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Looking for wifes and children of Sitting Bull



by smitty911
on 2006-09-26 02:49:54
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I am looking for any family of my grandmother: Alice Ruth Ann Schrieve.Her parents are John and Alicia Schrieve. She is half Sioux Indian and believed to be a grand daughter of Sitting Bull. She has an older brother named John Schrieve. I am finding out Sitting Bull had at least 9 wives. My grandmother was orphaned at 5 years old in Pierre, South Dakota and lived on the reservation, which was probably the Standing Rock Reseveration. I would really like to know how her parents died. She was taken into the Tate family at 5 years old to do laundry. She later married Warren Hedges Smith.

Surnames: SCHRIEVE SITTINGBULL TATANKA-TYOTANKA
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by allycat on 2006-09-26 03:30:51

Dear Smitty911, Hi there. If you do a search for sitting bull in the top right-hand corner of familytreecircles, you will be taken to at least 7 other journals on Sitting Bull.

There have been a few queries on him of late, and I sourced a few websites, including details on his grave.

Kind regards,
Alison.

by chicken on 2006-10-12 12:21:53

Hi! i also was told i am related to sitting bull.
My parents sayed that he is my great grandfather. I've been doing alot of reserch lately and i cant seem to find anyone else that knows any of his family tree. If you have any information than you think can help me please share it with me.

your friend,
Chicken

by smitty911 on 2006-10-15 19:26:38

Hi Chicken,

So it seems you are having the same problems researching Sitting Bull. There is alot of info on sitting bull on the interenet. I know of 5 wives and many children. The best thing to do is to start reading about him and get to know more about the Sioux tribe. He was also my grandsmothers...grand father. My grandmother had a brother name John Schrieve. You wouln't be a realated to the Schrieve family?

Anyway check out the Standing Rock Reseveration at www.standingrock.org. This is the reservation where sitting bull and some of his wives and children lived. I'm going to contact them as well to see if they have any tribal info.

Let me know what you find out....

Sue

by chicken on 2007-01-19 12:36:36

wow thats very interesting!!!!
-Chicken-

by Motivator on 2007-03-26 13:56:38

Wow 9 wives. I heard he had 4 wives. He must have an army of descendents. I recently spoke to Ernie LaPointe who claims to be the only remaining great grandson of Sitting Bull. Teyet Ramar also known as Chief White feather amongst his friends was a close family friend. He performed song before the king of England once. He once showed my grandfater Rev. Kenneth Royal Bliss papers that proved he was a grandson of Sitting Bull. Teyet has a son named Sonny who I hear has been somewhat reclusive. Sonny would then also be a great grandson of Sitting Bull. I have heard that they wrangle so much about who is related the some don't want to argue anymore.
http://purgatorio1.blogspot.com/2005/12/gone-but-not-forgotten-viii-chief.html

by Breanna_009 on 2007-05-11 01:00:19

I was told I was realted to him, and am looking for a way to obtain an Idian Card. My name is Breanna Schrader, and my father is Daniel Schrader, If u happen to run across our names on any records much help would be appreciated. Thanks Breanna

by goodeagle on 2007-06-18 20:49:49

Before you jump into trying to get an indian card or such you have to know the criteria. I am Lakota from the Cheyenne River Reservation and i have relatives from Standing Rock. There are requirements that you must have. You must be at least 1/4 Lakota blood and with many of your Lakota tribes you have to have an Enrolled Parent and ties to the reservation.

by smitty911 on 2007-06-18 23:22:32

Thanks for your comments. My task of finding my realatives has been very difficult. My great grand father is supposed to be sitting bull. I'm seeking to find documation to see if there is any truth to this. I've talked to others who also claim some realationship. Do you have any ideas?

Thanks Sue

by tokaouspa on 2007-07-24 18:01:06

LOL

I am from Standing Rock. The Grey Eagle family. All direct blood descendents are known, as are many who are claiming descendency -- some of whom are indeed related, but not descended.

From what I've read here, none of you are descended -- at least not from this (Hunkpapa) Sitting Bull. Ernie ISN'T the ONLY one descended from this bloodline, though he is indeed descended. He comes from the GreyEagle/SittingBull line though.

