DID FERDINAND LUBECKE (oops!), EARLY VIGNERON OF VINEYARD RD., SUNBURY, DIE AT GREENVALE IN 1902? (VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA.) :: FamilyTreeCircles.com Genealogy
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DID FERDINAND LUBECKE (oops!), EARLY VIGNERON OF VINEYARD RD., SUNBURY, DIE AT GREENVALE IN 1902? (VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA.)

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THE SHORT ANSWER IS NO. The vigneron at Sunbury was not Ferdinand Lubecke at all; he was FELIX FREDERICK BUBECK. Too many late nights researching and writing my DICTIONARY HISTORY OF TULLAMARINE AND MILES AROUND from late 1989 had played a terrible trick on my mind and the mistake had become etched into my memory. The vineyard had operated much later than I expected. F.F.Bubeck, yes Bubeck, was a Melton Shire councillor and this is his death record.I knew that I.W.Symonds had given the German name of his vineyard but I couldn't remember it. I leave the original journal, below the dotted line, and the title, unaltered as a warning to check your notes instead of relying on memory so you don't make the same sort of mistake that I did.

EventDeath Event registration number6820 Registration year1918
Personal information
Family nameBUBECK Given namesFelix Fredk SexUnknown Father's nameBubeck Emanuel Mother's nameAnna Maria (Kurrle) Place of birth Place of deathSunbury Age71


F.F. Bubeck,
. . . VIGNERON.
The Vell-known Wines of Schlossberg Vineyard Sold at Lowest Prices and of the Purest Quality.
(P.1, Sunbury News, 4-7-1903.) A few identical advertisements appeared till 1916.


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I.W.Symonds had much detail in his BULLA BULLA, a history of the shire of Bulla, about Ferdinand and other vignerons who gave Vinegar (sic, VINEYARD) Road its name. Unfortunately, when I wrote my DICTIONARY HISTORY OF TULLAMARINE AND MILES AROUND, I had forgotten this and the LUBECKE entry included only information from GREENVALE: LINKS WITH THE PAST about Ferdinand and his wife, Susan, living in a tiny house in Section Rd., Greenvale and the years of their deaths.

I couldn't find Ferdinand's death record until, remembering the spelling of Susan's surname in her death notice, and other variations (one being Lubcke), I played a hunch.

EventDeath Event registration number12793 Registration year1902
Personal information
Family nameLUBCKE Given namesFerdinand SexUnknown Father's nameUnknown Mother's nameUnknown (Unknown) Place of birth Place of deathBmdows Age57

Unfortunately, I had to discard my local history notes when I moved to Rosebud and I have no idea when Ferdinand settled at Vinegar Rd and how long he stayed there but there is no death record for Ferdinand Lubecke and only the one above for Ferdinand Lubcke.

This post was prompted by the chance discovery of Susan's death notice last night.

LUBEKE. –On the 5th November, 1924, at her daughter's residence, 93 Graham street, Albert Park, Susan, widow of the late Ferdinand Lubeke (late of Greenvale) and loving mother of Percy(Morwell), Cecilia (Mrs. Gilham, Albert Park), Julius (Queensland), Otto (Balwyn), and Lititia(Essendon); aged 78 years. A patient sufferer at rest. (P.1, Argus, 6-11-1924.)

Unfortunately Cecilia's death record is fairly vague about her place of birth but her maiden name has the spelling used by I.W. Symonds. Her birth record cannot be found but, in her marriage record, her maiden name is given as in her death notice
EventDeath Event registration number1663 Registration year1971
Personal information
Family nameGILHAM Given namesCecilia Sophia SexFemale Father's nameLUBECKE Unknown Mother's nameUnknown (Unknown) Place of birthMelbourne Place of deathWerribee Age89

EventMarriage Event registration number6887 Registration year1905
Personal information
Family nameLUBEKE Given namesCecilia Sophia SexUnknown Spouse's family nameGILHAM Spouse's given namesGeo Hy

Again, unfortunately, Susan's death record has no information about her parents. Her married surname is given as Lubcke.
EventDeath Event registration number15303 Registration year1924
Personal information
Family nameLUBCKE Given namesSusan SexFemale Father's nameUNKNOWN Mother's nameUnknown (Unknown) Place of birth Place of deathMELBOURNE SOUTH Age78

Good luck to anyone writing the family history. I hope this helps a bit.

I've had two goes at scanning through the below (very long) journal to find the reference to Ferdinand Lubecke of Vinegar (SIC) Rd last night without success but it's got to be there. It is almost certainly a reference to a clearing sale, his property having been sold. The disease that wiped out many vineyards in Victoria and all the ones near Sunbury, had probably forced the sale of the property.

DICTIONARY HISTORY OF BULLA, VIC., AUST. -also the Diggers Rest ...
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Nov 5, 2013 - Sunbury was similarly affected but although the railway's arrival in 1859 tempered ..... Sunbury News and Bulla and Melton Advertiser (Vic. ...... such as Sunbury straddling two shires, Ferdinand Lubecke (SIC) of Vinegar (SIC) Rd having ...

POSTSCRIPT. Having realised my mistake about the name of the VINEYARD Rd vigneron, I was able to find his entry on page B.158 of DHOTAMA in seconds.

BUBECK, Frederick (Sunbury).
Page numbers refer to BULLA BULLA by I.W.Symonds. Bubeck is also mentioned in SALTWATER RIVER TRAILS by Hugh Anderson.
P.100. The Royal Hotel in Sunbury was built by F.F.Bubeck, the vigneron from The Gap.
P.128. Between Bald Hill and the Calder Highway was the Schlossberg Vineyard of Felix Frederick Bubeck who was sent out from Rotenburg, near Stottgart,by his father at the age of 19 to select land suitable for wine growing. He chose 60 acres on Bald Hill in 1866.He was a Melton Shire Councillor for 38 years and died two years after the last vines were rooted out in 1916.

Surnames: BUBECK GILHAM LUBCKE LUBECKE LUBEKE
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by janilye on 2017-05-25 01:08:32

VICTORIA.BD&M
LUBCKE Given names Ferdinand
Event Death
Place of death Bmdows Age57
Reg. year 1902 Reg. no12793

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