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James William Fielden and Mary Ann Speight James

Journal by jamo761

Finally some work on my direct family line. James & Mary are my Gt Gt Grandparents.

Current Research Objectives:
1: Find all James & Mary Ann's children and their marriages
2: Alfred's wife Annie & Children, Hester, Emily and Annie came to Wellington, New Zealand on the boat the Corinthic in 1911, when did Alfred come to New Zealand.
3: Find out who the Annie was with Hester & Emily. She is not Emily and Hester's sister as she stayed in England with her family. My Nana remembers her, called her "Aunty Annie". How does she fit into the picture.
4: Information about James William FIELDEN and Mary Ann Speight JAMES

James William FIELDEN
Born: 1850 in Saddleworth, Yorkshire, England
Died: 1907 in Macclesfield, Cheshire, England

James William Fielden born in Saddleworth, Yorkshire England to parents William FIELDEN and Nancy HALLIWELL. Haven't searched for an actual date yet, have been working on the children. Will do more research on these two once I have found the answers to my questions above. Refer below for information about James that I have found up till now. James' father William was noted as a Congregational Minister on his wedding certificate.

1851 Census
Residence: 22 Spring Head (Village), Saddleworth
William Fielding (spelt incorrectly) (34) b Tormoden, Yorkshire - Roller Coverer
Nancy (36) b Bradford, Yorkshire - Roller Coverer
Elizabeth Ellen (13) b Ashton, Lancashire - Cotton (?)
Samuel Halliwell (12) Ashton, Lancashire - Scholar
Emma (10) b Oldham, Lancashire - Nurse
Alice (3) b Saddleworth, Yorkshire
James William (1) b Saddleworth, Yorkshire

1871 Census
Residence: 3 Moss Lane, Altrincham, Cheshire
William Fielding (spelt incorrectly) (54) b Tormoden, Yorkshire - Independant Minsiter - Boardheath Chapel
Nancy (56) b Bradford, Yorkshire
Alice (23) b Saddleworth, Yorkshire - Dressmaker
James William (21) b Saddleworth, Yorkshire - Commerical Clerk

Mary Ann Speight JAMES
Born: 29 Aug 1844 in Bermondsey, Surrey, EnglandHave birth certificate
Baptised: 22 Sep 1844 at St Mary Magdalene, Bermondsey, Surrey, England
Died: 1890 in Altrincham, Cheshire, England

Mary Ann was born to parents William James and Jane Turner in Bermondsey, Surrey. William is noted as a W[?] Clerk on her birth certificate and a shipping clerk on Mary Ann & James' marriage certificate. Again I haven't done much research into this family yet either, concentrating on the children.

Currently can't find Mary Ann Speight James in the 1851 Census and the 1861 census is doubtful, although could be her. She isn't an easy person to find.

1871 Census
I believe this is Mary Ann, only due to the fact that she is living with Elizabeth Ellen Fielden, therefore it is feasible that Mary Ann met James through his sister Elizabeth. Although this Mary Ann says she was born in London. Really it is a guess.
Mary Ann James (26) b London, England - Milliner (Assistant) Address: 3 High Street.

20 March 1872 Marriage
Mary Ann & James married at the New Congregational Church, Bowdon Downs, Bowdon, Altrincham, Chester.
James is noted as living at 3 Moss Lane Altrincham, which matches with his 1871 census, but Mary Ann is noted as living at George Street, Altrincham, which doesn't match 1871 census of High Street.