To assist you, though, you would have to know which wife you are descended from. And no, he did NOT have 9 wives! LOL He had 4, possibly 5, wives and all are accounted for, as are the children from these unions.

So, it shouldn't be too hard. Stories abound though. He supposedly had children when he went to Germany as well!!! (He NEVER went to Germany). Maybe some other Indian gave his name as Sitting Bull to help get a woman into the sack!

by smitty911 on 2007-07-26 00:51:52

To start out, I really appreciate your reply. I happy you find this amusing.I'm sure all this fuss is funny to you. I find it very frustrating. I have been researching for many years to find answers. I don't understand why there is so much confusion with this linage. I would of thought someone as important as Sitting Bull would have more documentation to prove his who his ansestores are. I have read many books, and each have a different accounting.

I have talked with Ernie too and he claims to be the only one as you have said. The problem I am having is I don't know which wife it could be. Especially since know one knows the true names and the number of wifes.

IS there a way I could see if my grandmother was born on Standing Rock? She was born on Feb. 1st 1900. She was orphaned at 4 or 5. So far I can find any birth records for her.

The names I have for wives are:Are they correct?

Travoriet Seen By the Nation
Light Hair
Red Woman
Snow on her
Her Four Robes
Singing

Any more help I would appreciate. I even thought about comming to standing rock to do some hands on reasearch. Would this be helpful?

Thanks,
Sue

by luckyduckys on 2007-08-26 02:31:55

Hi, I'm also one of the many of Sitting Bull's descendants. At the time of his death, he had two wives, "Four Robes" and "Pretty Plume". I also know of one wife named "Seen-by-the-Nation". I know of nine legitimate children. His eldest son was named Louis (Americanized). His two favorite children were Crow Foot and Standing Holy (son and daughter, respectively). I've heard that these two were twins (he did indeed have twins), but I am not sure if these two were twins or not. I hope this helps in any way, I'm researching as well and finding it very frustrating!

by smitty911 on 2007-08-26 13:05:41

So how are you related to Sitting Bull? It's funny you say you know of nine legitimate children. I wonder how many wives and childre he may have that arn't accounted for. This is very frustrating. I do know infact my great grandmother was a daughter, legitimate od not!
I'll keep you posted on my findings too.

by gtleader on 2007-09-04 19:44:25

My husband's aunt has traced their family tree back to the Bull family. Could you tell me if Sitting Bull had any brothers and if so what were their names?

by timberwolf3003 on 2007-09-09 00:45:27

smitty911,
i too have tried searching over the years for my family history, but gave up.
My grandmother was full sioux, my grandfather was 3/4 cherrokee. they both died when my mother was very young and my family doesn't like to talk about anything relating to our family history, they only say that our ancestor's were powerful and proud people, and not to look for strength in the past, but to build your own self worth. they do say though that our family blood runs deep in me, for thing's that sound strange to people for vision's and dreams i have for loved one's that come true (yes, sounds weird and freaks people out), the elder's of my family still will not tell me of my family in detail, but that they see in me of what they have heard of our ancestor's and that for the way i look over people with my action's and with my looks.
i didn't think much of it until i recently came across a supossitly picture of Sitting Bull and i have his his eye's and nose, even with the indention on the top of his nose and his chin.
with what great aunt's i have left that are now speaking up to me about the old stories, and with the picture i have found they are starting to tell me more and now i am finally able to start researching my past, to find out more.
if i am a decendant or come across the Schrieve name i'll up date you.
nice to see you started this page, it helps people work towards figureing out where they are from.

thanks.

by islandjewel on 2007-10-26 17:41:50

smitty911,

I understand and empathize with your fustration. For the last 3 years we have been researching our lineage around Sitting Bull collectively. Due to the nature and popularity of Sitting Bull, it is difficult and therefore we have decided to go about another route by referring back to the documents given to us by my grandfather Jack J. McKarson.

