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Andreas Called Bath is the first Progenitor of Our Lilly Family. The above is a Lilly Family Coat of Arms of Sweden.

From "The largest scholarly work on the name was The Lilly Family, by Gustav Anjou. It was not without its parts of undocumented speculation; however, where there was documentation, the references were listed in the text. It remains to be fully proved with specific original sources. The Lilly Family, by Gustav Anjou, was a typescript of 122 pages, an ancestry of the Eli Lilly family. It contained many references to wills of the Swedish Lillie family and the wills were well documented. Wills were the trunks of all family trees. One origin of the Lillie spelling of the name was in the ancestry of the Lillie family in France, who changed the spelling to Lilli, was descended from Eric Gregersson Lillie who died in 1521, in Herrjuna, Sweden. Lillie was the Swedish spelling of name. Several descendants of the family went to America. Andreas, called Bath, made a will in 1291 A.D., in Predikarebrderna, on Lake Mler, in Sdermanland Province, Sweden (Sverige). He lived in Frberga, Ofver-Sela Socken (Parish) in Sdermanland Province. The province was southwest of Stockholm, on the east coast of Sweden.

1. ANDREAS1 was born Abt. 1291 in Sodermanland Province, Sweden. He married MARGARETHA THORDADOTTER.

Notes for ANDREAS:
From "The Name Lilly" by J.K. Lilly, Sr. written in 1942. He was Chairman of the Board, Eli Lilly and Company, Indianapolis, Indiana

"Once upon a time, a long, long time ago in the beautiful country of Sweden, a country now unfortunately so inaccessible, there resided near the city of Stockholm a gentleman by the name of Andreas. That was all the name he had as it was before the style prevailed of having family names. Andreas was also known by another name, believe it or not, of Bath, a strange selection for a nickname . . so strange and suggestive that we will forget it and use the nicer name, Andreas. Andreas' birthday and death day are unknown but it is recorded that he was living in the year 1291 - which is ancient enough for any respectable family. His place of residence was in the province of Sodermanland, a few miles west of the capital, Stockholm. The Lilly archives tell us that Andreas and his folks were good Catholics, so good that when he died he bequeathed all his property to the "Monks of Strangles Abbey." No particulars survive as to what provision was made for his wife and children. By whatever sort and kind of a wife Andreas had it is of record that he had two sons, Andreas (Jr.) and Sun Anderson, indicating that he was a son of Andreas. Can't mean anything else. This Sun Anderson is the ancestor of the Red Lilly"

From "The Lilly Papers", Indiana State Library, Indianapolis, IN
Andreas called Bath, was alive in the year 1291, when he made his will, in which he bequeathed all his property to the Monks of Strangnas Abbey, (Predikarebroderna), where he then resided, a town situated on the Lake Malar, Province Sodermanland, Sweden, a few miles west of the capital, Stockholm.
This was the most classical period of Old Sweden, between the years 1200 and 1350. The language of this period offers a number of dialects, of which only one, the Gutnic, is strictly defined. In the next period, from 1350 to the Reformation, a universal language for the whole country is distinguished. The Oxenstjerne, MSS., and Codex Bildstenianus are the chief sources of our knowledge of this period, in so far as its language is concerned. Until a little later than 1200, it did not differ very much from the Old Norse or Old Icelandic.
A trade agreement with Lubeck had been renewed in 1251, and in 1261 with Hamburg. About this time the Hanseatic League was formed between the commercial centres of North Germany, and the relations between the League and the Scandinavian countries waxed quite intimate. England, in 1237, granted the merchants of Gothland free trade privileges. In 1293, two expeditions were sent into Corilla, or Corelia, and in 1299, its savage inhabitants were made Swedish subjects.
Andreas, called Bath, was alive in 1350, exchanged in 1334 his lands with the abbess of Riseberga, Ramfred. He married Margaretha Thordadotter.

ii. SUNO ANDERSON, b. 1350, Forberga, Ofver-SelaParish, Sodermanland, Sweden.

Occupation: Nun in St. Clara 1385


The following is research and inferences by Roger G. Spurgeon Sr.
Andreus Bath, my Lilly progenitor, recorded a will in Sodermanland Province, Sweden. Sweden, Denmark and Norway are Scandinavian countries from which the Vikings or Northmen/Norse men originated. The population of these Nordic people swelled after the Roman Empire fell. Soon after the fall, around the 5th century, much of Europe's population grew and the people of Europe began migrating. The Anglos and Jutes (those from the present day Denmark) and other northern German tribes joined with the Saxons and invaded England around this time and conquered the Romanized Celts of England. These people settled the farmland of England and assimilated with the native inhabitants. The people living in Scandinavia became a seafaring people simply because of their location which was surrounded by water. Their main diet was fish, which was supplemented by barley and other produce grown on the small farms of their homeland. The Northmen, aided by their sturdy, seaworthy vessels gradually became merchants capable of sailing the coasts of Europe searching for trade.
The Vikings worshiped the warrior gods, the mighty Thor, Frey and Oden. It was an honor for the Vikings to die in battle. The brave warriors were rewarded after death by being escorted into Valhalla (the warrior's heaven) by beautiful warrior maidens (Valkyries). (page 21) Because the population of the Vikings continued to grow and the boundaries of their homelands remained the same, a change had to come. In the year 793, the change came. The Northmen began to pour out of their homelands in their serpent and dragon headed vessels harassing the coasts of Christian Europe. "To a Europe [adorned with churches as the sky with stars] all peace ended with the arrival of these bearded giants who worshipped strange gods and avidly sought glory in death rather than serenity in life. So ceaseless and fierce became their depredations that congregations throughout western Christendom prayed: [A furore Normannorum libera nos, Domine -- From the fury of the Northmen deliver us, O Lord!]" (page 8)
Though the Vikings of Sweden, Denmark and Norway originally shared the same language, they were as likely to make war upon each other as anyone else. Northmen from Norway, raided, conducted trade and settled mainly from their homeland to the Shetland Iles, to Ireland, onto Iceland, Greenland and into Vineland. The Danes raided, plundered, conducted trade and settled from their homeland along the coasts of Europe, Great Britian into the Mediterranean Sea, to Rome and Alexandria, Egypt. The Swedish main routes went across the rivers of Russia including cities of Moscow, Movgorod, Smolenks, Kiev and into the Caspian sea then to Baghdad and into the Black Sea, then to Constantinople and then Sicily and Jerusalem. The Vikings were merchants as well as warriors. They would seek out their substance as fate would dictate and would take by force, if they could not trade. They valued more than riches, a good place to settle and take up farming and raise a family. However, after the crops were in they were, more than not, apt to go a Viking leaving their wife in charge of the farm. The Vikings drank large quantities of beer and even brewed it upon their ships during a voyage. Many drank themselves to death, after eating a hearty meal.

The Wikipedia encyclopedia explains the origin of the Lilly/Lilli/Lillie name:

From 830 until around 910, the Vikings invaded Flanders. After the destruction caused by Norman and Magyar invasion, the eastern part of the region was ruled by various local princes.
The name Lille comes from insula or l'Isla, i.e., "the island", since the area was at one time marshy. This name was used for the castle of the Counts of Flanders, built on dry land in the middle of the marsh. The Dutch name for the town, Rijsel, has the same meaning ("Ryssel" in French Flemish, from "ter Yssel" meaning "to/at the island"). And our earliest known Lillie progenitor Adreaus Called Bath was a nobleman of Sodermanland, Sweden. This was located in the area of Geatland/Gotland home of the legendary folk hero King Beowolf who was thought to have possibly been King of Geatland about the 5th Century. Possibly Beowolfs family were progenitors of our Swedish progenitors.

The following is an explanation by Wikipedia of Swedish noblemen of their era:

Historical origin The nobility in Sweden and Finland dates back to 1280 when it was agreed that magnates who could afford to contribute to the cavalry with a horse-soldier were to be exempted from tax - at least from ordinary taxes - as the clergy already had been. The background was that the old system of a leiangr fleet and a king on constant travels in the realm became outmoded and in need of replacement. The crown's court and castles were now to be financed through taxes on land.

Soon it was also agreed that the king should govern the realm in cooperation with a State Council where the bishops and the most distinguished among the magnates (i.e. the most prominent contributors to the army) participated. When troublesome decisions were necessary all of the frlse was summoned to diets.

The Swedish nobility had no hereditary fiefs (ln). I.e. in case they were appointed to a castle of the crown's then their heirs couldn't claim their civil or military authority. The lands of the magnates who constituted the medieval nobility were their own and not "on lease" from a feudal king. ...and if they by own means (including the suffering of the local peasantry) build a castle, and financed its troops, then the castle was theirs but the troops of course a part of the realm's army.
Many in families allied to our Lilly family are descended from the Vikings. The Spurgeons were from Essex a county in England of which the south part of London lies. This county was settled by the Danes in the 9th century. Sporge is a Scandinavian name for a sparrow like bird. Sporge became Spurge with the "on" added to mean son of. The Rolfs are thought by some to have descended from Hrolf the Ganger, the same Danish King that William the Conqueror, King of England, descended from. The Lilly family who's lineage goes back to Andreas Called Bath born just over a century after the end of the Viking Age in Sweden is of Viking heritage. It is recorded that the Swedish and Flanders/French/English progenitors in the Lilly Family were merchants, which is in keeping with the historical stereotype of the culture. Vikings were also known to use their warrior talents as body guards and as Mercenaries. Viking culture was spread worldwide. Viking bravery, talent and loyalty was greatly respected in the Old World.

Suno Anderson

Suno Anderson

. SUNO2 ANDERSON (ANDREAS1) was born 1350 in Forberga, Ofver-SelaParish, Sodermanland, Sweden. He married MARGARETHA PORSE Abt. 1345, daughter of HOLSTEN BIRGERSON. She was born 1350 in Lagno, Sodermanland, Sweden.

From: "The Name Lilly" by J.K. Lilly, Sr. written in 1942. He was Chairman of the Board, Eli Lilly and Company, Indianapolis, Indiana

"The family archives show that this man resided in Ofver-Sela socken (parish), Sodermanland Province, Sweden. He is described as an "Armour Bearer". As to whose armor he bore and what kind, the record is silent.
In 1345 Suno Anderson married Margaretha Porse, of whom he must have been very fond for he gave her as a "Morgon-Gafva" (marriage gift) his manor at Froberga, in Ulvilda parish, on Syle, in Strangnas diocese, which he had inherited or received from his father, Andreas. Hence we see that Andreas must have taken care of his own before he "gave all his property to the Monks." Suno's wife was a daughter of Holsten Birgerson (Holsten, son of Birger). The mystery being where did Margaretha get that "Porse". Anyway they had issue and among that issue a son being named Sone Sonesson."

From "The Lilly Papers", Indiana State Library, Indianapolis, IN
Suno Anderson son of Andreas, called Bath, of Froberga, in Ofver-Sela parish, Sodermandland Province, armour-bearer 1352, married, 1345, with Margaretha Porse, to whom he gave as a marriage-gift his manor of Froberga, in Ulvilda parish, on Syle, in Strangnas dioces, which he had inherited from his father, Andreas, called Bath.

Marriage: Abt. 1345

i. SONE3 SONESSON, b. 1370, Lagno, Sodermanland, Sweden.

The following may have been the arms bore as Suno possibly allied with Bo Jonsson, from Wikipedia Enclyclopedia,:

"Arms of Sdermanland, attributed to Bo Jonsson Grip
Bo Jonsson (Grip) (early 1330s 20 August 1386) was head of the royal council and marshal under the regency of Magnus IV of Sweden. Also in the council was his friend and colleague, Karl Ulfsson av Ulvsa, eldest son of Saint Birgitta. From 1369, during Albert of Swedens reign, he was Officialis Generalis (the king's highest official) and from 1371 Lord High Steward (drots in Swedish).[1]
Bo Jonsson dominated the political life of Sweden and Finland for decades. He was the most influential representative to the council of aristocracy that deposed Magnus IV of Sweden in 1365 and installed Albrecht von Mecklenburg on the Swedish throne. His position as the new king's Officialis Generalis granted him vast fiscal and administrative control. By 1374, he had gained title to all of Finland.[2]
The family name, Grip, is Swedish for Griffin. A coat of arms showing a black griffin on a gold shield, attributed to Bo Jonsson,[3] was later adopted as the coat of arms of Sdermanland.[4] The original family arms, however, may have been Argent, a griffin's head sable, traced back to Tomas Jonsson Grip from around 1299.[4] [5]

Through inheritance and unprejudiced methods, Jonsson came to control the largest private non-royal wealth Sweden has ever seen. The lord usurped 1,500 farms in 350 parishes throughout Sweden, from Kalmar to Falun, through economic and political means. He became Sweden's (and Finland's) largest landowner ever.[1] The quantity of land under his control exceeded 1/3 of the entirety of the Swedish realm,[6] surpassing even the ruling king's national land holdings. In 1363 he was the leader of an aristocratic rebellion. He solicited support from Albert II, Duke of Mecklenburg and in 1365, he became instrumental in removing Magnus Eriksson from the Swedish throne and offering it to the Duke's son.
From the Gripsholm Castle in Mariefred, which he built,[7] Bo Jonsson governed the entire valley of Lake Mlaren, Hlsingland, all of Finland, large parts of Vstergtland, Eastern stergtland, and the Smland coast, including the city of Kalmar. He secured the Finnish fiefs as a reward for having assisted Albert to the throne of Sweden.[8]
He controlled a dozen fortresses, among which were Finnish bo Castle, Tavastehus and Viborg, Swedish Kalmar Castle and Nykping Castle, in addition to ones built under his own direction: Bjrkaholm, Ringstaholm, and his most prized holding, Gripsholm.
As the head of the governing council and through his personal usurption of large areas of the country, Jonsson indirectly curtailed the concentration of royal power as well as German and Danish influence. However, he also solicited foreign intervention from Denmark and Mecklenburg in order to instal the nobility party's puppet kings on the Swedish throne..."

