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Enoch Odling + Robert Hall ODLING - father & son

Journal by ngairedith

this timeline of Enoch Odling and his son Robert Hall Odling was researched and written to establish that Robert Hall (aka 'Fred') Odling is not buried at Bolton Street Cemetery as supposed. He was born here, married here, had a child, then buried his young wife 9 months after marriage in plot 121K at Bolton street, (where, it is recorded, he was buried 2 days prior). He then went to Queensland where he later remarried, came back to NZ and had a son then returned to Queensland to be near his parents and most of his siblings. He can be seen below in court with his mother in 1895, his son was enrolled in Taringa school, Queensland in 1903 and Electoral Rolls have him in Queensland until his death. He is buried in Toowong cemetery. A number of written records have him as Robert Hall 'Fred' Odling in NZ and also in Queensland
The cemetery database has him as Frederick R H Odling

Enoch Odling was born 1832 in Swineshead, Lincolnshire to Robert & Mary Odling
Robert Hall Odling was born in New Zealand in 1862 to Enoch & Susan Odling

T I M E L I N E
Red indicates Enoch Odling
Blue indicates Robert Hall 'Fred' Odling


1859
Wellington Independent, 11 October 1859
WELLINGTON MAGISTRATE'S COURT
... Mundle v Odling, Wilson, Haggard, Foley, Olson and Phillip Cannell, was charged with refusing to do their duty as seamen on board the barque 'Snaresbrook'. Adjourned after hearing for application to the Supreme Court


1859
Wellington Independent, 6 December 1859
WELLINGTON SUPREME COURT 1 December 1859
WILFUL MURDER ON THE HIGH SEAS
... JOHN and CHARLES STRAKER, late Captain and Chief Officer of the barque Snaresbrook, were placed at the bar and charged with the wilful murder, on the high seas, of one Francis Muir, an apprentice on board the said vessel. A second count in the indictment charged the prisoners with the manslaughter of the said Francis Muir. Each prisoner in a firm tone, pleaded "Not Guilty"
The following Jury were then sworn, Messrs Henry DORNING (foreman), William FAWCETT, William DUNN, Robert DONALD, Patrick DONELLY, John DUCK, Edward DIXON, Joseph DIXON, Thomas FURMAGER, Joseph DODDS, James DONALD and William DONALD.
The learned Counsel proceed to call the following:
(Third Day, Saturday December 3rd 1859)
ENOCH ODDLING who was duly sworn by Mr King - I am boatswain and second mate on board the 'Snaresbrook'; I shipped in the former capacity, the duties of which I still discharge as also those of second mate, I don't possess a mates certificate I had no conversation last night with any body about giving evidence to day. I never had any conversation on board the 'Snaresbrook' respecting my discharge. I have not stated I had my clothes all ready to leave; I do not remember conversing with Waters about leaving the vessel. I am not aware of any conspiracy on board to get discharged from the vessel; I do not know anything about who leads this prosecution; I have not heard this matter conversed about on board ship ...
NOTE the sentence on Charles Straker after a lengthy court trial was: "That you, Charles Straker, be removed hence to the place from whence you came, and thence to the place of execution, and that there in manner and form by law appointed, you be hanged by the neck until you are dead. And may the Lord God Almighty have mercy on your sinful soul"
There may have been a reprieve but that's another journal ...


1859
Wellington Independent, 30 December 1859
DECLARATION against Enoch Odling
... I, Richard John Duncan, of Wellington, merchant, do hereby solemnly and sincerely declare that on Friday evening, the second December instant, whie I was standing at the door of the Government Buildings, having been detained by the rain, in company with Sergeant Major Styles, of the armed police, Enoch Odling, the Second mate of the barque Snaresbrook, came up and entered into conversation with Sergeant Major Styles, in reference to the trial of Regina v Straker, in which Enoch Odling was one of the witnesses, for the Crown; in the course of that conversation I most distinctly heard the said Enoch Odling avow to Sergeant Major Styles that he knew what he had to say; he should tell the truth, but he was not bound to tell the whole truth. I forthwith urged the most serious expostulation upon Odling, but without the least effect; as he afterwards, twice over, emphatically repeated that he would not tell the whole truth. I immediately took down, in writing, the exact words as above used by Odling, with the intention of informing the Supreme Court of the startling fact that the evidence, of at least the Second mate would certainly not be impartial. I was informed, however, by the prisoner's counsel, towards the close of the trial, that as the Second mate had not been examined on the part of the prosecution, my evidence could not be received