1881 Census
Address: Hale Road, Hale, Altrincham, Cheshire
James W Fielding (again spelt incorrectly) (31) b Saddleworth, Yorkshire - Gray Cloth Salesman
Mary A (35) b London
Alfred W. H. (7) b 1874 Southport, Lancashire W is for William, H could be for Halliwell after his grandmother on his fathers side
Arnold L (6) b 1875 Altrincham, Cheshire unsure what the L stands for, and I'm not sure I agree with the Ancestry translation of L, the top loop looks like it is wrong for the L when looking at the same writer writing Lancashire, might be an I, but still no idea what it would stand for
Annie B (3) b 1878 Altrincham, Cheshire B is for Belmont, not sure where this comes from could be mother's side
Hester M (1) b 1880 Altrincham, Cheshire M is for Mary

1890 Mary Ann's death
Mary Ann dies between April & June 1890 in Altrincham, Cheshire. I can not find a probate record for her death. She left behind some very young children, Emily 6, Frank 8, Hester 10, Annie 12, Arnold 15 and Alfred 16

1891 Census
Address: Stockport Road, Altrincham, Cheshire
James W Fieldin (again spelt incorrectly although i could be an e) (41) b 1850 Saddleworth, Yorkshire - Gray Cloth Agent
Alfred W. (17) b 1874 Southport, Lancashire - Draper (Apprentice)
Arnold J (16) b 1875 Altrincham, Cheshire - Grocer's Assistent Now the initial is definitely a J, which makes sense as it would mostly likely be his mother's madien name James
Annie B (13) b 1878 Altrincham, Cheshire - Scholar
Hester M (11) b 1880 Altrincham, Cheshire - Scholar
Frank T (9) b - Scholar
Emily A (6) b - Scholar
Annie Fielden (36) Sister to James b Lees [?] Oldham, Lancashire It is very likely that Annie came to help out with the children after Mary Ann died.

1901 Census
James is out visiting at 35 Brompton Street, North Manchester, Lancaster
James W Fielding (spelt different again) (50) b Saddlworth Yorkshire - Estate Agent
None of the children are with him

1907 James' Death
James dies in 1907 in Macclesfield, Cheshire, England. Like his wife Mary Ann, I can not find a Probate record for his death.

CHILDREN of James William FIELDEN and Mary Ann Speight JAMES

Alfred William H FIELDEN
Born: 1874 in Southport, Lancashire, England
Died: 24 Jun 1945 in New Zealand

Alfred William was born in Southport, Lancashire. The H I have not found an official document with his name on it, but I would assume it is his Grandmother's maiden name on his father's side (HALLIWELL). It is only referenced one other time apart from the name on this birth record online and that's the 1881 census. After this it is shortened to Alfred William Fielden.

Alfred marries Annie ROYLE in 1894 in Altrincham, Cheshire.

1901 Census Alfred's family is together in Northenden, Cheshire.

1911 Census Alfred's family is missing Alfred and Emily Ashworth Fielden (his sister) is staying with them. Alfred has not died, because I can find him in New Zealand.

1911 on board the Corinthic bound for Wellington New Zealand, Annie Fielden nee Royle, her four sons and at least two of her sister in laws, Emily Ashworth Fielden, Hester Mary Fielden and Annie Fielden. I am yet to identify Annie. Annie initially looks like she is a sister in law also, Annie Belmont Fielden. But Annie marries William Edward Goodwin in 1900. Refer to Annie Belmont below (when it's written) she dies in Cheshire. Therefore this is not Annie Belmont, Alfred's sister. The other person it could be is Alfred's Aunt Annie, James William's sister. Time for some more research.

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by TerryBowden on 2018-04-22 05:08:27

I have a similar interest, particularly in the connection between William Fielden husband of Nancy Halliwell, and the Fielden families from Todmorden. Who is William's father?
I am starting from https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Fielden-119 and noting his parent William Fielden husband of Nancy Halliwell is in the cloth milling profession, and born in Todmorden.

by TerryBowden on 2018-04-22 05:11:28

"2: Alfred's wife Annie & Children, Hester, Emily and Annie came to Wellington, New Zealand on the boat the Corinthic in 1911, when did Alfred come to New Zealand. "

Emigrations to NZ in those times were often on the principle that the head of household would arrive first, set up the living arrangements, and then wife, family and any adult siblings would follow.

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