Sone Sunesson

Sone Sunesson

3. SONE3 SONESSON (SUNO2 ANDERSON, ANDREAS1) was born 1370 in Lagno, Sodermanland, Sweden.

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From "The Name Lilly" by J.K. Lilly, Sr. written in 1942. He was Chairman of the Board, Eli Lilly and Company, Indianapolis, Indiana

"His name means the son of the son of somebody else. Now Sone Sonesson had an eventful life. It is recorded that in the good year 1369 he was a "Svea Rikes-Rad" interpreted to mean a member of the King's Council, or Bench. Evidently the family is coming up in the world. It was during the life of Sone Sonesson that fine old King Magnus freed all the "thralls" of Sweden.
In 1350 the "Black Death" killed one-third of the people of Sweden. Sone Sonesson escaped and lived to a good age. Those were the days before Lilly's vaccines. History does not disclose the name of the wife of Sone Sonesson but there must have been one for he had three sons."

From "The Lilly Papers", Indiana State Library, Indianapolis, IN
Sone Sonesson of Lagno in Sodermanland province, who was a Svea Rikes Rad (member of the King's Council, or bench, 1369).
It was during his time that King Magnus rode his Erikagata, when he announced, 1335, that no Christian within his realm should remain a thrall, thus practically abolishing the remnants of slavery. He was at the time one of the mightiest monarchs of Europe. It was also during his time the Black Death came from England in 1350, and nearly one third of the population perished in certain parts of Sweden. Magnus was captured and made a prisoner at Enkoping, 1363, and Albrecht Jr., son of Duke Albrecht of Mecklenburg, was chosen king. He, and his father, surrounded themselves with a great number of Germans, who, through their licentiousness and overbearing manner, enraged the people.

Children of SONE SONESSON are:
i. ODAGISL4 SONESSON, b. Lagno, Sodermanland, Sweden.
iv. ODSGISI SONESON, b. 1390, Lagno, Sweden; m. RAMBORG ULFSON; b. 1390, Lagno, Sweden.

Odgisl Sonesson

Odgisl Sonesson

Suno Anderson had a son, dsgisl Sonesson, who married Ramborg, the daughter of Staffen and Juliana (Svarte) Ulfson, Sr. Juliana Svarte was the daughter of Ake Jenison Skaning, Sr. dsgisl and Ramborg Sonesson had a son, Mattis dsgislesson, who married Mrs. Ingeborg Gregissadotter Bl, the daughter of Greger and Erengisle (Nilson) Bengtson.

4. ODAGISL4 SONESSON (SONE3, SUNO2 ANDERSON, ANDREAS1) was born in Lagno, Sodermanland, Sweden. He married RAMBORG ULFSON, daughter of STAFFAN DEN ALDRE and JULIANA SVARTE. She was born 1390 in Lagno, Sweden.

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From "The Name Lilly" by J.K. Lilly, Sr., 1942. He was Chairman of the Board, Eli Lilly and Company, Indianapolis, Indiana

"The gentle reader is left to his (or her) own ingenuity to unravel the sources of this name.
The recorder was careless in not giving us the birth date and death date of Odasgisl. "Lagno" is given as his home and he married "Ramborg", daughter of the Earl Marshall Sir Staffan Ulfson of Stenstad and Lagno. Strange that a man with a name like that could win the daughter of an Earl Marshall, but here he is mixing with the elite."

From "Lilly Papers", Indiana State Library, Indianapolis, IN
During his time, one of the most famous figures in Swedish history appeared, Engelbrekt Engelbrektson, a squire or knight, who complained to the king, Eric of Denmark, against the oppression of the Danish bailiffs. Upon his return, the Dalecarlians, or inhabitants of Dalecarlia, a province of Sweden, rose in a body, and elected Engelbrekt their leader. The people of Westmanland, another province, joined to a man, and so did the men of the provinces of Upland, Vermland and Dal. The councillors felt compelled to write a letter to the king, in which they broke their pledge of fidelity, and finally, Engelbrekt was elected Regent, at a meeting in Arboga, the first riksdag, or parliament, where noblemen, ecclesiastics, burghers and yeomen met.
Engelbrekt was killed by a fanatic in 1436, surnamed Natt och Dat (Night and Day).
Christopher of Bavaria, a nephew of King Eric, was elected to succeed him, 1440 by the nobles of Denmark and Sweden. He died in 1448, and was succeeded by Charles Knutson (Charles VIII).

i. MATTIS5 ODSGISLESSON, b. 1410, Lagno, Sweden; d. August 08, 1440, Abo Castle.


Children of NILS SONESSON are:


Children of JONS SONESSON and CECILA are:
ii. ETHER JONSSON, b. Rabila.

Mattis Odsgislesson

Mattis Odsgislesson was Governor of the above Abo Castle.

7. MATTIS5 ODSGISLESSON (ODAGISL4 SONESSON, SONE3, SUNO2 ANDERSON, ANDREAS1) was born 1410 in Lagno, Sweden, and died August 08, 1440 in Abo Castle. He married INGEBORG GEGISSADOTTER (BLUE) BLA Abt. 1416, daughter of GREGER BLA and CARIN BENGTSON. She was born 1410 in Tyresjo, Sweden, and died Abt. 1453.

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From "The Name Lilly" by J.K. Lilly, Sr. written in 1942. He was Chairman of the Board, Eli Lilly and Company, Indianapolis, Indiana

"What a name! But it evidently means Mattis, the son of Odsgisl. Surely it will be a relief when we get to the family name Lilly. Now Mattis Odsgislesson must have been somebody for he lived in Lagno and became "Councillor of Svea realm" (Svea-Rike) and in 1434 he signed an important letter to the Norwegian Council regarding the dethronement of Eric, King of Pomern.
In 1440 Mattis was a judge in Sodermanland province and in 1443 was Governor of Abo Castle. So he had advanced the family to castles. The old castle might have been damp and infected for Mattis died there and was buried in Gray Friars Monastery in Stockholm, having bequeathed to this monastery his manor at Lidarnno together with the adjoining islands.
Again we ask, where did his family come in?
In 1416 Mattis Odsgislesson married Ingeborg Gregissadotter Bla (Blue) who was a daughter of Greger Bengstson of Tyresjo and Carin. Ingeborg evidently outlived Mattis for when she died in 1453 she bequeathed her manor, Arno, to the monastery at Nykoping in exchange for perpetual masses for her soul and the souls of her relatives. This union was blessed by issue, there being four children of record. One daughter married a Regent, Eric Axelson Tott, and another an Earl Marshall all of which sounds rather high up. There was a son named Greger Mattson."

From "Lilly Papers", Indiana State Library, Indianapolis, IN
Mattis Odsgislesson of Lagno, Councillor of Svea realm (Svea RIke), 1434, when he signed the letter to the Norvegian Council and the German States regarding the dethronement of King Eric of Pomern. Was judge of Sodermanland province 1440, and Governor of Abo castle, 1443. He died there Aug. 8, 1440, and was buried in the Gray Friars Monastery (Gramunkeklostret) in Stockholm, having bequeathed to this monastery his manor Lidarnno and the adjoining islands.

Burial: Gray Friars Monastery (Gramunkeklostret) in Stockholm
Occupation 1: 1434, Councillor of Svea realm (Svea Rike)
Occupation 2: 1440, Judge of Sodermanland province
Occupation 3: 1443, Governor of Abo castle

From "Lilly Papers", Indiana State Library, Indianapolis, IN
A widow in 1453, when she bequeathed her manor Arno in St. Nicolai parish, at Nykoping to the monastery there, in exchange for perpetrual masses for her soul and he souls of her relatives. She was a daughter of Greger Bengtson, of Tyresjo and Carin, a daughter of Ehrengisle Nilson of Hammarstada.

Marriage: Abt. 1416
Single: Sweden


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From "Lilly Papers", Indiana State Library

This family came from Germany to Denmark, where the name was Tout. Thord Tott lived in Sweden in 1160 (Messenius). Axel Erickson Tott, who in his seal calls himself Ericus Absalonis, was knighted in 1441, and died in 1480. It is interesting to note that Swedish historians say he married, 1st Clara, daughter of Matts Odgisslason Lillje, and 2nd, with Elin Sture, who is claimed to have been sister to King Carl, although, probably, a daughter of Gustaf Algotson Sture of Angso (Knighted 1407), and widow of Knut Stenson Bjelke. Erik Axelson sealed the Eskil Baner's letter of dower. He became Regent of Sweden, 1457, which caused his incarceration by King Carl. when King Carl had to fly to Danzig, the archbishop freed Axel Erikson Tott from prison, and is mentioned, next to the archbishop, in royal letters of 1457.

Occupation 1: King's Councillor
Occupation 2: 1441, Knighted
Occupation 3: 1457, Regent of Sweden


Occupation: King's Councillor, Captain of Lecko

iv. GREGER MATTSON LILLJA LILLY, b. 1430, Tyresjo, Sodertorn, Sweden; d. March 24, 1492/93, Stockholm, Sweden.

Greggor Mattson

Greggor Mattson He died on 24 Mar 1493 in Westmanland, Upland Provence, Sweden. The above illustration is of the Stockholm Bloodbath where Greggor Mattson was beheaded.

9. GREGER MATTSON LILLJA6 LILLY (MATTIS5 ODSGISLESSON, ODAGISL4 SONESSON, SONE3, SUNO2 ANDERSON, ANDREAS1) was born 1430 in Tyresjo, Sodertorn, Sweden, and died March 24, 1492/93 in Stockholm, Sweden. He married (1) ANNA GADDA, daughter of JON GADDA and CATHERINA BJELKE. She was born 1430 in Gaddaholm, Sweden. He married (2) RAMBORG GOSTAFSDOTTER Abt. 1458, daughter of GOSTAF SPARRE and KJERSTIN FOLKESDOTTER.

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From "The Name Lilly" by Mr. J.K. Lilly, Sr. written in 1942. He was then Chairman of the Board for Eli Lilly & Company, Indianapolis, Indiana.

"This gentleman, the son of Mattis Odsgislesson, is given the credit for adopting the family name of Lilly, Swedish spelling "Lillja," pronounced "Leel-yah". Again the chronicler fails to give us a birth date but the archives of the family tell that Greger Mattson Lillja was a Vapnare (squire) of Tyresjo in Sodertorn in 1457, and was a member of the King's Council. He was Judge in Westermanland Province in 1480; knighted in 1484; Judge in Upland Province in 1491; died March 24, 1495, and was buried in the Gray Friars Monastery in Stockholm. Just why and when Greger selected the name "Lillja" for the family is shrouded in mystery, for the archives are silent on this interesting happening. It would be most interesting to know the origin of this family name. However, his choice was rather fortunate. He might have done much worse - "Odsgislesson," for instance. How absurd "Odsgislesson" would appear printed upon labels of pharmaceuticals! So let's be duly appreciate of Greger's selection.
Greger Mattson Lillja was twice married (1) to Anna Gadda, daughter of a Knight and King's Councillor, Jon Carlson Gadda of Gaddaholm; (2) and in 1458 to Ramborg Gostafsdotter, daughter of Gostaf Ufsson Sparre who was also a "King's Councillor." There must have been numerous King's Councillors in that day.
It is sad to relate that Greger Mattson Lillja, who had become "one of the nobility and men of wealth and power," ended his life through the medium of the headsman's ax. The archives relate that the King Christian of that period managed to return from banishment to the Throne of Sweden. Being short of cash and rather resentful he, King Christian, took advantage of the occasion to execute eight-four rich men and to confiscate their estates, a short route to financial security. It is recorded that good King Christian did not extend his vengeance to Eric, son of Greger Mattson Lillja. If he had there would not be a Red Lilly today, for son Eric was our ancestor. Seven of Greger's children are recorded and each had a large family. The Red Lilly was transmitted through a son of Greger Mattson Lillja and his first wife, Anna Gadda, by name Eric Gregerson Lillja."

From "Lilly Papers" , Indiana State Library

He opposed King Carl VIII Knutson Bonde at one time, but was sent in 1464 to Raseborg for the same purpose. He, finally signed on Larsmessodagen, 1485, Sten Sture's law, regulating the goldsmiths.
He married 1. Anna Gadda, daughter of the Knight and King's Councillor Jon Carlson Gadda, of Gaddaholm, and his wife, Catharina Ericsdotter Bjelke; 2., in 1458, Ramborg Gostafsdotter, daughter of the Knight and King's councillor Gostaf Ulfasson Sparre, of Wernehult, and his wife, Kjerstin Folkesdotter.
King Christian, of Denmark, had been called in by the archbishop and chosen king of Sweden, when Charles Knutson Bonde, Charles VIII, had sailed for Danzig. Kettil Karlsson Vasa, a nephew of the archbishop, revolted, defeated the new king of Haraker's church, in Westmanland, and the peasants wanted the reinstallation of King Charles. The latter returned in 1464, but again withdrew, and retired to Raseborg, a castle in Finland, abdicating his throne in 1465, Jan. 30.
Shortly afterwards, Eric Axelson Tott, who had married Greger Mattson Lillie's sister, Clara, was made Regent. His brother, Ivar Axelson Tott, who had the island of Gothland in fief, married a daughter of King Charles. The latter was reinstalled in 1467, upon the death of Bishop Kettil, and kept the throne to his death in 1470, when he designated Sten Sture as his successor. The latter was chosen Regent by the council of state and elected by the people at the Riksdag of Arobga, 1471. During this time, the learned institutions of Cologne, Prague, Leipzig and Bologna, but chiefly Paris, the greatest of them all, were filled by Swedish young scholars. The Swedes had three collegia in Paris, and the office of rector of president of the Paris University, the highest dignity of learning in the world, was held by Swedish citizens. Many Swedes settled, accordingly, in France, and Paris, and a large number remained there permanently.
Greger Mattson Lillie had married into the Sparre family, 1458, as we have seen, a family that traces its origin to the year 1200.

