LAZARUS RAISED SOME HERITAGE STUDY ERRORS: TULLAMARINE, VIC., AUST.
Samuel Lazarus, who registered the death of Sidney Jim (buried in the Will Will Rook cemetery) was the second teacher, after John Cassidy, at the Seafield National School in Tullamarine,according to the Historic site assessment below,which quoted my journals extensively (although itellya did not exist until 2011) and has so many mistakes that I'll have to write a journal to correct them.
Historic Sites Assessment - Department of the Environment
May 2, 2014 - The Tullamarine area was settled early in Melbourne's history with ...... The first teacher was J. Cassidy followed by Samuel and Fanny Lazarus ...
One mistake that should not have happened was the continuation of the mistaken belief that the second Victoria Bank was in Mansfields Rd. The second Victoria Bank was established by Angus McNab on about 93 acres (part 13A, Tullamarine,previously occupied by Agnes?-Ritchie) fronting the north side of Barbiston Rd. Much later it was subdivided into blocks of about 10 acres, one of these amusingly called THISTLEDOME. This name had me baffled me for a while until I twigged that it meant-This will do me! When I interviewed Mrs Shaw at the homestead that Angus McNab had built,the house had been renamed ROSEBANK. The Mansfield homestead on the south side of Mansfields Rd has always been called ROSELEIGH so you'll see how confusion of ROSEBANK and ROSELEIGH caused the mistaken conclusion that the second Victoria Bank was in Mansfields Rd and owned by the Mansfields.
A history is only as good as its sources. Heritage studies are often used as sources. I have notified several councils of errors in their studies but I have been told that once a study has been accepted it can't be changed. Simon Lloyd, a great loss to Mornington Peninsula Shire, fortunately saw it differently and referred perpetuated errors re Edward Jones' Spring Farm at Moorooduc to the study's author,along with my evidence. Hume Council did not correct the error of calling Roseleigh the second Victoria Bank or notify Gary Vines, the author of the above study, which I will examine page by page. You will need to download the study.
Historic Sites Assessment - Department of the Environment
P.iii. Cultural Heritage Assessment Results.
A number of early farms date from the early 1850's including the McNab brothers' Seafield, Oak Bank and Victoria Bank should read:
..........from 1848,when they were settled (Victoria and its Metropolis,Keith McNab,Newspaper article about THE CLAN MCNAB circa 1960), including John Grant's "Seafield" and the McNab brothers' Victoria Bank and Oakbank to the south
P. iv. 2nd dot point should be Roseleigh,Mansfields Rd. (It is NOT the second Victoria Bank.)
P. 13. No error but it could be mentioned that the Ritchie's Ruin site on 12B is on a farm known to the late Bob Blackwell and Ed Fanning of Sunnyside as "Overpostle". It included some 11B land as well.(Bulla rates,title documents.)
Hermes No. 11985. To provide access to the recent Arundel Closer Settlement from Keilor Rd in 1906,a contract was let for the trestle bridge but a flood washed away the partly completed bridge, ruining the contractor. A new contractor finally built the bridge which opened early in 1907,too late for William John Mansfield and his 6 year old son, William John, who had drowned trying to cross Bertram's ford.
The construction of a bridge over the Saltwater River, which was to provide communication between the Arundel Estate and the township of Keilor, was in progress when the floods of last September came and washed away a considerable portion of the structure.After experiencing considerable difficulty,the Keilor Shire Council let
another contract, and this has now been satisfactorily settled etc. (P.18, Argus, 14-9-1907.)The bridge was about 20 metres east of Bertram's ford on Milburn land and was sometimes called Milburn's Bridge. (P.3, Sunbury News, 17-8-1907, Correspondence.)
Hermes No.8734. The location is vague but this could be the quarry from which Dewar's Metal was extracted in about 1863. (Source noted on trove and remembered because Grant's Lane was so-named so early. The newly formed Keilor Road Board had requested Broadmeadows Road Board to use Dewar's metal on Grant's Lane. Source not found, probably because of poor digitisation of key words.)
Hermes No. 8736. Delisted site 09/12/2009. Ford, with basalt floaters, across Moonee Ponds Creek between original Portion 15 and Portion 7 (Yuroke). Could date 1842- late 1860s, when these portions were purchased respectively. It should read "portion 7, Will Will Rook".
