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MARTYN (Martin) John - Cornwall/Southbrook, NZ; ARBUCKLE, James - Tyrone/Victoria, AUST; SULLIVAN, John - Durham/Dunedin, NZ

Query by IanDM52

MORWENSTOW, CORNWALL/DUNEDIN,NZ - John and Ann MARTYN (nee COWLING) (sometimes spelt Martin in 19th century records) from Morwenstow, Cornwall; arr Lyttelton 1873; went to Southbrook, laboured, farmed until his death in 1913. No details of his siblings or life in Cornwall (possibly from devon also).

DURHAM, ENGLAND/DUNEDIN, NZ - John and Margaret SULLIVAN (nee ORMSBY) - John arr Dunedin? from Durham, England approx 1872-73 .. ship & date unk; Margaret in 1878 on the "Wellington" from ex-Inverclyde, born Dublin, Ireland. Married in 1880 at Dunedin registry office. John, a carter, died Dunedin 1933; Margaret 1930. Only son John Ormsby Sullivan killed on the Somme 1916 whilst serving with the 56th Battalion, AIF. Mainly looking for confirmation of John's origin, activity in Dunedin before marriage and up to 1930.

IRELAND/SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA - James ARBUCKLE - from Co Tyrone, departed Tyrone as 18yr old for Sydney in 185?. Enlisted for Maori Wars in Sydney in 1863, 23 yrs old. Believed to have returned to Aust in 1866 after war, poss married - death unk. Was in 2nd Waikato Militia Regiment, CTC. Parents believed to be Joseph and Margaret ARBUCKLE (there are lots of them in Ireland !). No information of Jame's life in Co Tyrone or in Australia before or after the NZ Land Wars.

Any assistance gratefully accepted.

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by noggin on 2014-07-01 19:42:25
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by noggin on 2014-07-01 19:52:30
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by asheppard on 2014-07-01 22:10:19

From Cornwall online Parish records
Marriage

More information about record 798074 in the Marriages database
Day Month 13-Apr
Year 1867
Parish Or Reg District Advent
Groom Fn John
Groom Sn MARTIN
Groom Age 23
Groom Residence Advent
Groom Condition Bachelor
Groom Rank Profession Quarryman
Groom Signed / Marked (S/M) M
Groom Father Name Wm
Groom Father Rank Profession Labourer
Bride Fn Ann
Bride Sn COWLING
Bride Age 20
Bride Residence Lanteglos
Bride Condition Spinster
Bride Rank Profession
Bride Signed / Marked (S/M) M
Bride Father Name Saml
Bride Father Rank Profession Labourer
Banns / Licence (B/L) B
Witness Fn1 Thomas
Witness Sn1 MARTYN
Witness Fn2 Mary Ann
Witness Sn2 MARTYN
Other Information
Transcriber Notes
Transcriber Sue Mutton

There is a family in Morwenstow with baptisms from 1838-1849 and they are on the 1841 & 1851 Census.

by asheppard on 2014-07-01 22:15:45

This is the baptism list it has John's mother as Mary but on the 1851 Census she is Grace possible transcriber or recorder error.

Year Up Parish Or Reg District Forename Surname Forename Forename
1838 Morwenstow Thomas MARTIN William Grace
1841 Morwenstow William MARTIN William Grace
1844 Morwenstow Mary Jane MARTYN William Grace
**1846 Morwenstow John MARTIN William Mary
1849 Morwenstow Anne MARTIN William Grace

you can view the details at this site
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/baptisms

by asheppard on 2014-07-01 22:18:53

1841 Census

1841 England Census about William Martin
Name: William Martin
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1815
Gender: Male
Where born: Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Moorwinstow
Hundred: Stratton
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Registration district: Stratton
Sub-registration district: Kilkhampton
Household Members:
Name Age
William Martin 26
Grace Martin 25
Thomas Martin 3

On next line still in same household but not recorded with them are

Grace Cornish 60
Mary Gilbert 6

by asheppard on 2014-07-01 22:28:32

1851 Census

1851 England Census about William Martyn
Name: William Martyn
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Grace Martyn
Gender: Male
Where born: Moorwinstow, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Morwenstow

Household Members:
Name Age
William Martyn 35, Head Ag Lab
Grace Martyn 30, wife,
William Martyn 9, son Scholar
Mary J Martyn 7, daugh.
John Martyn 5, son
Ann Martyn 2, daugh.
Grace Cornish 70, mother in law

William to Ann all born Morwenstow Grace Cornish born Kilhampton

Thomas oldest son is working as a servant Ag Lab on a farm of 84 Acres for Richard Baker, farm name is Curry

