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HARE. Walter Maldon and Frances Jane nee Clap, but family said to me its Clapcott, they may be wrong!

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My friend in Gisborne has asked for help, she has no computer, her ancestor was Walter Maldon HARE, and Frances Jane Clapcott, but could be Clapp. I have been doing some searching today, and found they are buried at Bolton St. Wellington.NZ.. if anyone is connected would they mind contacting me please, then can pass the message on to her.. thank you. I would love to know if they were originally from UK. as he was supposed to have come to NZ for Government Printing to Invercargill.. did they have a child in Australia? a Son...

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on 2011-09-28 18:12:00

neich has been a Family Tree Circles member since Sep 2009. is researching the following names: PENTONY, PENTONYLIVERPOOLDUBLINNOR, LINDOP and 1 other(s).

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by tonkin on 2011-09-29 14:03:38

Walter Maldon HARE and Frances Jane CLAPP were married in Victoria in 1863. Frances was recorded as CLAPP, and not CLAPCOTT.

I have been through the birth records but unable to locate any children for Walter and Frances in Australia.

From the New Zealand death records it looks like Walter died in 1906, aged 64 years, and Frances died in 1935, aged 91 years.

There was also another Walter Maldon HARE died in New Zealand in 1900, aged 81 years. Could this be Walter's father?

Hope this will be of some help.

by neich on 2011-09-29 17:46:29

thank you, will search further for the birth of the son, was in contact only last night with Bolton Street Cemetery in Wellington, they have them buried there, and sent the necessary photographs and details up on email, wonderful! Would the couple have come from UK at all please, as the family think the Frances Jane Clapp was French originally.. have to see if I can get the marriage certificate next... have a very excited friend this morning when I told her what I found yesterday, wish she was on computer, she tried it, but said, no you have one and can help me! It appears at the Bolton St. Cemetery there are some children buried as well.. sad...

by ngairedith on 2011-09-29 18:36:28

Hi neich,
I am in the process of writing a journal on him and will let you know as soon it is finished
I can tell you that he was born in London, married in Ballarat, Australia had at least 6 children and was a printer and paper-ruler with Shaw & Harnett in Invercargill for a time and then with the New Zealand Government Printing Office. He was also a very active memner of the Wellington Navals

He is buried with William Thomas Maldon Hare (1872-1890)
Henry ALbert Watson Hare (1867-1895)
and his wife Frances Jane (1844-1935)

by neich on 2011-09-30 04:27:38

have a photograph of the grave at Bolton Street, came on email this morning! and found some graves at Clareville for Hare, so listed them. Friend said, she can remember someone in the family saying he was taken to the grave on a gun carriage, I said possible as in the Wellington Navals... I have found quite a bit on papers past today as well..thank goodness for that site! Wonder which part of London! Heard tonight some of the family lived at Buckley St. Isaid that is Melrose area of Wellington, looks down on the airport! thanks.

by ngairedith on 2011-10-01 13:54:03

by neich on 2011-10-01 17:45:34

Am delighted so many many thanks,will be ringing Sue up in a moment, she will be thrilled! I spoke to a local in Carterton today, as given me more leads on the name of Hare so will follow them up and let you know... am sure this Walter Maldon is a relative.. as Maldon is an unusual name, must have been a mothers maiden name, or from Maldon in Essex!!! Will get back to you, thanks a million...

by neich on 2011-10-01 17:47:42

Pirinoa, I have the book, so will check the name out thanks, and actually driving there tomorrow on way to Lake Ferry for lunch... may call in!!!

by ngairedith on 2011-10-01 18:52:33

interesting note:

... the ashes of Allan Francis Hare (1913-1975) are buried in Plot 602 at Clareville cemetery, Carterton with the ashes of Jessie Elizabeth Hare (1916-2001 maiden name not yet known). Allan Francis Hare was a Garage Proprietor who resided at 24 Pratt Ave, Foxton Beach. He was originally interred in Plot 056, Block 016, Area Q at Kelvin Grove cemetery in Palmerston North. He was later disintered and buried in Clareville
- if you contact the Council they may tell you when this occurred if you want to know

Palmerston North City Council:
Telephone:
+64 (06) 356 8199

Fax:
+64 (06) 351 4471

E-mail:
[email protected]

by neich on 2011-10-01 18:55:31

will check it out thanks, had I not had a senior moment this week, the jigsaw would have been faster, the local Petrol station, is Smith Hare and Christensen, it was when a friend in Masterton said, arent you awake this week... waiting for friend to return home, then can give her the news. thanks!

by ngairedith on 2011-10-01 19:59:47

Lucky you going to Lake Ferry tomorrow. I LOVE the wild & isolated coast of Lake Ferry (a 1,557-acre coastal lake)

My parents spent their honeymoon there at the Hotel, the southern-most hotel in the North Island, (the original building back in 1851 was a cross between a Maori whare and a shepherd's hut, built to supplement the ferryman's income, combining his role of publican and ferryman across Lake Onoke to Palliser Bay. When they built it they mostly used timber from the shipwrecks)

When we were children our parents took us back for visits and I used to get a thrill exploring the rock caves but always scared I would be attacked by the feral cats that lived in them