The ford would have been to get from one farm to another rather than a creek crossing on a road. The two farms would have been Glendewar on section 15 and Cumberland (the whole of section 7 WILL WILL ROOK . The only known connection between the two farms is the Johnson family of Glendewar which moved to Cumberland (obviously after the death of Alexander McCracken circa 1915)most likely in about 1920 and later returned to Glendewar, probably because the beautiful Cumberland homestead was burnt down (in 1927?) They built a new homestead on Glendewar. (Johnson descendant who wrote Seeds of Time and another book available for perusal at Woodlands Homestead;Keith Brown?)
D7822-0201 8841 Glen Alice Homestead
Concrete footings and slabs of outbuildings related to Glenalice homestead. Homestead itself appears to have
been destroyed during runway and service road construction.
Former Sect. 14. Perimeter Rd on Nth side of present E-W runway
Comment. This should be the southern (Fawkner) half of 13A.
D7822-0209 10403 Larundel Orchard Earth Mound
Small rectangular earth mound measuring 6.4 x 5.1 metres Overnewton Rd, Kingsbury
Comment. I presume Kingsbury was supposed to be Keilor. The only Overnewton Rd in my 1999 Melway is at Keilor. I could find no mention on trove of a Larundel Orchard at Keilor, nor an Arundel Orchard. William Taylor probably owned Arundel for about two decades before it was resumed for the Arundel Closer Settlement and may have had a ford to get across the river to Arundel. It is also possible that a heritage place card for the Kingsbury area,about an orchard associated with the Larundel Mental Institution just past Kingsbury, was accidentally filed under Keilor,but why would it have Overnewton Rd on it? A google search for "Overnewton Rd, Kingsbury" produced only one result,namely:
larundel orchard earth mound - Victorian Heritage Database
Location. OVERNEWTON ROAD KINGSBURY, DAREBIN CITY. Google Maps and Google Streetview. Heritage Inventory (HI) Number. D7922-0209. This states the location as DAREBIN, so the orchard obviously was associated with the mental institution near Kingsbury. What a tangled mess!
THIS IS WHAT I'D DO IF I WAS IN CHARGE OF HERITAGE VICTORIA. I WOULD REQUIRE A MELWAY REFERENCE FOR EVERY HERITAGE SITE,IF IT IS WITHIN THE AREA COVERED BY 8CM TO THE MILE MAPS. IF IT IS AN ENTIRE FARM WITHIN THAT MAP AREA OR OUTSIDE THAT AREA, IT IS TO BE SHOWN ON A PARISH MAP. IF IT IS A HOUSE BLOCK IN THE MELWAY AREA,A STREET ADDRESS IS TO BE GIVEN, WHICH SEEMS TO BE THE CURRENT PRACTICE AND THIS COULD APPLY ALSO TO COUNTRY AREAS IF ADDRESSES EXIST. IF A MELWAY REFERENCE HAD BEEN GIVEN FOR THE LARUNDEL ORCHARD OR ITS POSITION HAD TO BE DESCRIBED AS, CROWN ALLOTMENT, PARISH, SUCH A CLANGER WOULD NEVER HAD HAPPENED!
TO INDICATE FAIRLY ACCURATELY SMALL OBJECTS IN A LARGE AREA(HOUSE,SCHOOL,DAM,ORCHARD, QUARRY,BRIDGE ON CLOSED ROAD ETC.) OR IN FARMING AREAS OUTSIDE THE MELWAY AREA, PARISH MAPS WOULD BE USED TO INDICATE LOCATIONS. THEY WOULD HAVE GRIDS SUPERIMPOSED ON THEM. I'D SUGGEST 400 METRES X 400 METRES IN ACTUAL MEASUREMENT OR IF THE SAME SCALE WAS USED AS IN MELWAY MAPS 3+, 2CM X 2CM. THE GRID LINES WOULD BE MAGNETIC NORTH SOUTH AND EAST-WEST (PARALLEL TO CROWN ALLOTMENT BOUNDARIES) NOT TRUE NORTH AS IN MELWAY.
