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Grier/Greer/luddington Family

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I am doing research on John Grier son of William b ab 1814 & Eliza Jane (McBeath)b ab 1862,m 1888 to Eliza Ann Luddington (ex New York) and emigrated to New Zealand 1889/1890.
John and wife Eliza came to New Zealand with John's father William from Donegal Ireland.
John's two sisters one called (Annie) also came to New Zealand before April 1895 together but I am having a great deal of trouble finding who the other sister was and what year they both came out to New Zealand and what ship they came over on.
I have found out quite a lot on Annie Grier which I am more than happy to pass on.When John,Eliza and William lived in Ireland their surname was spelt GRIER but when they registered with the shipping company it was entered as GREER which they kept when they came to live in NZ.
Hope someone can help me.

Cheryl (NZ)

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on 2013-04-30 07:36:29

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by ngairedith on 2013-04-30 07:50:10

hello brandy,

just checking if you are sure Eliza travelled with them?

by ngairedith on 2013-04-30 07:57:38

where did they settle brandy?

by brandy3434 on 2013-04-30 08:18:48

Hi ngairedith, I have the shipping list showing that John,Eliza and John's father William came over together but the sisters where not on the shipping list.I was also told that John and Eliza first child William was born in Ireland and came over as a wee baby but he wasn't shown on the shipping list but because of his age he may not have been shown.Not sure why baby William wasn't shown.
They settled in Romahapa,Otago.NZ

Cheryl

by ngairedith on 2013-04-30 08:22:23

thanks Cheryl,
which ship was it?

by brandy3434 on 2013-04-30 08:32:01

Hi ngairedith.They came out on the TONGARIRO SHIP in 1890.Ireland to Wellington.
Are you also connected to this family.
Cheryl

by ngairedith on 2013-04-30 08:36:27

no, I'm not connected, just interested to see if we can find the other sister, so the more info I have to work with the quicker and easier it will be

by brandy3434 on 2013-04-30 08:49:48

It would be great for some help.I have only been doing this for 2yrs so I am still learning what sites to go to.I was told her name was Margaret but couldn't find any marriage/death.
I sent for Annie's marriage certificate 26th April 1895 thinking that the witness may be her sister.It showed a Marion Thompson but that didn't help.It could be that I wasn't looking in the right place.
The info I was sent from a relative said"
William (father) was survived by daughters aged 41 & 38 and a son (John) aged 36.
I (relative) would like to trace the 2 daughters of the William Grier.I 'suspect' that they also migrated to new Zealand,possibly at the same time as John or another ship but together.
Please let me know if you still need more info
Thanks
Cheryl

by ngairedith on 2013-04-30 09:00:05

well, the only passenger list of the Steamer Tongariro (9 Sep 1890 via Hobart) that I can find has all the passengers, 105 to New Zealand, except the 23 steerage :)
But that is not important now. Were they Farmers?

by ngairedith on 2013-04-30 09:04:54

William didn't have the Gore Hotel did he? (a William Greer did) that would make for interesting research

by ngairedith on 2013-04-30 09:15:57

John Greer was born in Ireland about 1862
- he died in Dunedin 13 Jan 1934 aged 71

his wife Elizabeth was born about 1875 in New York
- she died in Dunedin 16 October 1944 aged 69
they are buried together Plot 75, Block 116 at Andersons Bay cemetery

BUT, Elizabeth's surname was Graham at burial so, either she remarried or I have the wrong ones

by brandy3434 on 2013-04-30 09:15:59

John's father was an elderly man (75yrs) when he came to NZ and John's son William was a gardener when he died (53yrs).
That is the correct Steamer but I carn't find how they went from Wellington to Romahapa.I think they must have gone on another ship heading for Port Chalmers.I am not good at finding Shipping Lists.Plus what ship did the girls get on to come to NZ?

by brandy3434 on 2013-04-30 09:22:52

Hi,No you have the correct family.Eliza remarried after John died but was buried with John when she died.Eliza and John had 14 childred and they all survived.My Nana was one of the 14 children.
I found 1880 censors for New York showing Eliza Luddington and she was boarding with a family so I'm not sure what happened to Eliza's parents Annie and Thomas Luddington as they seem to vanish of the face of the earth.

by ngairedith on 2013-04-30 09:29:09

ok, I have his son, William Greer, born in Ireland about 1890, coming to NZ about 1890, being a Gardener, married Susan SUTHERLAND in 1920, living at 11 Bay View Road, Dunedin, died 27 April 1943 aged 53
Susan was born in NZ in 1899 and died in Balclutha 20 Dec 1960 aged 69
- they are buried together Plot 126, Block 147 at Andersons Bay cemetery

this seems like the long way round to get to the sisters (and it is), but just building up a family picture. This extra info may also be recognised by someone who KNOWS who they were and they will be able to help. Because all this info goes straight to google, the more you add here the more can be found by anyone doing a google search

we will eventually get to the sisters and their ship

by brandy3434 on 2013-04-30 09:44:14

Ok will go through all my info that I have found and will put it all together tomorrow.I have already found the same info that you have also found but least I know I am on the right track.I have found a lot to do with John's sister Annie like her marriage,childred and who they married. Thank you for your help tonight.Hope to keep in touch with you.

by ngairedith on 2013-04-30 10:15:33

Annie married William CHAPMAN & they are also buried Dunedin

then I found this looking for the Grier family

by brandy3434 on 2013-05-01 22:56:15

Hi ngairedith.I clicked on to "looking for the Grier family" and Graham is my cousion who got me started looking into the Greer family.
Graham found quite a lot of family information and I have found most from when they arrived in NZ and all the marriages but we are still stuck on;
Who is Annie's and John's other sister
What ship and year did Annie/sister come to New Zealand

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