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They are related to the Lawrence Family by married,Charles Frederich Gregories married Henrietta Lawrence born 16 Oct 1837-died 14 march 1904, daugther of George Lawrence of Moreton Court,Hereford.Her brother was Arthur Lawrence who worked with Charles F Gregories the brother inlaw.
But I am still trying to find out is how they are related to my family lawrence? from Carterton.
Cant wait to hear back from anyone who may have info on this link.
Cheers

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on 2011-03-12 00:38:09

Keitha has been a Family Tree Circles member since Nov 2008. is researching the following names: LAWRENCE, GREGORIESFROMSCOTLAND, WALTERYEWEN and 8 other(s).

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by edmondsallan on 2011-03-12 14:33:39

I think you need to retrace the Lawrence family ancestory tree. Somehow -Sometime -Somewhere they must have connected . To find the connection is the problem - To assist you in this Direction I suggest the following --> tribalpages.com --> tibaltrees --> family name --Arthur Lawrence - -> family tree __> " Lawerence of Provost,Ab " This familytree has ( 346 ) free viewing of that name .an is from
1150 -- 2002. If you click on- Last names -you will see the following in detail -Life span - names - marriages , fathers- mothers - full names .dates - This may assist you to find that connection . Their are other ways , however I think this -MAy Be the first way to go - Regards

by ngairedith on 2011-03-12 19:29:37

Hello Keitha,

On October 20 1859, Charles Frederick GREGORIE married Henrietta Amy LAWRENCE, (born 16 Oct 1837 - died 14 Mar 1904), third daughter of George Lawrence of Moreton Court, Hereford.
She was said to have been a woman of great character and charm.
After the generals retirement, they lived at Lymington, Hampshire.

Charles and Henrietta Gregorie had ten children:

David George (1860-1886)
Frederick Macaulay Gregorie (1861-1945) - emigrated to New Zealand, see below
Charles Gregorie (1862-1951) - Charles joined his brother Fred in New Zealand and became a mining engineer with his uncle Arthur Lawrence
Eleanor St Barbe (1865-1869)
Edith Mary St Barbe (1866-1911)
Mary St Barbe (1868-1874)
Jessie Christian (no dates known)
Catherine Henrietta (1874 - )
Hugh Gilbert (1878-1928)
Margaret Augusta (b.& d. 1883)
- (the other children not highlighted can be seen at the link below)

Of these, only Frederick Macaulay, Charles, Catherine Henrietta and Hugh Gilbert married and had issue.
Edith Mary St Barbe took her own life by jumping from a railway overbridge in 1911.
Jessie Christian died unmarried at Alassio, Italy, about 1956.


Frederick Macaulay Gregorie (1861-1945)
Frederick Macaulay Gregorie was born on August 27, 1861. He was educated at the Thames Marine Officers Training Ship at Chatham, but did not enter the merchant navy.

His father thought him unsuited to the army because of his severe stammer. He refused to consider the Church as a career and emigrated to New Zealand in 1881. His brother Charles joined him the following year, but they had a disagreement and Charles returned to England. Fred worked at Tongoio Station in Hawkes Bay to gain experience before buying his own property at Oporae.

He married Edith DINIDDIE (1873-1954), daughter of newspaper proprietor Peter Forrest Dinwiddie, at Napier in 1897
The Gregories farmed at Oporae in the Dannevirke District until 1907 when they retired to Havelock North

In 1914, they moved to Gorge End, a farm near Pahiatua and in 1940 they retired for the second time, to Palmerston North.
Fred Gregorie died at Palmerston North on August 26 1945
Edith died in Masterton on May 3 1954.

