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Journal by lindsidelass

Too often our Journals begin with questions of the community members. Rarely do we see any real success stories. To those many fellow searchers out there I want to say thanks for helping me in my searchs and I hope I have been helpful in yours. I would urge everyone to get into message boards and mailing lists wherever they are, not just this one. Through an e-mailing list I am on I found out that last weekend Ancestry.com(to which I do not subscribe)was having a "free" weekend on immigration information and I can proudly say: I FOUND WHAT I NEEDED! Castle Garden records and Ellis Island records did not help me out because "my people" immigrated in a little timeline hole. Because of the e-list information I plugged into Ancestry and I found them. I wanted everyone to know. I knew you all would smile and be happy for me, you all understand those magic moments of success.

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on 2011-09-08 11:55:37

lindsidelass has been a Family Tree Circles member since Jan 2011. is researching the following names: POST, FRASER, PALLISER and 2 other(s).

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by Scott_J on 2011-09-08 14:05:01

Congrats lindsidelass!

I'm curious, what part of ancestry did you find your information in that wasn't available elsewhere?

They certainly get a bad rap for all their members and their propensity to accept anything as fact into their trees. But Ancestry does have a wealth of indexed documents. I've found many dozens of my ancestors in Ancestry in census records, military documents, etc.

I, for one, am smiling for you.

by rallyreg on 2011-09-09 18:08:46

I had the same thing with my Grandmother Esther Hearsey. There was no sign of her on the Ellis Island site, but Findmypast had her leaving Liverpool and Ancestry had her arriving in Boston in 1904. Then the trail died till her marriage to my Grandfather abck in the UK in 1918.

I knew she was supposed to have married and had a child in the USA, but could find no record of her till a couple of weeks ago when Familysearch launched their new updated site and then found the marriage, husbands death and childs birth with copies of the original records.
This has now launched a mine field with the family she married into, as her husbands parents took charge of the child and later told her that the child had died, but thanks to the US 1920 census I discovered that they had given the child to one of her husbands sisters to bring up as her own, and one of their descendants insisted that hew was the sisters child till I produced a copy of the original birth record that was on Familysearch.

By the way Scott, in the UK, you can only see the Ancestry Imigration records to countries outside the UK, if you are a member of Ancestry World which is very expensive, but last week Ancestry.com allowed free views of this section

by Bonzadel on 2011-09-09 19:56:35

well done !! I envy tou, I tried Ancewstry but I find them very hard to peruse and there's always a catch !! have to go further at great expense which I can't afford.

by lindsidelass on 2011-09-09 20:56:49

Scott-Ancestry.com had their "freebie" weekend on immigration and naturalization. I had previously looked at the NY point of entry sites and a couple of sites that dealt with ship's names. Do not recall exactly which sites as I don't keep records on sites that are not helpful. Enjoy Family Tree Circles and am amazed at the number of different families out there and the number of us who want to know more. What an adventure!

by MArman on 2011-09-12 17:10:12

I am a member of Ancestry.com and use it regularly. I use it for the extensive collection of scanned historical records, which is always growing. It saves me a lot of travel time and money, as well as time and money I would spend sending away for historical documents. I started by using the "freebie" weeks, but I think the monthly rate is fair. Most of my family has been in American for many generations, so I have not yet purchased the World membership.

My favorite records on Ancestry are:
US Census records
Social security death records (some give parents' names)
Military records
US Government land grants

The county and state marriage records are helpful, but some of my ancestors marriages were done by congregational pastors on the frontiers and were not officially recorded, so I often don't find a marriage record.

The ancestry trees posted by members are not totally reliable, but they are extremely useful for clues. Several suggestions:
Check to see how many sources the member has used for their information.
Check the information carefully, asking some fairly obvious questions, such as:
Were the listed wives and husbands alive at the same time?
Were the listed offspring born during the mother's childbearing years (age 14-45 or so)?
You'll think of more questions. For example, if a family has a long list of children with one in the middle born in a different state, that is a clue to check the information carefully. Check family tree information against census or other historical documents.

I am in the process of making a timeline for each family group. I start with:
Birth date of husband
Birth dates of wives dates
Census information
Military information

Now, I fit in the births & birthplaces I have for the children into the chronology. Does it make sense? Do I have a child with the wrong wife?

I use the birth dates of children to make a "guesstimate" wedding date when I don't have a marriage record, or to estimate when the family moved to a new place.

A gap of more than two years between children's birth dates can sometimes indicate the death of a child or the death of a spouse and a new marriage. Many women died when a child was born or soon after.

I distrust the information in the so-called "historical records" labeled American Genealogical-Biographical Index (AGBI) Record and Family Data Collection - Individual Records. These are bits of information from old-time published genealogies or LDS church genealogies. However, they, like the family tree information, are good for clues.

Finally, I take everything with a grain of salt. Professional historians "triangulate" facts, which is to say, they look for three independent sources that agree on a piece of information. We don't always have three independent sources for family history, so we do the best we can.

I do find the Ancestry forums hard to use, but searching their records is relatively easy.

Martha

by lindsidelass on 2011-09-15 15:58:46

Martha-Thank you for your input. I have just about decided that I need to get into Ancestry's vault of treasures and not depend on the freebie weekends. I have hinted that Christmas is coming to my family. I love the way you have outlined your search guidelines. They are so much better organized than my own. I have subscribed to the "sink or swim" method of searching so am usually finding something on someone, just not as BIG a find as the ship that brought my Frasers to the USA. I can't understand folks that zero in on one family member for years to the exculsion of all the cousins, aunts and uncles. I would get so disheartened. so quickly. I just discovered the SSDI and have patiently been going through it for family who have died during my lifetime and reaping a wealth of information. The genealogical family out there are truly great for their help and support and internet postings. May all your searches be fruitful.

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