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I would like to know where john boxley is buried

Question by kayt1949

john boxley was my GGGG Grandfather he came out on the 'Scarborough' second fleet, he married Ann Baker she came out on the 'Neptune'1790.
I would like any information on them after they arrived.

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on 2011-08-05 03:57:48

kayt1949 has been a Family Tree Circles member since Aug 2011. is researching the following names: BOXLEY, JOHNBOXLEY, FULLER.

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by janilye on 2011-08-05 15:53:59

JOHN BOXLEY was indicted for feloniously assaulting Elizabeth Monk, in a certain open place, near the king's highway, on the 12th day of September 1786, and putting her in fear, and feloniously taking from her person, and against her will, two linen shirts, value 4 s. two shifts, value 4 s. a cotton gown, value 5 s and a cotton skirt, value 4 s. her property . ( Middlesex Old Bailey Reference Number: t17861025-3
Offence: Violent Theft > highway robbery
Verdict: Guilty > with recommendation
Punishment: Death)
He was humbly recommended to mercy by the Jury, there being only one witness, and no collateral circumstance in confirmation of her evidence.

Tried by the second Middlesex Jury before Mr. ROSE.

Commuted - transportation.


John BOXLEY arrived in the second fleet on board the "Scarborough". He was sentenced to death at the Middlesex Old Bailey for Highway Robbery , this was commuted to life, he received a conditional pardon 18 OCT 1801

John BOXLEY b: 1759 d: 20 November 1816 is buried at St Phillips, Sydney,

BOXLEY married Ann BAKER (BARKER) at St. Phillip's Church of England, Sydney, 24 April 1792.

there were 3 children :-

1. Francis Boxley b: 6 November 1795- I don't know what happened to Francis he was apprenticed at the dockyard and in the General Muster 1823/4/5, Francis BOXLEY, aged 21 was listed as being employed by Mr. Grono at Windsor.

2. Mary Ann Boxley b: 29 June 1799 d:1875, McDonald River, NSW. She married William FULLER 1774-1835 in Richmond,NSW in 1817;

Their children were:-
William Fuller 1821 1847
John Fuller 1824 1892 m Lucy Emma Daniels 1834-1918
Samuel Fuller 1825 1916
Mary Ann Fuller 1825 1885 m. John Jones at Pitt Town on 12 Oct 1840
Ann Fuller 1828 1919
George Fuller 1836 1926

3. John (born and died 1802).

Re- Ann --[In his book 'The Second Fleet', Michael Flynn gives information about Ann Baker/Barker as follows: "Ann Baker was committed to Lavenham Bridewell, west Suffolk, and tried at the July 1783 Quarter Sessions for running away from the Cosford House of Industry and imbezzling the goods of the directors. She was sentenced to 3 years hard labour and was again committed to the House of Industry. After running away a second time she was adjudged an incorrigible rogue at the Bury St Edmunds Sessions of October 1785 and ordered a sentence of 7 years transportation. Baker appears to have remained in Lavenham Bridewell until late 1789, when she was sent on board the Neptune transport. Her name was entered as Barker on the ship's indent, apparently in error as she had twice been indicted as Baker in quarter sessions records. There were several women named Ann Barker/Baker living in the colony in the 1790's. One married John Boxley in April 1792 and the other married first fleeter Daniel Barnett in June 1793. The second fleet Ann Baker certainly married one of these and was living in the Sydney district in 1801. In that year Boxley was listed with a land grant near Sydney on which he lived with a wife and 2 children. It seems more likely that he was the second fleet woman's husband. By 1806 he was working as a basket maker in Sydney, bringing up the 2 children alone. One of them, Francis (c1795) was an apprentice at the Sydney dockyard in 1814. Ann Boxley had been buried at Sydney 23 October 1804."]
Ann's death was registered at St. Phillip's on 23 October 1804, leaving her husband John BOXLEY to care for 8 year old Francis and 5 year old Mary Ann. By 1806, Boxley had sold the farm to a Mr. LAYCOCK and was working as a basket maker.

