FAMILY CONNECTIONS ON THE MORNINGTON PENINSULA, VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA.
My apologies that many family connections have not been detailed but thanks to Janilye, I may now have time to finish this work. Some family connections from Moorooduc parish will be included in future journals.
EXTRACT FROM THE UNFINISHED PENINSULA DICTIONARY HISTORY.
The purpose of this entry, as with all of my efforts, is to give family historians some real detail to include in their published works. Here I have listed family connections that have been included in many of our local histories, several of which are not available for borrowing. In some cases, I have included possible links with my former area of research-Tullamarine and miles around.
All map co-ordinates given for properties are from Melway directories.
By strange coincidence, someone had earlier decided on family connections being an interesting topic. Jennifer Nixons book was published in 2003 and is entitled: FAMILY CONNECTIONS, SORRENTO and PORTSEA. As this book is available for loan, I will not give its details. Here are the families and people mentioned (with page numbers as it has no index; but only for first or major mentions).
Skelton (throughout), Redman iii, 37-8, Miss Tayton iii, Miss Gunn (tchr) iv, Clark 8,11 12-25, Newton 8,11, 42-8, 92 Craig 9 11,67 Page 8, White 8, Quinnan 8, Mitchell 8, Hobson 8, Bennett 10,11,26, 71 Watts 11,29-36, 56 Morce 11,37-8, 83,122 Schlipalius 83-5, Heywood 11,49-50 Dark 11, 69-70, 76-9 92 Keating 12, 16-17 Leonard 12, Willis 12, Coulston 12, Clarke 12, Morgan 12,19-23 McIntosh 12 Mackinnon 22, 117 Reeves (policeman) 118 Mr Holman(Tchr) 22, Hughes 25, 109 (Robertson26, Aitken26 Waratah Bay),Wheeler 29, Pike 29,103, Myers 29, Evans 29, Guy 29, Cain 29,56, 71-5 Reardon 29, Dillon 30, Tramar (Tchr)31, 126, teachers in 1890s- Kemp, Sullivan, Daniels, Ford 36 90 Trentwith 37, Johnson 37,40-1, Holyhead 37, Price37, Ford 39,Mahood 41, Eltringham 42, Farnsworth 42,79-80 Knight 42, Watson 42,48 56,90,91-30 Gillett 42, King 42, Kentish 42, Dahl 42, Cottier 49, 75 Coker 49,52-3 Webb 49, Grayland 49, Bawden 49, Taylor 49, Jean Field 50, Boxey Williams 56, Jennings 56,75 Rowley 56, Hill 56, Hutchins 56, Erlandsen 56, Skillen 56, Tom Fox 56, Fritch 56, McKeown 56, Wong market gardens 56, Oscar Worth 56, Sapiano 61, shopkeepers 61-2, Norman Hall 75, Bevin 75, Spunner 75 Cairns 75, Johnston80-1, Lentell 81-2, Stringer 86-9, Sullivan90, Kenyon 90, Cannon 90, Grace 90, Murray 90, McGrath 90 Russell 92 McFarlan 92, Riley 52,Wilson 92-3 Mr Todgate Canterbury Jetty 96 Police fence petitioners of 1859 97-100 George Heaton 104, cab men who met the boats 106, Bensilium 108-9,120 Crawford 109, Yuille (Not the weird variations regarding Canvas Town in LIME LAND LEISURE) 109 Wooster 109-110, Popple 110, Croad 76, Goss 111, Allen 111-2 Williamson 112 Miss Burke (tchr) 111 Reddish 113 operators of the Baths 114 Kerr 115 Darbyshire 121-2, Robiliard 122
First pupils at 1090 Sorrento(in 1871) 124 Josiah Hiskens (tchr) 124, teachers123-9 Kemp 125 Wilson 94-5
SOURCE LIME LAND LEISURE
Robert Henry Adams, son of Captain Henry Everest Adams, married Mary Jane Hopcraft. Marys family was farming at Melway 190 C8 (Wannaeue parish ) and on 178 acres between the start of Tucks Rd and Stony Creek in the parish of Balnarring. In December 1877, Robert applied for a licence for land, which was described as allotment 69 of section A, parish of Balnarring but was actually part A of allotment 69, granted to M.Byrne not too long afterwards. This was between Mornington-Flinders Rd and Tucks Rd and between John Hopcrafts Wannaeue land and William Hopcrafts Balnarring land.
Aha you say, thats how Robert met his future wife. That, however, must remain a mystery because they were married in 1873. What is known is why Robert wanted to move away from Adams Corner. Mary might have been a Methodist; certainly she had a strong dislike of some of Captain Adams seafaring ways, especially his love for the produce of his Vivyan Vineyard and his desire for youngsters to share his enjoyment. The family legend has it that she refused to live in the same house as the Captain.
For more details, see ADAMS CORNER by Ray Gibb at Dromana Museum.
Owen Cains son Tom, of Rosslyn married M.Hughes.
Owen Cains first son, Joseph (who drowned in 1889 at the age of about 47) married Ann Murray. Murray St is on Owen Cains Tyrone Estate. In 1864, Joseph Cain received the grant for allotment 1 of section 14 in the Township of Dromana. This was all the land fronting Pt Nepean Rd between Heales St and Verdon St with the exception of the 7/11 site, which was purchased by Josephs good friend George McLear.
Ann Murray may have been the daughter of Mrs Margaret Murray who was the teacher at Dromana Common School from November 1869 until at least 1873.
I have no evidence that Joseph lived in Dromana except that he was the owner and occupier of town allotments in 1865 and 1879 and was a good friend of George McLear. It is possible that Joseph was a fisherman or working for Peter Pidota with Robert Rowley, who was a resident of Dromana by 1861. John McLear, brother of Josephs mate George was one of Dromanas fishermen and it is possible that Joseph worked with him. Josephs drowning in 1889 was more likely as a result of his occupation than any recreational pursuit.
Joseph Cains daughter, Julia, married James, the son of William Hughes. Hughes was engaged in limeburning. It is obvious that after Josephs death, Ann moved back to Rye to live with his parents near Canterbury Jetty Rd, which is not that far from Hughes Rd on whose west side Johanna T.Hughes had been granted 25 acres between Pt Nepean Rd and Labuan St in 1875.
Ada Cain, daughter of Joseph Cain and Ann (Murray) married Austin Cooper. As Joseph Cain had probably drowned by this time, Ann and her children were probably living in or near Tyrone. No mention of the Coopers appears in the rate records I have transcribed but one of my earliest works, an index for RYE PRIMARY SCHOOL BY Patricia Appleford (available at Rye Museum) reveals that the Cooper family is mentioned on pages 31, 34, 39, 40 and 53. BIRDIES AND BOGIES a history of the Rosebud Country Club reveals that one of the three sites considered for its establishment in about 1960 was a 146 acre farm with a house opposite Glen Lee in Boneo Rd owned by the Coopers.
Another of Joseph and Ann Cains daughters, Margaret, married John Francis Watts, one of whose claims to fame was as an enthusiastic driver of Coppins steam tram, which conveyed tourists from the Sorrento Jetty to the Ocean Amphitheatre.
Owen Cains most prominent son, John, was a successful businessman and involved in civic affairs as the correspondent to the Board of Advice (responsible for provision of education between Dromana and the Heads) and as a councillor. John married Julia Ford, daughter of James Ford, a pioneer near Portsea. John must have spent a lot of time on the road travelling between his hotel at Portsea and his land at Rye and along Boneo Rd as well as the 130 acre allotment 21A of Wannaeue on the east side of Main Ridge Rd.
Michael Cain was a son of Joseph and Ann Cain. His son, Jack, married a Jennings girl.
Owen Bigelow Cain, son of Michael Cain and Mary (Neville), married Ethel Hill. The Hill family is mentioned on pages 7,26-7,33-4,39,40,42,44,48,51,71,119,120,122, 144-151 and 157-8 of Patricia Applefords RYE PRIMARY SCHOOL.
THE BONEO CONNECTION-CASES ONE TO THREE!
Mary Agnes Cain, daughter of Michael and Mary (Neville), who was born during her parents brief residency in Adelaide, married Henry (Hill Harry) Cairns, son of the original Boneo pioneer, Robert. It is possible that Michael lived for a time at John Cains Boneo Rd property before moving to Nepean Parish and Harry and Mary Agnes were schoolmates at the Boneo School.
Allice Cain, daughter of Owen Bigelow Cain and Ethel (Hill), married J.Williams. It is possible that Owen was managing allotment 4 Wannaeue for John Cain, living in the old house, which still stands just south of Bunnings. As in the case of the previous entry, it is possible that Allice and the mysterious J.Williams attended the Boneo school together. It is probable that J.Williams was a descendant of Edward Williams who received grants on both sides of Browns Rd just east of Truemans Rd. Williams earned renown as an almost superhuman harvester while earning the money to buy his land and carted the old Dromana (McCrae) lighthouse to the summit of Arthurs Seat. Later, Edward leased and bought the better part of S.S.Crispos grants in Rosebud West and built Eastbourne, which still stands at 17 William Crescent.
Edward Williams had arrived in 1855 aboard a ship that was to conduct a survey of Port Phillip Bay. The ships company was invited to enjoy the hospitality of the Burrells at the Arthurs Seat homestead and Edward met Mary Campbell, who had come to Australia with Robert Cairns and his family and found employment with the Burrells. Much has been said in THE CAIRNS FAMILY OF BONEO and other histories of Jimmy the Squid Williams and Ned Williams (actually known as Ted according to Ray Cairns) who were both batchelors and dying a day apart (unmarried) were buried on the same day. Could it be that James Campbell Williams was not a bachelor or had a brother called John or James. Perhaps the brother had moved away from the area and thus missed out on becoming an identity.
Nora Cain, daughter of Owen Bigelow and Ethel (Hill) married Phil Edmonds. The Edmonds family farmed Edward Williams land near Truemans Rd and later took over Alex Cairns grant between John Cains allotment 4 and Boneo Rd.
Annie, daughter of Owen Bigelow and Ethel, married Robert Rowley. The information supplied by a Rowley informant differs in detail. Robert Rowley was born in 1876 and married Amie Margaret Cain.
Ellen, daughter of Owen Bigelow and Ethel, married George Hill, who managed John Cains limekilns when John took over the Nepean Hotel (over the road from the Portsea hotel.)
SOURCE-THE CAIRNS FAMILY OF BONEO
This entry concerns not two Peninsula families but pioneers on either side of the bay. Robert Cairns had married Mary Drysdale in Scotland and they traveled with Marys parents to Australia. Arriving in 1852, Robert and Mary settled at Boneo soon after, while Marys parents made their home on the western coast near the present town of Drysdale. Robert had intended to farm but found limeburning more lucrative. He had no trouble persuading his brothers, David and Alexander to join him a couple of years later.
John, the son of Robert and Mary, married Mary Russell. There were two men by the name of Russell involved in early peninsula history. Andrew Russell was a land speculator from the Essendon area who received a grant of land on the eastern side of Collins Rd in Dromana. Edward Russell had a lime station in Nepean parish in 1865. A map in LIME LAND LEISURE shows that this was on the western side of Dundas St just south of Owarra St. By 1879, Edward Russell was leasing 100 acres from the Crown in the parish of Wannaeue and he received the grant to this 103 acre property on the western side of the Truemans Rd tip site on 3-11-1880.
Edward was an old shipmate of John Watts but was not part of Johns desertion near Dromana. He probably wished he had been as he walked for two days to the Tootgarook Run to work for James Purves. He then worked as a limeburner for the Sullivans and drove cattle to the goldfields for the Skeltons. Edward Russell built his lime kiln in 1854 and probably operated it until Blair was granted the 163 acre allotment 19 of Nepean Parish on 19-6-1867.Hollinshed says that he then purchased 104 acres nearby, but we can assume that he started leasing it from the Crown at about that time.
We can assume that Mary Russell was the daughter of Edward Russell and his wife Mary (Stuart). Edward had met his future wife when he sought medical attention at the Quarantine Station where she was a nurse.
As you will see, this was not the only connection between the Cairns and Russell families. They were not exactly neighbours but the eastern boundary of Edwards land was only a mile and a half from the western boundary of Alexander Cairns grant. Perhaps the Russell children went to the Boneo school.
Mary, the daughter of Robert and Mary, married William Patterson, the son of James Patterson. Robert had moved in the 1870s to a new farm near Pattersons Rd in Fingal, which was surrounded by land granted to members of the Patterson family. William had married Christina, daughter of David Cairns but she died in 1877,five weeks after their third child was born. William later married Mary in 1880. The only child from Williams second marriage, William, married Ruby, the daughter of Rosebud Ted Cairns and Elizabeth (Bucher).
Janet, the daughter of Robert and Mary, married Robert Wilson. It is presumed that Robert was a grandson of Henry William Wilson and son of Henry John Wilson. Under Godfrey Wilsons expansion of the family butchering business, land was bought at Boneo. Robert might also have been related to a George Wilson near Flinders.
David Cairns, brother of Robert, was married in Scotland to Janet Thompson. It is possible that relatives of Janet settled near Boneo. John and Percy Thompson had Wannaeue land in 1900, possibly near the Truemans and Browns Rd intersection. However John Thompson might have been the son of Widow Kettle (etc) near The Heads.
James, son of David and Janet, married Johanna (Hannah) Russell. (Russell details above.)
James Thompson Cairns supplemented the income from his farm (known as Alva Hill) by being Rabbit Inspector for the whole of the peninsula.
David, son of David and Janet, married Elizabeth Russell. (Russell details above.) David was known as Blacks Camp Davey. He purchased 52 acres near the Cape Schanck turn off in 1888 and according to place name records Cairns Bay was named after him; his nephew, Ray gives interesting insight into the naming of this bay (Melway 260 G12) in TALKING HISTORY WITH RAY CAIRNS by Ray Gibb. David broke his neck and was paralysed when he fell from a cart in 1897. He and Elizabeth ran a guest house at Flinders.