His mother is Little Flower May Wilson-Sharp; She is the daughter of Silver Leaf Running Horse and David Wilson. She was married 3 times and it resulted in carrying the following names:

McKarson
Wood
Sharp

My goal is to obtain an accurate research and determination of our lineage.

I am sure many of you will agree that there are characteristics that have been inherited and have little knowledge or questions that could be answered just by knowing your truth.

Thanks.

by islandjewel on 2007-10-26 17:57:42

smitty911,

Just to add a little more information and to be as accurate as my documents, here is what I have...

Born Little Flower May Virginia Wilson - Sharp

add: (McKarson, Wood - she was married 3x)

Father: Charles David Wilson




Grandfather: Running Horse from Pine Ridge, South Dakota

Mother: Silver Leaf Running Horse
(born of

by jaydee112233 on 2007-11-04 16:53:25

really appreciate this trail. I'm keen to learn more about the decendants or rather where I can find any documentation on line about the decendants and relations of both Sitting Bull as well as Red Cloud.
Any pointers would be much appreciated!

by earthw7 on 2007-11-09 11:17:40

Please understand that none of these names are related to Sitting Bull. Alice Ruth Ann Schrieve, Teyet Ramar also known as Chief White feather, Travoriet,Singing ,Pretty Plume,Bull family,Little Flower May Wilson-Sharp,Silver Leaf Running Horse,David Wilson,Running Horse from Pine Ridge, South Dakota, are not related to Sitting Bull in anyway.

The tribe know by their people and we keep our own records which are not for pulic viewing.
We also know that ythere was seven Sitting Bull's living at the time of our Hunkpapa Sitting Bull who were from different reservation, there is even a cherokee Sitting Bull who is NOT RELATED to us.

The complete Sitting Bull descendant was completed by in the early ninties by tokaouspa who is a REAL in-law to Sitting Bull.

"Louis" was not the son of Sitting Bull and his father was Bear Louse who was married to a Grey Eagle sister it was his step-son.

"Crow Foot and Standing Holy I've heard that these two were twins (he did indeed have twins)",
These two had different mothers so could not be twin and plus they are five years apart. Crowfoot died with his Father and Standing Holy is Ernoie LaPoints great great grandma.

We have all his wives account for and their deaths none left the area except for the Grey Eagle sister and they moved to Pine Ridge.
conatct me at the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe.
earthw7@yahoo.com

by stcy_taylor on 2007-11-13 22:41:49

I am told that my fathers great grandpa is Chief Sitting Bull, Its been told to each generation. My fathers father is supose to be one of Chief Sitting Bulls daughters child. My father couldn't remember her name because she killed herself when her son was little. My father never met his grandmother and even forgot her name. Everyone else to ask more information is deseased. What we do know is that she married my dads grandfather whos name is Richard Leory. He was born in 1865.
He was from Ireland. He died in San Fransico. We were told they were married on the Rose Bud reservation.HELLP!!!!!!!!

by earthw7 on 2007-11-14 15:35:29

Stc taylor
all of Sitting bull family have been identify and none of his family killed themselves. None of Sitting bull's daughter marred a white man
one daughter died 1881 and the other died in 1887
one who lived is Ernie Lapoint's great grandmother

by tgardner on 2007-11-24 10:38:18

I have been told this as well. I am trying to put some relavance on this subject for myself. I have some family members who have some information that I am trying to get my hands on that suppossedly have documentation of this. I will update with this information as soon as I get it.

by tgardner on 2007-11-24 10:47:47

I also think this was a direct descendant of his bloodline. My grandmothers ashes were spread on a reservation in 1985 when she had passed away. My uncles took her there and had met with several members of the tribe not sure of the details but he had gotten some of the information there. I will keep posting as well as sharing my info as I obtain it.

by beauty10 on 2007-11-28 20:43:38

My father told me that I am a great great great grandaughter of Sitting bull I am trying to find out anything I can as well. He didnt know alot... unfortunately.

by beauty10 on 2007-11-28 20:45:08

except that we are from south dakota.

