WILLIAM A. HANCY of Ireland whose sons emigrated to Australia
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by Glynne on 2009-05-27 02:55:54 Add Glynne as a friend Glynne's... Profile Research Contact | WILLIAM A HANCY was born Abt. 1740 in Ireland. His children:-
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| Surnames: HANCY MACDONALD WILLIAMS WOOLLEY Viewed 449 times |
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These two posts I stumbled across might also be of interest
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS/2001-03/0984176493
http://searches2.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley/2007-03/1174460852
Thankyou for these leads enjee -- I didn't realise that we had another convict in the family with Catherine Dunn having married Thomas Hancy. How many more of William and Sarah's children were attracted by people on the other side of the tracks (or bars in this case!!!!)
Hi Glynne and others
Back home here in Australia there is a great book which was published in 2007 titled 'Along the Nine Mile Creek, written by Ron Norton it tells the story of the Hancy & Norton families. And along the family trail there are a lot of convicts - Not only does the book give a look and who married who but is an eye opening concept of facts of an era of Australias history which our educational system sadly lacks in teaching.
To answer the questions William hancy and Sarah Macdonald had 9 children. Three in Eng and Thomas who was probably born on ship- as he claimed dependent on his circumstance to be either born here or in London. Of their 9 children 4 married convicts James Miller; Thomas Woolley; Catherine Dunn and James Pedergast.
Thomas Hancy and Catherine Dunn had 8 children that I found and two of these also married convicts
Wow Julie ---- This is almost unbelievable and I most certainly will try to get hold of the book. I presume you are a descendant ?? and I hope to correspond directly with you. I presume you mean James Williams (who was a miller) where you say James Miller???
Are you in touch with terrythom (descended from James Williams and Catherine Hancy's son George) or enjee (descended from their daughter Adelaide)who contacted me through this website?? We'll all have to get together. I wasn't much interested in history when I was at school but boy am I getting into it now (and living in UK with all it's beautiful historic houses brings it more to life).
Glynne
I presume that you also know that there were two Hancy boys who came over Brothers William and Michael.
Actually I'm not related my kids are though. My mother inlaw is the link. Thomas Hancy and Catherine had a daughter Jane who married John Norton a convict (he came from Tipperary) they had 12 kids - 6 of each. Their 3rd child Andrew married Margaret Rush and these two are my mother inlaws grandparents. believe it or not the gentleman who wrote the book also included a number of family group sheets which included photos of John Norton and Jane(Hancy) his wife as well as 11 of their 12 kids.
Impressive that the photo af John remains considering that he died in August 1880.
Andrew Norton who married Margaret Rush the family group sheet includes them and 11 of their 12 kids too -
Yep sorry it was/is Williams and no I had not contacted the others as yet I only stumbled on this website yesterday.
OH yeah William Hancy's gravestone is still reasonably intact Death 1830.
talk to you soon Julie
Hi Julie, checking through my files I found I'd had contact with Carol Surrey (nee Heidtmann) who is descended from John Norton and Jane Hancy's daughter Elizabeth (but I hadn't realised John Norton was a convict). I must get in touch with Carol again.
How do I get hold of the book by Ron Norton?
Glynne
Hi Julie, you mentioned the convict James Pedergast. His surname was Prendergast on his marriage reg, and Pendergast on his death reg (as far as I can make out on NSW BDM). His wife was Sophia Hancey, and her sister Elizabeth married James's brother, Thomas. There seems to be a mix up in their marriage regs (4 altogether for the 2 marriages that apparently took place on same day). I wonder if Thomas was a convict?
Glynne
Neither thomas or james are on the convict lists that are available. They married the sisters at RC Church Windsor NSW 5 5 1828. James died in 1865 Thomas died in 1862
James' death was registered at Windsor
Thomas' was registered at Cooma
Hi Julie -- I thought you had said in a previous comment that James Prendergast was a convict? I know he's not directly related to me but I'm getting more and more interested in all the convicts lives. Which is the best source for finding them all?
Glynne
Ok
Its been a bit hectic here and thats why I gave you the wrong info. I misread the sheet i had.
the 4 convict marriages are
Charlotte Hancy married a convict Wm Archibald Ashton
Thomas m catherine dunn
Ann to Thomas Woolley
Catherine to James Williams
the best place to find if someone was a convict is to start with
http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/info/fh/convicts
another good place for information can be
http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/keyname_search.asp
Hi Julie --- can we please exchange some info through the normal e-mail channels --- I've sent my address to you privately but I don't think you have seen it yet.
Glynne
Does anyone know of a John Hancy born abt 1837 in Switzerland? He served in the American Civil War. He is my great great grandfather, and I am trying to discover the connection between him and the Hancys in Europe, the UK, and Australia.
Dennis Hancy
Cleveland, OH USA
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Im a decendant of Catherine Hancy and James Williams. Never knew James was a convict until today. Thanks for posting the info.