Christopher, son of David and Janet, married Margaret Russell. (Russell details above.)
In 1900, Chris was assessed on 140 acres, 32 d (and another illegible letter which I decided after five minutes of squinting might be r) and 9. Allotment 9 makes no sense whatever as Edward Connop seemed to have been farming that whole allotment as well as most of Edward Williams land near the Browns/Truemans Rd intersection.
It appears that Chris was farming allotments 32d and 32 f , west of the north south section of the Government Road, parts of which are now known as Eastbourne Rd, Hove Rd and Seamists Dr. He must have been leasing it from the Crown because it was granted to J.A.Bayford on 16-2-1905. This land, between the Rosebud Public Park and Recreation Reserve and Seamists Dr, consists of 140.002 acres and is indicated by Melway 171 A-C3.
Chris was not assessed on Wannaeue land in 1900 or 1920. He and Margaret might have had to move away from the area to make a living but it is possible that he was in partnership with Edward Russell on farms in the parishes of Nepean or Fingal whose rate records I have not transcribed. Edward Russell had been granted allotment 4 of section C Fingal, (on the eastern side of Rogers Rd), consisting of 80 acres and indicated by Melway 253 J-K 6. This land was only 400 metres north of land bought by John and Robert Cairns on the other side of Rogers Rd. Most of the children of David and Janet Cairns were buried at Dromana but Chris and James Thompson, both married to Russell girls, were buried at Rye.
Speculation is fine if there is no way of confirming it but I knew that confirmation could be obtained by consulting the microfiche of rate records at Rosebud Library. The first thing confirmed was my opinion of the illegibility and inaccuracy of many entries. I do have sympathy for the rate collectors however. At the turn of the century, many landholders had abandoned their properties due to the depression of the 1890s and subdivisions in Flinders and Nepean shires had led to an explosion in the number of properties assessed.
At the start of this entry, I mentioned the vague description of the 140 acres that Chris was farming in 1900. By 1909, John Airey Bayford, a teacher of Balnarring, had occupied his grant, which was described as 140 acres 32a 9Wa exactly the same wrong description as used for Christopher Cairns land. Incidentally, I believe Bayford was a descendant of Captain Airey, a pioneer in the Bulla area (177 C2) or George Airey, a pioneer near Aireys Inlet (511 D10).
Chris was assessed on this 140 acres (and 15 acres on allotment 2, the original grant to Robert, David and Alex Cairns) and had the former until at least 1903-4. By 1909, he was farming lot 3 of Barkers and was still farming there in 1912. The rate collector failed to mention whether it was in Wannaeue or Fingal. The map on page 62 of LIME LAND LEISURE shows that J.Barker sold Fingal land to James and R. Cairns, so I presume that block 3 was in Wannaeue on the pre-emptive right bounded by Browns, Grasslands, Limestone and Boneo Rds.
So it seems that Chris was not helping Edward Russell on the 80 acres that he owned near Rogers Rd. Edward did not have a farm in Nepean parish, but he did own one lot and a building at Sorrento.
He also owned lots 4 and 5 of section 12 at Dromana. These lots had been granted to R.D.Quinan on 30-3-1864 and each had a 20 metre frontage to Codrington and Verdon Streets, starting 40 metres from Hodgkinson St. In the 1909-10 assessments, Edward Russells name has been crossed out and replaced with that of Mrs C Cairns. The following yearss records show that Mrs C.Cairns was assessed on lots 4 and 5 of 12 Dromana, apparently now the owner. Forgetting to follow up the 88 acres on Barkers, I thought that since Edward Russell might have died, his daughter Margaret could have inherited the 80 acres on Rogers Rd as well.
In 1909-10 Edward Russell had been assessed on the 80 acres, 4c Fingal but in the next assessment this land had disappeared from the face of the earth; perhaps Edward had died and the rate collector did not know whom to assess.
It appears that Chris and Margaret became Dromana residents. Their children are listed in THE CAIRNS FAMILY OF BONEO but I did not record them. However, I think that Doug was their son and he married a descendant of the pioneering Griffith family of Dromana. (See Griffith- Cairns entry.)
Robert Cairns, son of David and Janet, married Annie Symonds. The Symonds family seems to have been based at Flinders; Isabella, James and John Symonds were assessed on property there in 1895. S.P.Symonds was leasing a block from Allison in Dromana in 1897. Robert became known as Back Road Bob because he lived on that part of Cape Schanck Rd that was renamed Bayview Rd. Bob owned one of the drags that met the bay steamers at Dromana Pier. His sons, Davey and George drove passengers to Rosebud and picnic parties to the Cape Schanck lighthouse.
Christina, daughter of David and Janet, married William Patterson. They had four children: James (B.1871), Janet (Mrs Warren, whose artistic husband Fred died young so she relied on her Dromana shop for a livelihood for decades), Sarah (Mrs Bucher: Arthur Ernest and D.R. Bucher were both farmers near Boneo in 1910), and Win (Mrs Haddow: the Haddows lived at the north corner of Pattersons Rd) (253 D8-9). In 1877, five weeks after Win (actually Christina) was born, her mother died. William married Christinas cousin (Mary, daughter of Robert Cairns and Mary (Drysdale) in 1880. Just to cement the Patterson-Cairns connection, William the only child from the second marriage married Ruby, daughter of Rosebud Ted Cairns.
(See The Cairns Family of Boneo.)
Janet, daughter of David and Janet, married John McLear a professional fisherman of Dromana. They lived in a house that was demolished for the building of the drive-through bottle shop at the Dromana Hotel. As they were hardly neighbours, I would presume that they met at a dance or through a mutual friend, perhaps one of the Rudduck boys who farmed at Boneo.
Henry, son of David and Janet, married Margaret Haddow. Henry was known as Rabbity or Carrier Harry because he conducted a daily service conveying passengers, fish and rabbits from Cape Schanck to the Mornington railhead. (Roberts son, Henry, was known as Hill Harry.) On what looks like 5-7-1863, A.Haddow had received the grant of allotment 9 in the parish of Fingal. This 141 acre block was bounded by Cape Schanck Rd, Patterson Rd and Grasslands Rd (Melway 253 D8-9). Carrier Harrier probably inherited this block On page 33 of MEMOIRS OF A LARRIKIN, Hector Hanson mentions that he worked for Bill Haddow down Flinders way digging spuds and milking cows. Taking a short cut through the bull paddock he was forced to take refuge in a tree with the mean jersey bull pawing the ground at its base. Hecs frantic whistles alerted George Haddow who came on a horse to rescue him.
Edward, son of David and Janet, married Elizabeth Bucher. By 1910, Arthur Ernest Bucher and D.R.Bucher were farming Wannaeue land near and at Boneo.
The former had 30b of 50 acres, which by coincidence is adjacent to 50 acres granted to E.Cairns on 13-2-1923. Mt Arthur Ave. separated the two properties, which fronted the south side of Waterfall Gully Rd and extended from (almost) Bayview Ave. to Goolgowie St (Melway 170 H7.)
D.R.Bucher had Tweeddales grant of 187 acres bounded by Old Cape Schanck Rd, Grasslands Rd and Browns Rd. (170 E10) To the west of this triangular allotment, at the corner of Browns and Boneo Rd was allotment 2 granted to Robert, David and Alexander Cairns. (170 B11)
It is possible that the Buchers had been in the Boneo area earlier; I did not record assessments in the parish of Fingal. Edward was known as Rosebud Ted . His land on Waterfall Gully Rd might have earned him this title but I suspect that it was more likely because of his residence near the beach and his ownership of eight blocks on crown allotment 17 between Jetty Rd and the line of Norm Clarke Walk. His land was probably near McDowell St. In 1910, Edward and Elizabeth were both listed as contractors and Edward was also assessed on the 50 acres for which he received the grant and another 60 acres. As Mrs Cairns was assessed on 2 acres and building, Rosebud, Edward and Elizabeth were on the foreshore area known as the village of Rosebud; land on the south of Pt Nepean Rd was designated Wannaeue.
John, son of Alexander Cairns and Janet (Dalgleish), married Emme Baldry. The Baldry family had settled in the Main Ridge area by 1900 and luckily I recorded that Albert Baldry was assessed in that year on 450 acres in Fingal. John Baldry had 161 acres in Wannaeue (Melway 254 E5.) Albert Baldrys land was probably near the south end of Greens Rd.
John Dalgleish Cairns was not assessed in the 1900 rates, at that stage being about 48 years old, having been born in 1852. This leads me to believe that he might have been traveling far and wide to seek work during the depression or was working on the Baldry farm or perhaps with his cousin James Thompson Cairns (the Shires rabbit inspector who happened to have the 80 acre triangle bounded by Greens, Baldrys and Limestone Roads.)
Ten years later, John Dalgleish Cairns was assessed on 163 acres (3 of 29a) and 150 acres (15ab). Mrs J.D.Cairns was assessed on 161 acres in Wannaeue. Approximations for the first two parcels of land are: Melway 190 C3 and 171 B-C11. I believe that the third was a total of 159 acres 6 roods and 47 perches (160.3.7) granted to the aforementioned rabbit inspector (254 E2, and the part of Greens Bush north of Limestone Rd.) J.D.Cairns received the grant for allotment 17 Wannaeue of 175 acres on 30-6-1916. (170 G10.) This land had frontages to Jetty, Grasslands and Browns Rds.
CHAPMAN-SHEEHAN. (page 77, Dreamtime of Dromana.)
George Chapman married Elisabeth Bain in 1865. I have a theory that Elisabeth was the daughter of the chap that built a flour mill on Lochton (177 A-E 4) in 1856 and that George had gone there when he arrived in 1857. Cay, (Fred) Chapman and Kaye had sold their grants (3 G-H 1-6) in about 1853 and it is likely that Fred was leasing Lockton when his haystack was destroyed by fire in 1856.
George came to Dromana in 1862 and after working as a bullocky (until his team was killed by a disease) and a carrier, he bought Sea Winds on Arthurs Seat in 1876.
Georges first son, John, married Edith Sheehan from Red Hill. John, born in 1866, took Edith to Western Australia in the gold rush of the 1890s. John and his brother set up a successful water condensing business in Kalgoorlie. Thomas returned to Red Hill after a few years to become an orchardist but John stayed and died in Bunbury during a typhoid epidemic in 1901. Edith returned to the Sheehan home in Red Hill with her little daughter.
SOURCE: LIME LAND LEISURE
CLARK-SKELTON See Family, Connections, Sorrento and Portsea by Jennifer Nixon.
* MEANS REFER TO Family, Connections, Sorrento and Portsea.
William, son of John Boswell Clark and Mary Ann, married Maggie Clark. Was Maggie one of John Sullivans children? Those Courageous Hardy Women probably answers this question.
Annie, daughter of John Boswell Clark and Mary Ann, married William Keating.
William, son of (James?) married Lillian Dark. William Cottier (senior) rented land in the Safety Beach area and started the Rye Hotel on the Dromana hospital site, between Spencer Ave and the highway bend (Melway 159 K 5) in 1859. Later he obtained grants for land between Collins Rd and just west of Lombardy St but soon sold to Walter Gibson and moved to Rye, and with John Campbell started the Rye Hotel east of Napier St. William Snr might well have had a brother named James (who was the father of a William) James name has not been seen on a Kangerong parish map or in Kangerong rate assessments. If James had a son named William, so did William Snr, because the grantee of crown allotment 1 of section 6 in Rye Township was named as W.Collier Jr.
This allotment had a frontage of 100 metres to Collingwood St and 80 metres to Napier St. The rest of section 6 was occupied by the cemetery and State School, the latter having expanded into William Jnrs grant. A map on page 60 of LIME LAND LEISURE shows that William Jnrs grant was later occupied by Sullivan, Mrs Myers and facing the cemetery, Maxwells wine saloon. Interestingly, Tom Bennett and Edward Russell are shown as occupying the western end of the cemetery site; perhaps they had a lime kiln there when the township was surveyed.
The William who married Lillian was supposed to have been the son of James and born at Dromana in 1864. Hollinshed gives details of Cottier farms near Rye.
Jock, son of James, married Madge OBrien.
James, son of Jock, married Emily Dellar.
Hughie married a Shand girl and their daughter, Catherine, was killed in a carriage accident. Was this the Catherine Crichton of Glen Lee whose grave is prominent at the Dromana cemetery?
The main Crichton property was Glenlee fronting the west side of Boneo Rd from Browns Rd to Limestone Rd. In 1900, John Crichton was assessed on this land. Alexander Crichton was assessed on 678 acres that had been granted to J.Lovie and included most of the land bounded by Hiscock Rd, Truemans Rd, Browns Rd and an eastern boundary indicated by the end of Henry Wilson Dr. This land was not very close to Shands Rd at Main Ridge but a third parcel was. Catherine Crichton was assessed on 344 acres described as being 8a, 9ab Wannaeue. The rate collector was almost right; the land actually consisted of 10b, 9b and 8a (344 acres 0 roods and 37 perches.) This property is almost bisected today by Valleyview Lane (254 H 1-4), and was only 520 metres from the south west boundary of Alexander Shands 105 acres (which was adjacent to 352 acres owned by the Shands across Shands Rd.) This was another example of romance between neighbours before Reg Grundy thought of his series!
William Joseph Spunner married Adelaide Maud, daughter of John Spunner. Under the Spunner entry in LIME LAND LEISURE, the Spunner girls name was given as Madeline Maud.
