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Family of Thomas SHUTTLEWORTH and Pheobe JOHNSON - Ballarat

Journal by becdean

Thomas SHUTTLEWORTH b. 1886 in Ballarat East, Victoria to Thomas Richard SHUTTLEWORTH and Mary BROWN. He died in 1952 also in Ballarat.

Pheobe SHUTTLEWORTH (nee JOHNSON) b. 12 Feb 1880 d. 2 Jan 1942 in Carlton and is buried at Ballarat Cemetary as Pheobe SHUTTLEWORTH. Daughter of George JOHNSON and Drusilla JOHNSON (nee MARTIN)

Thomas and Pheobe married in 1915 in Ballarat

Phoebe and Thomas had to our families knowledge 6 children in total - however there were two mysteries surrounding their family

Firstly one of the children: Norman Leslie JOHNSON b. 12 Feb 1920 was mothered by their daughter Bessie May JOHNSON at the age of 17 and then raised by Thomas and Pheobe as their own.

Secondly all the children had the surname JOHNSON. George was the only one with the surname SHUTTLEWORTH. We are still researching if the children with the surname JOHNSON are Thomas's or somebody elses. The children are listed below

1) 1889 - unamed baby girl in Castelmaine, Victoria - mother listed as Phoebe and father unknown - child did not survive

2) Bertha Jemima JOHNSON (1901-1901) born in Ballarat East - mother listed as Phoebe and Father Unknown - died at age 4 months

3) Bessie May JOHNSON (1903- )- born in Ballarat East - mother listed as Phoebe and father UNKNOWN.
Bessie mothered three children all with father unknown
i) Norman Leslie JOHNSON (1920-1968);
ii)Alfred JOHNSON (1920-1920)
iii)Edward Alfred JOHNSON (1920-??) - We are still trying to find out what happened to Edward.
Bessie also dissappeared sometime after 1924. Her brother Alfred (below) and his descendants have been trying to find her ever since

4)Alfred James JOHNSON (1907-1982) - buried at Ballarat Cemetry. Alfred Married Eileen Mary TELFORD (1910-1986)daughter of James Jim TELFORD (1884-1922) and Ruth YOUNG (1890- )
Alfred and Eileen had three sons
i)Max JOHNSON (1931- )
ii) Norman "Jim" JOHNSON (1934- )
iii) Jeffrey William JOHNSON (1937- )

5)George SHUTTLEWORTH (1914-1996)in Ballarat. Married Dorothy HARRIET (1919-1996) Children:
i) George SHUTTLEWORTH
ii) Norman SHUTTLEWORTH

Thank you to family tree members Roy and Jan for their generous inputs
Any corrections or further details warmly welcomed
Other journals with downlines for Alfred James JOHNSON's children and grandchildren will be added as soon as time permits :)

Regards Rebecca Dean (Nee Johnson)

Surnames: HARRIET JOHNSON MARTIN SHUTTLEWORTH TELFORD
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on 2011-07-03 21:40:39

becdean has been a Family Tree Circles member since Jun 2011. is researching the following names: JOHNSON, SHUTTLEWORTH, MARTIN.

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by janilye on 2011-07-03 21:47:50

This is good. Now we have to find the correct parents for Thomas 1886-1952

by eilsjo on 2011-07-03 21:59:29

Hi, just to update details of George Shuttleworth, He was born on 11/11/1913 and died on 14/2/1996. Aged 82 years. His wife was Dorothy Harriet May, and they had five sons.
George Alexander Shuttleworth b. 27/6/1938
Robert Winston Shuttleworth b. 20/9/1943
Norman William Shuttleworth b. 2/11/1945
Bruce Charles Shuttleworth b. 12/12/1949 D. 16/12/1985 age 36 yrs
Gary John Shuttleworth b. 24/8/1953

regards
Eileen Shuttleworth (Robert's wife)

by becdean on 2011-07-03 22:35:50

Thanks Jan - I have them listed as Thomas Richmond SHUTTLEWORTH and Mary BROWN but not confirmed :/
Only detail i can confirm is that Thomas SHUTTLEWORTH (that married Pheobe) had a brother John James Brown SHUTTLEWORTH that married Pheobe's sister Rose JOHNSON in Ballarat.
Thank you Eileen I will add that to my research - Your husband and my Grandfather are distant cousins

by janilye on 2011-07-03 23:52:28

I found another Thomas SHUTTLEWORTH (like we need one) this one is the son of John Clifford Shuttleworth and Emily VAUGHAN born 1878
at ' El Mo Victoria' that's what it says on the birth index.