Greger Mattson Lillie was the first one of the nobility and men of wealth and power, who was beheaded in the so called Stockholm's Bloodbad, 1520, by King Christian. The bishops Matthias of Stregas and Vincentius of Skara, and thirteen noblemen with thirty-one town councillors and burghers of Stockholm were convicted of having signed the Diet of Arboga decree, 1517, that Christian should never become king of Sweden.
Eight-two persons were executed at this Carnage of Stockholm, as it was called, which was extended even to Finland, and to the provinces. The king, Christian, marked his return by executions and mass murder everywhere, and six hundred persons are estimated to have been killed through his order during his short stay in Sweden. These excesses led to a revolution, which placed Gustaf Ericson Wasa on the throne. He was elected regent at the Diet of Vadstena 1521, and crowned king at Upsala, 1528.

Burial: Gray Friars Monastery, Stockholm, Sweden
Cause of Death: Beheaded
Medical Information: Stockholm's Bloodbad, 1520 by King Christian
Occupation 1: 1457, Squire of the King's Council
Occupation 2: 1480, Judge in Westmanland Province
Occupation 3: 1484, Knighted
Occupation 4: 1491, Judge of Upland Province

Marriage: Abt. 1458

Children of GREGER LILLY and ANNA GADDA are:
i. ERIC GREGERSON LILLJA7 LILLY, b. 1450, Ulricehamn, Sweden; d. September 19, 1521, Herrjunga, Sweden.
iii. MATHIAS GREGORY LILLJA LILLY, d. November 08, 1520, Stockholm, Sweden.

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From "Lilly Papers", Indiana State Library

He was the first man, who was executed at the Stockholm's Blodbad (or bloody bath, as it was called), Nov. 8, 1520, although he had accepted King Christian as King of Sweden, appealed to the peasants to render him homage, and assisted at his coronation.
Bishop Mathias, it is said, had so much to do with the affairs of the country, that he had no time left for his bishopric.

Cause of Death: Executed
Occupation 1: 1489, Teacher at Greifswald
Occupation 2: 1495, Doctor Decretorum, Dean of Strangnas Cathedral
Occupation 3: 1501, Bishop of Strangnas Cathedral
Occupation 4: 1502, Member of the Council of State
Occupation 5: 1513, Chancellor to the Regent, Sten Sture, Jr.

v. BENGT GREGERSON LILLJA LILLY, d. November 08, 1420, Stockholm, Sweden.

Eric Gregerson Lillie

Eric Gregerson Lillie He married in Agnes 1467. He died on 19 Sep 1521 in Herrjuna, Sweden.

11. ERIC GREGERSON LILLJA7 LILLY (GREGER MATTSON LILLJA6, MATTIS5 ODSGISLESSON, ODAGISL4 SONESSON, SONE3, SUNO2 ANDERSON, ANDREAS1) was born 1450 in Ulricehamn, Sweden, and died September 19, 1521 in Herrjunga, Sweden. He married AGNES JOHANSON Abt. 1468, daughter of ELI JOHANSON. She was born 1450 in Sweden, and died October 1521 in Herrjunga, Sweden.

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From "The Name Lilly" by J.K. Lilly, Sr. written in 1942. He was Chairman of the Board, Eli Lilly and Company, Indianapolis, Indiana.

"This Eric was a merchant "dealing with the Hanseatic Cities." The date of his birth is not recorded in the archives. Eric married Agnes, daughter of Kopman (Merchant) Eli Johanson of Rothenberg whose business Eric absorbed when Eli Johanson died. The marriage was in 1468. Eric Gregerson Lillja is reported to have died September 19, 1521, at Herrjunga and is buried in a church there.
Eric has the distinction of injecting the name Eli into the family tree, or possibly it was Agnes. In either case they named one of their sons for her father, Eli Johanson"

From "Lilly Papers", Indiana State Library
Eric Gregerson Lillie son of Greger Mattson Lillie, and his first wife, Anna Gadda, a daughter of the knight and king's councillor, Jon Carlsson Gadda, of Gaddaholm, and his wife, Catharina Ericsdotter Bjelke, came of a family of great importance, a sufficient proof hereof found in the fact that his own father, Greger Mattson Lillie was the first one of the nobility and men of wealth and power, who was beheaded in the so called Stockholm's Bloodbad, 1520, by King Christian.
As a younger son, and not occupying any important position in the world, Eric Gregersson Lillie escaped the persecution, to which the elder brothers, Bishop Matthis, Folke Gregersson and Bengt Gregersson Lillie were subjected, all being executed at the Stockholms Blodbad, 1520.
Eric Gregersson had been employed as a 'skrifvare', i.e. clerk by Hans Akeson Tott, and occupied a too subordinate position to be noticed, although he had become a merchant, dealing with the Hanseatic cities, through his marriage with Agnes, Daughter of 'kopman' (Merchant), Eli Johanson, of Gothenburg, in 1467, absorbing the latter's business upon his death in 1510.
The supremacy of the Hanseatic League did not prevent commerce between Swedish merchants and the continent of Europe, as well as the Levant, the iron mines of Dalecarlia, Westmanland, Nerike and Eastern Vermland were growing in importance, and silver was produced by various mines in Dalecarlia. During Gustaf Wasa's time, German experts were called in to work the iron mines according to new methods, an end was put to the supremacy of the Hanseatic commerce, and treaties of commerce were closed with the Netherlands and France.
Eric Gregersson Lillie was distantly related to the 'peasant-king', Gustaf Eriksson Wasa, as he has been called, although his father, Eric Johansson Wasa, was a state councillor, and his mother, Cecilia of Eka, was sister of Christine Gyllenstjerna, his granduncle being Sten Sture Sr.
Eric Gregersson Lillie had received a "fastebref" (title-deed) from his father in law, Eli Johannson, 1468, as a marriage-gift consisting of a piece of land that is 30 st. wide, i.e. about 500 feet, as a stang was 5 1/2 yards long. The value was 8 ore 3 ortiger and 8 penningar.

Burial: Church at Herrjunga, Sweden

Marriage: Abt. 1468

Children of ERIC LILLY and AGNES JOHANSON are:
i. ELI ERICSSON LILLIE8 LILLY, b. May 03, 1470, Ulricehamn, Sweden.
ii. WILHELM LILLEY LILLY, b. September 11, 1468; d. March 03, 1531/32, Odiham, Hants, England.

Eli Ericsson Lillie

Eli Ericsson Lillie was born on 03 May 1470 in Ulricehamn, Vastra Gotalands, Sweden. He married Minerva on 12 Jun 1500.

17. ELI ERICSSON LILLIE8 LILLY (ERIC GREGERSON LILLJA7, GREGER MATTSON LILLJA6, MATTIS5 ODSGISLESSON, ODAGISL4 SONESSON, SONE3, SUNO2 ANDERSON, ANDREAS1) was born May 03, 1470 in Ulricehamn, Sweden. He met MINERVA SKYTTE June 19, 1500 in Sweden, daughter of JOHANNES SKYTTE. She was born 1475 in Ulricehamn, Sweden.

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From "The Name Lilly" by J.K. Lilly, Sr. written in 1942. He was Chairman of the Board, Eli Lilly and Company, Indianapolis, Indiana

"This Eli is recorded as having been born in Ulricehamn, May 3, 1470, (Note: Eli's older brother, William, went to England and became the root of a big English tree of Lilly's. Many of his descendants emigrated to America.)
This, our first Eli Lillja, was recorded as a Kopman (merchant), married June 19, 1500, Minerva Skytte, daughter of Johannes Skytte. Eli lived during troublous times in Sweden and on one occasion was sent to prison for some political offense but was soon proved innocent and released. Later there was more trouble and a number of Lilljas had their properties confiscated. While this Eli remained in Sweden some of his children emigrated to other countries and among them, Eli Henric Lillja, ancestor of the Red Lilly, who went to France. Now we go to France."

From "The Lilly Papers", Indiana State Library

Eli Ericsson Lillie continued his father's business, and occurs frequently as a merchant. As a nephew of Folke Gregersson Lillie and Bengt Gregersson Lillie he was apprehended in 1523, upon King Christian's return through Sweden to Copenhagen, and thrown in prison, but freed shortly afterwards, when it was proved he had taken no part in the troubles. When Gustaf Wasa raised an army to defeat King Christian, meeting with exceptional success, Eli Ericsson Lillie joined his forces, however, and occurs in the list of "herrar" (gentlemen) who took part in the coronation of King Gustaf in Upsala, 1528.
He appears to have taken active part in the so called "Feud of the Counts", a war in which Sweden had been forced and which lasted up to 1536, the chief participants being the counts of Holstein, Oldenburg and Hoya. In this war, Eli Ericsson Lillie, and his sons, Johan, Jacob and Eli Henrik Lillie, placed themselves on the side of the counts and the city of Lubeck, that were opposed to Christian of Holstein, who fought for his rights to the throne of Denmark after his father Frederic. Eric Gregersson Lillie, his father in law, Eli Johansson, and afterwards, the son Eli Ericsson Lillie, had been closely affiliated, as merchants, with the city of Lubeck and its adherents. The war ended disastrously for the latter, and Gustavus I., in punishing the revolt of the peasants, as well as the efforts of the nobles, and putting an end to the supremacy of Lubeck, caused hundreds of Swedish citizens, sympathizers with adherents for this city and its champions to emigrate to foreign parts. Many went to England, some to Holland and France.
Death sentences were pronounced upon two apostles of the Swedish Reformation at the Rikssdag of Orebro, Jan. 4, 1540, and when a conspiracy of German burghers, in which many of the dissatisfied Swedish merchants took part, against the king's life was discovered, in which his own chancellor and the two brothers, Claus and Laurentius Petri, the latter archbishop of Upsala, took part, these were condemned to death, and as many as could fled to foreign parts.
Eli Ericsson Lillie and his sons still remained in Sweden, however, although thrown into prison on suspicion. When the so called Dacke Feud broke out, however, 1542 to 1543, led by Nils Dacke, a peasant born in Bleking, a revolt which was encouraged by Emperor Charles V and by several German princes, which had for its object to place Svante Sture on the throne, Dackes adherents, when he finally was defeated at Lake Asund, were condemned to death, and their property confiscated. Among these, we find the name Elie Ericsson Lillie, Johannes Ericsson Lillie, Eli Henrik Lillie and Jacob Ericsson Lillie. Their properties were confiscated, but a general pardon was issued.
This in connection with the increased commerce with the Netherlands and France, probably induced the Lillies to emigrate to these countries, and to England. From now on, we find the names Jean Lillie, Eli Henri Lillie in France, and James Lillie in England.

Occupation: Merchant

Marriage: June 19, 1500
Single: June 19, 1500, Sweden

Children of ELI LILLY and MINERVA SKYTTE are:
i. MINERVA LILLIE9 LILLY, b. June 11, 1501.
iii. JOHANNES ELIASSON LYLLYE LILLY, b. September 15, 1503.
iv. ELI HENRIC LILLIE LILLY, b. August 07, 1505, Sweden; d. December 20, 1579, Bavay, France.

Eli Henrik Lillie

Eli Henrik Lillie was born on 07 Aug 1505 in Sweden. He died in Dec 1579 in Bavay, Nord, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France.

26. ELI HENRIC LILLIE9 LILLY (ELI ERICSSON LILLIE8, ERIC GREGERSON LILLJA7, GREGER MATTSON LILLJA6, MATTIS5 ODSGISLESSON, ODAGISL4 SONESSON, SONE3, SUNO2 ANDERSON, ANDREAS1) was born August 07, 1505 in Sweden, and died December 20, 1579 in Bavay, France. He married (1) CONSTANCE ELIANDER. She was born 1510 in Sweden. He married (2) MARGUERITE CHARPENTIER Abt. 1551 in France, daughter of GUILLAUME CHARPENTIER. She was born Abt. 1505, and died December 20, 1579.

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From "The Name Lilly" by J.K. Lilly, Sr. written in 1942. He was Chairman of the Board, Eli Lilly and Company, Indianapolis, Indiana.

"This Eli is recorded as having been born in Sweden, August 7, 1505, Eli Henric Lillja, having emigrated to France at a date unknown, abandoned the "Leelyah" and spells the family name "Lillie" also changing the Henric to Henri. Later generations spelled it Lillie and Lilli until they got to Lilly which has held to this day. Eli Henri evidently prospered in France for he lived at Bavay and there are records of substantial land purchases, an iron mine and foundry where agricultural implements were made, all of which were handed down through generations of the family. Then Eli Lilli "seigneur of Bavay," married Marguerite Charpentier, daughter of Guillaume Charpentier, and died December 20, 1579, aged about 74.
It is disclosed that Eli Henri had a wife in Sweden, Constance Eliander, who evidently died, either in Sweden or in France, and that Marguerite Charpentier was his second wife. Among his children by one of these wives was a son."

