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Hotson and Buttery in Glasgow

Journal by PeterCampbell

Looking for information on John Hotson (Writer) who married Maria Buttery (b 1803) in Glasgow in 1833.

John's parents were Andrew Hotson and Agnes Hamilton (b. 1775).

Maria's parents were John Buttery and Christian McAra. The Butterys were involved in mining near Airdry.

I have some good information on their descendants but not much on their ancestors.

Surnames: BUTTERY HAMILTON HOTSON MCARA
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by PeterCampbell Profile | Research | Contact | Subscribe | Block this user
on 2008-01-02 08:20:30

PeterCampbell , from Melbourne, Australia, has been a Family Tree Circles member since Jan 2008. is researching the following names: HOTSON, LAKEMAN.

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by mhotson on 2008-01-20 14:44:51

I am a direct descendant of John and Maria, and also have good information on the family tree extending down from them.

I do not have anything yet beyond what you mention in this message for ancestors. I would like the opportunity to compare notes and fill in some holes that I have in my tree.

If I do get any information on the Hotsons or Butterys further back, I will certainly pass it along.

Mike Hotson
Pictou, Nova Scotia, Canada

by PeterCampbell on 2008-01-21 07:36:41

Hello Cousin Mike!

I am descended from John & Maria Hotson's eldest child,
John Buttery Hotson who was my great-grandfather and who lived most of his adult life in Australia (I live in Melbourne). I have a full list of his descendants - who number a grand total of only 13 people in four generations!

From the informaton I have, I might guess you are descended from the next child, Alexander, who married Eliza Balderstone in 1868 and had seven children.

Of the other children:
James H was unmarried;
William Candlish H died young (and I think unmarried);
Hamilton Andrew H had three children whose families I know about (his son was Sir John Ernest Buttery Hotson for whom I have created a page on Wikipedia. Of his daughters, Jessie's daughters are Evelyn who married the 3rd Viscount Younger of Leckie, and Marion who marreid into the Salvesen shipping empire.);
Andrew H I have no details about; and
Maria Christina I have no details of either.

by mhotson on 2008-01-21 15:33:33

I am indeed descended from Alexander and Eliza.

While I do not have specific details, I do know that Alexander and Eliza moved to Burma (at some point in the 1860's I think), as that is where my great-grandfather Arnold was born in 1871. Arnold became harbormaster in Canton, China in 1909 or 10, and Arnold and his wife Kate Lay brought their children to Canada in 1914, before Arnold and Kate returned to Canton while the children were in boarding school in Vancouver.

The family stays in Canada from there, leading to my family's presence in Nova Scotia with my wife and two children Theresa and Ian).

I have found a photo of John and Maria's tombstone in Glasgow, Scotland. It is near the bottom of this page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kentigern/

Talk to you again,

Mike

by PeterCampbell on 2008-01-30 08:38:33

I have the children of your grandparents Arnold Hotson and Kate (nee Lay) as:
Denis Alexander (b. Shanghai c. 1903)
Walter Arnold (b. Shanghai c. 1906)
Kate (b. ? c. 1908)
Eleanor (b. Canton c. 1916) - after they returned to China

Can you fill some of that in?

Actually, I have a letter form Arnold to my gt-grandfather John Buttery Hotson in Sydney, saying that he is sailing in and hoping to meet.

John Buttery Hotson married Emma Annie Maitland in London in 1881. Their two children were:
Annis Harriott Maria 1883-1966 (unmarried)
John Maitland Hotson 1890-1961

by PeterCampbell on 2008-01-31 08:11:33

Mike,

Seeing that your family went to Canada, I wonder if you are related to the noted Shakespeare authority (John) Leslie Hotson, b. Delhi Ontario, 16 August 1897?

by IanMurray on 2008-02-16 09:32:16

Peter: Kate was born in Shainhai in 1908

Unlikely that Leslie Hotson is part of Arnold Hotson's descendants - I will check with some other family members to determine if he is known to be from another branch.

Would love to see a copy of the letter from your great grandfather to mine.

Ian Murray
Grandso of Walter/Cousin of Mike
ian.murray@centurytel.net

by PeterCampbell on 2008-02-17 06:18:29

Hi Ian,

Have heard from others that Leslie Hotson is not related (at least to our bits of the family).