A STANDARDISED POLICY FOR LOCATING THE GRID LINES WOULD HAVE TO BE DETERMINED. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THEY BE MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL ROADS FORMING CROWN ALLOTMENT BOUNDARIES THAT STILL EXIST AND RUN (MAGNETIC) NORTH-SOUTH OR EAST-WEST, FOR EXAMPLE IN THE PARISH OF TULLAMARINE, BROADMEADOWS/ MICKLEHAM RD AND SHARPS RD. THUS AT EVERY 400 METRES OF DISTANCE EAST AND WEST OF BROADMEADOWS RD,THERE WOULD BE A (NEAR) VERTICAL LINE AND EVERY 400 METRES OF DISTANCE NORTH OF SHARPS RD, THERE WOULD BE A HORIZONTAL LINE. WHERE CREEKS ARE PARISH BOUNDARIES, THERE WILL ONLY BE PARTIAL SQUARES ADJOINING THEM BUT THAT IS NOT A PROBLEM IF THE PARISH MAP IS SCALED AT 8CM TO THE MILE BECAUSE EVERY MILLIMETRE ON THE MAP INDICATES A CHAIN OR 20 METRES.
Naming of the grid squares would be as in Melway with the westernmost partial column of (probably partial) squares being labelled A, the next B and so on. The northernmost row of squares (or partial squares) would be labelled 1. In this way, a square mile would be divided into 16 small squares. Thus the Seafield National school site on Grants Rd could be (this is only an estimate) Section 8 Tullamarine, J 8. Each grid square could be divided into nine smaller squares named north west, north centre,north east;west centre,centre, east centre; south west,south centre and south west. Thus the school site could be described as (an estimate):
Section 8, Tullamarine, J8 n.w. Now the area in which to locate the heritage site measures only 132 x 132 metres instead of 400 x 400 metres ( whole grid squares.) Incidentally Mr Melway made his grids exactly the same size as I suggested but because Melway north is true north and parish maps use magnetic north,it is impossible to describe the location of a farm accurately with a Melway reference.
Instead of the above, G.P.S. co-ordinates could be given. Preferably both descriptions could be used as a fail-safe procedure so we know whether the heritage site under discussion is likely to become part of Melbourne Airport OR NEAR KINGSBURY!
Victoria Rd Homestead (H 7822-0352). Victoria Rd may have been so-named on a plan of John Carre Riddell's Camiestown Estate but appeared on every road directory I've ever seen as Victoria St until the freeway was built and the part south of it was called Greenhill St and the southern part of Wright St was called Springbank St. Tullamarine old timers called Victoria St NASH'S LANE because of Charles Nash's farm, FAIRVIEW, which fronted its eastern side. Part of Mercer Drive leading to the taxi holding area is on part of the closed Greenhill St. Victoria Rd homestead should properly be called FAIRVIEW HOMESTEAD.
Google "Victoria Road Homestead, Tardis". (They quoted itellya but didn't call him that.)
Wright St homestead ruins are most likely the remains of the "Sunnyside" homestead built by Wallis Wright and owned from 1923 by William Heaps. This farm is discussed in the Tardis archeological survey re the Victoria Rd homestead.
H7822-2308 185972 Oaklands Road paving
Area of paving beneath boxthorn bush, handmade bricks, surface scatter of ceramics and glass.
Cnr of Oaklands and Somerton Rds .
The fault here would lie with the heritage place card. I might be able to shed some light on the origin of the relics if I knew which corner they are on. Surely north west,south west,north east or south east could have been inserted in front of "corner". If it was the N.E. corner,the paving could be connected with implement manufacturer James Musgrove or later Percy Bockholt's shearing depot.
Page 16. Annandale Homestead ruins (H7822-2322.) The government resumed section 1 (Arundel) and part of section 2 (Annandale)in about 1906 to establish the Arundel Closer Settlement. George Annand was the grantee of section 2 and seemed to have sold it to William Taylor. It also seemed to be leased to local farmers*,probably for grazing and it is doubtful that a house was built on section 2 before 1906.
*TO LET, 640 acres of LAND, known as Annandale,parish of Tullamarine, near Keilor, and recently in the occupation of Edward Wilson, Esq., Arundel.(etc.)(P.8,Argus,15-7-1869.)