From "The Lilly Papers", Indiana State Library, Indianapolis, IN
Note: In the Lilly Papers the French as well as the English is given. I have not reproduced the French but have only typed the English translations.
The Lillie Family of France - Although we find the surname De Lisle in French annals prior to 1543, there is not known an instance, in which it has been written Lillie or Lilly, or any variations thereof. Even when members of this De Lisle family emigrated to England, and became naturalized, the name De Lisle was retained, as, for instance, when Thomas de Lisle, surifex (goldsmith) et uxor ejus (his wife) were naturalized, on petition of the Straungers of the French Church, to Queen Elizabeth, in 1562/3, "extorres patria et amiseri homines" (having been driven from the country of their birth . . or when Anthony de Lisle, "graver in puter & glasse", borne vnder the obedyence of the French King, was made a Denizen of London, April 6, 1583, "payeth tribute to no company, & ys of the French Churche."
The name Lillie, with its variations , Lill, Lille, Liles, Lylle, Lilly, Lely, Le Leu, Lelie, Leleu, l'Eleu, Lillers, De Lille, occurs in French annals in the year 1543 when one Eli Henri Lillie of Bavay, and Jean Henri Lillie, his son, "a minor", promise to pay to Jean Richepin, a sum of money.
"Know all men that we, Eli Henri Lillie, and Jean Henri Lillie, his son, of Bavay, a minor, for the purpose of discharge of a debt of 50 black Tournois, in Marmande, within one year from the date hereof, to Jean Richepin, in default of which said Richepin would be entitled to levy on their personal property, in which case Elie Henri Lille and Jean, his son, quitclaim all rights thereto. The parties to this agreement have signed it in the year of grace, 1543, on Saturday before St. Pierre, in February".
I, Johannes de Baudres, knight, conveys to Elias Henri Lilli, inhabitant of Bavay, all my lands there, with appurtenances, in perpetuity to said Henri and his heirs.
This property was in possession of the family for many generations. It appers to have included an iron-mine, or foundry, and implements of husbandry (aratoires) were manufactured there for many years.
Marriage contract between Eli Henri Lillie of Bavai, chevalier, and Guillaums Charpentier, for the marriage between said Elie Lilli, seigneur of Bavay, and the said daughter of Guillaume Charpentier, Marguerite Charpentier, a second wife of Elie Henri Lilli.
Elie Henri Lilli, Seigneur of Bavy, died in 1579, aged 74, having made his will, in Latin, in which he refers to his son and his children, and to other relatives: In the name of the Holy and indivisible Trinity, the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost, Amen. I, Elias Henricus Lilli, knight, desires to distribute my property between my sons Johannes and Wilhelmus Lilli to said sons the lands of Bavay .. with exception of the manor house, which is to go to my widow, Marguerita Charpentier, for her life .. to my sister, Minerva Lilli, wife of Knut Bonde, and her son Elie Bonde, all my lands, in Sweden .. to Johannes Lilli, my brother, and his son, Edmund Lilli, of England, one third of my lands of Bavay, after the death of my said sons, Johannes and Wilhelmus Lilli, without issue, the other one third of my estate in Bavay to go to my brother, James Lilli, of England, and his heirs, after the death of my said sons, Johannes and Wilhelmus Lilli, without legal issue, and the third part of my said lands of Bavay to my said sister, Minerva and her heirs, upon the death without issue of my said sons Johannes and Wilhelmus Lilli. If my said wife, Marguerite Charpentier, should have a child, within seven months of my death, she is to have the use of the lands and manor of Bavay, for her life or marriage, and after her death the property to be equally divided between my children, for their lives, and after their deaths, without issue, to go to my said brothers and sister Minerva, and their legal heirs .. die et anno quo supra (Decem. 9, 1579) IB M.XLVII. No. 182 Codicil, In French, Dec. 18, 1579: Said testator grants and bequeaths to Charles Gustave Lilli and Elie Gustave Lillie, the children of his eldest son, Jean Henri Lilli, and his wife, Marie Duval, a sum of five hundred livres, when they arrive at age of twenty-one, and with this bequest they are to be satisfied without any further claims upon the estate.

The name of Eli Henric's first wife Constance Eliander, appears with the marriage of her son Jean Henri to his second wife Emilie Breman "After the publication of three banns, Jean Henri Lilli, inhabitant of Bavai, son of the deceased Elie Henri Lillie and madam Constance Eliander, his father and mother, and Emilie Breman, daughter of the deceased Jean Breman, sieur de Montherme, and of Marie-Anne Dufor, her father and mother, have been married, there being no canonical or legal objection to said marriage, and after the said parties have received the nuptial mass, and the benediction, in the presence of witnesses.
We have here the name of the first wife of Eli Henri Lilli, Constance Eliander, a name that is not uncommon in Swedish annals. Of this family was Hakan Eliander, inspector of Earl Marshal, County Ekeblad's manor in Westergothland, whose son, Claes Eliander, became a famous architect, and who travelled in Holland, France and England.

Marriage: Abt. 1551, France

i. JEAN HENRI LILLE10 LILLY, b. Abt. 1530, Sweden; d. 1609, France.


Jean Henri Lillie

Jean Henri Lillie was born about 1530 in Bavay, Nord, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France.

36. JEAN HENRI LILLE10 LILLY (ELI HENRIC LILLIE9, ELI ERICSSON LILLIE8, ERIC GREGERSON LILLJA7, GREGER MATTSON LILLJA6, MATTIS5 ODSGISLESSON, ODAGISL4 SONESSON, SONE3, SUNO2 ANDERSON, ANDREAS1) was born Abt. 1530 in Sweden, and died 1609 in France. He met (1) MARIE DUVAL November 14, 1569 in France, daughter of CHARLES DUVAL and ADELAIDE BASSET. She was born 1535. He married (2) EMILIE BREMAN September 17, 1581 in France, daughter of JEAN BREMAN and MARIE-ANNE DUFOR. She was born Abt. 1535.

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From "The Name Lilly" by J.K. Lilly, Sr. as written in 1942. He was Chairman of the Board, Eli Lilly Corporation

"As Jean died in 1609, aged 79, he must have been born about 1530, which date tallies consistently with his papa's birth in 1505. It is recorded that Jean Henri was married November 14, 1569, to Marie Duval. There lies before the writer of this, as he writes, a copy of the marriage contract by Jean and the uncle of Marie Duval (the father having deceased). The contract is quaintly worded, but the essence of it is that Jean's father, Eli Henri, gives the happy couple "all his goods." Eli Henri was a manufacturer of agricultural implements, passing it on to Jean and Marie, a very decent thing to do and certainly started the young folds off in a good way. Sad to relate, however, Marie died and Jean married again, the new bride being Emilie Breman of Montherme. The record states that "Jean Henri Lilli, and Emilie Breman have been married, there being no canonical of legal objection to said marriage, and after the said parties have received the nuptial mass, and the benediction, in the presence of witnesses." Here it is seen that they were very careful about marriage in France at that period. Now there is also before us the rather long and intricate will made by Jean Henri Lilli in July of 1609, a typical French will beginning with the long-established "In the name of God Amen." Then follow provisions and items very much as today. Of inters to the Red Lilly is the fact that he left much property to his eldest son, Charles Gustave, our progenitor."

From "The Lilly Papers", Indiana State Library, Indianapolis, IN
Jean Henri Lilli born about 1530, as he was age 79, when he died in 1609, of Bavai, married, Nov. 14, 1569, by contract, Marie Duval, daughter of Charles Gustave Duval and Adelaide Basset, his wife:Witness, those present, .. at the castle of Cambrai .. Nov. 14, 1569, in presence of the royal notary and witnesses .. Guillaume Duval, brother of the deceased M. Charles Gustave Duval, esquire, in his lifetime seigneur of said mano .. and Jean Henri Lilli, esquire, seigneur of Bavai .. said parties intending to contract a marriage between said Henri Lilli, and mademoiselle Marie Duval, and the said Eli Henri Lillie, grants to his said son, Jean Henri Lilli, all his good ..).
Jean Henri Lilli, who was a manufacturer of agricultural instruments, married, secondly, Sept. 17, 1581, Emilie Breman, daughter of Jean Breman, of Montherme.
After due publication of three banns, Jean Henri Lilli, inhabitant of Bavai, son of the deceased Elie Henri Lillie and madame Constance Eliander, his father and mother, and Emilie Breman, daughter of the deceased Jean Breman, sieur de Montherme, and of Marie-Anne Dufor, her father and to her, have been married, there being no canonical or legal objection to said marriage, and after the said parties have received the nuptial mass, and the benediction, in the presence of witnesses.
Jean Henri Lilli made his will, June 11, 1609, in which he refers to children and grandchildren: In the name of God, June 11, 1609, Jean Henri Lilli, seigneur of Bavay and Quesnoy, residing in my house of Bavay, of sound mind and memory, and considering that the hour of death is uncertain, have made my last will and testament, as follow.
First, said testator has made the sign of the cross over his body, saying in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost, Amen.
Item, said testator recommends his soul to God, the intercession of his son, Jesus-Christ, the Virgin Mary, his mother, M.ST. Paul, his patron, and all the angels of Paradise.
Item, said testator desires that his body shall be buried in the church of St. Paul, with his parents and friends, and that three services shall be held by the priests of St. Paul .. amass to be held every hour for his soul and the souls of his parents .. Said testator desires that all his debts be paid by his residuary legatee.
Item, said testator declares that he has married his daughter, Emilie Lilli to Francois Pierre Bloedel, of Chesnoy, and have already given her the usual dot; in addition, she is to have a sum of one ecu d'or.
Item, said testator gives and bequeaths to Charles Gustave Lilli, his eldest son, the house and lands of Bavai, to Adelaide Duford, his wife, and Gustave Eli Henri and Jean Lilli, their children, a sum of twenty livres each
Item, said testator gives and bequeaths to Eli Gustave Lilli, Marie Dudevant, his wife, and Marie and Madeleine, their children, a sum of twenty livres each.
As my residuary legatee, I appoint my wife, Emilie Breman .. on condition that she pays my debts, all charges, and the bequests

Burial: St. Paul, Bavay, France
Occupation: Manufacturer of agricultural instruments
Will: June 11, 1609

Marriage: November 14, 1569, Bavay, France
Single: November 14, 1569, France

Marriage: September 17, 1581, France

Children of JEAN LILLY and MARIE DUVAL are:
i. CHARLES GUSTAVE LILLE11 LILLY, b. 1570, Normandy, France.

Charles Gustav Lillie

Charles Gustav Lillie was born on 11 Dec 1570 in France. He married in Adelaide DuFord Mortain, Manche, Basse-Normandie, France.

47. CHARLES GUSTAVE LILLE11 LILLY (JEAN HENRI LILLE10, ELI HENRIC LILLIE9, ELI ERICSSON LILLIE8, ERIC GREGERSON LILLJA7, GREGER MATTSON LILLJA6, MATTIS5 ODSGISLESSON, ODAGISL4 SONESSON, SONE3, SUNO2 ANDERSON, ANDREAS1) was born 1570 in Normandy, France. He met (1) MARIE DORNANT November 03, 1601 in France, daughter of RENE DORNANT and MARIE VIGNERON. She was born 1575 in France. He married (2) ADELAIDE DUFORD November 03, 1601 in France, daughter of GEORGE DUFORD and MARIE DORNANT. She was born Abt. 1575 in Mortain, Normandy, France.

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From "The Name Lilly" by J.K. Lilly, Sr. as written in 1942. He was Chairman of the Board, Eli Lilly Corporation.

"Charley was baptized December 11, 1570, and was married November 3, 1601, to Adelaide Duford, daughter of George Duford of Mortain, Normandy. The first son of Charles and Addie, Jean, went to America. The second son, Gustave Elie Henri Lilli, remained in France and took care of the twelfth generation."

Baptism: December 11, 1570
Occupation: Manufacturer of Bavai

Single: November 03, 1601, France

Marriage: November 03, 1601, France

Gustav Elie Henri Lillie

Gustav Elie Henri Lillie was born in 1604 in France. He married Eugenie Liebaut on 14 Jul 1629 in Bavay, Nord, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France.


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From "The Name Lilly" by J.K. Lilly, Sr. written in 1942. He was Chairman of the Board, Eli Lilly Corporation, Indianapolis, Indiana

"G.E.H. was baptized May 19, 1604, and on July 14, 1629, "at twelve of the clock," was married to the fair Eugenie, daughter of Thomas Liebaut (pronounced Lee-bow), a goldsmith of Valenciennes. The marriage contract is before us and is quite illuminating. Father Thomas grants to Eugenie "a dot of two hundred crowns, at 60 sous each," but that ends it, she is not to look to Dad for any future "dots". In consideration of this dot Gustave throws in all his property, including his manor of Quesnoy and all appurtenances thereto. This, presumably, puts Eugenie's crowns and Gustave's property into the family pot and all live happily thereafter. Gustave reserves the right to name the male issue. Also it is clearly noted that the couple are to have all things in common. How sensible this is! Another fine provision was added in 1643. It seems that contrary to the understanding that Eugenie was to have no more of her father's property, he did, upon his death, leave the farm known as "Liebaut manor" to Eugenie. So Gustave agrees to keep hands off and Eugenie holds sole title of it - very fair of Gustave, the Red Lilly spirit. The date of Gustave's death is not given but his widow, Eugenie Liebaut, died May 11, 1700, aged 88.

Gustave and Eugenie had much issue, but we are only interested in a son, Guillaume Lilli."