by becdean on 2011-07-04 00:11:58

Thanks Jan - There are so many isn't there.. May tie in somewhere..

by becdean on 2011-07-15 00:33:11

I've just found in the burial records, buried with Drusilla a Harold JOHNSON burial date 12/07/1902 aged 6 weeks.
Could this be another one of Phoebe's children??

by janilye on 2011-07-15 00:39:21

What does it say on the headstone I sent you. Does it mention Harold. I remember William was with her. Perhaps when the stone was carved they just didn't include the infant. Or maybe there was a footstone I didn't see. I can't find the photo now!

by becdean on 2011-07-15 00:50:36

Your right Jan the tombstone says William and Druzilla no inscription for anyone else - no footstone unfortunately

I stumbled across the internment record and it lists:

Bertha JOHNSON 1901 aged 4 months
Druzilla JOHNSON 1923 aged 73
William JOHNSON 1924 aged 32
Harold JOHNSON 1902 aged 6 weeks
What do you think?

by janilye on 2011-07-15 00:55:38

I found it. Maybe the children who commissioned the headstone didn't know about Harold. It says " Our Dear Mother" and "Our Dear Brother"
It's more likely to be Drusilla's infant.

by becdean on 2011-07-15 00:56:52

oh just to add - Bertha was Phoebe's daughter hence why i have made the assumption that Harold may be hers too??

by janilye on 2011-07-15 01:05:06

Your family's certainly full of surprises. born a year after Bertha who isn't on the headstone either.In 1924 I doubt the children knew when they added the headstone or had their reasons for not adding the infants.

by janilye on 2011-07-15 01:10:04

Phoebe certainly rolled them out. She must have been St.Joey's best customer

by janilye on 2011-07-15 01:24:17

It's Phyllis's

Name: Harold Johnson
Death Place: Ballarat, Victoria
Mother's name: Phyllis Johnson
Registration Year: 1902
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 8173

by janilye on 2011-07-15 01:32:08

Well there's proof Phyllistine called herself Phyllis.
I found this too, by the way.

Name: Phyllistine Johnson
Spouse Name: Saml Matthews
Marriage Place: Victoria
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Year: 1909
Registration Number: 4741

by janilye on 2011-07-15 01:41:45

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Ruby Matthews
Name: Ruby Matthews
Death Place: Ballarat, Victoria
Father's name: Matthews Saml
Mother's name: Phyllistine Johnson
Registration Year: 1916
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 4431

by janilye on 2011-07-15 02:11:33

In 1914 Phyllistine and Samuel Matthews were living at 9 Oliver St East Ballaarat. Samuel was a miner.
in 1924 at the same address, 9 Oliver St, they are joined by a Henry Mathews, collarmaker- spelling his surname with 1 T. If he were a son he would have had to be born in 1903. So maybe Samuel's relative.
She's still at that same address in 1942 but I don't see Samuel.

by janilye on 2011-07-15 02:19:56

I've printed off a page from the 1949 Electoral Roll there are scribblings beside her name I can't quite make out. She died 31-10-something - either 49 or 50 I'm emailing it.

by tonkin on 2011-07-15 04:12:13

If your looking for Phyllistine's death she died in Ballarat in 1949, aged 66 years.

by becdean on 2011-07-15 05:40:58

Thank you guys - WOW!!! I log of for a few hours and come back and look what you've found :) Thank you!! I was thinking the same thing about Phoebe although Harold's father was also unknown - how scandalous! Yes what a family...
So this gives me:
Phyllistine (1883-1949) m. Samuel Matthews in 1909
Children
i) Harold (1902-1902) (Father unknown)
ii)Gwendoline Marcella Matthews (1911-1912)
iii) Ruby Matthews (1916-1916)
iv) Phyllistine Matthews (1917- )

by janilye on 2011-07-15 05:49:47

I think! and this is only going by the rolls, I haven't checked yet. That Samuel Matthews' father was also Samuel Matthews the town inspector, living in Humphray St. Have a look at the 1914 Census I sent you. He's with an Emma and a Margaret. (long shot)

by becdean on 2011-07-15 06:57:07

I noticed that too Jan :) I have put a ?as them being his parents in my little book ;) Thank you

by renee1 on 2014-02-04 22:08:51

my grandfathers name was George William shuttleworth Johnson. Lived in pa. I wonder if there is any connection to this family line. He lived in pennsylvannia. I thought he was an only child. I was told his father was jonathan Johnson and his mother name I believed to of been mary

by renee1 on 2014-02-04 22:17:26

sorry forgot to mention he was born approximately 1895? Parents were English and Irish.

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