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KNOPP family from Grays, Essex to Australia

Journal by margarms

It was in the year of 1857 the James and Sophia KNOPP [nee CLAY, daughter of William and Mary CLAY of Purfleet West, Eng.] arrived in Melbourne on the Ship "Grand Trianon" with their two children Emma [b.1853 Little Thurrock] and James [b.1854 Little Thurrock]. Their address in the 1851 Census had been 44 Lime Kiln, Grays Essex.

They settled in Pentridge with their address in 1902 being 3 Reynard Road, Coburg Victoria. Pentridge was the original name of Coburg, but after Pentridge Prison was built the people of the village did not wish to be associated with the prison and agreed to change the name. James and Sophia had a total of eight children with a further four girls and two boys being born between 1857 and 1872. These Australian born children were
Mary Ann[b. 1857 at Brunswick, Vic m.William Galbraith REID in 1874 in Coburg];
William [b. 1859 at Pentridge, Vic d. 1914 East Melbourne, Vic m.26/1/1885 to Jessie Elizabeth TAYLOR b. Fitzroy, Vic 5/9/1864 d. Flowerdale, Vic 1907 and buried at Yea cemetery];
Charles [b. 1861 at Brunswick d. 1959 at North Melbourne m. 25/1/1881 at Fitzroy to Mary Catherine Violet KIRWIN b. 1863 d. 1935 at Fairfield, Vic];
Sarah Jane [b. 1866 at Brunswick, Vic];
Florence [b. 1869 at Pentridge, Vic m. to Charles TONKIN in 1891 at Coburg, Vic]; and
Sophia Lydia [b.1872 at Coburg, Vic d. 1956 at Melbourne, Vic. and buried 3/3/1956 at Fawkner Cemetery m. 1898 at Moreland, Vic to Robert Andrew McINTOSH b.1862 at Northcote, Vic d. 1949 at Glen Iris, Vic]
The two born in England, they being Emma Clara [b.1853 at Grays, Essex d. 16/3/1914 in Melbourne m. 1871 in Melbourne to William HAY b. 1847 Sydney NSW (St. James Parish records) d. 1944]. Emma had a daughter Eleanor Clara KNOPP in 1870 to unknown father.
James [b. 1854 in Grays, Essex d.1927].
As William was my great grandfather I will continue with him and his life in my next journal.

Surnames: HAY KIRWIN KNOPP McINTOSH REID TAYLOR TONKIN
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on 2011-02-26 01:29:43

margarms , from Lakes Entrance, Victoria, Australia, has been a Family Tree Circles member since Feb 2011. is researching the following names: KNOPP, VALE, NEATE and 8 other(s).

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by edmondsallan on 2011-02-26 03:04:50

excellent . thank you - regards

by margarms on 2011-02-26 05:35:47

Thank you edmondsallen for your positive comments.
regards Marg

by Aussie1947 on 2011-02-26 07:15:31

Nice story on an early Victorian family.

I see from the 1868 Melbourne Directory listed under Quarrymen there was James Knopp, Sydney-road Pent.

Gerry

by margarms on 2011-02-26 07:29:04

Thank you Gerry, that would be him as he was a quarryman in the lime kilns in Grays, Essex before coming to Australia.
Previous to James and Sophia's story I had written the story of his parents and siblings. (about 4 days ago)
Kind regards Marg

by Jimlocker on 2013-07-10 21:38:32

My grandfather Walter Knopp was born in South Ockendon, Essex, England in 1885 and was killed in Belgium oct 13 1914. Given that Knopp is an unusual surname in England and the fact that he was born in the Thurrock area of Essex I can only assume we are descended through the same Knopp lineage. Walter 's father's name was Isaac Knopp.

by kingo on 2013-07-22 04:36:58

iF ANY HELP aUGUST kNOPP WAS BORN IN gERNMANY IN 1841 AND DIED IN tASMANIA IN 908
hE MARRIED fREDERIKA tOMKEIGH WHO WAS BORN IN 1842 AND DIED IN 1910

cHILDREN WERE hILDA 1861, bERTHA 1863, aLBERT 1866, gEORGE 1873, eMMA 1876 cARL 1878,fR ANZ 1889M ELIZABETH 1882 AND FINALY ARTHUR 1885

by margarms on 2013-10-27 01:14:00

All our KNOPP family were from Essex in England, but thank you Kingo. :)

by margarms on 2013-10-27 01:18:25

Hi Jim.
Firstly, my apologises for the delay in reply to your message but as my husband, who had been very ill for over 12 months, passed away in July, today is the first day I have opened my genealogy and found your message.

Issac Knopp was the brother of my ggggrandfather William KNOPP b. 1796 and died in Utah USA in Provo Valley in 1877 but have no further information on Issac. His parents names were James KNOPP 1754 - 1826 and Sarah UNKNOWN 1755 - 1841.

I am not sure how much KNOPP history you have but I have been researching that side of the family for years. There are a couple of KNOPP families in England that I have had contact with and will try to find their email addresses.

The son of William & Jane KNOPP, James b. 1826 in Grays Essex married Sophia Lydia CLAY in 1851. James and Sophia immigrated to Australia in May 1857 on the Grand Trion at the age of 29 along with son James aged 1 yr and daughter Emma ages 3 yrs
Address taken from 1851 Census was 44 Lime Kilns Grays Essex

This is the family I am descended from and while there is quite a large family of Knopps from this line, there is also another Knopp family in Victoria who are not related, making research of a relatively uncommon name difficult.

Love to hear again as to where you live and any connections you may be able to make.
Kind regards Marg

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