From "The Lilly Papers" Indiana State Library
In the name of God, Amen, I Elie Henri Lillie, acquire, of Vervins at Rumigny, of sound mind and memory, thanks to God, seeing the uncertainty of everything in this world and of life in particular, have made this my last will and testament, revoking all former wills which I might have made.
First, I desire that my funeral shall be as simple as possible . . only what is necessary . . and in accordance with my mode of living . .
Next, and having every reason to be satisfied with the conduct, affection and labor of my dear son Guillaume Lillie, I give and bequeath to him all my property real and personal after my death, subject to payment of my debts, and donations below mentioned.
First, I desire that my grandson, Charles Lillie or any other of my grandsons, born in wedlock, and considered worthy by my son Guillaume, i.e. my grandsons, Henri, Elie, Gustave, Francois and Christian Lillie, are to inherit the manor of Vervins.
In regard to the residue of my estate, I give and bequeath to my son, Thomas Lillie, residing in Hamburg, Germany, Eleonore Daniel, his wife, and their son, Christian Lillie a sum of 20 livres each.
Item, I give to my daughter, Elise Lillie, now in America, a sum of 20 livres, and to Madam Corille Wolf, her lady companion and friend a sum of 20 livres.
Item, I give to Fulvie Adams, grand ? of my dear wife, Eugenie Liebaut, and her daughter Marie Adams, a sum of 20 livres.
Item, I give to my dear brother, Jean Lillie, now a planter in America, Marie Dupre, his wife, and their son Jean Lillie, a sum of 20 livres.
Item, I give to my dear niece Marie Lillie, residing at Bristol, in England, daughter of my dear brother Jean Lillie and Marie Dupre, his wife, a sum of 20 livres, as a token of my regard and affection.
Item, I also give to doctor Francois Pierre Auger, nephew of my dear wife, of Rumigny, a sum of 20 livres, as a token of my regard, to purchase himself a mourning-ring . . Sept. 3, 1699).

Baptism: May 19, 1604
Burial: Vervins Manor, France
CHR: May 19, 1604

Burial: Vervins Manor, France

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From "The Lilly Papers" Indiana State Library
Know ye all that on July 14, 1629 appeared before the undersigned and witnesses, at the mansion of Quesnoy, M. Thomas Liebaut, goldsmith of Valenciennes, and mademoiselle Eugenie Liebaut, his daughter, having received her father's consent, and M. Gustave Elie Henri Lille, inhabitant of said Quesnoy. A marriage being contemplated between the said Lille and said Eugenie Liebaut, said parties have made the following marriage-contract. Pro primo, said Lille takes the said mademoiselle Liebaut for his wife and the said mademoiselle Eugenie Liebaut takes the said Henri Lille for her husband, the marriage to take place before the church here. Item, the said Thomas Liebaut grants to the said Eugenie, his daughter, a dot of two hundred crowns, at sixty sous each, in lieu of all further claims upon his estate, payable upon the day of marriage. Item, said M. Gustave Elie Henri Lille, upon receipt of said sum, grants and assigns all his property, including his house and manor of Quesnoy, with appurtenances. Item, it there should be male issue, said Lille is to name the child, who is to receive half of the property, or his widow, if surviving, and if neither have made such a disposition before death, one of such children is to succeed to half of the said property. Item, it is agreed that the said parties shall have everything in common, and in case of restitution, said mademoiselle is to have half of the real property. If the said Lille should die before said mademoiselle, with or without children, she is to have usufruct as long as she remains a widow, and without rendering any account provided she cares for the children and assumes all expenses of real property.
On Oct. 2, 1643, Gustave Elie Henri Lilli, of Quesnoy, and Eugenie Lille, his wife, born Biebaut, also of Quesnoy, declare that they in accordance with a marriage contract entered between them, have agreed that the farm, called the Liebaut manor, which the said Eugenie inherited upon the death of her father, the goldsmith, Thomas Liebaut, of Valenciennes, is to be her own property and that her husband renounces all interest therein.

Marriage: July 14, 1629, France

i. GUILLAUME LILLIE13 LILLY, b. 1635, Vervins, Rumigny, Franch.
ii. ELISE LILLIE LILLY, b. 1630, Vervins Manor, France; m. GUILLAUME WOLF.

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From "The Lilly Papers" Indiana State Library, Indianapolis, IN
Elise, bt. June 11, 1630, in America with a companion and friend, Lady Corille Wolf, 1699-1700. One Elizabeth Lillij died in Charles County, MD 1675, and letters of administration were granted Nov. 30 to Peter Carr, executor. No other Elise Lillie has been found, unless she is the Elizaeth Lilley, who married Guillaume Wolf, of London, a member of the French church and who had a sister, Corilla Wolf. The Wolf family appeared in Maryland and Virginia later on and connected with the Lilly's.

Baptism: June 11, 1630, France
Emigration: 1699, America

iii. THOMAS LILLIE LILLY, b. 1634; d. November 04, 1711, Hamburg, Germany.

Guillaume Lillie

Guillaume Lillie was born in 1635 in Vervins, Aisne, Picardie, France. He married Francoise LaCroix on 19 Sep 1670 in Nord, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France.


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From "The Name Lilly" by J.K. Lilly, Sr. written in 1942. He was Chairman of the Board, Eli Lilly Corporation, Indianapolis, Indiana

"Guillaume (William in English) Lilli, son of Gustave Elie Henri Lilli, is reported as having been baptized May 8, 1635, being a love token by Eugenie Liebaut, his mother, to his father Gustave Elie Henri Lilli; resided at Vervins and Rumigny. Guillaume evidently lived an uneventful life and in due course, September 19, 1670, married Francoise LaCroix, daughter of Charles La Croix of Nuzon. Five sons are of record to Guillaume and Francoise. One, Elie, died a bachelor. Another son, Charles, is an ancestor to the Red Lilly. Guillaume's will is before us "In the name of God Amen." After mentioning all his children dutifully he makes our Charles "residuary legatee" putting the burden upon him of paying all debts, funeral charges, etc. No record is made of what he had left. During Guillaume's lifetime France made great progress, whipped Italy, repulsed the Spaniards, and gained the victory of Alsace. Louis XIV came into evidence and big doings were going on. Lorraine was occupied in 1670, but for fear we get lost in the French wars, let's return to Guillaume's son, Charles."

From "The Lilly Papers" Indiana State Library

In the name of the Trinity, the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost, Amen. We, Jean Rochambeau, seigneur of the said de Marie, royal councillor, gentleman in waiting to his majesty, and his bailiff, greeting.
Know ye all that in the year of our reigning prince, the most Christian and victorious Louis, by the grace of God, king of France, and before us, Jacques Prudhomme, of Charleville, royal notary, of the Bailie of Nouzon, and in the presence of witnesses, personally appeared M. Guillaume Lillie, merchant, of said Vervins, considering that, after the sins of our first parents, it was ordained by the Trinity, all men must die, that nothing is so certain as death, but the hour thereof uncertain. And considering further that he is old and decrepit, subject to all the ills caused thereby . . but of sound mind and memory . . and to prevent all disputes between his children and heirs after his death.
First, and as a true Christian, he has made the sign of the cross, saying: In the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost, Amen. And having recommended his soul to God, his creator, to the Glorious virgin Mary, and to all the saints of paradise, praying them to guard his soul, when it has left his body, against the machinations of the enemy, and to lead the same into the kingdom of heaven.
Item, said testator gives and bequeaths to Henri, Elie, Charles, Gustave and Francois Lillie, his children, born in wedlock with his wife, Francoise La Croix, a sum of two hundred livres each, in lieu of all other claims upon his estate.
As for the residue of his estate, real and personal, the said testator makes his son Charles Lillie, his residuary legatee, on condition that he pays all debts, funeral charges, and bequests, but not to dispose of any of the goods, by sale or alienation, or otherwise. He is to preserve the same, and to leave the estate to his children, except that he may dispose of the property in the interest of his children, and for payment of usufruct to his wife, Marie Laurens.
Item, the said testator gives and bequests to his son, Henri Lillie, residing in England, and to Cecile Bajard, his wife, and to their son, Samuel, a sum of two hundred livres each, payable by his executor.
Item to his grandson, Jean Lillie, a sum of two hundred livres, when 21 years of age.
Item as executor and executrix Charles Lillie and Francoise LaCroix
Revokes and annuls all other testaments, &c. In the presence of witnesses, Oliver La Croix, Guillaume Laurens, and the royal notary. April 4, 1714.
During the lifetime of Guillaume Lillie France had entered upon the most glorious part of her existence. The war with Italy had ended 1631 with the treaty of Cherasco, two years later a French army seizes Lorraine, subsidies Bernard of Saxe-Weimer in 1634, and renews the Swedish League the same year. The Spaniards, who had invaded France in 1636, by Picardy, Burgundy and from the Pyrenees, are repulsed, another Spanish invasion of Languedoc in 1637 is also defeated, the French take some fortresses in Alsace, 1639, and occupy this province in 1640.
Roussillon was annexed by France in 1642, and in 1643, Louis XIV, became king under the regency of Anne of Austria, with Mazarin as First Minister.
The French under Enghien drive the Imperialists from Freiburg and master the middle Rhine-land, 1644, defeat the Spaniards at Courtrai, and capture Dunkirk. By the peace of Westphalia, France gains Austrian Alsac, and the Bishoprice of Metz, Toul, and Verdunn, 1648.
That year is also known for the outbreak of the Fronde, a revolt of the nobles and the parliament and citizens of Paris against Mazarin.
In 1654, the war with Spain continues, but the Spaniards fall to take Arras, although Turenne is defeated at Valenciennes, 1656. The peace of the Pyrenees in 1659 ends the war with Spain,a and France retains Rousillion, Artois, and many fortresses in Flanders. Dunkirk is bought form England in 1662, but in 1666 war is declared with England, which ends with the treaty of Breda, 1667.
Louis XIV, occupies Lorraine, 1670 and enters a war with Holland 1672, crosses the Rhine, and advances on Amsterdam. The French capture Maestrict 1673, regain Franche-Compte in 1674, and Sweden in now the only ally of France. Valenciennes was taken by Louis XIV 1677, as well as Cambrai, and in 1678 the French capture Ghent and Ypres.
Peace was made with Holland, Spain, the Prince of Germany, 1679, but in 1681, Louis seizes Strasburg in time of peace and occupies Casale.
Having made peace with his external enemies, Louis XIV now begin s a repressive policy against the Huguenots, and in 1682-83, the Huguenot emigration begins. The revocation of the Edict of Nates, 1685, causes a wholesale emigration of Huguenots, to England, Germany and the New World, and brings disastrous consequences to French commercial industry.
Louis XIV had seized Luxemburg in 1683-84, and a Leagure of Augsburg was formed in Germany, in 1636 to resist his claims to the Lower Palatinate, which he invades in 1688, and captures Philipsburg. Louis now declares war with Holland and Germany, in 1688, and with Spain and England in 1689, burning and devastating the Palatinate, by the advice of Louvois, before evacuating the country.
In 1691, Louis captures Mons, and in 1692, Namur. The following years up to 1698 are best known for the great failure of the harvest throughout Western Europe, which caused another emigration to the New World.
The War of the Spanish Succession begins in 1701, England declares war in 1702, the Camisards rise in Languedoc in 1703, and the French are repeatedly defeated by the Allies, at Schellenberg, Blenheim, Turin, Ramllies; the Allies capture Lille and Ghent, 1708, and Bethune, Douay and other places in 1710. In 17113, peace, at Utrecht, was finally made, between France on one side, and England, Holland, Portugal, Pressiz, and Savoy, on the other. War with Germany continued, however, although it finally ended by the treaty of Rastadt and Baden, 1714. The King died the following year, and was succeeded by Louis XV, under the Regency of the Duke of Orleans.

Baptism: May 08, 1635, Vervins Manor, France
Will: April 04, 1714

Marriage: September 19, 1670, France

i. CHARLES LILLIE14 LILLY, b. February 18, 1672/73, Normandy, France; d. 1748, Normandy, France.
ii. HENRI LILLIE LILLY, b. August 11, 1671.
iii. ELIE LILLIE LILLY, b. May 27, 1672.
iv. GUSTAVE LILLIE LILLY, b. November 01, 1675.
v. FRANCOIS LILLIE LILLY, b. October 14, 1677.

Henri Lilly

Henri Lilly was born in 1671 in France. He married Cecillia Bajard about 1697 in France.


Emigration: London, England
Naturalization: September 07, 1701, England
Residence: Briston, England

Marriage: December 03, 1697

i. SAMUEL15 LILLY, b. 1699, England; d. January 07, 1758, Eden, PA.

Samuel Lilly

Samuel Lilly was born in 1699 in Bristol, Somerset, England. He married Ester Bennett about 1724. He died on 08 Jan 1758 in Eden, Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA.

Samuel Lilly married Esther Bennett, about 1725, in Bristol, and had two children, Esther Lilly, born August 31, 1726, and Richard Lilly, born August 16, 1726, both born in Bristol, England. Eshter (Bennett) Lilly died soon after the birth of her son, Richard. Samuel Lilly married second, Anne Price, who was born in 1699. In 1730, Samuel Lilly and his family went from England to America, and arrived at Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. They settled on a farm in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. Lancaster County was created from Chester County on October 14, 1728. That part of Lancaster County became York County on October 14, 1748, and on January 22, 1800, Adams County. Adams County was on the border with Frederick County, Maryland. The children of Samuel and Anne (Price) Lilly were Thomas Lilly, born December 11, 1730, on the Atlantic High Seas; John Lilly, born June 5, 1733, in Pennnsylvania, married Verlinda Hardy and had many descendants; Samuel Lilly, born February 3, 1735; Mary Lilly, born in 1738, and Joseph, born in 1741. Their farm was called Eden. Charles Lillie was baptised February 18, 1672, (in Vervins or Rumnigy), and was the son of Guillaume and Francoise (La Croix) Lillie. He married Marie Laurens. They had Jean Lillie, baptised September 11, 1711; Marie Louise Lillie, baptised May 13, 1714; Armiger Lillie, baptised April 7, 1715; Edmund Lillie, baptised March 16, 1716; Robert Lillie, baptised December 9, 1720; and Guillaume Lillie, baptised November 4, 1721. In 1718, Charles Lillie lived in Vervins. He made a will January 3, 1726, as an inhabitant of Nouzon, France. In 1732, he lived in Nouzon. He died about 1748. Marie (Laurens) Lillie made a will September 9, 1749, as a resident of Rumnigny, and died July 17, 1750. The will recorded her daughter, Mary Louise, 'wife of Monsieur Adrien Wolf, of Couvin', and the sons of Marie (Laurens) Lillie, 'my sons, Edmond, Robert, and Armiger Lillie, colonists in America.' Armiger Lilly, Edmond Lilly, and Robert Lilly, settled in Goochland County, Virginia. Goochland County was created from Henrico County on February 1, 1727. Their descendants lived in Virginia, West Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee, and North Carolina.

