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John MAX + Francesca Marta ISKIRKA - Manawatu

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on 2013-07-19 22:42:06


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by j9max on 2013-07-21 07:42:08

Brilliant work! Where do you find the lists of children/birth years etc?

by ngairedith on 2013-07-21 17:41:30

At the divorce court case of 29 May 1912, Clara states she had 9 children. Then it's a matter of finding these 9 children using newspaper reports at Paperspast and Birth Death & Marriages

Also, you may find help at NZ REGIONAL ARCHIVES

by j9max on 2013-07-22 07:32:57

Correction to the wedding date for John and Alice Max: 17 November 1917 according to war records.

by ngairedith on 2013-07-22 07:49:11

thanks for that
by the way, would you be interested in supplying the dates & names of their 9 children

by ngairedith on 2013-07-28 03:22:58

keeping postings linked ...

the family of John Max arrived on the Lammershagen from Hamburg, Germany, arriving into Wellington, New Zealand 11 July 1875

by Krystyna on 2013-08-19 06:36:48

Hi Ngaire! I'm Jan and Clara Iskirka's great-granddaughter.

by Krystyna on 2013-08-19 18:34:23

Here is some information on Jane Iskirka, the youngest daughter of Jan and Clara Iskirka (excuse me if this info is in the wrong place, I'm brand new to this site.)
Jane was sometimes known as Jinnie, which is possibly where the confusion about her name comes from. She married Joseph White on April 8, 1912 at St Patrick's Church in Palmerston North (it's now known as the Cathedral of the Holy Spirit.) I have inherited the gold cross that Joseph gave her on her wedding day. They had three children: Violet May White,b.circa 1913,died aged 10 in 1923; Joseph Thomas White, b. 1916, died 1995; and Eileen Mary White (who later changed her first name to Lee) b. 1925. Their father Joseph White died in 1937. I am the daughter of Joseph Thomas White who married Mavoura Joy Hickey in 1943. They had two children: Tina b. 1944, and Grant, b. 1949. They divorced in 1955. Joseph Thomas White's second wife was Shirley Semple of Newcastle, NSW, Australia. They had one son, Andrew, b.1960. Grant White did not marry and is still living. Shirley Semple White died on Xmas Day 1994. Her husband, already suffering from cancer, died January 15, 1995. Andrew White married Joanne Older and they had two children, Ben and Gemma. I have some additional information about the 19th-century White family, and a little bit about the Malgraffs, Clara Iskirka's birth family.

by ngairedith on 2013-08-19 18:39:04

Thanks so much. This is great info. Would live to read more on your family

by Krystyna on 2013-08-19 18:46:07

There was definitely a James Iskirka, brother to all the other children in the Iskirka family. All I know about him however is that he was good with horses and left school at 12 to work as a stable groom.

by Krystyna on 2013-08-19 18:57:04

I am looking for an important piece of the Iskirka puzzle -- the village or town of origin of Jan Ignatz Iskirka, who emigrated from Poland to New Zealand in 1876. I have been looking for this for years without success. He never divulged it publicly during his lifetime, even in his 1890 naturalisation record. The only clue I have is the family legend that they came from the Polish "highlands" which I take to mean the High Tatras mountains. I have been told that the surname Iskirka or Iskierka (it means "Little Spark) may be German rather than Polish; someone else told me they thought the name was Slovak.

by Krystyna on 2013-08-19 19:10:53

Clara Iskirka was an interesting woman. She married very young -- only 15, although my aunt told me she "bumped up" her age to 17 for the marriage register. She and Jan Iskirka were married six months after Jan arrived in New Zealand. They were married in the small coastal town of Foxton around October 1876 by a Justice of the Peace. This choice of celebrant seems a bit odd, since they were Catholic and there was a priest who travelled regularly around outlying towns to perform marriages and baptisms. Maybe they eloped. Clara's parents Johan and Johanna Malgraff & sister Auguste seem to disappear from the scene completely after that. After Jan and Clara divorced, Jan took off to the New Zealand town of Te Kuiti and possibly bought a farm. Clara was well educated, so could support herself. I have been told that Clara spoke several languages. She is referred to in Papers Past as a court interpreter for non-English speaking immigrants. She also worked as a teacher, and as a "female searcher" for the Palmerston North police. (In the days before female police officers, older ladies were employed to "pat down" women suspects. ) I have printed out the items from Papers Past about this, so will get back to you with specific dates.

by Krystyna on 2013-08-19 19:24:38

Sorry about all this deluge of stuff: just one more little bit of information. I'm convinced that the Rosanowskis and the Iskirkas had a definite connection (apart from the adultery divorce case with John Max and the Rosanowski daughter!)
August Rosanowski, who was about the same age as Jan Iskirka, came from the same area of Poland (Pomerania) as Clara Malgraff Iskirka, and settled in the same New Zealand town (Palmerston North) as the Iskirka family. Jan bought a block of land probably from the owners of the sawmill he worked for as a bushman (the Richter, Nannestad & Jenssen company)but in 1901 the Palmerston North archives' rate books show that August Rosanowski took over the payments of the 5-acre block in 1901.
On July 7, 1932 the elder August Rosanowski (he had a son named after him) died aged 84 and was buried in the Terrace End cemetery, Palmerston North, where many other early settlers are interred. Jan Iskirka died a month later, aged 83, on August 17, 1932, and is buried in the same cemetery. His daughter Annie Carnell is listed as having bought his burial plot. Since Jan normally lived in Te Kuiti, and Annie is also listed as living there, I feel he must have visited Palmerston North to see his dying old friend August Rosanowski, and then later died suddenly himself. He has no headstone. As a matter of interest, Annie Carnell is listed as one of the women who signed the 1893 women's suffrage petition which helped win New Zealand women the vote that year.

by Glory_Queen123 on 2016-07-27 05:15:55

Hi, My name is Gloria Sattler, I have been reading thru this saga, mainly cos I am attempting to find family connection with my family of the name VOLZKE. They came out from Pomerania as it was April 1876, the came out on the Fritz Reuter and landed in Wellington like all other immigrants before settling in the long run in Stratford Taranaki region. My quest is to try and find a link to finding family that was left behind all those years ago. The other family name connected to me is Eichstaedt, Emillie she married Volzke in 1874, so before they immigrated. I mentioned that they came from Pomerania, their village was Stary Chwalim, but back in their time of leaving known as Alt Valm. As far as I am concerned, along with some other family members I have since gotten to talk with, we feel that our ancestors were Pomeranian which is Polish today, not German. We feel might have been governed by Germany but not Germans.
Would so appreciate hearing from any body that gets to read this, on the off chance of information being helpful to my cause. My contact details are email: [email protected]

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