1862
(marriage not found in NZ for Enoch & Susan)
ENOCH & SUSAN/SUSANNAH Odling had the following children in New Zealand:
* 1862 - 1933 Robert Hall Odling
- Robert was born 1 December 1862
- he married Mary Eyre in New Zealand 7 Oct 1886
- they had a daughter, Harriet Mary Odling, 12 July 1887. Mary died 13 days later
- he later moved to Queensland near his siblings & mother (see timeline)
* 1864 - 1864 Harriet Hall Odling
- Harriet died aged 10 weeks
* 1866 - Hilda Hall Odling
- Hilda married Francis Gustavus Butt in Wellington in 1888 & move to Queensland
... Evening Post, 28 May 1888 On 23rd May, at Webb-street Church, by Rev W. S. Potter, Francis G. Butt, of Guernsey, Channel Is., to Hilda Hall Odling, of Wellington. Papers please copy
* 1868 - Harriet Ann Hall Odling
- Harriet married George Alfred Oakenfull in Queensland in 1894
* 1871 - Beatrice Hall Odling
- Beatrice married Albert Clowes, a Dentist, in Warwick, Queensland in 1891
- their first child was Cyril Albert Clowes (1892-1968), army officer
* 1873 - Susie Hall Odling
- Susie married Arthur Herbert Bridge in Queensland in 1899


1863
ENOCH IS IN THE HUTT VALLEY
Wellington Independent, 16 June 1863
MARRIED - BAYLISS-WILLIAMS, June 13, at the residence of Mr Enoch Odling, by the Rev John Crump, Mr James Bayliss, to Mary Ann Williams, both of the Upper Hutt


1864
Wellington Independent, 23 August 1864
HUTT VALLEY RIFLES
... NOTICE - We the undersigned members of the late No 2 Company, Hutt Rifle Volunteers, beg to call a Public Meeting at the Odd Fellows' Hall, on Wednesday Evening next, the 24th inst., at 7 o'clock. for the purpose of taking into consideration the propriety of respectfully addressing his Excellency regarding the rejection of the services offered by the aforesaid Company: Robert Austin, Thomas Bennet, John Clement, R. Donnelly, Edwin Jackson, E. Odling, George White.
- Lower Hutt, August 22 , 1864


1864
Wellington Independent, 27 August 1864
DISBANDING No2 COMPANY HUTT VOLUNTEERS - PUBLIC MEETING
... A meeting was held according to advertisement on Wednesday evening last, at the Odd Fellows' hall, Hutt, for the purpose of taking into consideration the propriety or respectfully addressing his Excellency the Governor, regarding the rejection of the services offered by the No.2 Company of Volunteers
- Mr Odling moved and Mr Sanson seconded 'that we feel great reluctance in being forced back by threats to serve under officers whom we consider unfit to instruct or lead us, and in whom we have no confidence whatever - Carried with much cheering


1864
New Zealand Spectator and Cook's Strait Guardian, 29 October 1864
SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE
... October 27 - s.s. Rangatira, 176 tons, Mundle, from Manukau and Taranaki. Passengers - Mr and Mrs Odling (note the Captain)


1864
Wellington Independent, 22 December 1864,
LOYAL ROSE OF THE VALLEY LODGE, I.O.O.F., M.U., No 4319
... The Fifteenth Anniversary of the above Lodge will be celebrated by a Dinner and Ball on 2nd January 1875 when the officers and brethren of the various lodges are respectfully invited to attend. Ticjets - Dinner 5s; Dinner and Ball 6s; Ball tickets 2s 6d. And may be had from the managing Committee, Mr E. Odling, or the Secretary


1866-1867
NZ ELECTORAL ROLL
Enoch is in Wairarapa West


1866
Wellington Independent, 11 September 1866
THE SAID DEED
... Notice is hereby given that by deed bearing date the twenty-ninth day of August, one thousand eight hundred and sixty six, and made between Enoch Odling, of Carterton, in the Province of Wellington and Colony of New Zealand, Storekeeper, of the first part; Archibald Paisly Stuart, of Wellington aforesaid, merchant, of the second part; and the several persons and firms respectively, creditors of the said Enoch Odling of the third part; the said Enoch Odling did convey, assign and assure all and singular the Estate of him the said Enoch Odling of whatsoever nature or kind soever unto the said Archibald Paisly Stuart, his executors, administrators, and assigns upon trust or sale as therein mentioned, and upon further trust to hold the proceeds of the sale of the said premises as therein mentioned for the benfit of all the creditors of the said Enoch Odling. And that the said deed was duly executed according to law, and signed by more that htree-fourths in value of the creditors of the said Enoch Odling. And notice is hereby further given that the said deed of assignment now lies at the Office of CHARLES BEARD IZARD, Barrister-at-Law, Lambton-quay, Wellington aforesaid, for inspection and execution until the twenty-ninth day of September instant. Dated this 7th day of September, 1866