Notes for SAMUEL LILLY: From the "Collections and Recollectin, in the life and times of Cardinal Gibbons" by John T, Reilym, 1982-3 2nd Vol. pp. 418-23:

"Samuel Lilly , 1st, migrated from Bristol, England, in 1730 and landed in Philadelphia, whence he went to Chester County, Pennsylvania, where he stayed but a short time, when he removed to and took up his permanent abode at Conewago in the then county of Lancaster and Province of Pennsylvania. He married a Miss Anna Price, was married in England, twice in one day; 1st according to the requirements and rites of the Catholic Church of which he was an exemplary member, and 2nd to conform to the Penal Laws of England by a minister of the Established Church to which it seems his wife belonged. The traditions of the Lilly Family inform us that he was designed for the ministry of the Church of England, but that during the preparatory studies he became skeptical which culminated in his conversion to the Catholic Church, which Church his wife also joined, but at which date the traditions do not state. He purchased the farm now owned by his great-great-grandson, Samuel Lilly Jenkins, improved it and called it "Eden", where he died January 8th, 1758, aged 59 years having been born in 1699 and was interred on ground now occupied by the addition that was put to the Church of the Sacred Heart at Conewago in 1851. His grave was marked by the rough stone cross which was afterwards hewn and placed upon the top of the Lilly Cenotaph that was erected soon after the removal of the Cross became necessary, by his grandson, Samuel Lilly, 3rd." (2)

Marriage: Abt. 1724

Marriage: 1729, England

17. i. RICHARD17 LILLY, b. August 06, 1728, Bristol, England; d. July 07, 1792, Frederick County, Maryland.
ii. ESTHER LILLY, b. August 31, 1726; m. MR. BROWN.

Had 3 children. It is presumed that Esther was interred in the Catholic cemetery in Frederick, Maryland.

Children of SAMUEL LILLY and ANNA PRICE are:
iii. THOMAS17 LILLY, b. December 11, 1730.
iv. JOHN LILLY, b. June 15, 1733.
v. SAMUEL LILLY, b. February 03, 1735.
vi. MARY LILLY, b. September 16, 1738.
vii. JOSEPH LILLY, b. May 18, 1741.

Richard Lilly

Richard Lilly was born August 06, 1728 in Bristol, England, and died July 07, 1792 in Frederick County, Maryland. He married MARY ELDER Abt. 1755 in Frederick County, Maryland, daughter of WILLIAM ELDER and ANN WHEELER. She was born Abt. 1735 in Frederick County, Maryland.

Notes for RICHARD LILLY:From the "Collections and Recollectin, in the life and times of Cardinal Gibbons" by John T, Reilym, 1982-3 2nd Vol. pp. 418-23:

"Richard Lilly had a large family. He married a Miss Elder of Maryland, and it seems settled in Fredrick County, Near Woodsboro. His children appear to have left their home when young. One of his daughters, Anastasia, married a Mr. McSherry and was the mother of Dr. Richard McSherry, late of Martinsburg Virginia. She was also the mother of James Mc Sherry, Esquire. Another daughter of Richard's married a Mr. Spalding who died in Baltimore many years ago, leaving three daughters, Mrs. Edward Jenkins, Mrs. Thomas Meredith and Miss Harriet Spalding. It is known that Richard had at least three children, named respectively, Ignatius, James and John, who went West when young and located in Ohio, Kentucky and perhaps one of them in West Pennsylvania, as there was a family of Lillys at or near Loretto in Cambria County, Pennsylvania, who claimed kindred to the Conewago Lillys and after whom [Lilly Station] on the Penna R.R. near Loretto was called. It was probable Ignatius settled in Ohio, James in Kentucky and John in Loretto...(2)

Marriage: Abt. 1755, Frederick County, Maryland

Children of RICHARD LILLY and MARY ELDER are:
18. i. JOSEPH18 LILLY, b. March 21, 1763; d. 1860.

Joseph Lilly

Joseph Lilly was born on 21 Mar 1763. He died in 1860.

Joseph Lilly was born March 21, 1763, and died 1860. He married CHARITY OGLE COSTELLO/COSTLOW July 20, 1784 in Frederick County, Maryland. She was born Abt. 1767 in Mt. Pleasant, Frederick County, Maryland.

Marriage: July 20, 1784, Frederick County, Maryland

19. i. SAMUEL D.19 LILLY, b. August 08, 1796, Pennsylvania; d. July 25, 1860, Loretto, Cambria County, Pennsylvania.
20. ii. MARY JOSEPHINE LILLY, b. October 30, 1786.
21. iii. MARTHA LILLY, b. August 15, 1788.
22. iv. THOMAS LILLY, b. August 15, 1790.
v. JOHN LILLY, b. June 08, 1792.
23. vi. ANNA LILLY, b. August 01, 1794.
24. vii. JOSEPH A. LILLY, b. March 13, 1798.
viii. MARY ANN LILLY, b. July 03, 1800.
25. ix. LUKE J. LILLY, b. August 14, 1802.
x. THERESA LILLY, b. April 02, 1805; m. RICHARD SHARP.
26. xi. ISADORE LILLY, b. April 04, 1809.
xii. PATRICIA LILLY, b. 1810; m. BURGOON.
27. xiii. RICHARD LILLY, b. August 06, 1785.

Samuel D. Lilly

Samuel D. Lilly was born on 08 Aug 1796 in Pensylvania. He married Catherine M. Troxell on 03 Feb 1825 in Loretto, Cambria, Pennsylvania, USA. He died on 25 Jul 1860 in Loretto, Cambria, Pennsylvania, USA.

Samuel D. Lilly was born August 08, 1796 in Pennsylvania, and died July 25, 1860 in Loretto, Cambria County, Pennsylvania. He married CATHERINE M. TROXELL February 03, 1825 in St. Michaels, Loretto, Cambria County, Pennsylvania, daughter of JACOB TROXELL and SUSANNAH GLASS. She was born October 30, 1805 in Loretto, Cambria County, Pennsylvania or Wayne County, Kentucky, and died November 29, 1865 in Loretto, Cambria County, Pennsylvania.

Burial: St. Aloysius Cemetery

Burial: St. Aloysius Cemetery

Marriage: February 03, 1825, St. Michaels, Loretto, Cambria County, Pennsylvania

28. i. ANDREW JACOB20 LILLY, b. June 1847, Lilly, Cambria County, Pennsylvania; d. May 11, 1926, Princeton Township, White County, Indiana.
ii. THOMAS LILLY, b. 1826.
iii. JOSEPH LILLY, b. 1830.
iv. WILLIAM LILLY, b. Abt. 1832.
v. ISADORE LILLY, b. 1839.
vi. JOHN LILLY, b. 1842.
29. vii. SAMUEL SYLVESTER LILLY, b. January 08, 1845, Cambria County, Pennsylvania; d. February 16, 1918, Jennings County, Indiana.
29. SAMUEL SYLVESTER20 LILLY (SAMUEL D.19, JOSEPH18, RICHARD17, SAMUEL16, HENRI15, GUILAUME14 LILLIE, GUSTAV ELIE HENRI13 LILLI, CHARLES GUSTAV12, JEAN HENRI11 LILLIE, ELI HENRIK10, ELI ERICSSON9, ERIC GREGERSON8, GREGGOR7 MATTSON, MATTIS6 ODSGISLESSON, ODGISL5 SONESSON, SONE4 SUNESSON, SUNO3 ANDERSON, ANDREAS2 BATHE, THE FAMILY OF1 LILLJE) was born January 08, 1845 in Cambria County, Pennsylvania, and died February 16, 1918 in Jennings County, Indiana. He married (1) ELLA MCADAMS. He married (2) ELIZABETH LEWELLEN September 15, 1867 in Lexington, Mo., daughter of HASTINGS LEWELLEN and CAROLINE ALLOWAY. She was born August 30, 1843 in Geneva Township, Jennings County, Indiana, and died August 10, 1899 in Glen Oak farm, Jennings County.

Obituary: "Samuel Sylvester Lilly, one of the oldest and most widely known residents of the state, died at his home February 16th 1918, after a short illness in his 73rd year. He was born in Cambria County, Pennsylvania, on January 8th, 1845. His parents were Samuel D. Lilly and Catherine Troxell who were married February 3rd, 1825, seven sons were born to this union Thomas Joseph, William, Isadore, John, Samuel S., and Andrew Jacob. The Grandfather of S. S. Lilly was Richard Lilly, who came from England in 1795 with two daughters Charity and Anna and three sons, Thomas Joseph and Samuel and settled in Lorette, Pa. Silas Lilly as he was known among his many friends and neighbors, was educated in the Johnstown College at Johnstown, Pa. At the age of 22 he took up his residence in Lexington Missouri and September 15th 1867 married Miss Elizabeth Lewellan. To this union eleven children were born, Catherine, Caroline, John, Joseph, Mary, Andrew, Anna, Martha, Albert, George, and Genevieve, eight of whom are living. In 1878, he located in Jennings County, Indiana on the Glen Oak Farm, where after many happy years his wife died, and in 1902 he married Miss Ella McAdams, sister of Mrs. Louis Retchle, of North Vernon and remained on the farm where they had many friends and were beloved by all. Services were held in the St. Mary's Catholic Church, Father Widerin officiating. Internment in St. Mary's Cemetery, North Vernen. The widow, five sons and three daughters and two brothers survive. The lord be with you father, And with thy spirit. From your Mother and children."

Burial: Saint Mary's Cemetery, North Vernon, Indiana

From the notes of "Christine Lou-Ellen West R.D.F. 4, Box 102 Franklin, Indiana, 46131 (317)729-5640" is this Obituary: "Died, August 10, 1899 at her home near Brewersville, Indiana, Mrs. Elizabeth Lewellen Lilly, eldest child of Hasten and Carolline Lewellen, was born August 30, 1843, in Geneva Township, Jennings County, Indiana, and was united in marriage with Silas S. Lilly, September 15, in Lexington, Mo. There was born of this union eleven children - six boys and five girls - nine of whom grew to man and womanhood - eight of whom are still living. Two of her sons served through the Spanish-American war in the regular Army. She was for many years a member of the Baptist Church. The family has lost a true friend, the children a kind and loving mother, the husband an able consular and affectionate and dutiful wife."Notes for Elizabeth Lewellen:
Elizabeth Lewellen Lilly ( August 30, 1843-August 10, 1899

Died, August 10, 1899, at her home near Brewersville, Indiana, Mrs. Elizabeth Lewellen Lilly. The remains were followed to their last resting place in Cave cemetery August 12th by a large crowd of sympathizing neighbors and relatives.

Elizabeth Lewellen, eldest child of Hasten and Caroline Lewellen, was born August 30, 1843, in Geneva township, Jennings County, Ind., and was united in marriage with Silas S. Lilly, September 15, 1867, in Lexington, MO. There was born of this union eleven children - six boys and five girls - nine of whom grew to man and womanhood - eight of whom are still living. Two of her sons served through the Spanish-American war in the regular Army. She was for many years a member of the Baptist church. The family has lost a true friend, the children a kind and living mother, the husband an able consular and affectionate and dutiful wife.

Burial: Saint Mary's Cemetery, North Vernon, Indiana

Marriage: September 15, 1867, Lexington, Mo.


Andrew Jacob Lilly

Andrew was born June 1847 in Lilly, Cambria County, Pennsylvania, and died May 11, 1926 in Princeton Township, White County, Indiana. He married HANNAH DELANEY LEWELLEN December 26, 1871 in Jennings County, Indiana, daughter of HASTINGS LEWELLEN and CAROLINE ALLOWAY. She was born 1852 in Geneva Township, Jennings County, Indiana, and died July 01, 1925 in Princeton Township, White County, Indiana.

Cousin, Mary Lilly Liedtky writes: While we do not know what prompted our Grandfather, Andrew Jacob and his brother, Samuel Sylvester, to leave their home in Pennsylvania, rumor has it that they were dissatisfied with the way their father's property was divided up in his will. We do know, however, that Samuel attended college in Jamestown, Pennsylvania, and that he had served sometime in the Civil War, so it is presumed they made their journey sometime around 1865, going to Carrolton, Misouri. Their stay there was apparently of short duration as Samuel was married to Elizabeth Lewellyn (sister of Hannah){in Jennings County, Indiana R.G.S.} sometime around 1870. The reaction from their family in Pennsylvania was [and they both married Protestants !]"
Cousin Mary continues, "It was apparent that both families settled in Jennings County, Indiana. Samuel and Elizabeth at Glen Oaks, and Grandpa and Grandma on some rental property, no doubt. My father Silas Lawrence was born in Jennings County, and in all probability, so were Casper, Susan and perhaps, Edward Lewis."
It is evident that the family gradually made their way northward. My (Roger Spurgeon's) sister Essie told me that grandpa live for a while near Veedersburg, Indiana. By the time they arrived in Northern Indiana, their family was complete and many of their children married.
Grandma died July 1, 1925 and Grandpa died may 11, 1926. She was age 74 years and he was 79 years. Both are buried in the Dobbins Cemetery North of Wolcott, White County, Indiana."
Grandpa Lilly said that his mother was an Indian. His father had a good helping of Cherokee blood also. Speaking of Indian heritage was taboo for our family, for many of the white population didn't care for Native Americans. Only at the arrival of my generation can our family proudly announce publicly that we are of Indian descent. Caroline Lewalling, Delaney's mother, was a Native American. The picture of Dalaney and her family suggests that the Indian blood was very strong in this family set. If one claimed to be Native American in our near past history, he couldn't own land. Most Hoosier Indians claimed to be white. It was illegal for an Indian to marry a white as late as 1940. The census only registered white and black races until 1920. Native American wasn't an option. Because of the oral tradition of Hannah Delaney Lewellen being a Native American, the picture of her strongly supports the tradition, the physical traits that are present in the family, the generations of last names that are on our family line that are also on the later made Cherokee rolls. Our ancestors came west before the roll were made because some, if not all, were considered traditionalist Cherokee by the Ross faction. Because of the time and area the families came from, the fact that many Cherokee migrated into Indiana, Kentucky and Pennsylvania from their stolen lands, the fact that telling others we were Native American was taboo, and the physical evidence of Native American physical characteristics of our family members presents a preponderance of evidence that proves, yes, we are Cherokee.