Later we used to take our own kids there, set the whitebit nets along the lake shore or scoop at the Lake Ferry Bar, very dangerous sport :) or throw the surf-casting rods into the wild ocean

very interesting read: Lake Ferry

A timeline journal from 1887 - 1943 naming some locals during those days at LAKE FERRY (written in June 2011)

Lake Ferry Hotel as it is today

Lake Ferry Holiday Park today, but where we used to stay in one of the (then) baches

Lake Ferry on youtube - the surf looks very calm in this clip. I have seen dangerously huge waves
- this news on one of these huge waves that swept a group of whitebaiters into Lake Onoke just a couple of days ago (28 Sep 2011)

have fun tomorrow

by neich on 2011-10-02 00:11:39

yes read that in Times Age the other day, another place to explore is Ngawi further around the headland, very dark sand there, almost black.. I climbed up to Castlepoint Lighthouse some months back, no wind so could do it with ease, had a bus trip out there, so we went in a group up the steps and walked back to the coach in the tide coming in, lovely sunny day. Rang the friend.. so happy so thank you so much, she said her family member was called ZALIE MARY HAMMOND.. unusual first name! think the youngest of the family.

by neich on 2011-10-11 16:40:29

Will be meeting up with a HARE descendant on Friday this week, so will let you know what else we can learn.... he is from Letitia side...

by jennybrett on 2012-07-16 18:16:25

Hello, I am the grandaughter of Henry Louis Percival Hare son of Henry Albert Watson Hare and Grandson of Walter Maldon Hare. I so happy i have found information about my Grandfather because when he married my grandmother in the UK in the 1930 he had dropped the surname of Hare and I have been searching in the uk for his birth and his family. At some point between 1911 and 1929 he came to the UK and worked in the circus and as a stage manager in theatres.He and my nan had 7 children, six survived one being my Mum born in 1941 Valerie Iris. Do you have any information on what happened to Margherita McAlley his first wife as i have not been able to find any divorce or death for her. My grandmothers name was Marion Olive Ida May from Blackpool.
Thank you for all you hard work on the Hare family tree, much appreciated.
Kind regards,
Jenni

by neich on 2012-07-16 19:17:43

a contact at last.. please contact me off site, I am at Clareville.. I have photographs from Bolton Street Cemetery to share etc... Now Letitia is buried at Clareville, when i can will check her grave, but to there are two different HARE families, one is not related!

by neich on 2012-07-21 18:44:44

rang friend in Gisborne she would like to make contact, but no computer! I am the one to help... thanks..

by neich on 2012-12-26 20:16:30

make my year please JENNYBRETT, get back to me re the Hare family.. are you in UK or NZ? I have told my friend whom I am researching for that you left a message.. thanks

by jennybrett on 2012-12-27 20:50:52

Hello,
I live in Southern Spain, but my grandfather died in London in 1958 as Henry Louis Percival, the name HARE was mentioned as his surname and that he was from New Zealand.
My Mum knows nothing of any family still in New Zealand.
We would both be interested in exchanging info etc as I think your research is part of our family tree.
My email address is [email protected], look forward to hearing from you, kind regards, Jenni
Ps.. Happy to have made your year :-)

by neich on 2012-12-28 13:46:33

think I have found a relation for Jenny as well... what part of London was Henry in please... I am from South London...

by gellreed on 2013-01-07 14:57:17

Hello Jenny,
It would appear you are related to me. My information on Henry Louis Percival Hare had come to a dead end. Now I know what happened to him. You are descended from Charles Knigge of Germany. His sons Charles August Knigge,[your ancestor] and Charles Herman Knigge came out to Wellington at different times. Do you have twins in your tree? You are descended from a triplet born in Scotland in 1832. She was Catherine [Kitty] McIntosh who married Charles August Knigge. He would have been known by his middle name as would his brother. Kitty's parents were Alexander McIntosh, abt 1799-1881 and Margaret Oliphant MacFarlane, abt 1801-1881. The family arrived at Wellington on the London on 12/12/1840. Some people have the wrong year of birth for both parents and on the Petone Settlers Database which is online, Margaret is recorded as Mary. Her name had been entered as Marg. but the last letter wasn't closed at the top right. Alexander's name was recorded as Alex. I'm trying to fix the problems on the database.
John Reed

by neich on 2013-04-29 18:19:08

heard from another descendant today in UK... Neich

by neich on 2016-01-03 20:16:47

Ngaire... I have an old paper, Evening Post 14 march 1936, and I was surprised to read about a wedding for Mark Perreau to Adeline Hare, so rang up my friend in Gisborne, and said were these part of her family? Surprise Surprise, yes, so read out the newspaper cutting now have to scan and send up to her plus what else I found out, the brother of the Groom, had Foxton Fizz.. also the father had a business in Foxton, its on Kete Horowhenua site about the family and photograph of the business, General Store and tea rooms at Foxton Beach! The father came out from London, born there in 1833. Now the couple, Adeline and Mark married in Newtown. Wellington, reception Island Bay that was the clue that had to be the right Hare, as at Carterton today, we have a family of Hare and not related, but there is a chap in Masterton whose is related!

Happy New Year and good hunting!

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