigrated. Is Captain John King the same as John King of Weymouth? I thought Catherine Drury King was his mother for the longest time, then broke the connection on realizing my error. I checked and John King of Weymouth had no parents attached.... still doesn't.

by StephenD on 2018-05-04 11:06:27

It appears that Catherine King (nee Drury) died in 1617, so if Captain John King was born in 1629, well, the implication is obvious! However, as I don't know when Catherine was born, she may have been the good Captain's mother (i.e. still of child-bearing age) if he was born in 1612. It's also possible that Sir John King married for a second time after 1617, but I haven't seen anything to suggest that this is the case.
You seem to be stating that Catherine is a direct descendant of Edward King (whoever he is) but I can find no reference to the King family in the Drury family tree. Nor can I find any link to the Churchill or Spencer families. Perhaps you could elaborate on the information you have.

by StephenD on 2018-05-04 11:34:51

Correction: I can find no reference to the King family in the Drury family tree OTHER THAN THE MARRIAGE OF CATHERINE DRURY TO SIR JOHN KING.

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