BOXLEY gave evidence in a murder trial in the Sydney Court in 1799. He had been cutting bushes near the brickfields (then just south of Sydney town) when a body was discovered in a pit covered with bushes.

According to the 1802 census, Boxley (settler Port Jackson) had purchased 30 acres in Sydney, 18 of which were cleared. He had 2 acres in wheat, 10 in maize, 2 male and 2 female hogs, 4 bushels of wheat and 13 of maize in hand, and he had himself, 1 woman and 2 children and 1 government servant (David Braithwaite) off stores (self sufficient).

by kayt1949 on 2011-08-05 21:07:30

Thank you so much for all your information. I had no idea about my ancesters except dates and names.
My line comes down through, John Boxley and Ann Baker's(In my information she was a Baker not a Barker.) daughter Mary Ann Boxley. Thanks again Kay.

by kayt1949 on 2011-08-05 21:29:03

Has anyone information on who John Boxley and Ann Baker's parents where?

by janilye on 2011-08-05 22:15:58

His father's name was Francis BOXLEY born about 1745. He died at age 24 at St.Michael, Queenhithe, London in 1769.

Source: London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812

Wife was Susannah (don't know her maiden name)

As far as I can make out they only had the one child before Francis died,

No clues on either John or Ann in NSW death records;
V18041922 2A/1804 BOXLEY ANN
V18163660 2B/1816 BOXLEY JOHN

V1816528 7/1816 BOXLEY JOHN AGE 60 = Church record.

Nothing at all on Ann Baker apart from place of birth, Suffolk. (relying on criminal records for this information).
Since she was only 14 when transported and had, in her young life already run away from Cosford twice. I would say she was quite possibly orphaned from age 12 - certainly destitute.
It was standard practice to be declared an incorrigible rogue for anyone running away from a workhouse.
have a look on this workhouse site and find Cosford under workhouse locations. The site also contains a lot of information.

by kayt1949 on 2011-08-06 07:04:41

you are wonderful. Thankyou so very much. Kay

by kimmerz81 on 2012-05-21 01:52:52

Just a note, I was following this line today on my family tree, its a twig off my late uncle by marriage's line (he was a Fuller descended from Mary Ann Boxley) and just had to make some corrections if I may. I don't think Francis Boxley died in 1769, I think it was his infant son as I checked the records on Ancestry and it said Francis was an infant on the burial records. Also Francis and Susannah had a few other children including John bapt in 1759, Susannah bapt 1761, William bapt 1754 and Mary bapt 1751. The older two seemed to be bapt in Berkshire and the rest in London.

by kimmerz81 on 2012-05-21 02:11:37

Just had a look further, there's a Francis Boxley buried in 1784 in Chelsea, London, wonder if this is him? Was in non-conformist records.

by kayt1949 on 2012-08-13 01:51:46

Hello again, Iam so sorry i havent been in touch, I mainly use the Ancestry site.
Thankyou again for all your info, I have found John Boxley and Ann Baker's marriage info, although not a great deal of info on it. I have found out that Francis was 2 when he died and he is buried with his Mother and Father in the old Sydney cemetery.
my email address: bearmikay@yahoo.com.au so i hope to keep in touch. Are you on Ancestry?

by Beachgirl42 on 2012-10-26 14:54:15

by Beachgirl42 on 2012-10-26 14:59:45

Hello
Do you know who William Fuller married and what the name of his children are please? I am 'chasing' a Mary Fuller born c. 1840 australia to William Fuller and Elizabeth Unknown. I am leaning to the Willian Fuller and Elizabeth [?Ball] married in Pitt Town Australia but am not certain. Ann is often referred to as Ann Caroline Virginia and Elizabeth is mostly Elizabeth but sometimes Elizabeth Mary! Can anyone help please.

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