1866
Wellington Independent, 24 November 1866
ENOCH ODLING'S ESTATE
... All Creditors on the above estate are required to send in their claims to Messrs A. P. Stuart & Co., at once and to sign the Trust Deed, which is lying at the office of Mr Izard, on or before the 24th December next, in order to entitle them to share in the dividend then to be paid.


1867
Wellington Independent, 6 July 1867
TRUST ESTATE of ENOCH ODLING, STOREKEEPER, CARTERTON
... After Thursday, the 4th instant, a First Dividend of Three Shillings in the Pound will be paid at the office of A. P. Stuart & Co, to those creditors who have signed the Deed of Agreement and proved their claims. A.P. STUART, Trustee to the Estate. Wellington, July 3, 1867


1869
Wellington Independent, 28 August 1869
ENOCH ODLING'S ESTATE - NOTICE TO CREDITORS
... A second and Final Dividend will be paid at the offices of A. P. Stuart & Co. on and after the eight day of September next.


1870
Evening Post, 24 November 1870
WELLINGTON RESIDENT MAGISTRATE'S COURT
... A charge of assault, brought by Robert Austin against Enoch Odling, was withdrawn by consent of his Worship


1873
Wellington Independent, 19 February 1873
IN THE SUPREME COURT OF WELLINGTON
... Notice is hereby given that Enoch Odling, of Wellington, in the Province of Wellington, Hawker, did, on the 18th day of February, 1873, file in the Supreme Court of New Zealand, at Wellington, a declaration that he is unable to meet his engagement with his creditors. Robert S. Cheeseman, Solicitor for Insolvent


1873
Wellington Independent, 6 May 1873
WELLINGTON ELECTORAL ROLL
... Enoch Odling formerly of Abel Smith street had moved from that residence and therefore taken from the Electoral Roll of that District


1874
Evening Post, 18 March 1874
WELLINGTON SUPREME COURT
... In the case of Enoch Odling, Mr Borlase applied for the final discharge of the bankrupt, which was granted, no opposition being offered


1874
Wellington Independent, 6 May 1874
WELLINGTON ELECTORAL ROLL
... Enoch Odling formerly of Willis street had moved from that residence and therefore taken from the Electoral Roll of that District


1875
Wellington Independent, 6 May 1875
WELLINGTON ELECTORAL ROLL
... Enoch Odling formerly of Cuba street had ceased to occupy that residence and therefore taken from the Electoral Roll of that District


1878
ENOCH IS A SHIPS MATE
the following was taken from a diary by Frances Pople Pheney in 1878
ON BOARD THE 'DALLAM TOWER' which left UK Nov 1 1877 bound for Otago, arriving Jan 15 1878, describing life on board during the journey. It shows that Enoch Odling was the third mate on board
The diary starts 1 November 1878 on board ship, the last entry is on 19 January 1879 ashore, after landing at Port Chalmers, Dunedin, and makes a fascinating read whether you are interested in this family or not
... the third mates name (now don't laugh) is "Enoch Odling" - you will no doubt remember that short man we took for the Pilot's assistant - that's the man, he has lived in N.Z, for years and knows Cobbs coaches very well. He has some land at Wellington, and a nice little mare that will carry a lady. Mrs. C and I have many a laugh with him and walk too when the ship does not roll too much.


1884
2 July 1884
ENOCH IN WEST AUSTRALIA (but not researched if it is 'our' Enoch)
Third Class Constable Enoch Odling, to be Acting First Class Constable, at 100 per annum, while employed on duty at Carnarvon and Sharks Bay


1886
ROBERT GETS MARRIED
... Robert Hall Odling married Mary EYRE on 7 Oct 1886 in New Zealand
- Robert was aged 23 & Mary was 19
- Mary was born in New Zealand on 2 February 1867, the first born of 7 children to the Wellington Herbalist, William Henry EYRE (1825-1911) & Margaret GILLIES (1847-1916) (they are buried Terrace End, Palmerston North)