1851 England Census about Thomas Martin
Name: Thomas Martin
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Servant (ag Lab
Gender: Male
Where born: Moorwinstow, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Morwenstow

by asheppard on 2014-07-01 22:30:50

Marriage for William Martyn & Grace Cornish from Cornish on line Parish records

More information about record 1021491 in the Marriages database
Day Month 20-Apr
Year 1837
Parish Or Reg District Morwenstow
Groom Fn William
Groom Sn MARTYN
Groom Age
Groom Residence otp
Groom Condition
Groom Rank Profession
Groom Signed / Marked (S/M) M
Groom Father Name
Groom Father Rank Profession
Bride Fn Grace
Bride Sn CORNISH
Bride Age
Bride Residence otp
Bride Condition
Bride Rank Profession
Bride Signed / Marked (S/M) M
Bride Father Name
Bride Father Rank Profession
Banns / Licence (B/L) B
Witness Fn1 Elizabeth
Witness Sn1 TREMAIRE
Witness Fn2 Richard
Witness Sn2 BAKER
Other Information
Transcriber Notes
Transcriber Alan Rowland

The witness is Richard Baker, wonder if it's the same Richard Baker that Thomas is working for in the 1851 Census??

by asheppard on 2014-07-01 23:45:57

1861 Census

1861 England Census about William Martyn
Name: William Martyn
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: 1819
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Grace Martyn
Gender: Male
Where born: Moorwinstow, Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: Morwenstow
County/Island: Cornwall
Household Members:
Name Age
William Martyn 42, Head, Ag LAb
Grace Martyn 40, wife
Mary Jane Martyn 16, son,
Annie Martyn 11, daugh.
William Martyn 2, son
Grace Cornish 78, widow, Lodger, pauper

This is John in 1861 Census

1861 England Census about John Martin
Name: John Martin
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: 1847
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Morwenstow, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Morwenstow
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

With Susan Burrows family on 160 Acre farm called Middlefield employed as farm servant Carter.

More details for the 1871 Census that noggin found

John Martyn Occ: Slate Quarries
Ann: born St Teath
Charity: born Lanteglos Cornwall

possible Birth record for Charity from freebmd.org.uk

Births Sep 1870
MARTIN Charity Malinda Camelford 5c 10

by asheppard on 2014-07-02 00:12:37

This is possibly Ann Cowling's family


1841 England Census about Samuel Cowling
Name: Samuel Cowling
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: St Teath
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Cowling 30
Charity Cowling 30
William Cowling 9
Matilda Cowling 7
Sarah Cowling 5
Catherine Cowling 3
Jane Cowling 3 Mo

Children all born St Teath


1851 England Census about Samuel Cowling
Name: Samuel Cowling
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1810
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Charity Cowling
Gender: Male
Where born: St Teath, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: St Teath
Address:
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Cowling 41
Charity Cowling 41
Sarah Cowling 15
Catherine Cowling 11
Jane Cowling 9
Peggy Cowling 7
Ann Cowling 4
Samuel Cowling 1
Address: Union Poor House

Charity born St Breward


1861 England Census about Samuel Cowling
Name: Samuel Cowling
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: 1813
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Charity R Cowling
Gender: Male
Where born: St Teath, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: St Teath
Address:Whitewell Hamlet
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Cowling 48
Charity R Cowling 48
Jane Cowling 19
Ann Cowling 13
Samuel Cowling 11
John Cowling 8


1871 England Census about Samuel Cowling
Name: Samuel Cowling
Age: 59
Estimated birth year: abt 1812
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Charity Cowling
Gender: Male
Where born: St Teath, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Lanteglos
County/Island: Cornwall
Address: Helston Village
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Cowling 59
Charity Cowling 60
John Cowling 17

by asheppard on 2014-07-02 00:26:33

These on line baptisms

Year Up Parish Or Reg District Forename Surname Forename Forename
1836 Teath, St. Sarah COWLING Samuel Cherry
1838 Teath, St. Catherine COWLING Samuel Charity
1850 Teath, St. Samuel COWLING Samuel Cherry
1859 Teath, St. John COWLING Samuel Charity

and this very interesting one

More information about record 2161473 in the Baptisms database
Day Month 13-Mar
Year 1873
Parish Or Reg District Lanteglos by Camelford
Forename Ann
Surname COWLING
Sex dau
Father Forename Samuel
Mother Forename Charity
Residence Helston
Father Rank Profession labourer
Notes
Transcriber Notes
Transcriber Karen Duvall

by IanDM52 on 2014-07-02 05:33:50

Thank you noggin & asheppard, very helpful. You have filled a few gaps that I did not have fiiled. Ian Martyn, GGson

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