Edwin Dark married Ann Rogers, possibly before moving to the peninsula. There are many references to the family in Patricia Applefords Rye Primary School; the Rye Historical Society has an index for the book that I produced, which will give you the relevant pages. Edwin farmed Hughes land. This could have been Johanna T.Hughes grants of 25 acres fronting the western side of St Johns Wood Rd from the beach road to Whitehead St or land on Hughes Rd bought from somebody like Red Hills McRavey.
All Darks following are Ann and Edwards children.
Nellie Dark married George White. George and other people who contributed to the community*, such as the Sullivans, Cains, Stennikens, Bakers and McDonalds managed to buy a bit of Rye Township thankfully. Most of the land was gobbled up by Blair and Monahan. The McDonalds later bought some of Blairs land south of the cemetery and built a private golf course (discussed in RAY CAIRNS TALKS HISTORY), which is recalled by Golf Pde and Golf Lane. (* I am unsure whether Peter S.Sinclair should be classified as a pioneer or a speculator. See Sinclair under Historic Street Name Origins.)
George bought allotments 7 and 8, now that highway frontage between the 1927 portion of the Rye hotel and Dundas St, extending halfway to Nelson St. on 10-6-1865 (if my reading of microscopic printing is correct.) It was probably from here that he carried on his business as a carrier.
In 1879, George was leasing 103 acres from the Crown. This had to be 38A of the parish of Wannaeue (Melway 169 B9-11) west of the Truemans Rd tip. George was dispossessed when this was granted to Edward Russell on 3-11-1880.Edward was an early limeburner who earned himself a long walk from Melbourne because he did not desert his ship when several of his fellow crew members (John Watts, Tom Bennett, John Dillon) rowed ashore, supposedly in a bath tub, near Dromana.
George responded by obtaining the grant for 34B on 2-7-1884. Consisting of 105.65 acres it fronted the present Spring Lane and is indicated by Melway 168 K12. By 1900, W.White had a 36 acre portion and another, un-named White was also assessed on 36 acres. The remaining 33 acres may have been forfeited because of the 1890s depression. George had probably bought The Williams butcher shop at the corner of George St and Hotham Rd by this stage and converted it into a residence. In 1910 an un-named White was still occupying 36 acres but had just sold it to somebody from Elsrernwick. James Patrick Sullivan had 30 acres and the remainder (39 acres) might have been owned by Capt. David Jones, who would have kept the title deeds in his locker!
George does not seem to have been related to two other White families living in the area. Robert White rented a hut from the Cairns brothers near 170 C11 in 1864 and his family established itself at 171G4. E.W.White had land in the Woyna Estate (See Woyna Ave) by 1920 and was running the Mayville Guest House in 1950.
George Whites occupation as a carrier would have led to his acquaintance with families over a wide area, so whether Edwin Dark was farming at St Johns Wood Rd or Hughes Rd, that is possibly how he met Nellie. A map on page 56 of LIME LAND LEISURE shows that George White had a lime kiln at 157 D12, just west of Hughes Rd so this could have been another reason for their acquaintance.
Ann Dark married James Skelton. See pages 11, 69-70, 76-9 and 92 of Jennifer Nixons FAMILY, CONNECTIONS, SORRENTO AND PORTSEA.
See COTTIER-DARK. See pages 49 and 75 of Jennifer Nixons book re Cottiers. The author of LIME LAND LEISURE seems to have been confused about the Cottier family tree. He constantly refers to James Cottier receiving grants at Dromana; it is William Cottiers name that appears on parish maps and in early rate records.
Edwin Dark married Jessie Brown. Nobody by the name of Brown was assessed in Nepean parish in 1865, the only year for which I transcribed assessments there. However there was a Charles Brown assessed on 20 acres and a hut on 20 acres in Kangerong parish near Dromana in 1865. In 1879, Charles, Henry and Henry A.Brown owned five of the eight allotments in section 3 of Dromana Township, bounded by Codrington, Foote, and McArthur Streets. As Hollinshed does not give dates, Edwin could have married a girl from this family or a daughter of Jim Brown who resuscitated rabbit and ti tree infested land early in the 1900s. I believe this family might have moved west as I have noticed but not recorded the surname, probably in Nepean Parish, which I thought strange because of the later arrival of the Rye areas saviour, who in 1910 had 1459 acres in Wannaeue and Nepean parishes. Strangely he was supposedly known as Jim Brown when his name was recorded in rate records as John H.Little Brown. The third given name indicates that he might have had a connection through marriage to the Purves family of Tootgarook and Green Hills on Purves Rd.
Walter Dark married Rose Watson. Rose was most likely from the family that fished at Weeroona Bay for almost a century from the early 1860s. See extensive detail about the Watsons on page 42 of LIME LAND LEISURE.
Before Coppins town eer saw a funnel
Men fished the Sorrento Channel;
At Portsea, Jack Inglis, before the Watsons, led the way;
When they came, he left for Queennscliff across the bay.
Henry and John came in 60, Alex in 62.
Sons of a Banff fisherman, who left the diggings for a trade they knew
And set up at Pt. Franklin to start their piscatorial labour;
Dennis McGraths cottage housed their only neighbour.
Near The Sisters, Scott, Holley,Watts and Stonner the Dane
Caught boatloads of fish time and time again
With the help of a lookout and signals for detail:
Not getting them to markets fresh the reason theyd fail.
John Watson whod used a lookout in the first place
Moved in 1873 to the groups West Sister base.
Hutchins came in the 80s, Erlandsen at decades end.
For near a century Watsons plied the trade they kenned.
(Verses 1-4 of Early Fishermen by Ray Gibb, August 2010.)
Charles Dark son of Edwin and Ann (Rogers) married Grace Hudson.
Frances, daughter of Edwin and Ann, married Charles Henry Johnston, a builder at Sorrento.
Henry Edward Downward, son of Edward Downward Jnr married Eileen Edwards of a pioneering Red Hill family. Both families lived in the parish of Balnarring, which is east of Bulldog Creek Rd, where the Downwards secured early grants, and east/south of Red Hill-Arthurs Seat Rd to Mornington-Flinders Rd. As I did not record assessments in Balnarring, I cannot give details of their land holdings but the two families probably lived within a mile of eachother. William Edwards entry in Victoria and Its Metropolis (1888) stated that he owned 300 pounds worth of property in the area so he might have been the original member of the family near Dromana.
In August, 1878, William Edwards, a farmer of Dromana, mortgaged allotment 86 of crown allotment 18, Wannaeue, to Henry Everest Adams (whose farm was between The Avenue and Adams Avenue) to secure a loan of 128 pounds and 9 shillings, which was to be repaid with interest on 30-6-1880.(ADAMS CORNER by Ray Gibb.)
Allotment 86 would have consisted of 2 acres and contained FJs site at the corner of Jetty Rd, Rosebud. The nett annual value of the land would have been not much more than two pounds so there must have been a building on it even more grand than Richard Watkins 12 roomed brick Dromana Hotel. Edwards 1888 entry stated that he owned the popular Schnapper Point Hotel on the Dromana Rd. As the rates show only two hotels in Dromana, this hotel (which Edwards probably lost in the depression of the 1890s) might have been the building that Jack Jones used as a store in 1900 but was burnt down before Isobel Moresby could see it. She knew only of a little lolly shop.
I believe that William Edwards father also ran a Schnapper Point Hotel in Mornington (directory); surely if the Dromana residents hotel was in Mornington, he would have so described its location. In 1910 and until Lou Carrigg bought the Dromana Hotel just before WW1, George S.Edwards owned and ran it. Due to the shared occupation of publican, I presume a family link with the Mornington publican and Dromana farmer, William. Richard George Edwards, a grazier of Dromana, was possibly Georges father.
Ken, Norm and Don Edwards played football for Dromana after WW2.Alf Hanson was apparently referring to a member of this Red Hill family when he related an incident that happened outside the Red Hill dance during a break. Jack Wright and Alf were outside with two wrestlers, Billy Misky and Sideboard Edwards.
Erland Erlandsen married Edith Alice Swan. Erland deserted his ship with $1 in his pocket, presumably about 1890 when he started fishing at the Western Sister. He bought Stonners 4.5 acres oposit the Sorrento camping ground in about 1915-6. His son, Tally ran the baths and took out fishing parties. (LLL pages 42 and 118.)
David Swan was a limeburner and manager/agent for Melbourne lime merchant W.A.Blair. On 30-7-1877, David Swan received the Grant for allotment 67, Nepean, of 35 acres, bounded by Mission St and John Bertram Drive.
FARNSWORTH-FORD John Farnsworth married Ann Elizabeth Ford, daughter of James Sandle Ford. John was a builder who first came to the area to build the Sorrento Hotel and later built the Nepean Hotel (across the road from the Portsea Hotel) for James Sandle Ford.
This marriage took place in 1733 but could account for the two families settling fairly close together well over a century later. Their grandsons (Firth) came to Moorooduc in 1857 and Balnarring about 1880. James Firth received a 379(?) acre grant at the nw corner of Myers and Byrnes Rds and T.Harvey received a 19 acre grant in the Red Hill Closer Settlement, just west of Sheehans Corner (Melway 19190 J4.) By 1910 the Harveys had 357 acres near Whites Rd off Purves Rd as well as their land in Balnarring parish. Mary Helen Adams, daughter of Robert Adams of Rosebud, married Ernest Lester Harvey in 1907.
James Firth married Ellen Benton in about 1884.
Both families owned land in the parish of Balnarring, James as specified in the previous entry. J.G.Benton received grants totaling 207 acres on the nw side of Warrawee Rd, Balnarring. The Firths and Bentons would have been neighbours earlier in Moorooduc.
(Probably near 147 J1 and 147 A9.)
FIRTH-GILLIGAN John Firth married Kate Gilligan. I know that this is drawing a long bow, but I believe that the Firths like most immigrants in the 1850s would have tried their luck at the diggings. Many pioneers already on the peninsula did so. I believe that John Sullivan tried his luck in 1854 and John Firth slightly earlier. It was in 1854 that Samuel Brees (after whom Brees Rd in East Keilor is named) built the first decent bridge over the river at Keilor. Before that, those headed to Ballarat used Raleighs Punt at Maribyrnong and diggers en route to Forest Creek or Sandhurst (Castlemaine and Bendigo) traveled through Bulla. Kates family was probably working for Dennis Brannigan on St Johns (384 G4) and may just have been selling vegetables outside Tulip Wrights inn to tourists waiting to cross that former Chief Constables rudimentary bridge. Not having seen any mention of the name Gilligan in the many histories I have read about the peninsula, I feel entitled to hazard a guess about how John and Kate met.
FORD-SULLIVAN James Sandle Ford married Hannah, daughter of Dennis and Honora Sullivan. Dennis was the grower of the huge cucumber that amazed Melbourne in 1843 just before they left for the Heads, so it was probably Hannah who grew the vegetables that Ford sold to ships entering the bay and later, the Quarantine Station.
Adam, son of Walter, married Mary Ann the daughter of Mary Ann McLear, who was a widow, when she arrived in the Dromana area. For full details, see Dreamtime of Dromana by Colin McLear.
Mary Ann settled on Jamiesons Special Survey, the eastern part of which is now Safety Beach, between Dunns and Sheepwash Creek near the present southbound off ramp. She grew crops on her rented property, the Willow, handling her workers firmly to ensure that they performed properly but she never had to worry about Edward Williams when it came to harvesting. She was in partnership with hawker, Charles Graves, and later acquired a farm that he had bought and had the Rhymers fence, where she established Maryfield.
Walter landed his livestock and belongings at Safety Beach (probably at the mouth of Sheepwash Creek where Peter Pidota used to load timber and other cargo on his Little Angelina*) and before long rented a farm just north of Walter St, previously occupied by William Cottier, who opened the Rye Hotel in Dromana in 1859**. Dunns Creek used to flow into Sheepwash Creek but Walter straightened the last mile of it. Sheepwash Creek acquired its name because Walter used it to wash his sheep before shearing. Walters farm was adjacent to The Willow. **LIME LAND LEISURE
Mary Ann purchased Maryfield from Graves on 31-1-1860 and a few years later Walter Gibson bought Cottiers grant 400 metres to the west of Maryfield, on the west side of the present Collins Rd; Cottier moved to White Cliff and with John Campbell established the Rye Hotel on the east side of Napier St, which led to White Cliffs new name of Rye. (The present Rye hotel occupies the site of Patrick Sullivans Gracefield Hotel, demolished and replaced by the Hunts in 1927.) So the two families remained neighbours. Walter continued building a house (a stones throw east of the present Ponderosa Place) that Cottier had started, and named it Glenholme. Walter had also bought Cottiers other grant, west to about Tulip St and added land on the survey in the early 1900s to give him a total of over 1000 acres.
*Rosebud:Flower of the Peninsula by Ray Gibb, a summary of Isobel Moresbys history.
Isabella, daughter of Walter Gibson and Margaret, married Henry George Chapman who owned the land that is now Dromanas footy ground and sold it to council at a very low cost when the former racecourse and footy ground behind Lou Carriggs Dromana Hotel
Became Spencer Jacksons Foreshore Estate in about 1927. Henry George Chapman was the brother of Nelson Rudducks wife and had probably moved to Dromana at about the same time that his sister did. Their parents received land grants at the southern end of Tullamarine Island (Melway 3 G-H 1-6) but moved to Springvale after a fire destroyed their haystack in 1856, probably on Lochton*. Henry George Chapman had his smithy at the corner of Pier and Gibson St and it is likely that Isabella took a short cut through the paddocks of Glenholme when she was sent to do some shopping and so met the blacksmith.
Ann, daughter of Cecil Jennings, married T.Haddow. When I first came to this entry, I thought, Ill be struggling to show how the two families connected! The Haddows were associated with the Westernport side of the Peninsula and the closest the two families came in land ownership were Melway 253 D8 (A.Haddow- crown allotment Fingal) and 168 F-G 10 (Jennings- crown allotments 20 and 21 Nepean, Kariah then Milangil).