Cr Bill Parr bought the north eastern part of Annandale,retaining that name for his farm.He was living there by 1918 when his mother,known to all as Ma Parr, died.
PARR.-The Friends of Mr. JAMES H. PARR are respectfully invited to follow the remains of his dearly beloved wife, Emily, to the place of interment, the Bulla Cemetery.
The funeral will leave the residence of her son,William, Annandale road, Tullamarine, TO-DAY (Wednesday, 17th July), at 2 o'clock. (P. 1, Argus,17-7-1918.)
From what I remember the house was red brick with a walled verandah to about chest height and concrete pillars from there supporting the verandah roof. The homestead was located near the top right corner of Melway 15 D2. The Keilor rates of 1913 show that Bill Parr was assessed on 165 acres of section 2, and Thomas and Arthur Nash another 165 acres of section 2 east of the closer settlement,the boundary between their farms possibly being the future route of South Centre Rd, which could be confirmed on the airport acquisition map circa 1960. Bill's 165 acre farm adjoined his father's The Elms (originally Elm Farm)in Bulla Rd, through which the north-south section of Link Rd now runs, which Bill's brother,the whiskerless Sam, inherited.
Glenview homestead (H 7822-2323) has been demolished,probably because Johnny Fenton died. He bought Glenview from my great uncle, Alf Cock, and renamed it Dunnawalla. If it had not been for John supplying me with a list of ten Tullamarine oldtimers,there would never have been an itellya. After airport acquisition,John was allowed to lease all of Dunnawalla apart from the radio tower area.The homestead was only a few metres east of the long hill climb eastwards up Annandale Rd from the creek (Melway 15 A or B1.)
£19,000 FOR 252 ACRES
MELBOURNE. A 252-acre farm at Tullamarine, only 10 miles from Melbourne, has been sold for nearly £19,000.
The property, Glenview, was used by the vendor, Mr. A. Cocks (sic), for fattening lambs and wool growing, but he also won prizes at the Royal Melbourne Show with wheat and oats grown there.The purchaser, Mr.J. H. Fenton, will use it for grazing. (The Farmer and Settler (Sydney, NSW : 1906 - 1957) Friday 24 June 1955 p 34 Article)
Glenview consisted of lot 10 of the closer settlement,nearly 115 acres, and about 137 acres to the south in section 20 Doutta Galla.
PAGE 19. Historic Background.
Paragraph 3. OH DEAR!
The study states:
In 1834 John Batman, a grazier and businessmen, arrived in Port Phillip from Van Diemens Land.
The Australian Dictionary of Biography states:
On 1 May 1835 Batman gave Gellibrand a zero date for departure, and asked for the draft of a treaty with the Port Phillip natives. On 15 May the press published his intention; on 13 June it announced his triumphant return.
The study states:
With John Pascoe Fawkner, Batman formed the Port Philip Association to legitimise land claims in the district (Calder, 2002).
Calder needs to read C.P.Billot's THE LIFE AND TIMES OF JOHN PASCOE FAWKNER. The aims of Batman and Fawkner were completely opposed, the former aiming to establish a pastoral empire and the latter a settlement.
If Batman had said that snow was white,
Fawkner would have said, "No, black!" out of spite.
Fawkner was certainly not a member of the Port Phillip Association!
A source for Alexander Kennedy building the Inverness Hotel in the 1850's is I.W.Symonds' BULLA BULLA.
In case detail is required,this might be better:
THE INVERNESS HOTEL(1853-1964) AND ITS PENNY POLE, NEAR TULLAMARINE, VIC., AUST. (with background notes.) AND FRANKLINFORD.
Figure 2 is supposed to be a map of squatters' runs but is simply a composite map showing portions of the parishes of Maribyrnong, Tullamarine,Jika Jika(J.P.Fawkner), Will Will Rook, Bulla (Brodie,Wright, Greene*) and Yuroke. Those named on the map indicate their grants. The Brodies were squatters all right, until the parishes were surveyed, at which time they could buy as much of their former run as they liked (in competition with other buyers) and lease their pre-emptive right (usually a 640 acre homestead block) until they were ready to buy it(without competition) or failed to pay the yearly fee. None of the others named had been squatters in the area although Fawkner, the great opponent of the Squattocracy had leased the Monjetta? run, until the 1843 bust, which gave Monagetta its name. (Symonds or Richard Broome's BETWEEN TWO CREEKS?)
