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family starts at souths from tingha/inverell nsw australia

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please help me trace my family tree,....i was born a proctor now married under compton but ntscorp have helped me research my family as far back as william south and susan hill they had a daughter her name was fanny south known to my mum as great granny south.can you please help me find relitives out there as id love to have a family reunion . Apparently she was apart of the kamilaroi tribe

Surnames: hayden payne and hill proctor south ramage
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on 2013-09-09 22:45:17

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by janilye on 2013-09-12 08:27:44

Benjamin Barland and Mary Ann Millard had a son called William 1817-1881, but I don't think it is your William. Their william married Margaret Burns in Richmond in 1840 lived in Windsor St., Richmond and died on 21 October 1881 at Gunyerwarildi near Warialda. I don't think they would name 2 boys William.
Anyway here's a bit about them;
Benjamin Barland after arriving in New South Wales changed his name to South. The son of George Barland and wife Isobel, born about 1765 in London. I don't know why he changed his name. Perhaps to hide his convict past. Benjamin was a convict sentenced at the Old Bailey for assaulting and robbing Joseph Winckworth 18 April 1887. He received 7 years transportation and arrived with the 3rd Fleet on the Admiral Barrington. He first married Sarah Whiley at St. John's Parramatta and went to live at Richmond Hill. Sarah Whiley was a convict who arrived on the 'William Pitt' in 1805 from Newgate Prison after being sentenced to life in 1804 I don't know what happened to Sarah. In 1815 at Richmond he married Mary Ann Millard, she had been transported on the 'Speedy' when she was 16. on arrival she had been assigned to Benjamin. Mary died at Richmond on 16 July 1835. I know very little about this family but I do know quite a bit about Windsor and Richmond in New South Wales and recognise Benjamin South as being one of the settlers to address Lachlan Macquarie.
Benjamin South died on Monday the 6 June 1836 at Richmond.

This is your William's Obituary:
Clarence and Richmond Examiner, Saturday 13 January 1906
The death is announced of Mr. William South, of Gilgai, near Inverell, aged 83 years. The late Mr. South was born at Windsor in the year 1823, and went to New England district with Messrs. Hall Bros. who took up Stoney Ratter Station, and in whose employ he remained for seven years as stockman. While there he met and conversed with Dr. Leichhardt, at Mount Mitchell Station, where he stayed a few days, and would have had a chance of accompanying the explorer on his last and Ill-fated journey had it not been for the fact that the party was made up. Mr. South also witnessed the passing through New England of the first mob of cattle that was supposed to have crossed the McIntyre River. In later years he took a prominent part in tin mining. During the long years Mr.South lived in the land of his birth he never travelled by or saw a railway train, his principal manner of tra- velling being either on horseback or walking.
The following information from 'Holding its own. The Inverall District since 1910,' by Elizabeth Widemann:-

[Susan was a 1/2 cast Aboriginal Woman affectionately known as "Granny South" It is said that she was raised in the Perfrement Home at Cope's Creek Station during the 1860's. It was rare for a white man to marry an Aboriginal woman but William South did when he married Susan. They had nine children. Susan built up a good reputation as a midwife in the mining fields, successfully delivering hundred's of babies in the Ponds and Stannifer districts. She claimed never to have lost a mother, athough sometimes babies died. She is said to have been a "character" who smoked a corn cob pipe. She never lived with her own people, but the 8 ha block on which she lived at South's Gully, at the Ponds, was proclaimed as a reserve in 1893, though it appears to have been revoked in the same year. She continued to live in the same area, independently of other Aboriginal people, till her death in 1920 at the age of 78.]
DEATH Reg. NSW. 14968/1920 SOUTH SUSANNA 78 YRS GUYRA TINGHA
DEATH Reg. NSW 1619/1906 SOUTH WILLIAM 83 YRS INVERELL INVERELL
You certainly have your work cut out for you Tracy, it's difficult to trace family when there are so few documents.
Hope some relatives get in touch, bringing lots of info to your big family reunion.

by janilye on 2013-09-12 08:47:21
by tracycompton on 2013-09-13 21:20:15

Thank you so so very much my dear you have help me out a hell of alot and for that I thank you. I do have a very large family and the secrets held are now coming undone once again thank you from the bottom of my heart xx

by janilye on 2013-09-14 08:21:59

You're welcome. I'm happy to help.
Daily Observer, Tamworth, NSW. Wednesday 7 July 1920
OBITUARY

Another old identity of Tingha in the person of Mrs. Wm. South (more commonly known as "Granny" South), passed away at her home, seven miles from Tingha, on Wednesday night last.
The deceased, who was 77 years of age, had been a resident of the Tingha district for over 60 years, and was well-known and highly respected.
She had been confined to her room for the past five weeks. She leaves a family of seven grown up children. The remains were buried in Inverell on Thursday.

by tracycompton on 2013-09-14 19:02:33

Thank you again :)

by janilye on 2013-09-18 06:32:23

This might help you out;

2. Fanny South b: 25 January 1866, at Wellingrove, NSW. and died on the 18 December 1957 at Tingha where she had lived all her life. In 1912 she married John Daniel Hayden, the son of Henry James Hayden 1847-1908 and Hannah Payne 1842-1902. John Daniel was born in Mudgee on the 28 June 1866 and died at Tingha on the 13 June 1953.
These are their children:-
Elsie 1890 1892
Emily Ivy 1893 - 1968 m. Francis William SINGLE
Edward John 1895 1981 (ANZAC Service No. 1293 twice wounded) m. Winifred Mary BARLEY 1896-1985
Henry Herbert 1897-1973
Honora 1900 - 1966 m. William Charles O'RILEY
David Clyde 1903 1993 m. Gertrude E WHACKETT
Robert Theo Victor 1906 1985 m: Dorothy Blanche RAMAGE 1920-1985
Nita May 1909 xxxx m. Lawrence John BURDEKIN 1902-1962
All children apart from Elsie (died as an infant), were registered at birth as SOUTH and registered as HAYDEN after Fanny and John married

by tracycompton on 2013-09-18 13:14:24

That sounds like them Dorothy is my mothers grand mother so thank you very much for this you are truly wonderful

by Sonoflofty on 2013-10-17 13:57:10

I, Too Am A Direct Descendant Of William South And Susan Hill. My Grandparents Were George And Elizabeth South. Would Be Great To Chat With You..

by tracycompton on 2013-10-17 16:59:43

Hello, thank you for replying. Always interested in finding out who my relatives are. And I too am up for a chat anytime :)

by tracycompton on 2013-10-17 17:01:29

What is your real name?

by Sonoflofty on 2013-10-18 06:47:14

My name is Colin, The Son Of Edward Vivian, The Son Of George And Elizageth South. My Mobile Number Is 0412521001 .l Live In The Gold Coast Of Qld.
George Is A Son Of Susan And William.
It Will Be Good To Hear From You
Regards, Colin.

by tracycompton on 2013-12-29 08:08:17

Hi Colin sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you I live in the Redlands it would be lovely to catch up over coffee or something?.

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