However Linda Bernt, a Jennings descendant, wrote an informative article about her family, which appeared on page 20 of the Southern Peninsula News in the 13-7-2010 issue. During the 1890s depression, which resulted in the loss of land near Drysdale, George Jennings and his adult sons (Ern,Cec. and Bernard) moved between Flinders, Cranbourne and Camperdown before settling on Kariah in 1914. The family connection obviously occurred before 1914 at Flinders. Another family connection took place. Cecil met Catherine Tuck and by 1914 they had nine children so the Jennings family must have been at Flinders soon after 1900 if not before. For more details of the Haddow family, see CAIRNS-HADDOW.
JENNINGS-BRIGHT Lesley Jennings married Bright. THIS IS ANOTHER GENEALOGICAL ERROR IN "LIME LAND LEISURE". NOT HAVING TROVE ETC. AT HIS DISPOSAL, CHARLES HOLLINSHED HAD TO RELY ON WHAT HE WAS TOLD BY FAMILY MEMBERS. IT WAS ACTUALLY JENNINGS-BLIGHT. DETAILS ARE SUPPLIED IN COMMENT 1 OF MY JOURNAL " THE JENNINGS OF DRYSDALE, FLINDERS ETC."
MERCER- WIDOW KETTLE/THOMPSON
Please read the complicated details in LIME LAND LEISURE. Kettle was a limeburner and the widow of a relative came to stay with him. She later married twice and some of her descendants married Portugese settlers who had worked at Kettles kiln.
Elizabeth Mercer, the widows daughter married George Hill. One of their sons was presumably the George Hill who married Ellen Cain (see CAIN-HILL).
Jack Thompson (a.k.a. Kettle) married Anne, daughter of Paddy Holley, fisherman.
(See DARK-WATSON entry re Holley.)
Jack, son of the above, married Maggie, daughter of Paddy Holley.
Ezekiel Thompson married Ann, daughter of Tom Bennett, who had deserted from the JamesMcBean near Dromana in 1856 with John Watts and John Dillon. He was an early limeburner, operating in Nepan parish, with his own lime station (kiln) by 1865. Ezekiel Thompson probably followed the same occupation and may have been working for Bennett when he met Ann. The map of the parish of Wannaeue available on the internet shows E. Thompson as the owner of allotment 28B of 55 acres on the north west corner of Truemans Rd and Limestone Rd. This map was drawn in 1887 and N.Graham seems to have been the original grantee.
Richard McGrath married Margaret, daughter of Dennis Sullivan.
(See THOSE COURAGEOUS HARDY WOMEN for much detail.)
John, son of the above, married _. Caldwell. How the two met is hard to imagine. E.Caldwell received the grant for allotment 4 in section 3 Kangerong, south of Boundary Rd (Melway 159, J 9-12) and consisting of almost 297.5 acres. Caldwell Rd, west of the neighbouring Gracefield, is named after him. Robert Caldwell bought 172 acres between Sheehans Rd and the end of Holmes Rd in Red Hill. W.Caldwell also received the grant for 167 acres bisected by Shergolds Lane (160 G 6-9.) Grants were also issued to family members in the parish of Tyabb near Somerville. (See THE WAY WE WERE by Leila Shaw.)
My two guesses about how the families became acquainted are:
1. The Caldwells seem to have been well off to be able to buy multiple grants and could have finished up living at Portsea or Sorrento. The argument against this is that McGrath family descendants could not tell Hollinshed the brides Christian name.
2. Like Robert Rowley, John McGrath might have moved away from home for a seafaring life, perhaps fishing at Hastings. If he did so, he would not have been far from the Caldwell grants in the parish of Tyabb.The argument against this is that the Caldwell grants are marked Colwell on Leila Shaws map (although the name is spelt properly elsewhere in her book.)
James McKeown married Catherine Townsend. The Hillas (Hillis), McKeown and Townsend families came to Dromana from Koroit. Mary the sister of James came with her husband (William Hillis) in 1855 and he acquired grants near Whites Rd off Purves Rd. James came in 1862 and bought 200 acres south of the Red Hill footy ground. He married Catherine Townsend in 1863 and brought her to Red Hill.John Townsend (1840-1918), who was probably Catherines brother, occupied 3 town lots and a hut in Dromana by 1865, and for many years ran a store in George McLears old butchers shop.
James sold his RedHill property to the Sheehans in 1889 and, moving to Dromana, continued the orchard started by William Grace on Gracefield, later building a guest house named Aringa on the corner of Clarendon and Foote Sts.(See Dreamtime of Dromana P. 86-8 for their children.)
Maud, daughter of the above, married Archie Shaw, son of Ben Shaw, former traveling draper, who started a guest house in 1880.
(See Dreamtime of Dromana P.88 about their children and guest house.)
Charles, son of William Moat, married Sarah, daughter of James Trueman. I suspect that the two families became acquainted through Ben Stenniken, Truemans northern neighbour on the west side of Truemans Rd. Stenniken often passed Moats Corner on the way to another property he farmed (151 A 12). Charles was farming at Moats Corner in 1900 but by 1910 was in Rye.
(See DREAMTIME OF DROMANA, and RYE PRIMARY SCHOOL 1667, Pages 27,35,47,52,54,55,61.)
William, son of Charles, who had moved to Rye, married Ada Campbell.
It is likely that Ada was a descendant of John Campbell who built the original Rye Hotel on crown allotments 6 and / or 7 of section 1 in the township of Rye. These allotments lay between points 60 metres east of Napier St and 100 metres west of Lyons St. He was in partnership with William Cottier who contributed the hotel licence and name, transferred from the hotel that he had operated at Dromana in 1859 (LLL). Campbell was also responsible for an early portion of the Rye Pier. Details of this Campbell familys involvement in Rye can be found on pages 20-22, 28, 31-2, 34-5, 40, 51 and 120 of Patricia Applefords Rye Primary School 1667.
Because it involved a family concerned with my previous area of research, Tullamarine and miles around, the following is etched in my mind and I think the reference was in Rosalind Peateys Pine Trees and Box Thorns. Edward Campbell, who served as Lord Mayor of Melbourne, spent many holidays in Rosebud and often went out fishing with Jack Peatey on his huge coutta boat. Edward bought the block on the eastern side of the access road to the Rosebud Jetty, which is to be developed to include apartments and a café. (Plan of Early Rosebud by unknown pioneer included in my Early Rosebud).
When the late Donald Kennedys huge estate north of Broadmeadows Township (Westmeadows) was sold off before 1920, Edward Campbell bought two of the farms, keeping Springbank (6 A-B 4-5). Willowbank, south to Kenny St, now Alanbrae, and including streets that I had named after farms and pioneers (Chandos, Willowbank, Corrigan, Lloyd, Chadwick, Mitchell, Lockhart, Gilmore and Mitchell) became his son, Keiths property. The family was heavily involved in the Oakland Hunt Club.
What makes this second alternative very likely is that Jack Peaty and Charles Moat had grown up as neighbours and worked together at Bernard Eatons gold mine not far east of their properties; these were on Bittern Rd with the Moats on the west corner of Harrisons Rd and the Peateys on the east corner. In 1878, Jacks parents (George and Susan) realized that their battle to farm successfully on their 100 acre property (which was too wet) was futile and with a loan from Nelson Rudduck bought a 2 acre block on the north corner of Jetty Rd and McDowell St, which they occupied in 1888. Jack bought a village (foreshore) block east of Peateys Creek (Murray-Anderson Rd) in 1894.
Dances were an important part of life in any country towns and which ones you attended on the peninsula depended on where you lived. Hec Hanson, who lived at Alpine Chalet on Tucks Rd, attended dances at Red Hill and Main Ridge. Those on the eastern coast would alternate between Rye, Rosebud and Dromana. Both groups would go to dances at Boneo (on the present C.F.A. site.) Jack Peatey played the concertina at the Rosebud Dance and after a day of fishing with him, it is not too hard to picture Edward Campbell taking Keith and his other children to the dance; nor, if Ada was his daughter, to imagine Jack introducing Ada to his former neighbour, Charlie Moat and his son William.
N.B. Neil Campbell (after whom Campbellfield was named) and Edward might have been related. Campbell St in Westmeadows would have been named after one of them.
Ralph, son of the original James Patterson, married Rachel Stenniken.The Stennikens had land in Truemans Rd and further west in the parish of Nepean as well as renting near the western end of Jamiesonss Special Survey. The Pattersons could have been on the survey in 1865 when James Patterson was assessed on a two-roomed house in Kangerong.
By the 1870s the Pattersons had moved to Fingal and selected land for which they received grants in the next decade. Ralph Pattersons grant, consisting of nearly 245 acres, was at the south west corner of Pattersons Rd and Grasslands Rd. 260 metres south of Pattersons Rd and across Grasslands Rd was the 142 acre grant of Mary Jane Stenniken, granted in 1904, but probably selected much earlier; she was probably a widow and women would not have had the opportunity to make money as fencers, sawyers etc that the men did.
The proximity of the farms would seem to explain the family connection but an earlier meeting probably took place when the Patterson lads, all good horsemen, worked for horse breeders, the Purves, at Tootgarook, often driving horses to Melbourne to be sold at Kirks Bazaar. The Stenniken grant (169 C4) was between Truemans Rd and the Tootgarook square mile pre-emptive right.
(See STENNIKEN-CLEMENGER entry re Dromana and Safety Beach.)
PATTERSON-ELLIS (Patterson-Lucas, Patterson-Cairns).
James, son of William and Christina (Cairns) and grandson of the original James Patterson of Fingal, married Mary Ellis. Two of their sons, Alex and Ross, established Patterson motors on the Safeway site near Rosebud Primary School. The business later moved to the corner of Adams Ave and is now Wignall Ford. Alex married May Lucas and Ross married Ivy Cairns, daughter of Rosebud Ted Cairns.James later ran a guest house called Antrim in Main St, Sorrento.(THE CAIRNS FAMILY OF BONEO Peter Wilson.)
I am aware of three possible locations where Mary Ellis could have been living when she met James Patterson. In MEMOIRS OF A LARRIKIN Hec Hanson mentions Smith Elliss property on the Flinders Road, just below Barkers Rd in about 1920. A ride through Greens Bush would make William Patterson farm about 3.5 miles from that of Smith Ellis.
The other two properties were in Rosebud, also in 1920. Henry Ellis owned land and buildings, Rosebud and H. B. Ellis lot 25a C/A 19, Wannaeue. Due to two of James sons being involved in Rosebud, Mary Ellis probably grew up at one of these properties so I will detail their locations. Rosebud meant only Rosebud Village on the foreshore. No crown allotment was given so it is fortunate that an unknown pioneer drew a plan of early Rosebud, which is in my book of that name, and shows the land owned by Harry Ellis.
This is how to find the block. Find Parkmore, built in 1896, on the western corner of Parkmore Rd. Cross Pt Nepean Rd and take the nearest access track to the beach. Walk towards the jetty until you come to a drain. Harry Ellis would have called this Eeling Creek, and it was the eastern boundary of his block, which extended west for 20 metres.
H.B.Ellis may have been Harry or a relative. The subdivision plan that helps me to describe the location of this land is in my Adams Corner. The blocks were about 20 metres by 100 metres with section A fronting Pt Nepean Rd and section B fronting Rosemore Rd. Lot 25 in section A, labeled H.E. Ellis, had a frontage between points 80 and 100 metres east from Adams Avenue and extended south halfway to Rosemore Rd.
How did James Patterson meet Mary Ellis? Was he on his way to visit his brother Ralph in McCulloch St, Dromana when he saw Mary on his left just before the white bridge (Eeling Creek)? Or did he ride to Rosebud with his relative Jack Stenniken to meet Jacks girl, Ivy Clemenger of Parkmore, who introduced James to her friend and neighbour, Mary Ellis.
William Patterson, son of the original James Patterson, married Christina, daughter of the original David Cairns, who bore four children and died in 1877 soon after the last was born. He then married Margaret, daughter of the original Robert Cairns. See the two CAIRNS-PATTERSON entries near the start.
William, son of William Patterson and Margaret (Cairns) married Ruby, daughter of Rosebud Ted Cairns and Elizabeth (Bucher).
Rosebud Ted (1865-1943), the last child of the original David Cairns, did not need a nickname because Robert and Alex did not name any of their boys Edward. He probably acquired his nickname between 1900 when he had 20 acres on Little Scotland (Melway 170 B10) and 1910 when he was working as a contractor in Rosebud and owned two village (foreshore) blocks, six lots on Woolcotts subdivision between Jetty Rd and the line of Norm Clarke Walk. He was also assessed on 60 acres and 50 acres in the parish of Wannaeue. The Buchers were early residents of Rosebud Village, explaining the meeting of Ted and Elizabeth. In 1910, the only Patterson assessed outside Fingal was Ralph, in Dromana.
William and Ruby could have met at a dance but I believe that their acquaintance developed near Boneo. In 1910 D.R.Bucher had 187 acres south of the curve in Browns Rd just west of where it meets Jetty Rd. Rosebud Ted received the grant for 57 acres in 1911; this triangular allotment was bounded by: Eastbourne Rd, Bayview-Old Cape Schanck Rd and Jetty Rd. In 1923, Ted received the grant for almost 50 acres between Waterfall Gully Rd and Greenhill Rd. Rosebud Ted might have had land at Fingal too, which supposedly led to the naming of Cairns Bay after his father. (See the true story in my TALKING HISTORY WITH RAY CAIRNS!)
The Patterson and Cairns families had been friends, neighbours and relatives for decades so the later movement of Rosebud Ted south towards Fingal might have only been incidental to the meeting of William and Ruby.