*Ann Greene's name is written on 2C Yuroke, subdivided by Machell in the early 1850's, and bounded by Section, Somerton and Mickleham Roads and Swain St on the south. It should be on section 2, Bulla, south of William (Tulip)Wright's section 3.
The study states, at the start of the last paragraph on page 20:
Section 1, south of the present study area, was known as Arundel when occupied by the Bertrams, and later
Glengyle Estate when the Guthries lived there.
Comment. Section 1 was originally called the Glengyle Estate. The Guthries called it Glengyle and Thomas Bertram later used this name for their portion near Bertram's Ford before changing it to Ellengowen. See the proof of this in newspaper articles in my journal:
HOW GLENGYLE, KEILOR (SECTION 1,TULLAMARINE) BECAME ARUNDEL, "TURNER'S" AND ELLENGOWAN. (VIC., AUST.)
The study states:
. Sections 6 and 15 (the latter overlaps the north-eastern extent of the present study area slightly, the former is east of the south-eastern corner) were granted to John Carre Riddell; the part which fronted present day Mickelham Road north of Londrew Court (probably Section 6) © Biosis2013 Leaders in Ecology and Heritage Consulting 21 became known as Chandos (later when owned by Wright it was known as Strathconnan, then Springburn when owned by Lockhart, and later Chandos when owned by Judd). Bamford built his timber house here. Riddell later swapped this land with Fawkner (Itellya, 1998)
Riddell sold "Chandos" to John Peter very early (Volume 170 folio 2). The Peter family (which also owned Overpostle on Tullamarine Island for some time)leased Chandos out to local farmers for many decades until early in the 20th century. It is possible that Peter had lived on the property for a while. The late Colin Williams told me that the Tullamarine kids used to swim at a waterhole called the bone mill which was at the north end of Wright St and owed its name to a bone mill (producing lime for mortar or to break up the clay soil of the area?)established by Charles and John Nash. The late Jack Hoctor told me that the Broadmeadows Township kids used to swim at Peterson's Hole on Chandos. As lengthy research find to find any connection between PETERSON and CHANDOS, I believe the name of the latter hole morphed from Peter's son's hole.
Chandos was bounded on the south by the boundary between sections 3 and 6 Tullamarine which is best seen as the northern boundary of Trade Park Industrial Estate (Melway 5 G-H 11) but near the road to Broadmeadows Township (Mickleham Rd)is the mid line between Londrew Court and Freight Rd. The south west boundary was the n.w.-s.e. part of Derby St to Wright St (the western boundary),the northern boundary was the Moonee Ponds Creek and the eastern boundary was the unmade Hackett St of Broadmeadows Township to Fawkner St and then Old Broadmeadows Rd.
The above passage from the study gives the impression that the whole 466 or so acre Chandos was owned in turn by Wright,then Lockhart,then Judd. The reality is that Chandos became three farms occupied simultaneously by the three families for many years as shown by Broadmeadows Shire assessments and the following trove results in italics.
The northern 123 acre farm was Percy Judd's Chandos Park which went south to the south end of Pelican Court which indicates the boundary between section 15 and 6. For some unknown reason the boundary went west for 1668 links (about 334 metres) and, after a shot dogleg north west,the remaining 3384 links to Wright St.
Auctioneers etc.Phone: 202 Ascot. PERCY H. JUDD ESTATE SALESMAN- INSURANCE EXPERT UNION ROAD, ASCOT VALE
Opposite Post Office. And "Chandos Park,' BROADMEADOWS. (P.2,Flemington Spectator,28-2-1918)
JUDD. On the 24th October, 1933 (suddenly),at her residence, 40 Maribyrnong road, Moonee Ponds, Maria Ann, beloved wife of Charles Henry Judd, and loved mother of Percy and mother-in- law of Ruby, fond grandma of Bob, Allan, and Heather, of Challos* Park, Broadmeadows, aged 74 years. (P.1,Argus,25-10-1933.)
