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hoping to find more information on the O'Neil family

Question by mj321rod

I am looking for any suggestions on how to further trace this line of my family - any and all help or guidance will be greatly appreciated This is the information that I know for certain: John Augustine O'Neil, my grandfather, was born on May 17 1898 in Scotland and passed away in May 1973 in Brooklyn NY. He married Mary Doyle (1904-1982) in Glasgow Scotland and came to Brooklyn NY in the 1920's. Mary Doyle was the daughter of Patrick Doyle and Mary Burgess They had four children: Mary, Agnes, Alice and John. John Augustine's father was Feliz Michael O'Neil born abt 1857 in Ireland and passed away Dec 13 1900 in Campbeltown Scotland. He was married to Agnes Black, daughter of Daniel Black and Margaret Morrison. Agnes was born abt 1870 in Rathlin Island Antrim Ireland and passed away in 1923 in Campbeltown Scotland. Feliz Michael's father was Arthur O'Neil born abt 1798 in Ireland and passed away April 5 1876 in Campbeltown Scotland. He married Bridget McGeehan. According to Arthur O'Neils death cert it listed his parents as being Isabella McCloskeu and Arthur O'Neil both of Ireland. I have tried the LDS family org site, Rathlian Island records and ancestry. I do not know if Griffiths valuation can provide any information as the name is common - although growing up I was always told the name was O'Neil with one L and not two (but I am sure that for some reason one L was lost among the way). Any and all information/ guidance would be greatly appreciated - thank you Mary

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on 2012-02-22 12:17:27

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by vinsdotter on 2012-04-13 11:06:31

Hi Mary.
Growing up as an O'Neil with one L...I was told the same as you! But researching your family you certainly cannot rely on a 'correct' spelling.
I am in Australia & have had such a difficult time trying to find my O'Neils - I've almost given up.
I realized that when the Irish or Scottish arrived here - their accents would have been very strong. Thus when giving their names to the English authorities - it is little wonder the spell was incorrect. But there are not really many different versions of O'Neil - Oniel, oniell, oneill etc. If a person was literate you do find their name spelt correctly - most times anyway!
One name I could mention would be Mariner - relatives of my mother. The name has been spelt at least 6 different ways I have already found. If you think of an Irish person saying the name even now it would sound so different to my pronunciation.
So I am afraid this will not make your task any easier & I am sorry I cannot help with your tracing but I wish you well.
Good luck.
Janet.

by SilverVixen on 2012-04-13 12:03:47

Try "Roots Ireland"

by mj321rod on 2012-04-13 15:49:13

Janet,

Thank you - it does make it really hard to trace, not only withe name changes in spelling but also knowing that it can be traced back to Ireland, where many of the records were destroyed. I have found a few so perhaps if you can send me the names of the O'Neils you are looking for it, I can check it against my list and hopefully one will be the same.

I am trying to figure out if all ONeil (with one L) were a branch of the original ONeills and just droped an L to seperate them from other family members

Thank you again

Mary

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