Ross, son of James married Ivy Patterson. Unless my notes from Lime Land Leisure are wrong, MrHollinsheds informant made a mistake. Ross married Ivy Cairns, daughter of Rosebud Ted. (THE CAIRNS FAMILY OF BONEO Peter Wilson.)
Robert Rowley (38) married Christina Edwards (22) in 1859. The reason that I had not been able to demonstrate a connection between the two families on the Peninsula is that Christina did not live there until they were married.
Robert did not come to the peninsula with his mother and his stepfather, Richard Kenyon. He visited them in 1839 when he was 17 but there is no indication that he stayed. He was obviously staying and perhaps working with friends in Tasmania.
The first record I have of Roberts involvement on the peninsula concerns a lime burning venture with Henry Cadby Wells for the first half of the 1840s which obviously fizzled out because the demand for lime in Melbourne slackened for a while because of the bust of 1843. In 1846, the Frankston pioneer returned to his trade as a bootmaker in Richmond.
In 1849, Robert and Henry started crayfishing in a boat that the latter had bought. The venture was a huge success but lasted just long enough for Wells to build the first limestone house in Sorrento; it became known as Clarks Cottage. Desiring to return home for a while they anchored the boat in Westernport Bay. Sadly the huge tidal variation caused irreparable damage to the boat when it was holed by the anchor.
In the next record seen, Robert was living in Dromana. On 9-3-1861, along with 22 other residents (including William Cottier and John Campbell, both later of Rye), Robert signed a petition that is shown on page 132 of Dreamtime of Dromana. By this time Robert was married and he and Christina must have lived for some time in a slab hut near the corner of Carrigg St for that knowledge to become etched in McLear folklore. Robert was working for Peter Pidota, loading timber from Arthurs Seat at Sheepwash Creek. An examination of rate records revealed that Robert was not assessed on his Truemans Rd land until 1867 so he was probably at Dromana until then.
A descendant of Robert (Ron Doig) told me that Robert made many visits to Tasmania. Perhaps these took place between 1846 and 1849 and between about 1851 and 1861. Henry Wells referred to Robert as an old shipmate, so they may have been crewmen on a vessel trading between Melbourne and Tasmania. This occupation would have made frequent visits possible.
And one of Roberts destinations on these trips would have been Longford where Christina lived.
William Rowley married Susan Andrew. Like Michael Cain, William tried his luck in Gippsland. He owned farms at Harkaway and met Susan Andrew there.
Frank, son of Robert snr married Annie Collier.
Robert Rowley (born 1876) married Amie? Margaret Cain.
This should be Annie; see CAIN-ROWLEY.
They were probably schoolmates at Rye State School.
Wilfred, son of William, and grandson of Robert snr, married married Emma Shaw.
Emma was not the daughter of Ben Shaw of Dromana. After WW1, Wilfred went to a soldier settlement farm in the Mallee near Barwarp and it was here that he met Emma.
See A Dreamtime of Dromana Pages 58 to 66.
Edward Russell married Mary Seaton Stuart.
Edward Russell was a pretty tough cookie. Deciding not to desert at Dromana, he had no choice when his ship berthed. It, like countless other vessels, was going nowhere. So he walked for two days to join his shipmates, limeburning at the heads. He was no sook but on one occasion, he sought medical attention for an injury at the Quarantine Station. He was attended by Nurse Stuart, who became his wife.
Alex, son of Edward, married a daughter of John Watson. Edward had a lime kiln on the west side of Dundas Street and before Blair obtained land grants to become the new owner of many kilns, Edward would have loaded his lime onto limecraft in the bay. No doubt he would have met John Watson in this way. John was a fisherman who started fishing near Weeroona Bay in about 1860 but moved his base to the Western Sister in 1873. If his lookout spotted a school heading east, John would follow it and sail near the limecraft. Perhaps Edward tried a bit of fishing himself when the demand for lime slackened. Edward Russells landholdings are discussed elsewhere.
In case you have forgotten, all entries in family connections so far have come from LIME LAND LEISURE except for those in which the first family named was CAIRNS. In some cases, details of marriage partners given by the two families differ, and this has been pointed out. The following four entries can be compared with CAIRNS-RUSSELL entries taken from Peter Wilsons THE CAIRNS FAMILY OF BONEO. I place more trust in Peter Wilsons details given in brackets below.
My understanding of Lime Land Leisure is that the four Russell girls following were the daughters of Edward Russell Jnr, son of Edward and Mary.
Juliana Russell married James Cairns. (Johanna, called Hannah, and James)
Hannah Russell married David Cairns. (Elizabeth Russell and David)
Mary Russell married Jack Cairns. (Mary and John)
Margaret Russell married Christie Cairns. (Margaret and Christopher)
. (The grooms were all sons of the original David Cairns.)
FOR ALL SKELTON CONNECTIONS, READ FAMILY, CONNECTIONS, SORRENTO and PORTSEA BY JENNIFER NIXON. Any comments that I make will add to Jennifers extensive detail. Jennifers book enabled me to find the origins of many street names near Sorrento.
Jane Skelton married John Watts.
For some reason, I gained the impression from Jennifer Nixons account that they married a handful of years after their first meeting. The following was inspired by the account in Those Courageous Hardy Women whose author justified the legend that John first saw Jane when she was six. The sort of leg-pulling that is perpetrated by the pioneers at The Heads in this excerpt from my Canterbury Tales was very common according to Leila Shaw in The Way We Were.
WE DIG THE DIRT ABOUT THE PIONEERS.
BODY SNATCHERS NABBED.
THE HEADS 13-5-1846. Ray Gibb
Do you remember the case of body snatchers robbing graves in London for medical students to cut up in the search for knowledge? The peelers finally stopped this ghastly practice there but it appears that it has re-emerged in the Port Phillip District.
Recently a ship had entered the heads at dusk and the captain decided to anchor and replenish his supply of drinking water, knowing that the Yarra Yarra was already polluted by slaughteryards and tanneries. At dawn, he sent the bosun with a small crew to obtain fresh water.
Landing at what sailors call Shelly Beach, the men noticed smoke and were fearful of being attacked by native savages but the bosun, hearing the sound of metal on rock, reassured them that they would find white men over the brow. Then he saw them. They were digging in the ground but stopped to wave when they saw the sailors.
Bosun Thatcher introduced himself and his men and found that the men were called Skelton, Sullivan, Rowley and Ford, the last of whom was Dennis Sullivans son-in-law. Whos that woman over there? asked Watt, one of the sailors. Thats my mother, replied young Rowley, adding, Shes Mrs Kenyon now.
Remembering his mission, the bosun noticed a small lagoon behind the woman and directed his men to proceed in that direction with their leather buckets. He glanced back as he heard the diggers chuckling and whispering something about new chums. As he strolled off, he wondered what the men were digging.
Arriving at the waterhole, Thatcher saw his men coming back after emptying the first bucket loads into the barrel sitting in the boat. Something seemed strange about young Watts back; he looked like a hunchback. As Watts came closer, the bosun realized what was causing his changed appearance.
Hello gel, whats your name? he asked. My nameth Jane Thkelton and Im Thix, replied the pretty lass whose elocution was somewhat hampered by the evacuation of baby teeth. Dont hinder Mr Watts little leech; hes got work to do. Watts said, Shes no problem and besides shes funny. When I asked her what Mrs Kenyon was doing, she said, killin. Mmmm, killing what, I wonder? Well get on with it Watts.
As Watts and the others filled the barrel to the top and prepared to leave, Thatchers curiosity got the better of him and he asked Jane, What are the men digging for? Bodieth Thir. Within minutes, Thatcher had the diggers under arrest and in the brig. Strangely they all wore smirks.
LIMESTONE. Our female reporter, Gay Ribb.
White Cliff 14-6-1846.It appears that the small community at The Heads uses humour in order to overcome isolation. Apparently the killin or kiln is a sort of fireplace where they burn limestone, which is composed of the bodies of sea creatures.
Ironically, the inspiration for this story came when I was writing that the motivation for W.A.Blairs purchase of vast holdings was less to do with the land than what lay under it. At that stage, I used the two- syllable rendition of kiln to produce the misunderstanding that led to the fictitious arrest, but in the last week, I came across Jennifer Nixons book, in which this pronunciation of kiln is confirmed as being common. I wonder if one day the pick-a- back will be confirmed too! I believe the year of the article should be 1854, not 1846, as John deserted his ship in 1856, two years after meeting Jane.
SKELTON-CLARK (See Clark- Skelton) and much detail in THOSE COURAGEOUS HARDY WOMEN and FAMILY, CONNECTIONS, SORRENTO AND PORTSEA.
James, son of Edward Snr married Ann Dark.
Margaret Sarah (born 1859), daughter of John Spunner, married George Henry Stringer in 1882. Their marriage was brief because George died on 27-1-1887 at only 28. Margarets widowhood lasted over 60 years until she died on 15-8-1947. Details in bold type are from Rye Cemetery records, which are on the internet.
The Stringer family was obviously in the area well before David McFarlan arrived in Sorrento in 1900 and involved Walter Stringer in his store that later became Stringers.
John Spunner built a home called Hill Holme at Sorrento and was obviously living there by 1882. (I have not recorded rate records for Nepean Parish.)
Hollinshed wrongly stated that John had received a grant at Melway 253 CD 1-3 in 1867 and run a dairy farm until he sold the 164 acres in the land boom, giving the impression that the farm was sold before the house was built. Having strained my eyes trying to read dates on parish maps, I understand how easy it is to make such mistakes.
Allotment 29 Wannaeue was granted to John Spunner on 2-5-1887. John had not settled on allotment 29 by 1879 and I believe that John Adolphus Jenner (who on 18-4-1877 had been granted lot 32, between lot 29 and Springs Lane) was leasing lot 29 as well.
The question is: what did Margaret do as a widow to support herself for 60 years? Did she run a shop for decades like Jane Warren (Patterson) did at Dromana after her artistic husband Fred died young.
Benjamin (1815-1897) married Mary Ann, daughter of Samuel Sherlock.
Mary Ann was the sister of the Sam Sherlock who was much involved in the southern peninsula as a lad and later became a pioneer of the area north of the Osborne Township which the locals called Green Island. This name is perpetuated by Green Island Av (145 E6). Ben and Mary Ann (and Mary Jane, probably their daughter) were buried at Rye Cemetery; their details are on the cemetery microfiche at Rosebud Library.
Sam Sherlock worked for the Barkers at Boneo and at The Briars for Balcombe. After his marriage, he carried the mail on horseback from Rye and Hastings to Cheltenham.
( Osborne Primary School Centenary 1873-1973 by Leslie Moorhead.)
Perhaps it was en route to Cheltenham that he spotted the Green Island land. According to LIME LAND LEISURE, Sam Sherlock was a co-grantee of the Stenniken land (at 14) but it was probably Mary Anns father.
Benjamin Henry, son of Jack and grandson of Benjamin Jnr, married Dorothy, daughter of Harry Prince. Ray Cairns told me that Harry Prince bought some of his fathers land near Maroolaba and that it came into Bens ownership after the death of Harry Prince.
(See TALKING HISTORY WITH RAY CAIRNS by Ray Gibb.)
Ray Cairns father, Hill Harry, inherited Maroolaba from his father, the original Rodert Cairns, who settled in Boneo in 1852. Robert Cairns and the Pattersons moved to Fingal, near Pattersons Rd at about the same time in the 1870s. Rather than repeat information contained in the PATTERSON-STENNIKEN entry, I will simply state that Maroolaba (part of which was bought by Harry Prince) was 260 metres from Mary Jane Stennikens grant. The Prince family could have earlier lived near Truemans Rd, but, if not, Fingal provides an explanation as to how the two families connected.
Maria, daughter of Benjamin Stenniken Snr married Godfrey Burdett, son of Henry William Wilson. Benjamin Stenniken was based inTruemans Rd but also leased land on the western portion of Jamiesons Special Survey near Pickings Lane. Family members could have resided there to manage the property for Ben. Maria certainly resided there in the summer. Big Clarke had bought the survey and the northern part was given to Bruce, his son-in-law. (Colin McLears version is more likely than Hollinsheds.) Maria used to work at Bruces house during the season.
One more piece of information is contained in the final verse of one of my first pieces, a poem called ALONG THE BACK TRACK, which can be found in my CANTERBURY TALES and describes a trip made by drapery hawker, Charles Graves, and young Godfrey Wilson in about 1860. They have traveled from The Willow (Safety Beach area) to the corner of Weeroona and Browns Rds, Godfrey having been reassured by Graves that the smoke came from kilns, not a bushfire.
As they turned back to Kangerong,
A well-known man came riding strong,
With five year old Maria, running late.
Godfrey married Maria in 1878.
STENNIKEN-CLEMENGER (See PATTERSON- STENNIKEN.)
Jack Stenniken married Lily Clemenger.
By 1910, Mary Ann Stenniken (most likely the owner of the Fingal land) was living in Dromana and assessed on crown allotment 6 of section 17. This block with frontages to McCulloch St and Heales St and halfway between the school corner and the freeway was leased from Patterson. Ralph Patterson had probably just leased it to her (because of the position of Mary Anns assessment). His wifes entry is next and her property (1 lot and buildings, McCulloch St) was probably next door. As lot 6 had no buildings, it is likely that Mary Ann was staying with Ralph and her daughter, Rachel. Ralph Godfrey Patterson (whose second given name recalls the marriage of 1878 in the previous entry) was leasing 287 acres (lots 18 and 19) from Clarke on the Survey and was probably Rachels husband and Mary Anns son in law. His move to Dromana probably followed the sale of his Fingal grant to one of the Cairns family. (His 244 acres may have been the bulk of the 260 acres that Harry Cairns sold to Harry Prince.)