The middle portion,consisting of 198 acres,was bought by Cr.John Cock (my great grand daddy)who had earlier owned or leased the whole of Chandos from the Peter Estate. This later became Cr. William Lockhart's "Springburn". Its southern boundary is indicated by the end of International Drive. The eastern end of Western Avenue was known as Lockhart's Corner.(Keith McNab.)
LOCKHART (nee Rhodes) - On the 18th August, at Llandysil, Scott street, Essendon, to Mr and Mrs F. W. Lockhart, of Springburn, Broadmeadows -a son (Both well. )(P.7, Argus,22-8-1936.)
The southern portion,consisting of 140 acres, was Frank Wright's Strathconan. Frank married Jessie Rowe who had transferred from the Holden school to Tullamarine State School 2613 at the Conders Lane (now Link Rd) corner in 1903.When they married,Mr Rogers took over the school until Alec Rasmussen arrived in 1909(during which time Colin Williams split his head open and all the pupils disappeared one hot lunchtime for a swim at the Bone Mill The late Harry Heaps wanted the subdivision street on his Bulla Rd property named to recall his former neighbour but unfortunately Strathconnan Square does not have the same spelling as that seen on trove or match Harry's pronunciation (with the long o sound.)
.-A very enjoyable evening was spent in the Tullamarine State School on September. 28th, when about eighty of the scholars and their friends assembled to say goodbye to Miss J.T.Rowe, the late head teacher, who has severed her connection with the Education Department.----- During an interval, the correspondent of the local Board of Advice, Mr J.H.Parr, presented Miss Rowe, on behalf of the scholars and their friends,with ---- (and described Miss Rowe as a diligent,capable,and sympathetic teacher, who during the time she had been at the school-some five or six years-had won the hearts of the scholars as well as the esteem of the parents. He also
said that although sorry to lose such a good teacher they had the pleasure of knowing that Miss Rowe would
not leave the district, but as Mrs Frank Wright would still reside amongst them (Cheers). (KEILOR SHIRE NEWS
Independent (Footscray, Vic. : 1883 - 1922) Saturday 10 October 1908 p 1 Article)
WRIGHT. On the 22nd April, Frank, second son of the late Wallis and Mary Wright, Tullamarine. (Interred Bulla Cemetery, April 23.) (P.13,Argus,25-4-1936.)
The last sentence before the page 21 map states:
Bamford built his timber house here. Riddell later swapped this land with Fawkner (Itellya, 1998).
These two sentences are part of the study's discussion of Chandos so the first sentence is correct.My memory is pretty good but unfortunately my recollection of the source of the photo of William Bamford's timber house in Ashford Crescent was not correct. I thought it was in Andrew Lemon's BROADMEADOWS: A FORGOTTEN HISTORY but it must have been in Sue O'Callaghan's BROADMEADOWS HISTORY KIT which might be hard to locate. I may have accessed it at Gladstone Park High School when the most helpful Jenny Shugg was the council librarian in the shared library. (Without Jenny,Rosemary Davidson at Tullamarine and Bev Brocchi at Niddrie there would never have been an itellya.)
As I last saw the history kit a quarter of a century ago I have no idea where it is now located and will have to rely on a memory that William Bamford bought Percy Judd's Chandos Park in 1949. (I can check the Bamford entry in my DICTIONARY HISTORY OF TULLAMARINE AND MILES AROUND if anybody wants this confirmed.)
Among those noticed lunching were Mr. and Mrs. Bill Bamford, of Chandos Park, Broadmeadows; their son, John;
Mrs. Lin Stewart, Mr. and Mrs. Jack Gallagher and Mrs. J. X. O'Driscoll.(P.10,Argus, 24-8-1954.)
However,the second sentence wrongly implies that Riddell swapped Chandos with Fawkner. The parish of Tullamarine was surveyed by 1842. A descendant of E.E.Kenny told me that Melrose Drive,then known as Macedon road was surveyed in 1847. Therefore it cut through crown allotments all the way from North Melbourne to Bulla, including sections 7 (Fawkner), 6 and 15 (Riddell). Fawkner sold the north east corner of section 7 (roughly Melway 5 E-F7)to Riddell and Riddell sold the south west corner of section 6 (roughly Melway 5 F 9-10)to Fawkner. Neither of these triangles included any part of Chandos (roughly Melway 5 H-J 6-10.