Burial: Dobbins Cemetery, White County, Indiana

Burial: Dobbins Cemetery, White County, Indiana

Marriage: December 26, 1871, Jennings County, Indiana

8. i. JAMES THOMAS6 LILLY, b. November 23, 1879, Brewersville, Indiana; d. August 16, 1958, Rural North Judson, Indiana.
ii. CAPP LILLY, b. Abt. 1871, Jennings County, Indiana.

Notes for CAPP LILLY:
Not heard of since the San Francisco earthquake in 1906 -- Presumed died. He was married and devorced.

9. iii. EDWARD LEWIS LILLY, b. September 09, 1877; d. May 30, 1942.
10. iv. MARY ELIZABETH LILLY, b. January 10, 1884; d. July 14, 1973.
11. v. LUCY LILLY, b. April 08, 1890.
12. vi. ISADORE MARTIN LILLY, b. March 24, 1888.
13. vii. RUBY BERNICE LILLY, b. 1882.
14. x. SILAS LAWRENCE LILLY, b. November 15, 1874.
15. xi. EMMA IDA LILLY, b. May 10, 1886.
16. xii. ALICE MAY LILLY, b. 1897; d. January 26, 1979.
17. xiii. SUSAN AGATHA LILLY, b. February 05, 1873.

James Thomas Lilly

James Thomas Lilly was born on 23 Nov 1879 in Brewersville, Jennings, Indiana, USA. He married Margaret Elizabeth Armstrong on 16 Feb 1910 in Wolcott, White, Indiana, USA. He died on 16 Aug 1958 in North Judson, Starke, Indiana, USA.

James Thomas Lilly married Margaret Elizabeth Armstrong, February 16, 1910. A witness of the wedding, Elizabeth Riggs, later married Isidore Lilly, brother of James. James waited till he was about 32 years old before he married and spent much of his time before marrying in the Army. Grandpa's mother was a Cherokee. His father was Cherokee, descending from Beloved Woman, War Woman Cornblossom and many prominent Cherokees including Chiefs Moytoy I, Moytoy II, Great Eagle and Doublehead. Grandpa or our family being Native American was not to be discussed because being implicated as a Native American was considered a disgrace by supercilious members of European descendancy. James loved the travel and adventure that the Army provided. Among the places he went were Oregon and Cuba. While at Oregon, the men often had to supply their own food. James said that an Indian guide would go out with only a hunting knife and a stick and come back with a grizzly bear most every time. One might want to know the method that was used, but putting it to use may not be the wisest thing to do.
James and Margaret moved to the Wolcott, Indiana area where they lived in several places. James was a farmer and chose not to give up his work horses totally for a "New Fangled" tractor. He had a couple tractors; drove them till they broke down and parked them. Later, before James retired the family moved to a farm northeast of Mederyville, Indiana. After retiring he rented the property out to neighboring farmers. In retirement, he had the hobby of wood carving and spent hours making canes, and toys for his grandchildren. He made Duane Spencer a fine hunting bow. James kept the fact that he was a Native American quiet because of the harassment by the white population. He was accosted by the K.K.K. when living north of Wolcott. They stopped him and his family coming home from town and expressed their dislike for his race. James pulled his shot gun out from under the seat of his wagon and ordered them out of his way, and continued taking his family home. James' black hair, brown Indian eyes and ruddy completion gave away his race and his children were also teased at school for being Native American by the other children. The farm provided much work, tending gardens, feeding hogs and chickens, picking berries, putting up food and all the things that people do as mostly self sufficient farmers. What was considered pests by most, such as opossum, raccoon, sparrows, pigeons, ground hog and squirrel was taken and used as food by our Native American family. I learned to eat and enjoy what many turned their noses up to, including a variety of wild greens gathered in the woods and farm. Turtles, frog legs and wild mushrooms were all delicacies in our family. Grandpa in his younger days used bow and arrow to fish with at times. Uncle Jesse said that he grew his own arrows and handmade both bow and arrows. Grandpa also made a some of the furniture, such as kitchen chairs. He cut the chair frames from the woods by his home, fashioned them together and wove the seats and backs from binding twine. They were very sturdy and fine looking. He always built many wren houses and placed them around the farm. He liked to watch the little song birds. At least part of Grandma's and Grandpa's family visited them every weekend, the others came when they could. This was the place that all of us cousins got together and grew to know each other as family. Family bonds were strong. We consumed a lot of fryed chicken, mashed potatoes with gravy and green beans, strawberry, and blackberry jam, grape jelly, homemade pickles, cookies, strawberry shortcake and a myriad of other delicacies all processed or cooked by the best cook in the World, Grandma Lilly. The family got and installed a modern gas cooking stove for Grandma, but she wouldn't use it, preferring to cook on her wood cooking stove. Most every spring several children of Grandma and Grandpa would buy chicks and feed. The chicks were raised through the summer by Grandma, then plucked and butchered in the fall. The family then put in the freezer for all who participated in the venture to eat during the winter. The family all got together and shared in the work at butchering time. As a child, I remember headless chickens chasing me around the yard. I don't know how they would follow me with their heads cut off but often they managed to do so.
I was at Grandma's more often than every other weekend and kindly recall loving her company and the wide open spaces that her farm provided. Grandma always kept a large number of laying hens and always kept us supplied with eggs. They were the staple our family during my childhood. Grandma remained on the farm after Grandpa's death. Grandpa died in 1958, He spent a lot of his fishing time at the Bedford Bridge on the Little Monon. Often, he would bait up real big waiting for a large catfish and sit there enjoying the summer day or evening. The Bedford Cemetery over looks this spot, his favorite fishing hole and there at the Bedford Cemetery is where he requested to be buried. Grandma and several of his children are now burried there.
When Grandma neared death, she anticipated and looked forward to its arrival. She longed to meet her Jesus and looked forward to God's promises to the Faithful. When she departed in 1977, all who was near to her were smitten greatly with her loss. She was always a comforter to her grandchildren. I will remember her as a perfect grandma, cheerful, loving, affectionate and understanding. I love her dearly. Burial of James was August 19, 1958, Bedford Cemetery, Monon, Indiana. JAMES LILLY and MARGARET ARMSTRONG were married February 16, 1910, White County, Indiana.

Ermil Maryla Lilly

Ermil Maryla Lilly was born on 14 Aug 1916 in Wolcott, White, Indiana, USA. She married Gerold Ivan Spencer about 1931 in Wolcott, White, Indiana, USA. She married Joseph Thomas Spurgeon before 1949 in Wolcott, White, Indiana, USA. She died on 13 Jul 2010 in Crawfordsville, Montgomery, Indiana, USA.

Joseph Thomas Spurgeon was born on 24 Oct 1906 in Salem, Washington, Indiana, USA. He married Ermil Maryla Lilly about 1947 in Wolcott, White, Indiana, USA. He died on 25 Jul 1961 in DeMotte, Jasper, Indiana, USA.
Joseph Thomas Spurgeon was born in Monroe Township, north of Salem near Lick-Skillet Hill. When Joe was around 1, the family moved South of DeMotte, Indiana. Then, after a couple of years the family moved to Vallonia, Indiana. By 1912, the family moved back to DeMotte. Joe graduated from the DeMotte High School. The great depression was already under way for the farmers of America, and in the 1930's it was full blown for all of the world. Joe (my Dad) did as many other young men of the time and hopped on freight trains, riding from one town to the next, looking for jobs. This was known a riding the rails. This was very dangerous for the railroads had detectives to keep the rail riders off the trains and many riders were injured or even killed. While he was doing this, Grandma Spurgeon wanted him to come home, and she paid for a message that was announced on the WLS radio station. The message was "Joe come home". As the story went, Dad came home shortly after.
Although Dad helped his parents with the farm, he chose to be a crane operator at Standard Forging Works in Gary, Indiana. His nephew Gus, stated that Dad was the best crane operator the mill had. The bosses would wait for Dad to come to work to do the dangerous or difficult jobs that were needed in the mill.
About the mid 1930's, Dad married his first wife, Edith Cox. My mother stated she was half Cherokee Indian. They had two children, Paul Robert born October 31, 1938 and Charles Roy born in 1939. In 1941, on the black top going south out of DeMotte, Dad had a car accident on the first intersection. Edith and Charles were killed. Both were buried in the DeMotte Cemetery.
In 1941, the United States enter World War II, and although Dad was too old to be called on to fight, he decided to enlist. Cousin Fred Schwanke told me that he was specially trained to repair a very large artillery piece the Germans had, but didn't get to work on them since it was later decided that there wouldn't be much benefit for the Allies to use the guns. My brother Duane said that Dad was one of the soldiers that went into Europe on gliders on "D Day". Paul was left with Uncle John Murray when Dad was in Europe. Grandpa Spurgeon died while Dad was at war.
Mother was the daughter of James T. and Margaret E. Armstrong Lilly. James a Chickamauga/Talligewi (Cherokee), migrated to White County with his parents from Jennings County, Indiana. Margarets grandparent were Irish and Scottish natives and migrated from Ireland to Indiana with Joseph Armstrong the father of Margaret.
A couple of years after the end of World War II, Dad married my Mom Ermil Maryla Lilly Spencer. Mom had lost her first husband, Garold Spencer in a car-train accident in Renselaer, Indiana. Her children were Dallas Delos, Essie Kay and Calvin Duane. Gerold was a farmer and the family lived in the Millroy Township area west of Monon, Indiana. Uncle John Murray Spurgeon lived in this area and Mom met Dad and Paul when they visited Uncle Murray.
Mom and Dad moved to a small house south of Lee, Indiana. On August 23, 1949, I was born in the home with Grandma Lilly attending. Grandma said that I was born fighting, for I was very angry and had my fists moving back and forth at my birth. According to Dad's Neice, Clara May, I was a toe-headed, blue eyed spitting image of Charles Roy who had died less than a decade before. About 1957, Dad was forced to retire from the steel mill because of heart problems. Grandma Spurgeon died in 1957 also. On July 25, 1961, Dad died from a major heart attack in DeMotte, Indiana when visiting at the home of friends, Madelin and Frenchy La Bow. Funeral Services were held at the Todd Funeral Home in DeMotte and he was buried in the DeMotte Cemetery. Dad requested that only Masonic Service be given at his funeral, and this was respected.
In 1959, Paul Robert married Norma Childress and bought a house in Fair Oaks, Indiana. Paul's daughter Rose Ann Irene was born in 1960, and Rox Ann Darlene was born in 1961. Paul helped manage a dairy farm, did cement finishing, and drove trucks for a living. Paul loved the outdoors and hunted and fished. He was a veteran having served with the US Navy. He was also a member of the Masonic Lodge. Paul had a car-semi truck accident in 1974 that caused severe swelling of the brain and very severe pain. His wife said, because of this, he ended his own life.
Mom made a living cleaning houses for some of the more wealthy people in Monon and, later, after all the kids had left home, ran a thrift shop out of her house. She enjoys painting (oil and water paints) and writing poetry. She retired in the early 1980's and moved to Linden, Indiana to be closer to Essie.
Dallas moved to Texas when he was old enough and became a real cowboy, punching cows for a living. He made friends with some of the local Indians and they gave him the name of "Fists like Arrows", because when he fought, he struck so hard and fast. He moved back to Monon and married Nancy Byrd. They had three children, Gerald, Sharon and David. In the 1990's, he divorced Nancy and married Alma (Barnhart) Johnson. He retired from farming, running a junk yard and working as an iron worker and pipe fitter. In the late 1990's, he and Alma moved to a small farm near Wirth Arkansas. In his retirement, he raises ducks, geese, chickens and a myriad of other who knows what as a hobby. Wild turkeys, deer and mountain lions range the forests around and on his property. He died at his home on October 18, 2011.
Essie married Lavern Lutes about 1953. Lavern worked in the Linden bank as a cashier for years, then in 1965-66 became president of the Linden Bank. They moved from Monon to Linden at that time. They had two children, Kevin and Leasa. They both graduated from North Montgomery High School. Leasa graduated from Wheaton College and is a professor teaching language in one of the eastern state colleges. Kevin is a machinist at Alcoa in Lafayette. He married Vicky Smith and had two children, Kyle and Travis. They lived at Linden. In the late 1990s, Essie and Lavern divorced. Essie moved to Indianapolis and purchased a home on the east side. Essie is a great ball room dancer and travels the mid-west dancing. Dancing is her hobby and recreation.
Calvin joined the Navy when he became of age. He met and married Joan Hall in Maryland and they had two sons, Calvin Jr. and Michael. They separated when the children were still small. When he was in Scotland he met and married Evelyn McComisky. They had a daughter, Katrina. Katrina lived near Wilmington, Illinois for several years and worked as a dealer on the gambling boats. Cal's third wife was LaRue Johnson, daughter of Alma Johnson. LaRue had two children, Mathew and Melissa. Cal worked as a Correctional Officer in Joliet, Illinois and retired from there. He was a Viet Nam War veteran and he also retired from the Navy. About the time of his retirement from the Joliet Correctional Facility, he and LaRue were divorced. Cal lived in Georgia for a short time, near his son Michael, and happily cruised around on the motorcycle his daughter Melissa gave him as a present after the divorce. He went to Georgia to help his son start a business. In 2003, he moved to Idaho to help Katrina and Boyd make the transition on their move. Cal is very family orientated and has a heart of gold. He died of cancer at his home in Idaho on July 6, 2010.
I have many memories of home-life when I was young. I was barely two years old when Essie , Maybe Cal, took me by the hand and showed me our new home in Monon. Essie, baby sitting me, putting a blanket over the couch, playing house, and fighting with Cal for tearing it down. Essie putting dish soap on the door handle, so I couldn't open the door and go outside; Essie turning on the radio and hearing Elvis sing "You Ain't Nothing But a Hound Dog"; And me singing with him; Essie laughing and praising me for it; and Essie using me for a partner, dancing swing and rock n roll; Essie holding my hands, so I couldn't smash a bumble bee on my bare stomach; Essie darning socks and mending blue jeans when she got married and moved to the Boomershine apartments; Essie telling me there was no fish in the Monon Creek and Lavern catching one when he came home from work. Waking up Dallas by pulling his eye-lids open. I'm up to three or four now. Baths supervised by Mom on Saturdays in a galvanized tub. Cal talking me into putting my Tongue on the pump in 10 degree weather, after telling on him for smoking. A Warm Morning stove with wood or coal inside, sometimes glowing bright red because of improper draft. On Saturdays, Essie, Cal and Mom cleaned the house, with the washing and cleaning all supervised by Mom. A large supper. On many Sundays, we were off to grandma Lilly's singing songs with Mom all the way there, where watermelon and making home-made ice cream were sometimes enjoyed by all when the Aunts and Uncles came there also. Fried rabbit, and sometimes a groundhog or fried raccoon were other treats, all cooked on a wood fueled kitchen stove, topped off with a big smile and hug from Grandma, and best of all, Grandma calling me "Little Joe" after my favorite hero, and it made me swell with pride. Cousins joining in with the merriment on many Sundays at Grandma's. Making willow fishing poles and willow stick stringers for fishing in the ditches near Grandma's; digging worms in the ground and knocking caterpillars from the Catalpa trees; picking grapes and berries for Grandma's home-made jams, jellies and pies. Uncle Jesse teasing me and calling me Uncle Rager when my nephew Kevin was born and I was four. I remember Dad taking us to the the movies or going to stock car races, carnivals and parks on numerous times. When going to Grandma Spurgeon's there were always large breakfasts with eggs, pancakes bacon or ham. She smoked a clay pipe when doing chores outside. She played the organ and squeeze box and often let me play these instruments. I was the best at it, Ha. Paul kept Great-Uncle George at bay when he supervised me too closely. Paul was always very protective of me. Dad and Grandma made beautiful music come from many instruments. Cousin Fred Schwanke told me that Dad played the guitar and sang also, and could play most any musical instrument he picked up. Dad taught Mom to play the harmonica and both were very good at it. Dad bought me toy guns, a BB gun that Mom was not happy about, a cast iron, peddle John Deere tractor and a Lionel electric train that had a smoking stack. Dad took me hunting squirrels and made me feel like I was helping by shooting nests with my BB gun. Little did I know that this just made them sit tighter. I was his shadow when I could be with him. And then, all too soon, Dad died. I can't describe the pain I felt and Feel. He was and is my hero. Paul would come and get me often after Dad died and put me to work on the dairy farm. Also, Dallas put me to work on his farm. Cousin Fred Schwanke and his wife Imagene opened their home to me inviting me there always. He took over as a father image in an attempt to ease the pain of the empty spot that was wrenched into my soul when Dad died.
Mom lived most of her retired life in Linden. She spent her time writing poetry and painting pictures. She died at the Ben Hur Nursing home in Crawfordsville on 13 July 2010 after having a sever stroke one week after the death of her son Calvin.