Robert Adams sold crown allotment 19 of Wannaeue (between Parkmore Rd and Adams Ave) to William Tetley in about April 1889. Subdivision plan 3513 shows that the Clemengers bought lots 1-5 of section B, fronting Parkmore and Rosemore Rds. Albert Holloway built Parkmore in 1896, probably on lots 1-5 of section A, fronting Pt Nepean Rd. The Clemengers bought this historic house in 1908, after it was occupied for some time by Mr and Mrs Fair. The Clemengers introduced tented accommodation. Jack Stenniken was born in 1893 and died in 1970.
(Adams Corner and Rosebud Flower of the Peninsula by Ray Gibb.)
Jack might have met Lily at a dance at the Mechanics Institute dances at Dromana, Rosebud or Rye or perhaps at the Boneo hall on the CFA site. Another possibility is that he worked for Ralph on the Survey or met Lily on the way from Truemans Rd to visit Mary Ann Stenniken in Dromana.
John, son of Dennis and Honora, married Hannah ONeil. I offer two speculative suggestions about how they met.
1.John, like many Peninsula pioneers, might have tried his luck at Bendigo or Ballarat. On the way to either, he would have passed through Keilor where Brees bridge of 1854 enabled a more direct route than the older ones through Maribyrnong (Raleighs Punt) and Bulla. William ONeill owned Horseshoe Bend and like Basket Davey Milburn, Victorias first official irrigator, he probably sold his produce at the roadside.
It is likely that the Sullivans already knew ONeil. They may even have arrived at the five year old settlement on the same ship. ONeil, one of Melbournes early policemen, might have brought Honora before the court of Petty sessions for an offence against the Masters and Servants act on 27-11-1842. Like all citizens of Melbourne, he would have marveled at the gigantic cucumber grown by the Sullivans near Merri Creek in 1843 before they moved to The Heads. Most workers squatted in rough shelters at The Brickfields (South Melbourne) or Newtown (Fitzroy) as they could not afford to buy or rent on the surveyed town, and the Sullivans were probably near Newtown. (See sources and more detail in the SULLIVAN entry.)
The baptism of three Sullivan children at St Augustines Keilor between mid 1854 and early 1862 lends weight to my theory that John might have gone to the goldfields with some cousins who came out later for that purpose; one of the children was named Timothy. Their parents were working in the area, one at Jacksons Creek (perhaps for the Reddans) and another at Keilor Plains (almost certainly for Taylor, Robertson or Big Clarke). That peninsula pioneers would seek employment at thriving Keilor after an unsuccessful stint at the diggings, is shown by the presence of Edwin Daly Tassell (probably the son of Edwin Louis Tassell a pioneer of the Safety Beach area) whose daughter was christened at the temporary St Augustines in 1858.
2.A map on page 6 of Leila Shaws THE WAY WE WERE shows that J. Sullivan and J.ONeill were pioneers of the Somerville area. Their grants were, respectively, at Melway 149 J3 and 148 J6. Somerville became the home of plant nurseries and orchards with those of the Brunnings family (which started this business in St Kilda) gaining international fame. These facts lead me to the following fantasy.
Trudging dejectedly back from the diggings, the emaciated John Sullivan hears a familiar voice calling his name. William ONeil offers him a job after hearing of Johns woes. While tending ONeils apricot orchard, John meets Hannah. They and a relative, whose name is rendered with a double L by some official, move to Somerville to continue their orcharding occupation. (Apricots were the main crop of Keilor and Peter Anderson kept growing them at Horseshoe Bend after the Spaniards such as Borrell and Vert switched the emphasis to growing cauliflowers and tomatoes.)
Whether J.Sullivan was our John is not yet known, but if so, he would not have been the only Southern Peninsula identity to receive grants in the area; Henry Gomm, guardian of the Rosebud jetty bought allotment 48 at 148 E8.
See THOSE COURAGEOUS HARDY WOMEN regarding the fate of John and Hannahs children. This probably explains the Clark-Clark marriage!
Patrick, son of Dennis married Ellen, daughter of William Grace. Ellens father was an early grantee of 249 acres fronting the west end of Boundary Rd at Dromana and bounded by Caldwell Rd, Pindara Rd and the eastern end of streets such as Beverley St and Cloud St. On his farm Gracefield he planted vineyards and orchards. Patrick named his hotel at Rye after the farm, which is recalled by Gracefield Ave at 159 H9.
During the late1860s, Williams vineyards were wiped out by a disease that spread through most wine-growing areas. It is likely that he leased the farm to the Counsells. He probably bought allotment 6 of section 3 in the township of Rye at about this time. The half acre block ran from the Esplanade (a name given for Pt Nepean Rd in Dromana, Rosebud and Rye townships) to Nelson St and was just a little nearer to Dundas St than Napier St. As can be seen in Melway 168 F4, this is almost the exact location of the Rye Hotel, which was built on the site of Patricks Gracefield Hotel in 1927 by the Hunts.
It is possible that the two families had met before William moved his family to Rye. While most of the Sullivan grants were near the south end of Weeroona Rd (and used to extract limestone for the kiln there, which was managed by Antonio Albress after Patricks death), Catherine Sullivan was granted allotments 15 a and b Wannaeue (152 acres) fronting the north side of Browns Rd and extending east from the Kinwendy Rd corner 767 metres (halfway) to the Purves Rd corner. Catherine was one of earliest landowners in Wannaeue, receiving her grant on 31-10-1858. No doubt she was self sufficient but if she needed to buy anything Dromana was the destination. It already had Holdens store near the Carrigg St corner and Richard Watkins Dromana Hotel and possibly the Arthurs Seat hotel near Foote St and soon the McLears would open their butchers shop.
To get there in the 1860s, she would climb Purves Rd and then take Bryans Cutting down through the town common, just west of the Gracefield boundary. No doubt she would drop in for a cuppa and a chat with Williams wife.
The naming of Grace St in Rye could be given a dual justification; it could be named after William Grace or it might honour Grace Sullivan, a much- loved teacher who tragically died young, apparently from the Spanish Flu.
Timothy (known as Ted), son of Dennis married a Kenyon girl.
She was almost certainly the daughter of Richard Kenyon and his wife, who was Robert Rowleys mother. (See TCHW.) Timothy was probably about 20 when the Sullivans arrived at the Heads in late 1843 and started limeburning alongside the Kenyons who might have arrived in 1939 to produce lime for John Pascoe Fawkner. I believe that they married a few years later, went to the goldfields with Timothys brother John and spent some time market gardening near Keilor where a child was born. That might be why nobody remembered the name of Timothys wife. (See SULLIVAN ONEIL.)
In Lime Land Leisure, it is stated that Gladys and Bertha were daughters of William Trueman and that Gladys Trueman married a Mr Williams of Chinamans Creek. Neither statement is correct. Gladys and Bertha were the only children of Thomas Trueman and Gladys married Andrew Seator in 1932.
Irene Ann, the daughter of John Francis Watts (son of John Watts and Janse Skelton) married H.Baker. As I have not recorded rates for Nepean parish, I am unaware if members of the Baker family moved west from the original base in Rye Township, but it is likely that Rye residents would have been involved with the social life of Sorrento, such as the picture thratre and dances.
The Watts family is much mentioned in THOSE COURAGEOUS HARDY WOMEN and FAMILY, CONNECTIONS, SORRENTO and PORTSEA and was largely involved in the story of Sorrento, where their house stands near the museum.
George Baker received the grants for crown allotments for 1,2,3 and 6 of section 7 in the township of Rye in 1872. Lot 1 contained the present post office site and his frontages extended 180 metres east and 180 metres south from the corner. He must have died before 1900 when his executors were assessed on 67 acres in lots 1 and 2 of the parish of Nepean, between Weir St and Government Rd. The Baker family is mentioned on pages 29, 36, 47-8, 51-2, 54, 109 and 119 of Rye Primary School 1667. One of the teachers at the school was named Baker. (P.57)
The husband of Irene Ann Watts might have moved to the Rosebud area with several other members of the Baker family. The Sands and McDougall directory reveals that H.Baker was a fruiterer there in 1950. Also listed were farmers, Alec O. Baker and Leslie E.Baker as well as William C.Baker.
On page 86 of ON THE ROAD TO ROSEBUD, Peter Wilson states that Harry Baker received an ankle wound in WW1 that caused a limp; he threw his right leg forward as he walked. If I remember correctly, he visited Rosebud School in disguise on the last schoolday of 1939, Santas first* ever visit. Unfortunately everyone recognized the limp at once but, of course, did not let on that they recognized Harry. (*It was probably not much earlier that Coca Cola popularized Santas role in Christmas festivities.)
His house was at 9-11 Rosebud Pde and he rented a shop in the Broadway Theatre building where he sold greengroceries. His buying trips to the Victoria Market and his Saturday rounds were done in his Dodge ute.
Margaret Jean, another daughter of John Francis Watts, married R.Brown.
The notes that I made from Lime Land Leisure were mainly focused on Rosebud but I believe there was mention that J.F.Watts was the Ranger for Ocean Park and constructed the numbered lifesaving tracks, which still exist. In this role, he would have often come into contact with John H.Little Brown, who by 1910 had 616 acres in Wannaeue parish and 853 acres west of Weeroona Rd, along Browns Rd. The story of how he transformed rabbit and ti tree infested wasteland into rich pasture is told on page 36 of LIME LAND LEISURE, where he is referred to as Jim.
R.Brown was probably the son of Ryes saviour, to whom the last verse of my poem Lime was dedicated. (Relying on Hollinshed, I called him Jim.)
Land held by owners who were absent,
Smothered by ti tree growing rampant,
With rabbit burrows everywhere:
Restored by Jim Browns visionary flair.
In 1919-20, James Brown was assessed on crown allotments 1,2 and 3 of section 5 and buildings in Rye township. These allotments had a frontage to Nelson St of 60 metres from a point 40 metres from Lyons St to, probably, the present RSL land.
By that year, John H.L.Brown no longer appeared in Wannaeue rates. The land had obviously been improved and sold to such as L.McInnes (care of Jennings and McInnes, Bourke St, Melbourne) 243 acres, part crown allotments 34, 35 and (73?) between The Dunes and Moonah Links.
The two families are mentioned in RYE PRIMARY SCHOOL 1667 as follows.
WATTS. 28-9, 31, 34, 40, 115. BROWN. 28, 35, 36, 39, 53-4, (teacher 25).
The man who married Margaret Jean Watts was most likely Reginald G.Brown or Robin A.Brown, both of whom were listed as Rye residents in Sands and McDougalls directory of 1950.
Henry William Wilson married Thamer Burdett.
This marriage took place in England. Henry was the son of a London butcher. In 1843, Henry was running the Beauvoir Arms Hotel in in Kingsland Rd, London. Henry, Thamer and their four children left London on 22-1-1853 aboard the Emigrant and after a remarkably fast voyage, which obviously stopped them getting into the doldrums (in both ways), they reached Port Phillip on 23 April. (Dreamtime of Dromana page 43.) This source and Lime Land Leisure contain much business and genealogical detail about Henrys descendants.
It is possible that some of Thamers family came with them and any Burdett family historian should inspect the Emigrant passenger list for that voyage. Henry established an abbatoir at Sandridge (Port Melbourne) and lived in Emerald Hill, where it is possible that he came into contact with Isaac White and Captain Henry Everest Adams, pioneers of Rosebud, and that Captain Adams gave Henry Wilson an idea.
It is likely that Thamer was related, however distantly, to Sir Francis Burdett and his daughter, Angela Burdett. Sir Francis, a Baronet, had married Sophia, daughter of Thomas Coutts, a wealthy banker who founded Coutts and Co.
Now if Henry had chatted to Captain Adams, the old sea dog would have bragged about being the son of Lord Vivian (which led to the name of his vineyard, Vivyan, with spelling altered in case his real father had an agent in Singapore- and given names of many in the Adams line). Wilson would have thought, Well, my wife is related to the wealthiest woman in England and one of the greatest social reformers and philanthropists in the world; why not flaunt that fact? He was speaking of Angela, the first Baroness Burdett- Coutts and that is how the Wilsons and Stennikens used Coutts as a given name and Coutts St in Safety Beach got its name. See Historic Origins of Street names entry and the sources named above. (Details about Angela Burdett -Coutts from Wikipedia.)
The Burdett Quarry, on 101 hectares at 160 Potts Rd, Langwarrin, was probably established by relatives of Thamer. Burdett St in Frankstons The Pines Estate would have been named after the quarry family, which must have been in the area fairly early (since they shared this honour with the pioneering Brunnings family of Somerville); if it had been one of the many subdivision of Wilson land there would have been another street named Thamer, Wilson, Godfrey, Benjamin etc nearby. See next entry re Coutts.
Benjamin Godfrey John Ralph Wilson (son of Godfrey Burdett Wilson and grandson of Henry William and Thamer) married Dorothy McDowell. Bens first given name came from his maternal grandfather Ben Stenniken. His brothers had Henry, William, Samuel, James, Burdett, Coutts and Stenniken as given names.
Allotment 17, Wannaeue, on the west side of Jetty Rd, which extended to Spray St and Eastbourne Rd, was subdivided in the 1870s by the Woolcotts of Melbourne. George and Susan Peatey purchased 2 acres on which they grew vegetables, which they sold along with poultry, eggs etc. Their cottage burnt down in 1912 by which time their son had established a similar business on the east side of Peateys Creek (Murray-Anderson Rd) on a Rosebud Village (foreshore) block. Another early purchaser from the Woolcotts was the Education Department but that block was not as big as the present school site.
By 1900 the only other blocks sold were owned by George Chapman from Dromana (4), Charles James (3 acres), Marshall (William? 7 acres), postmaster John Roberts whose daughter established the Post Office Store, now a café of that name (4 and house) and Furmbisher (2.5 acres). The commercial bank now owned 84 acres of Woolcotts land. As crown allotment 17 consisted of 129.5 acres, Mrs Phillips and Frederick Taylor probably had three more blocks too.