FANNING OF SUNNYSIDE.
White pages show the Fannings to be still living at Sunnyside.
Fanning E J Loemans Rd, Bulla VIC 3428.
The COGHILLS also purchased Cumberland, across the Moonee Ponds Creek from sections 15 and 16 Tullamarine in the parish of Will Will Rook,most likely from the grantee,Thomas Wills. Glencairne was purchased by Walter Clark in 1856. The Clarks of Glenara had no e in their surname!
The last 4 lines before table 4 read:
. In 1856, George Coghill mortgaged his property Glencairn (northern half of Section 13A,
17B and part of Section 16) to Henry Miller (Itellya, John Pascoe Fawkner's Co-operatives North-west of
Melbourne, Vic., Australia, 2013). George Coghill's half of Section of 13A and Fawkner's Section 13A Lots 1-14
later became Glenalice, owned by George's son Walter Coghill (Itellya, 2013).
Comments. It is possible that Walter Clark bought the northern half of 13A from Henry Miller. This land was part of Glenara,not Glenalice. The last sentence should read:
Fawkner's section 13A lots mainly became the Mansfield farm, "Glenalice". Some lots adjoining section 14 were occupied by Charles Farnes,leading to the corner of McNabs and Mansfields Rds being called Farnes' Corner.
P.24-6. TABLE 4 and TABLE 5.
I can supply Biosis with a map of the Fawkner subdivision lots transposed on Melway from descriptions in countless title documents.
Page 26. William and Kezia Trotman would have moved to SPRINGFIELD crown allotment 9 o of the parish of Yuroke,not Springvale. SPRINGFIELD was on the north east corner of Mickleham and Somerton Rds and was much later split into two halves; the northern half became the Gamble family's "Brocklands" (now Aitken College and a recent housing estate) and the southern half was owned by Wal French after whom French Rd was named.
The information about William and Kezia Trotman quoted by Moloney and Johnson in 1998 probably came from Annette Davis's GREENVALE : LINKS WITH THE PAST which discussed the Trotman connection with the Greenvale Primitive Methodist Church in some detail. Their mistake in calling it Springvale is yet another example of a mistake in heritage studies not being corrected and thus being perpetuated as gospel.
N.B.1. Annette Davis now has a new surname under which she has been quoted in relation to this history.
2. Annette wrongly showed John Lavars' Greenvale Hotel on the north east corner of Somerton and Mickleham Rds. It was actually on the south west corner,not on Springfield.
The next paragraph discussed GLENALICE and states:
The Glenalice homestead was constructed in bichrome brick and located west of the present east-west
runway; it was sold in 1939 for a poor price and is thought to have been demolished around 1965 (Itellya,
2013). The Roseleigh homestead owned by Ernest Coghill****, Walter's brother, was situated on the south side of
Mansfield Road in Section 13B.
Glenalice,like many new farm homesteads (such as the Crotty family's second Broomfield homestead on the site of the Honda riding school in Sharps Rd)was built with forfeited deposits and part payments from speculators. Glenalice was inherited by Walter Mansfield, son of David Mansfield. Roseleigh,on the south side of Mansfields Rd (which I will remind you was NOT the second Victoria Bank)was inherited by Ernest Mansfield brother of Walter Mansfield. Walter and Ernest are wrongly assumed to be members of the Coghill family in the passage quoted above. (Joe Crotty,Keilor Rates,THE DAVID MANSFIELD STORY by Neil Hamilton Mansfield.)
PAGES 26-7. TABLE 6.
A map showing Fawkner's section 6 and 7 subdivision lots transposed onto Melway will be supplied if requested.
The study states:
The Mansfields went on to buy most of the blocks on either side of Mansfield Road, including most of Fawkner's subdivision lots and Coghills property, purchased by David Mansfield (Itellya, 1998) (Itellya, 2013).
Comment. The Coghill northern half of 13A was always part of Glenara and was never bought by the Mansfields!
The study states:
. In 1891, David Mansfield sold two properties of 343 and 320 acres to M. Herman, who was listed as the owner (nobody-else was listed as occupant, Error! Reference source not found.)