Fred and Edith Gregorie had three children:

twins:
David George Gregorie and Catherine Mary (born 13 Mar 1898)
Frederick Charles Gregorie (1901-1991
... Catherine Mary Gregorie, only daughter of Fred and Edith Gregorie, and her twin brother David George Gregorie, were born at Napier on March 13, 1898. Both children were educated at their home at Oporae until they were nine, when David went to Heretaunga School and Mary went to Woodford House, in Havelock North. Mary left school to live with her parents at Gorge End, Pahiatua, during the First World War. After the war she went to live in Wellington and married Donald KINNELL, an Englishman who was visiting his brothers in New Zealand, on April 14, 1924. Donald and Mary Kinnell lived at Walton-on-Thames, England, where their only daughter, Jean Mary (Jenny), was born on January 12, 1925. In 1960 she went to live in Australia, first at Terrigal, NSW and then at Murwillumbah, NSW. In 1953 she went to New Zealand to look after her mother until her death in 1954, when she returned to Australia. Mary died in 1990, aged 102.
... Frederick Charles (Eric) Gregorie, third child of Fred and Edith Gregorie, was born at Napier on November 18, 1901. He was educated at Heretaunga School, Havelock North, and Nelson College. He left school in 1917 and returned to the family farm at Gorge End, Pahiatua, to help his father while David was training for the Royal Air Force. When David returned to New Zealand in 1919, Eric went to work at Arapawanui, the Hawkes Bay farm founded by his maternal great-grandfather, John McKINNON, in the 1860s, to gain experience. David opened his nursery business in the mid-1920s and Eric returned to Gorge End to work with his father until 1940, when he enlisted in the New Zealand Army for the duration of the Second World War. He served in a signal battalion in Fiji and the Solomon Islands.
On August 21, 1941, Eric married Barbara Mary Martin FRENCH (born 22 March 1909 - died 1996), daughter of Arthur Martin French and Elsa Mary PRICE of London.
He died at Taupo on July 18, 1992.
Barbara Gregorie died at Taupo in 1996.
Eric and Barbara Gregorie had two children, Martin Charles (1946 - ) and Elizabeth Jane (1949 - ).


That information was taken form the site: The Gregories
There is a huge amount of information on there for you to read and you will find how the Gregories lived in Pahiatua & Masterton so further research is going to find which one of them 'drifted' the 15km to Carterton. I found it a rather exciting read as it would make connections with our other journals in the search for your family. There are also many recent descendants mentioned (like HENNEBRYs) born in Pahiatua, and children born in the 1960 and 1980 who attended schools in the Waikato, Matamata & Te Awamutu. Hawkes Bay, Heretaunga & Havelock North. Manawatu, Palmerston North & the Wairarapa like St Matthew' in Masterton

A geat journal that you will have to read and reread to digest
- have fun, get back to me with any questions

kind regards

by ngairedith on 2011-03-13 06:47:12

to try and keep all the journals together regarding this family of COE, GREGORIE & LAWRENCE of the Wairarapa and Manawatu and their many branches:

COE family from Pahiatua

COE family from Wairarapa

Emma COE + James Edward LAWRENCE

Arthur Lawrence (of Pahiatua, uncle of Charles Gregorie in above journal)

by Keitha on 2011-03-13 14:37:12

Hi,I feel its a good idea to keep to keep all journals togegether as i keep comming and re reading what has been said, its nice to be able to do that , at time i miss something or didnt understand something.
Like now where i keep reading about The Gregories to see where they
fit in but hay I will find how it may take longer but i will get there.
Anyway thanks.
Cheers

by Keitha on 2011-03-16 22:05:12

Hi,
yESTURDAY I WENT TO THE WAIRARAPA ARCHIVE I FOUND ALOT ABOUT MY FAMILY.
I DONT THINK THAT GREGORIE,S AND THAT LAWRENCE ARE RELATED THEY ARE FROM WALES AND WE ARE FROM SAINT ANDREW, HOLBORN, LONDON.
IF YOU GO TO familysearch.org theres a whole list of the Lawrence family as i have got theprint out as well as a news paper clip on
William Lawrence. But at the end of day I still no better off as i still dont know where Edward James is or anything about him only
he married Emma Coe (Lawrence)
Cheers

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