1887
Evening Post, 26 July 1887
BIRTH OF ROBERT'S DAUGHTER
... ODLING - On 12th July, at Courtney Place, the wife of Fred Odling, of a daughter (Harriet Mary Odling). Nelson, Dunedin and Auckland papers please copy


1887
Evening Post, 2 August 1887
DEATH OF ROBERT'S WIFE MARY
... ODLING - On 25th July 1887, (at her parents' residence, Courtney-place) of inflammation of the lungs, Mary, beloved wife of Fred. Odling, and daughter of W. H. and Margaret Eyre, in her 21st year
Evening Post, 26 July 1887 LOYAL PETONE LODGE, I.O.O.F., M. U. Members are invited to attend the Funeral of Bro F. Odling's deceased Wife, which will leave the residence of Mr W. H. Eyre, Herbalist, of Courtney-place, Wellington, at 3 o'clock p.m. on Wednesday, 27th July. Visiting brethren invited.
Evening Post, 26 July 1887
FUNERAL NOTICE
... The friends of Mr ROBERT HALL ODLING are respectfully invited to attend the funeral of his late wife, MARY, which will leave the residence of Mr Eyre, Courtney-place, to-morrow, Wednesday, 27th July 1887, at 3 o'clock
- Mary is buried in Plot 121 K, Section Public at Bolton street cemetery, Wellington
... see photo below

1889
IN PETONE, WELLINGTON
Evening Post, 7 December 1889
CREDITORS
... George Carter, builder, of Petone, a bankrupt, in a statement submitted to the Official Assignee, sets down his liabilities as being 578 10s 2d ($106,130 in 2013), and assets at 450 9s 8d, leaving a deficiency of 128 0s 6d.
The unsecured creditors are:
Ballinger Bros., 99 1s
J. J. Fleet, Petone 41 2s 7d
Udy & Gallon, Matarawa 98 10s 2d
Stewart & Co., 48 2s 9d
Thomas Ballinger, 35 3s 5d
A. J. Bennett 33 4s 9d
Thomas Price, Petone 38 6s
Lovegrove 7 Co., Petone 27 1s 5d
Green & Sinclair, Petone 9 10s 2d
Waddell & Co., 19 19s 6d
J. Udy, Greytown 11 9s 5d
Kirk & Atkinson 27 6s 10d
F. Odling 10 ($1800 in 2013)
Petone Borough Council 4 3s 2d
Thomas Sweatman, Petone 75


1894
ROBERT CLAIMS INJURIES
The Queenslander Saturday 20 January 1894
Divisional Board Meetings TARINGA, Queensland
... Included in the correspondence were the following communications:
... and from R. H. Odling, claiming for injury said to have been caused by negligence in leaving a tree Stump on the footpath; in both cases it was decided to reply that the board did not consider themselves liable there for


1894
ROBERT REMARRIES IN QUEENSLAND
Robert Hall ODLING married Sarah Maria TUCKER in Queensland in 1894
- they had a daughter:
1894 - 1894 Gladys Odling
- Gladys is buried with her parents in Toowong cemetery


1895
ELECTORAL ROLL
TOOWONG, Queensland Electoral Roll
... ODLING Robert Hall, Lylian Rd Taringa


1895
IN TARINGA COURT WITH HIS MOTHER
The Brisbane Courier, Wednesday 6 February 1895
DISCTRICT COURT - SUSAN ODLING v THE TARINGA DIVISIONAL BOARD
... The hearing of this claim for 360 damages for injuries received at Taringa was continued. R. H. Odling, son of the plaintiff, recalled, stated in reply to his HONOUR that it was his custom to walk on the footpath when going to and from his home ...


1895
BACK IN NEW ZEALAND
Robert Hall Odling is back in New Zealand with his 2nd wife, Sarah Maria and they have a son, William James Hall Odling on 9 July 1897. William was to marry Hilda Alice Barlow in Queensland in 1923


1895
DEATH OF FRED'S SISTER
The Queenslander, Saturday 27 August 1898
... CLOWES On the 16th of August, at her residence, Warwick, Beatrice Hall, the loved and loving wife of Albert Clowes, and third daughter of Mrs. Odling, of this city. "Thy will be done." . (New Zealand papers please COPY)


1903
BACK IN AUSTRALIA
By 1903 their son, William James Odling is now 5-6 and he was a Queensland school pupil enrolled in Taringa State School (1903-1907)


1903
MEMORIAM OF FRED'S SISTER
The Queenslander, Saturday 22 August 1903
... CLOWES In cherished memory of dear Beatrice, daughter of Mrs. Odling, of Brisbane (late of Wellington, N.Z.), who fell asleep 16th August, 1898