Another source states that the Roseleigh cottage (also known as the second Victoria Bank), on the south side of
Mansfield Road in Section 13B, was probably built 15 or more years after the property was settled by the
Mansfield family rather than by Ernest Coghill.
Neil Mansfield had wrongly assumed in THE DAVID MANSFIELD STORY that David had owned Gowrie Park (section 14, parish of Tullamarine.) I sent him an email to convince him that this was not so containing much information from shire of Bulla rates. I most likely included this special year by year research in a new journal about David Mansfield and that was probably the reference source not found.
Not all parish maps show grantees and one shows Gowrie Park as being owned by Marks Herman as well as many sections up Oaklands Rd being labelled GLENARA ESTATE (such as section 8, "Dunalister", named after young Alister Clark, which was renamed Balbethan and today is partly the Oaklands Junction quarry.)
The "other source" that wrongly called "Roseleigh" the second Victoria Bank was a heritage study for the City of Hume on the part of the municipality that was "the former shire of Bulla". To give credit to Gary Vines,he presented this as a theory rather than a fact and realised that there was something wrong about ERNEST COGHILL. See Ernest Coghill**** at start of page 27 in the journal.
The Roseleigh homestead was built in 1870 if my memory is correct.
OTHER TULLAMARINE SUBDIVISIONS AND LANDHOLDERS.
The study states:
Kaye, Chapman and Kaye, the original purchasers of Sections 11, 12 & 13, sold Section 12B in December 1852 to brothers John, James and Malcolm Ritchie, farmers of Merri Creek. Section 12B is bounded by Deep Creek to the east and Jacksons Creek to the south, on the eastern boundary of the study area. The Mitchells went on to purchase part of Section 11B, all of 12B, and east of Deep Creek parts of Section 13A and 13B; by 1883 they had formed the 1005 acre property Aucholzie (shown in 1931 map in Figure 8).
Comments. (See bold type above.)
Section 13 should be 18B,near Glenloeman. Mitchells should be Ritchies. 13A and 13B should be 13B and 9A.
The Aucholzie homestead was still standing but decaying and unoccupied in about 1989 when I videotaped it. I suspect that my 18 hours of videotape was given to the Sam Merrifield Library. My historic 1999 Melway shows that the homestead,at the end of a 1.2 kilometre long driveway was about halfway between dead centre and the south east corner of Melway 4 D5. The driveway left McNabs Rd 480 metres south of Tower Rd.
Figure 8. All the named house are correct apart from "Victoria Bank." This should be "Roseleigh" and led to mistakes in previous heritage studies and the heritage place card. With the first column of the grid called A and the top row being 1,the two homesteads on the SECOND VICTORIA BANK are shown close together in D4 on the north corner of McNabs and Barbiston Rds.
The western one was right on the southern boundary and was probably the original Aucholzie homestead. The eastern one was called "Rosebank" in 1989,facing McNabs Rd but set a fair way back from the road behind a delightful garden featuring a large pond with a bridge across a narrow part.
Much information about(the second) Victoria Bank and its owners,such as Cornelius Percival Blom, has been supplied to the study's author.For a time the property was named "Valvee" after a racehorse by Al. Birch. Ned Courtney who had earlier had a stud in the Avondale Heights area (near Rose Creek), renamed it the Rosebank Stud. Mrs Shaw,who escorted me through the property and told me about two elderly Misses Blom visiting, had married one of Ned's jockeys.
TO BE CONTINUED.
LAZARUS, COUSER, MCNAB,GRANT,RITCHIE,COGHILL, FAWKNER, BLACKWELL, FANNING, RIDDELL,NASH,WRIGHT, HEAPS, ANNAND, PARR, COCK, FENTON, BATMAN,FAWKNER, KENNEDY, BRODIE, WRIGHT, GREENE, FANNING,COGHILL,CLARK, MANSFIELD, FARNES, TROTMAN, LAVARS,
on 2014-06-17 01:47:32
Itellya is researching local history on the Mornington Peninsula and is willing to help family historians with information about the area between Somerville and Blairgowrie. He has extensive information about Henry Gomm of Somerville, Joseph Porta (Victoria's first bellows manufacturer) and Captain Adams of Rosebud.