By 1910, Henry Bucher had 4 lots, Annie Eliza Cairns 4, Rosebud Ted Cairns 6, Alf Hanson (of Alpine Chalet in Tucks Rd ) 6, blacksmith, Hy Geo Chapman 2, the Coburns of Springbank 4, Fallow 1, Maconochie 4, Back Road Bob Cairns 2 near state school, Marshall (Moonee Ponds R.E.Agent) 7, Susan Peatey 2, Mrs J.Spensley 4 and Vale , probably the politician after whom Vale St in Mornington was named had the 84 acres forfeited by Woolcott.
By 1920, Mrs Mary Butler had a house on lot 49 and her rate notice was to be sent to Mrs McDowell of Rosebud. Robert McDowell had lots 77, 79 and part of lot 75 and buildings. These were across McDowell St from the Presbyterian Church, which became the site of Woolworths. Ernest Rudducks store was being run by L.C.Leech. Houses had been built by the Cairns family, Mrs Helena Salina Mitchell of Essendon, and Joseph Maconochie of Richmond. One house had disappeared and Alf and John Peatey were assessed on the block only.
McDowell Street changed little for years. The McDowells neighbours were Don Miller and his caravan park opposite the school, Rosebud Ted opposite Pattersons Garage, then Ivy Patterson, Harry Nichols and the SEC on the Rosebud Avenue Ave corner.
SOURCES: A Dreamtime of Dromana by Colin McLear, Kangerong and Flinders rate records, Wannaeue parish map, Pine Trees and Box Thorns by Rosalind Peatey, The Cairns Family of Boneo by Peter Wilson, On the Road to Rosebud by Peter Wilson, Map of early Rosebud incorporated in Early Rosebud by Ray Gibb.
Samuel James Stenniken (son of Godfrey Wilson and Maria, nee Stenniken) married Ruby Bery Rudduck, daughter of Nelson Rudduck and Jane Sophia, nee Chapman.
After Nelson died in 1935, Sam and Ruby moved into Piawola, the fine double storey house next to the Uniting Church in Dromana that Nelson built in 1894. The connection between the families goes back to the arrival in Dromana of Nelson and Jane from Dandenong in 1871 or early 1872. By 1867 Henry William Wilson had given up his occupation as a bullocky to become a butcher, grazing and slaughtering on 45 acres that was known as the Dromana Aerial Landing Ground by 1927*, and selling his meat from a shop whose location is described in two different ways by Colin McLear. (Main St or McCulloch St?) Henry retired in 1877 at 57 and Godfrey took charge of the company, expanding into Sorrento and building a brick shop and home** in Gibson St, Dromana. (*New abbatoirs had been established at Melway 167 F2, and operated until 1955, where Coutts Crt, Godfrey St, Benjamin Pde and Wilson Rd now stand. **Godfrey named the home Beauvoir after a hotel that his father had run in London in 1843.)
Sam was born in 1886 and died in 1949. On his fathers death in 1919, Sam and his brother, Ben, took over the Dromana portion of the empire Godfrey had built up and also expanded their retail into McCrae and Rosebud where older brother Henry had built shops. They relocated their shop to Main St in 1934.
SOURCE:MEMOIRS OF A LARRIKIN by Hector Hanson.
James Purves was born on 29-9-1835 at Newcastle on Tyne and died on 6-11-1913 at Rosebud. In 1862, he married Emily Caroline Quinan, who was born on 16-3-1844 at Broken River (Benalla) and died on 4-8-1910 at Rosebud.
James was born only seven months after his father, Peter (born 1802 Berwick upon Tweed) married his sweetheart, Ann Scott, and Ann died a month after the birth. Leaving James with an aunt (Mrs Russell), Peter, a mason, sought to ease his grief by joining his architect brother, James, building bridges in Tasmania. At about 16, James set off for Australia on the Thomas Lowry, wanting to get to know his father. Arriving in 1852, he joined Peter and Uncle James at Tootgarook Station. Young James had eight years to pursue his aim before Peter died in March 1860.
Two years later James married Emily. It is likely that Emily was the daughter of Robert Dublin Quinan and Emma. These two had established a private school in Dromana on 12-11-1860 and on 1-6-1861, it was chosen over Daniel Nicholsons private school to become the National School. The Quinans lived at a boarding house on Boags dairy near the junction of Seacombe St and Palmerstone Ave. Boag had been a supporter of Quinlans school being chosen. It may surprise Rye historians that Robert Rowley, William Cottier and John Campbell supported Quinans application. The last two were in White Cliff within a few years and built the Rye Hotel, which led to a new name for the limeburning settlement.
The year 1865 should have been a happy one for James and Emily. Their first child, James, had been born in 1863 and registered at Pt Nepean (probably by an official at the Quarantine Station) and in 1865 their second child, George Liddle, was born and registered at the same place. However 1865 was probably one of immense sadness for the new parents and for Richard Watkin, owner of the Dromana Hotel.
Teachers salaries were alarmingly low, perhaps causing the poor quality of many teachers at the time. Robert Quinan was however, efficient and carried out his duties in a satisfactory manner and was regarded as a gentleman of the highest character, as Rowleys and 22 other Dromana residents testimony declared. Needing to supplement his income, Robert did book-keeping for the Kangerong and Flinders Shire. Finding that the books did not balance, he tried to borrow the missing five pounds from Watkins without explaining why he needed it. Unaware of the teachers desperation, Watkin said that he had no money to spare. As described in great detail by Colin McLear, Quinan was so shamed by his inability to balance the books that he committed suicide on 22-1-1865.
(Quinan information from A Dreamtime of Dromana.)
Crown allotments 4 and 5 of section 12 at Dromana had been granted to R.D.Quinan on 30-3-1864 and each had a 20 metre frontage to Codrington and Verdon Streets, starting 40 metres from Hodgkinson St.
Jim Purves (1863-1927) never married and George Liddle Purves (1865-1892) probably died unmarried at about 27 years of age. Other offspring of James and Emily who are not mentioned in following entries are:
Emily (1867 Tootgarook-1947 WA), Lily (1870 Toot. 1938, never married)
Robert (1872 Toot. 1937, married Emma Mason), Walter (1875 Toot. 1935, m.1904 to Leila F.Cotton) and Ernest (1885 Dromana 1886). Walter and Leilas son, Arthur, spent time in the Mt Beauty area during WW2 in charge of an air force building supplying clothing. Jim, Robert and Walter all fought in the Boer War and later Robert and Walter worked for the Richmond Brewery, breaking in horses to haul the wagons loaded with beer barrels. One of James and Emilys sons appears to have had a son named Peter, who was in the 6th Division in WW2 with Reg Sheehan and Stan White of Red Hill.
Of the nine children who survived childhood, three clearly married in the area. George may have been involved in the firm of W.J. Purves of 268 Swanston St Melbourne, which supplied seeds for fruit and vegetables by post prepaid.W.J.Purves might have been his cousin, a son of Uncle James, and brother of James Liddle Purves, a barrister and politician. (Chandeliers and Billy Tea by Peter Cuffley.)
The birth place of Ernest shows that James was on Purves Rd by 1885 and that not all crown allotments shown as being granted to James Purves may have been granted to Uncle James of Tootgarook. All grants issued in the name of James Purves are detailed in my PURVES entry. However I will detail here the properties discussed by Hec Hanson in Memoirs of a Larrikin.
Jim Purves (1863-1927) bred ponies at his property on Purves Rd, just down from Arthurs Seat.This was Crown Allotment 28C, section B, Wannaeue, consisting of 102 acres and granted on 22-3-1909 to J.Purves. (Melway 171 E-F 6).
Peter Purves (1880-1940), son of James and Emily, had a paddock near the corner of Purves Rd, Browns Rd and Baldrys Rd. The 1920 rates show that Peter Purvis had Jims 102 acres, which was mistakenly described as part of 28C, and 181 acres and buildings14AB, section B Wannaeue. Allotments 14A and B were granted to James Purves on 10-11-1869 and are indicated by 171 D-E 11.
Hec Hanson mentions Green Hills several times but unfortunately does not specify its location. Luckily the rate collector did, in 1900.David Cairns was assessed on 260 acres 13 AB Greenhills. This was immediately north of 14AB but extended west to Gardens Rd with Davos Rd indicating its northern boundary This had been granted to J.Ford on 4-10-1883 (James Sandle Ford. James Ford Jnr or Joseph Ford). In 1864 James Ford Jnr was assessed on 260 acres Eaton Hill (Thats what I thought the illegible scribble said, and it makes sense because of Watson Eatons 150 acres east of Eatons Cutting Rd, but it might have meant Green Hill.) As David Cairns was on Greenhills in 1900, it is not surprising that Peter Purves and Bella Cairns were acquainted. The location of Green Hills is confirmed by a map in Hecs book.
POSTSCRIPT. Emily Quinan obviously had a brother named Robert. While inspecting rate records for the Red Hill entry, I noticed that Robert Quinan was assessed on two blocks in Dromana in 1887. You will remember that his father committed suicide in 1865.
Barbara Scott Purves , daughter of James and Emily (Quinan), was born at Rye in 1878, married James Wilson in 1915 and died in 1934. By 1920, James Wilson was farming 163 acres at Main Creek, part 23B and 23B2. This was part of William Hilliss grants and was accessed off Purves Rd via Wilson Rd but James may have had a frontage to Main Creek Rd as well. Jim Wilsons brother, Bob, was almost killed at Red Hill on 9-3-1902 when he fell and his head was split open by an axe. Happily Bob survived and married Esther. Jim Wilsons place was called Fernlea. He and Barbara had a boy called Harold, known as Cocko. Jim had a Morris truck.
I had been told by Thelma Littlejohn that this Wilson family was not related to Henry William Wilson. While researching rate records for the Red Hill entry, I discovered that George Wilson was assessed on 32 acres in the first ratebook of the Flinders Road Board. By 11-5-1872, George was farming 48 acres. On 24-2-1882, George was granted title to allotment 66A of 40 acres, bounded by Stony Creek (W), Shoreham Rd (E), and bisected diagonally by the end of Shands Rd (255 H-J 1). In 1887, Elizabeth Wilson, spinster, was leasing 200 acres from the Crown in the parish of Bittern.
It is likely that Jim Wilson was a son or nephew of George and niece of Elizabeth.
It is still possible that George was a brother of Henry Wingy Wilson, unknown to the McLears. George may have been with Henry at the latters run near Cranbourne and settled a bit further from Dromana after a disease had killed the cattle.
Peter Purves, daughter of James and Emily, was born at Tootgarook in 1881 and married Isabella Cairns. Peter died in1940 and was buried at Rye Cemetery. Ray Cairns told me that Bella was Jimmys daughter. Robert, Alexander and David Cairns all called their first child James but I think that Bellas father was the son of Alex who was born in 1850 and was buried at Dromana Cemetery. The next son of Alex, John, married Emma Baldry who lived about a mile south of the Purves land. The Cairns family had been, and continued as, neighbours of the Purves. Another Cairns girl who married in this area was George Johnstons wife, Ollie, who could never work out how she got grass burrs on the back of her gown while she was dancing. I wonder what George thought, Cocko!
Alfred George Hanson married Frances Ada Elizabeth Purves in 1906. Frances, born on 13-2-1883 at Tootgarook, was the ninth child of James and Emily Purves. Their tenth and last child, Ernest was born in 1885 at Dromana and died in 1886.
Alfs parents were both born in Norway; Hans Christian Hanson in 1857 and Ellen Olson (en) in 1846. Alf was the fifth of six children. Hans was a bridge-building contractor who worked on all the bridges between Melbourne and Bright. Unless Alf had left the family home very early, Hans and Ellen must have settled near Red Hill. Their son, Alf, was only about 18 in 1902 when Bob Wilsons head was split open during a hive-robbing effort at Red Hill. It is possible that Hans managed, leased or bought William Hopcrafts grants, 70 A and B in the parish of Balnarring, between the start of Tucks Rd and Stony Creek, where Alf and Frances lived by about 1913. They called their fine old two- storey house (probably built by Robert Adams father-in-law), Alpine Chalet. From the house they could see the houses of Bob and Esther Wilson and the Laurissens across the Stony Creek gully.
When part of the property was sold to the Lessings, a new house was built near the north boundary by Littlejohn the builder and given the same name. Alf was a jack of all trades, as most country folk had to be in those days and was well known for his skills as a blacksmith (implements) and animal doctor. Like Robert and Walter Purves, his brothers-in-law, he broke in horses, for G.T.Alnutt who was making the road to Flinders. (Alnutt also improved the road around Anthonys Nose that had first been made by Edward Williams in the 1880s.)
Alf and Frances moved to Tawonga near Mt Beauty and Frances died at her daughter, Ritas, place near the Kiewa River.on 20-12-1951. When Alf died in the Tawonga Hospital on 5-3-1960, his body was brought back to be buried at Dromana by his sons, Merv and Hec, and Hedley Tate, in Hedleys panel van.
POSTSCRIPT.While researching rate records for the RED HILL entry, I discovered that Hans Christian Hansen, carpenter owned 89 acres in Balnarring parish in 1887. I suspect that he had arrived between Spring 1886 and Winter 1887 as he was not assessed in 1886-7 and the rate collector had slotted his entry into the correct alphabetical position in 1887. Due to the location of Alpine Chalet in Hecs map, it is certain that Hans had bought Hopcrafts allotment 70B of 89 acres and 2 perches.
Arthur Ernest Mervyn (Merv) was the fifth child of Alf Hansen and Frances (Purves), born almost two years after Hector (the larrikin), at Alpine Chalet on 9-1-1915. He died on 7-7-1990 at Rosebud. When Merv was three and a half years old he lost part of his index finger in a chaff cutter. He was rushed to the Dromana Bush Nursing Hospital (opposite the present B.P. garage on land donated by Nelson Rudduck) and while he was there, his future wife, Dot Jennings was born.