1905-1913
ELECTORAL ROLL
TOOWONG, Queensland Electoral Roll
ODLING Robert Hall, Rockeby Terrace Taringa - Paper hanger
ODLING Sarah (wife) - Home Duties


1908-1911
the QUEENSLAND HISTORICAL RECORDS
* William James Hall Odling (son) Queensland school pupil at Brisbane Grammar


1911-1918
the QUEENSLAND HISTORICAL RECORDS
* Robert Hall Odling Queensland Electoral Rolls in Brisbane
* Sarah Odling (wife) Queensland Electoral Rolls in Brisbane
* Susan Odling (mother) Queensland Electoral Rolls in Oxley, Queensland


1919
ELECTORAL ROLL
TOOWONG, Queensland Electoral Roll
ODLING Robert Hall, "Kinver" George St Eagle Junction - Paper hanger
ODLING Sarah - Home Duties
ODLING William James Hall - Bank Clerk (Fred's son)


1920
the QUEENSLAND HISTORICAL RECORDS
* Robert Hall Odling Queensland Electoral Rolls in Lilley, Queensland
* Sarah Maria Odling Queensland Electoral Rolls in Lilley, Queensland
* William James Hall Odling Queensland Electoral Rolls in Darling Downs


1922
ELECTORAL ROLL
TOOWONG, Queensland Electoral Roll
ODLING Robert Hall, Nelson St, Eagle Junction - Painter
ODLING Sarah - Home Duties


1925
ELECTORAL ROLL
TOOWONG, Queensland Electoral Roll
ODLING Robert Hall, Kineder Nelson St Eagle Junction - Master Painter
ODLING Sarah - Home Duties


1933
DEATH OF ROBERT HALL ODLING
ROBERT HALL 'Fred' ODLING died 1 October 1933 aged 70 years in Teneriffe, Brisbane
- he is buried Portion 18, Section 9, Grave 38 at Toowong Cemetery
- with him is:
* his infant daughter Grace Odling on 11 Dec 1894
* his second wife Sarah Maria 13 January 1949


1933
the QUEENSLAND HISTORICAL RECORDS
(written as recorded. So he was R. H. (Fred) Odling then & earlier in NZ)
* R. H. (Fred) Odling in Queensland burials & memorials
* Sarah Maria Odling Queensland Electoral Rolls in Brisbane
* William James Hall Odling Queensland Electoral Rolls in Kennedy, Queensland


1934
The Courier Mail (Brisbane) 16 April 1934
Name of Deceased Proprietor, Robert Hall Odling, late of Teneriffe, Brisbane
Date of Death - 1st October 1933
Name of Claimant - The Public Curator of Queensland as Administrator
Description and Situation of Land - resubdivisions 9 to 13 of subdivision 2 of portion 80, county of Ward, parish of Tamborine
Estate Claimed to be Transmitted - Fee simple
Particulars of Will or Otherwise - Certificate of Authority
Date within which Caveat may be Lodged - 22nd May 1934


1949
The Courier-Mail, Thursday 13 January 1949
DEATH OF FRED'S WIFE SARAH MARIA
... The Funeral of the late Mrs Sarah Maria Odling of 245 Kelvin Grove Road, Kelvin Grove, will move from Alex. Gow's Funeral Chapel, Petrie Bight, This (Thursday) Morning, at 10 o'clock, for the Toowong cemetery. Service 9.45 a.m.


PHOTO
GRAVE OF MARY ODLING - plot 121K at Bolton street
HEADSTONE READS:

In Loving Memory of Mary
the loved and loving wife of Frederick R H Odling
and eldest daughter of W H Eyre
who died at Wellington NZ on Monday 25 July 1887 aged 20 years
"To live in hearts we leave behind is not to die"

... big thank you to Nick Perrin (Friends of Bolton St Cemetery) for the photo & transcript (17-6-2013). Nick adds:- "the Odling headstone, which is mounted on the original grave, does not have any sort of wall or floor (just bare grass). The stone is white marble, believe it or not. The staining is removable with detergent. The inscription is still well-incised and legible, but all the original lead has fallen off"

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by ngairedith on 2013-06-17 07:01:44

very big thank you to Nick Perrin from the
Friends of BOLTON STREET MEMORIAL PARK who provided the photo of Mary Odling's headstone adding that Fred is obviously not buried with her and he will correct the database !!

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