by Oglala_Shortie on 2007-12-18 09:24:36

Hey what do you know we are all related to Sitting Bull. I have been trying to do some research but it is really hard. It would help if i knew your names then i could go from there. I am the great great grand daughter. My name is Christina Little Spotted Horse.

by kriza on 2008-01-03 03:33:46

in sixth grade ( three years ago ) we done reserch on native americans , i choose sitten bull ,even though at the time i had no idea whom he was. i came home to my mommy and daddy and told them about my project. they were so suprised i picked him . they told me i am related to him from my mom's side we done two months of reserch and sure enough i'm one of the many great great grandaughters of him.

by moquin on 2008-02-26 20:01:08

sitting bull is my great great great grandfather

by smitty911 on 2008-02-27 17:43:59

Kriza.....tell me about yoour research. What exactually did you do to substanciate your findings?

by welbus on 2008-03-07 15:58:04

We also have a family history of being related to Sitting Bull....again, a story handed down.

We have the Indian Census Roll stating that we are part of the mdewakanton sioux.

Decendants names are:
Catherine Christina Scholastica Moran
Marie|Louisa Angelique Skaya

rmm

by Jandishon on 2008-03-14 15:16:45

In April of 2007 I found a tombstone located in the Tombstone Cemtery, Tombstone, Cochise Co., AZ which says: Alice Brees
M. Sitting Bull

I have a photo of this tombstone.

by Oglala_Shortie on 2008-03-20 10:15:22

I found sorta a family tree of Sitting Bull on the internet and i found my family name on there. So now I proof. I saw a lot of other names too.

by smitty911 on 2008-03-20 20:45:54

Shortie would you please share your research? Where did you find this family tree? Was it on roots web? What is your family name? There are many of us here who need some clues and direction. Please help.

Smitty

by camarokid on 2008-04-02 23:12:54

my great great great grandmother was one of sitting bulls wives, suposedly thats what my grandfather told me. My last name is Baird

by camarokid on 2008-04-02 23:17:49

oh and my grandfathers name is Milton Baird

by smitty911 on 2008-04-03 00:30:07

I have decided to do some DNA testing on this line. I have some hair samples from my father who is Sitting Bull's great grandson, as his mother was Sitting Bull's grand daughter. I am told DNA can trace the linage right down to the tribe. Does anyone have any other info on DNA testing?

by welbus on 2008-04-05 08:48:57

I found out that it was NOT Siting Bull, it was Little Cow.

by Oglala_Shortie on 2008-04-07 14:11:15

I can't find the tree but it is somewhere on the internet. My family name is LITTLE SPOTTED HORSE but in the tree it just has SPOTTED HORSE but i know it is my family because it has my grandpa's name and my uncle's name. I think that my grandpa was one of Four Robe's grandsons. And somehow Angelique Little Spotted Horse has something to do with it. Oh yeah I got his hair. It is really thick and dark. My aunties are the Little Spotted Horse's that were posted over the internet. I guess I am kinda famous. It feels wierd.

by Oglala_Shortie on 2008-04-07 14:14:23

oh yeah i am related to Ernie Lapointe. He is my uncle and Marlene and Ethel Little SPotted Horse are my aunties. My name is Christina Little Spotted Horse. My parents are Chris Martin and Helene Little Spotted Horse and my grandpa is Allison Little Spotted HOrse Sr.

by Oglala_Shortie on 2008-04-07 14:16:28

oh Yeah and I am from the Oglala Sioux Tribe and I live in Oglala. That is where the Little Spotted Horse's lived at least since my mom was a little girl

by smitty911 on 2008-04-07 23:44:41

Well Christina,

It is really great to hear from you. You are difinatelly one of the lucky ones on this site. Most of us here only have stories and very few clues......I really appreciate your information. Who knows, somehow we may be connected some how. I have talked with Earnie a while back. In my faith we take family history seriously. It has been very frustrating to keep running into dead ends,but I am going to keep researching till I find the connection. I believe Sitting Bull was my great great grandfather. Oh and I did find athe family tree you were talking about. Thanks

by Oglala_Shortie on 2008-04-10 17:03:39

Your welcome. I we are sitting Bull's descendant then we got to be related...

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