The year before Merv was born the Jennings family settled on Kariah, fronting Browns Rd between Dundas St and Weeroona Rd. However the Hanson and Jennings families were probably already acquainted because the Jennings had previously farmed near Flinders. (See JENNINGS-HADDOW, JENNINGS-TUCK.)
Dorothy was probably the daughter of George Ernest (Ern) and Mary (Wiffen), who had nine children. Ern sold his share of Kariah and bought a milk round from Bob Rowley and later expanded into Rosebud, leasing a large property near Leonard St, Tootgarook for milk production. His daughter, Hannah, did one of the milk runs daily.
(Jennings: A pioneering Rye Family by Linda Berndt, SOUTHERN PENINSULA NEWS 13-7-2010.)
Reg Sheehan, who fought in both world wars married Miss Annie Shaw who was a teacher at the Red Hill School.
SOURCE:A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA
SOURCE: Historic Houses of Essendon by Lenore Frost
Sources as stated.
SOURCE: Adams family genealogy. See my Adams Corner for full details.
SOURCE: Pine Trees and Box Thorns by Rosalind Peatey.
SOURCE: Talking History With Ray Cairns by Ray Gibb.
SOURCE: On the Road to Rosebud by Peter Wilson.
SOURCE:Rosebud:Flower of thePeninsula.
SOURCE: Keith Holmes.See HOLMES entry.
Jack Shand, son of Alex Shand of Main Ridge, married the widow of John Huntley, who bought 15A Kangerong from John Holmes.
Fred Nashs daughter, Dolly, married one of the Davidsons
DAVIDSON (nee NASH)- EDWARDS
When her first husband died, Dolly married Bob Edwards.
There were two unrelated men named Robert White. The one who married Hannah Roberts of Main Ridge was known as Bullocky Bob and belonged to the family after which Whites Rd (off Purves Rd) was named.
William Alfred Holmes married Emily Sheehan. Their first meeting at Murtoa is detailed in the HOLMES entry.
George Gomm, the father of Local Footy Hero Murray Gomm, married Jim Wilsons daughter, Leila, (a grand-daughter of James Purves of Green Hills in Purves Rd.) George Gomm was the grandson of Henry Gomm who built the Somerville Hotel and with his brother William is regarded as one of the legends of the Somerville Football Club.
Murray Gomm, the son of George and Leila was declared a Local Footy Hero on Chanel 31s Local Footy Show near the end of the 2010 season. (See The Mysterious Henry Gomm.)
Smith Ellis married one of the Tuck girls.
Bob Wilson married Smith Elliss sister. Bob and Jim Wilson were twins according to Keith Holmes. Hec Hansen said that Bob and Thelma Wilson and the Laurissens lived across the Stony Creek Gully from the Hansons Alpine Chalet. (See PURVES-HANSON.)
SOURCE: ANDREW THOMPSON DESPERATELY SEEKING, HERALD SUN, 13-2-11.
Peter Thompson (1822-1870) married Amelia Beck (1833-1906) in 1853 if I interpreted the ambiguity correctly (I presume she was Peters wife and not a descendant born when Peter was 11 years old!) They spent most of their married life in Sorrento. The following entries detail their children and their spouses. Their first child, Joseph, was born and died in 1854. All the others married. Thompson was most likely a limeburner who built a hut on a lime station in the area (on which land the licensee was assessed, which explains the absence of Thompsons name from the 1865 Nepean rates).
THOMPSON-BENNETT. Louis (1855-1899) married Cecilia Bennett. Cecelia and Rachael were probably daughters of Thomas Bennett, who jumped ship with John Watts and John Dillon. Bennett was an early limeburner with a kiln about 400 metres south of Kalimna Crescent in Rye. Bennett lost his kiln when land hog, Melbourne lime merchant, W.A.Blair received grants for all the land between Rye Township and Browns Rd on 19-6-1867. Some descendants may have moved to Bittern where there is a Bennett St.
THOMPSON-EWIN. Thompson (1857-1932) married Laura Ewin.
THOMPSON-DEPINA. Emily (1859-1941) married John Depean (Depina). Depina and Tony Salvas were of Portugese origin and probably worked first at Kettles kiln near Portsea, perhaps with Peter Thompson.
THOMPSON-SALVAS. Caroline (1860-1920) married Antonio Salvas. Despite the conjecture in LIME LAND LEISURE, it was not Tony Salvas that was running the Sullivan lime kiln south of Weeroona Rd. It was Antonio Albress whose grant was about half a mile east on the north side of Browns Rd.
THOMPSON-BENNETT. William (1862-1930) married Rachel Bennett.
THOMPSON-DIXON. Peter (1864-1916) married Annie Dixon.
THOMPSON-MALLOY. David (1866-1934) married Marra Malloy.
THOMPSON-BARKER. Thomas (1868-1934) married Susan Barker. Susan was probably the daughter of John Barker of the Boneo Pre-emptive right, 640 acres bounded by Browns Rd, a continuation of Grasslands Rd, Limestone Rd and Boneo Rd.
THOMPSON- HILL then ROWE. James (1870-1937) married Helen Hill& Maria Rowe.
Helen Hill was probably a member of the Rye family.
Details given in Lime Land Leisure on page130 conflict in regard to Emily Thompson, saying that she was the daughter of John Thompson (no details of birth or death) and K. Hollinsheds genealogy is full of question marks and I prefer Andrew Thompsons version. It was therefore Caroline Thompson that married Tony Salvas, not Catherine.
This is what I believe. The woman that Hollinshed resorts to calling K was actually the sister of Elias Kettle and had married a Mr Beck. The Sorrento author states with confidence that Ks husband died on the Ticonderas ill-fated 1852 voyage and that his surname was Kettle. But the marriage details given are:
---(i.e. name)(?-1852 i.e. birth and death) married K in England c.1844; son Jack (alias Thompson.)
In effect an unknown man married an unknown woman and they had a seven year old son before the husband died in 1852. It is interesting that Peter Thompson had married Amelia the year after Ks husband had died. K was supposed to have married Mercer (year of birth and death and given name unknown) and had a daughter named Elizabeth who married George Hill. As Amelia was 37 when Peter died, it is probable that she married again and she would have enough fertile time left to have at least one more child. It is interesting that Andrew shows a Thompson-Hill connection too.
SOURCE: RYE CEMETERY RECORDS.
George Bates (d. ? ) married Elizabeth Stark Watson (b.4-11-1897; d.27-5-1997) mother of Jack (d. 16-8-1962 at 42). P.G.Bates (d.6-7-1963 at 68) was the husband of Elizabeth; as he was born about two years before the Watson girl, it is likely that P.G. was George.
I presume that Elizabeth was from the family of Sorrento fishermen and that the Bates family lived nearby circa world war 1.
Thomas V.Cain, known as Tom, (d.29-7-1971 at 87) married Marie Monica Hughes, known as Minnie. The Cains, particularly John, had land from Dromana and Purves Rd to Portsea one would expect his children and their cousins to know just about everyone west of Safety Beach.
Maryann Patterson, daughter of Ralph and Rachel Patterson, (d.4-3-1910 at 35) married a Kennedy. Maryann would have been born about 1875, not long after the family had arrived in Fingal. (Hollinshed says they arrived there in 1855 but he obviously has not seen early, 1864 onward, ratebooks where the parish had about 6 ratepayers, none called Patterson.) It is interesting that James Kennedy was leasing 150 acres in Fingal from the Crown in 1879, when Maryann would have been nearly ready to start school. James, born in 1835, had married Henry Tucks daughter, Harriet, and they had four sons. (LLL page 129.) It is not unreasonable to expect that the youngest was born at the same time as Maryann, when James was 40, and that the two became friends at the school on Andersons Barragunda.
There are only two allotments in Fingal containing 150 acres and one was already alienated by 1879, so James Patterson must have been on allotment 18, granted in 1896 to Christopher Cairns. This is indicated by 260 B1 and just south of it is allotment 24 of 317 ½ acres granted to Margaret Patterson
The Pattersons had probably selected this land 20 years earlier making the two families neighbours across the road from eachother (ie. The northern section of the Long Point Circuit in Greens Bush.)
Patricia Josephine Cain (d.23-3-1995) married Jon Patrick Mulligan (d 5-7-2000).
SOURCE: T ROVE (National Library of Australias digitized copies of newspapers.)
Ruby, daughter of John Brunning of Somerville, married John Edwards. (Argus 7-9-1923, page 14, column 5.) This appeared under MORNINGTON in COUNTRY NEWS. The Brunnings family, at St Kilda and Somerville, was famous for its nursery products and for many years produced a book about gardening which was widely regarded as the gardeners bible. John Brunning was responsible for the Soldiers Memorial block at Somerville, which the council plans to sell. Leila Shaw, who is a descendant of John Brunning, wrote The Way We Were, a wonderful history of the Somerville area. Leila and Shirley Walter of Frankston are responsible for my books The Mysterious Henry Gomm and The Female Drover: A History of Moorooduc.
These two books cover the area between Mornington and Jones Rd and detail the link between some of the families, which will not be given in my dictionary history. Several other pioneers of Tuerong are mentioned in my Tuerong which traces the occupants of the Tuerong Station, later called Tuerong Park, and an associated farm known as Moorellen.
I am awaiting confirmation that John Edwards was of the pioneering Red Hill family.If he was, this would not be the only marriage involving residents of Somerville and Red Hill. George Gomm, one of the Somerville Football Clubs Legends, married a Red Hill girl. While marriages usually took place between youngsters who had grown up as next door, or close, neighbours (except in or after wartime when men married girls they had met while based at camps far away or on Soldier Settlement farms), youngsters at these two towns would meet every year at the famous Somerville Fruitgrowers Show and later at a similar event at Red Hill.
Lime Land Leisure gives a few details of this pioneering Tootgarook family and unfortunately many are wrong. So rather than start at the very beginning of my findings, I will start at the end; a seventeen page Trueman genealogy supplied to me by Heather Spunner, the wife of James Truemans great grandson, Graeme Spunner.
The family moved around but within the county of Wiltshire. Jeffrey was born in All Cannings in 1719 and died there in 1791, likewise for his son, Thomas, (1743-1810). His son, Thomas, was born at the same village in 1774 but married at Collingbourne Ducis in 1799 and died there in 1841. His son, William, (1800-1870) entered and left the world in this new village. It is of interest that his wife was Jane Bennett, whom he married in 1822. I wonder if Jane was the aunt of Tom Bennett, a peninsula pioneer, and if Tom arranged for James Trueman to come to Tootgarook as a labourer indentured to James Purves. There is little evidence that James would have been able to pay for his passage.
The family seems to have been locked into poverty. Jeffrey was buried by the parish because he had insufficient funds. The same generosity was required for the burial of his son, Thomass wife, Elizabeth. William Trueman, Jane and their six children were the recipients of charity from the parish of Collingbourne Ducis in 1837, when money was raised to buy coal for the poor of the parish.
Their first child was James Trueman, born 16-6-1822 in Chute, Wiltshire, which seems to have been Janes home village as she died there in 1865. Some of his sisters were Ann, Elizabeth, Ellen and Sarah; I have included them here because no death details have been supplied and one of them could have been the grandmother of the mysterious Mrs Libbis.
James was described as an agricultural labourer in the 1841 Census. He married Jane Cook (b.1827 in Collingbourne Kingston, Wilts.) on 6-6-1850 in Collingbourne Ducis, and in 1851 they were living in Maddington, Wilts. Their first child, Annie, died after living just one month, all 38 days in Collingbourne Ducis. George Trueman was born on 2-3-1852 in Maddington and Henry was born in the same place on 30-9-1855.
Thus when James and Jane boarded the Sabrina at Southampton on 24-1-1857, they had two boys with them, but unfortunately young Henry was destined never to see their new home. He died near the Cape of Good Hope on 10-3-1857. Their passage was swift and they arrived at Hobsons Bay on 13-4-1857. George must have preferred the open road to farming; he was listed as a carter and James was not impressed with his work on the farm and overlooked him when dividing his grant. He died on 10-10-1932, apparently a bachelor. The other five children were:
SARAH b.1857 Pt Nepean, d.1936 Dromana. Married Charles Moat 1891.
ELLEN b. 1858 Tootgarook, d.1899 Parramatta. Married Henry John Cook.
THOMAS b.1863 Tootgarook, d.1925 Dromana. Married Matilda Elizabeth Geary 1899.
WILLIAM b.20-3-1866 Tootgarook, d.1949 in Wangaratta. Married Elsie George 1901.
JOHN b.1870 Tootgarook, d.1943 in Sorrento. Apparently a bachelor.
Thomas and Matilda had two daughters:
Gladys Emeline Nellie b. 1901, married Andrew Seator in 1932.
Bertha Matilda b. 1906 Pt Nepean, d.1985 Caulfield. Married Lester Brooksbank1941.
William and Elsie had four children:
Albert Edward b.1902 Tootgarook, d. 1975 Tootgarook
Married Florence Annie Dark 921.
William b.and d. at Tootgarook 1904.
Frederick James b. 16-1-1908 Pt Nepean, d. 3-11-1959 Sydney.
Married 1. Olive Runciman:child-Linda (McKay)
2. Zita Muriel Hunter at Auburn NSW in 1942.
Nellie May Trueman b. 4-7-1911, d. 27-4-1967 Melb.
Married Frank Ernest Spunner 18-7-1931 Sorrento.
on 2012-01-13 04:24:20
Itellya is researching local history on the Mornington Peninsula and is willing to help family historians with information about the area between Somerville and Blairgowrie. He has extensive information about Henry Gomm of Somerville, Joseph Porta (Victoria's first bellows manufacturer) and Captain Adams of Rosebud.