I sent a private message to Mike with my email address in case he had some larger documents to send and to which I could reply with my chart that links us all. I might send it to you ...

Stay in touch.
Peter

by fran08 on 2008-08-07 08:24:47

Peter
I'm not sure if this is any help, but I have some McAra people in my family. Ann McAra married Charles Cochrane in 1829 in Scotland. The name Christian also features among the girls in the family.
Frances

by AndyPhilpot on 2008-12-11 13:17:08

I'm also a direct descendant of Maria and John Hotson. Their son, Alexander, was my great grandfather on my father's side of the family.

I know little about the family except that Alexander was a banker in Burma for a time and then retired to California where he grew oranges and where my grandfather met Ava Theodora Hotson.

Andy
Hamilton Canada

by PeterCampbell on 2008-12-16 05:11:41

Andy,

Great to hear from you! I don't have much information about your part of the family - your gt-grandfather, Alexander Hotson, married Eliza Balderstone in 1868, and Ava (or maybe Ada?) Theodora was their 3rd child, born on 2 August 1872. After that I know nothing except that she might have had two male children, one perhaps called John St Leger???

I would be grateful for some details of your parents'generation of the family, and your own, if you would like to provide them to me in a personal email to pcamp@unimelb.edu.au, and I can give you my family here in Australia.

Best wishes, and hoping to hear form you soon.
Peter

by ijkerr on 2009-03-09 14:08:38

Hi, it looks like I am yet another descendant of John and Maria. They were my great-great-great-grandparents. My mother inherited the family bible that belonged to them. I have in front of me a photocopy of the inside of the front page that declares it is the family's bible, and a detailed handwritten listing of their birth, marriage, and death dates, as well as those for their children. The descendants then continued the tradition by entering their details. It's been a great resource for me.

The notes are handwritten, so it's hard to decipher in places, but it appears that Maria Buttery's mother's name was Christina (or maybe Christine), but definitely not Christian. (according to my source, anyway). I couldn't decipher the McAra before, but it definitely fits what I have.

I don't have any information that goes further back than their parents names, but I have details that can fill in the gaps. Take a look at my website here:

http://rawr.ca/modules.php?op=modload&name=Genealogy&file=descend&personID=I1551&tree=KERR&POSTNUKESID=a8c3473f1ebb9f4748e65a689a607b39

...and contact me if you have any questions or need more information.

Mike, I'm particularly interested in talking to you. We both share Arnold Hotson as a great-grandfather, which makes us 2nd cousins! I don't have any information on your branch of the tree, so any that you can provide would be appreciated.

What I heard about Alexander Hotson was that he was some sort of assistant/teacher/translator to the last King of Burma. Anyone else heard that story? I also heard about his son Arnold being the harbourmaster in Canton. My mom (his granddaughter) has some sort of cup presented to him in thanks for his service.

Ian Kerr
Vancouver, BC, Canada

by PeterCampbell on 2009-09-14 09:07:36

Ian,

Sent you a message via email about a visit to Vancouver next month (October), but have not had a reply. Hoping we can meet in person and reunite the family!

Please let me know if you are around!

Peter

by hhhotson on 2013-01-20 18:58:23

To the canadian in the group Alexander Hotson son of Robert "Robin" and Isobel donald came to canada as a Grand mason builder he married Grizel Nichol , this part of the family is from langholm ,scotland.Anoher note in http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jmsfam/Hotson/Alex%20Hotson%20fam.htm According to Zella Hotson's book, Alexander became Grand Mason of Scotland in 1812;"it being necessary to bring over an installing Mason from Europe". Of Alexander and Grizzel's family of eleven, six children, and the childrenof a 7th came to Upper Canada (Ontario)
John settled in Perth County, Alexander in Middlesex, and the others cameto Oxford County -- James, Margaret, Walter, George and the children of Isabella
these are different than john and maria,at first sight it may be that the john hotson mention here is Robert "Robin" Hotson brother

by PeterCampbell on 2013-01-21 08:38:11

Thanks HH - I know about all the information about Grizel and Zella, but have not yet been able to link the families together. Still work to be done!

Peter (Australia)

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