Roger Glen Spurgeon

Roger Glen Spurgeon son of Joseph Thomas and Ermil Maryla Lilly Spurgeon was born on 23 Aug 1949 in Lee, White, Indiana, USA. He married Judy Kay Birge on 18 Oct 1968 in Linden, Montgomery, Indiana, USA.

Roger G. Spurgeon Sr.

I was born during the baby-boom era four years after World War II. My parents, like many others, were still struggling to throw off the deprivations caused by the "Great Depression". Despite this we never went hungry or lacked soap to keep ourselves and our home clean. I had an imaginative childhood and had imaginary Tom Sawyer like adventures. My Mississippi River was a lot smaller and was known as the Little Monon Creek. My friends and I built rafts of inner-tubes and other various materials which were floated up and down the creek. My childhood friends included Roy and Ray Jones, Danny Smith, Rolland Jeffers and my Nephew Kevin. We delighted in visiting the old haunted house, having shoot outs with BB guns and dueling with wooden swords and trash can lid shields. Books of ancient history and movies like "Spartacus" fueled our already vivid imaginations. Corncobs, horse weed stems and dirt clods were often turned into war-time missiles that sometimes found their mark and even brought blood. We most always would brush off the minor pain and continue on with the imagined conflict. Often, on warm days, we would take a break and go to the stone query, south of town, and swim in its crystal clear spring waters.
When I was thirteen or fourteen, Uncle Jesse told me a riddle about ghosts that gave me the idea to pull a prank on a couple of my superstitious friends. Johnny Owens and I talked them into holding a sance on Halloween at midnight. We all acquired candles out of pumpkins that were smashed by goblins and headed toward the cemetery. We circled the grave marked by the largest tombstone in the cemetery. We then lit our candles and chanted in unison, "John G. Doe, what did you die of?" The ghost was supposed to say "Nothing at all, Nothing at all." Silence blanketed our group as our candle flickered in the steady northwest wind. We could hear the wind whispering through the tall thick ceders next to us. Then, out of this silence came a scream from Ray, "I HEARD HIM, I HEARD HIM." Ray's loud and excited voice threw his contagious excitement into all of us and, in a flash we left the cemetery aided by adrenalin flowing in great quantities through our pounding hearts. We the supercilious led the way and stopped only after sprinting four blocks from the cemetery. The last time I talked to Ray, he still believed that he heard the ghost say, "Nothing at all, Nothing at all."
As a teen teenager, most of my time was spent going to school, working on farms, mowing yards, delivering newspapers, water skiing, swimming, hunting and fishing and courting my future bride.
I met my wife in my early teens. We were married October 18, 1968 in the Linden Baptist Church. A few months previously, Uncle Sam had solicited my services and I joined the Marine Corps. My reasons for joining were partly patriotic and partly economic. Many factory employers wouldn't hire young men in fear that they would soon be drafted, so I decided to get my military obligation over. I also felt that it was my duty to do my part in stopping world wide communist aggression. After volunteering, my after thoughts of dying in steamy, tangled jungles were suppressed by my infatuation with my friend and lover, Judy. We were married when I was home on leave from boot camp and lived together for about a month before I received orders to Vietnam. My tour of this West Pacific country was from February of 1969 to March of 1970. During this time, the North Vietnamese Army worked hard to try to terminate my life. Similarly, Uncle Sam's Marine Corps went to extreme measures to eliminate those poor souls of the opposition. Little consideration was given to the safe working conditions of those on either side and despite this, I'm still alive. Or, at least part of me is. My wife said that the person who came back from Vietnam was not the same person who went there. I suppose, the war did severely wound the child part of me, and I'll probably spent the rest of my life trying to revive this part. When I returned from Vietnam, I was told that I could take all my decorations and 25 cents and go the drug store and get a cup of coffee. My Combat Action Ribbon and the remainder of my decorations were seemingly sneered at by our society, our government and the people of Vietnam. This is exemplified by the cool reception of our returning War Vets, the amnesty given to the deserters and the lack of determination shown by the South Vietnamese who failed to stand when the Communists over ran that country. However, I feel no shame for my actions as some war protesters might expect. I do feel shame for my country, swayed by the war protesters and deserters. My country deserted her young Hero's, tore their hearts out and allowed all of those who died, to die in vain. One must not dwell on ugly thoughts such as this, least he become ugly himself. Wars are such vain solutions. I would think if one should have to war, that those left living, and those who would inherit the benefits obtained by the war, would be better off than before the fighting began. This is not so with Vietnam. The anti-war protesters swayed the outcome. The fleeing boat people of Vietnam who risked their lives attempting to get out of Vietnam seemed to verify they were not better off.
Because I was always interested in my father's military service in WWII, and am unable to get his account of it, I am compelled to tell my experiences in Vietnam. I'll start my story in a California air-base. Here is where I remember that the reality of war began to become real to me.
Roger Stevens, Cecil Vanarsdale (friends from basic) and I were sitting in a staging room awaiting the plane that would carry us toward the war in Vietnam. As we were waiting, two M.P.s with pistols walked in and positioned themselves at the doors. I began to try and rationalize the reason for the armed guard; then I panicked. I realized that this was the last chance for me to back out of an uncertain fate. In the combat situation, my life would be an expendable resource in the hands of others. They wouldn't value it as dearly as I. I quickly calmed myself thinking that I knew of no Spurgeon cowards, and I wouldn't be the first. Glancing at my friends, I noticed concern on their faces and began trying to make light of the situation. "Too late to go to Canada now", I said, and got an uneasy smile from my friends. Soon we began cutting up and conversing as normal as the situation would allow. Somehow, I'm sure all of us could relate to what death row in a prison must feel like.
Soon we moved out to board the plane and to our surprise it was a commercial airliner. We were going first class! When we were under way, the pretty stewardess asked if we wanted a cocktail. I told her that I wasn't old enough. A hurt look came over her face, then quickly changed as I perceived she regained her composure. She then stated that we weren't in the United States now and that my age wasn't an issue. I ordered a Bloody Mary, which I thought suitable for the occasion. My friends and I laughed at the fact that were wereenough entofor our country, but not old enough to drink alcohol in it. The plane set down in Hawaii for about a half hour, then resumed toward its destination while we mostly slept the time away. We had a few days lay over in Okinawa, and I went to the dispensary for an ear infection. Then, back on an airliner to finish the trip to Da Nang. We were not sure what to expect when the plane set down at Da Nang. Our anxieties were reinforced with the stewardess' emergency landing instructions. We landed without incident and didn't dodge bullets and mortar rounds as some expected. We were then taken to 3rd Marine Corps division Headquarters and issued orders to our combat regiments. A good friend, Ronnie Wolford had arrived with us. He told us that the 9th Marine Regiment was the one that was the least desired unit to be in, according to the stories told by stateside Vets. The Marines ahead of us in line were getting put in units other than the 9th, but when it came our turn, we were not so lucky. Ronnie got 3/9 and Stevens, Cecil and I were put in Charlie 1/9, better known as the "Walking Dead". One of the office pogy troupe handlers told us that all the Marines in 1/9 got issued body bags to take to the field with them and laughed. We failed to see the humor in it.
By airplane and convoy, we arrived at Quang Tri. Here, we were introduced to some of the lesser desired characteristics of a war camp. Mud from the paths and ruts of trucks built up on our boots and made it difficult to walk. Bile burned with Diesel fuel had a putrid smell that made everything in the camp seem untouchable. The food was horrible and combined with the putrid smell of burning bile, it made eating an unpleasant chore. Showers from cold water barrels on top of wooden frames left me shivering, but I felt a little cleaner.

Operation Dewey Canyon:

After waiting about a week, they issued us rifles and the rest of our war gear and told us to stand by to be joined with our units. After taking off on the helicopter (chopper) en route to my unit, I remember asking myself, "How the hell did I get myself into this mess?". I believe Vanarsdale and Stevens were thinking about the same thing as we looked at the war torn landscape and tangle of jungle and below us. All too soon, the chopper sat down on the edge of a bomb crater and the crew chief yelled at us to get off. We jumped and fell into the crater and the chopper was gone. We were then ordered to run to the top of the hill. We couldn't see the owner of the voice but, it was Marine Corps familiar. Toward the crest of hill, we heard the sound of mortar rounds being fired as well as smelling a horrible rotten smell. Then shouts of incoming and a command of "Get down on the ground" were soon followed by explosions going off around us. Dirt, dust, smoke and shrapnel flew all over and then, as abruptly as it started it ended. The mortars exploding was louder than anything I had ever experienced. I was totally confused and in a state of shock. When it got quiet, I regained my feet and felt much weaker, almost so weak that I couldn't walk, but I made it with the rest to the owner of the voice that commanded the orders to us. We were moved to nearby fox holes and told to be ready to get in them. A marine by the name of Gonzales was next to the hole that I was assigned. He coolly asked me if I had a cigarette. I gave him one, but I had a problem with his attitude. Moments earlier I was running for my life because some damned S.O.B.s were trying to kill me, my heart had been pounding and ready to burst out of my chest and this bastard acted as if nothing had happened. My mind replayed the horrific experience all over again. The reality that I could be Killed here hit me like reality had never done before. The shock of this filled my being, and I was terrified at what could have happened, but didn't. Hello Vietnam! A transformation came over me, and I became serious, real serious, and more than anything, I wanted to live. I had been in the bush for what had been moments and still these moments could have become an eternity. I smoked several cigarettes and asked Gonzales what was that terrible smell. He pointed to a dead North Vietnamese soldier covered with maggots and told me that I had almost tripped on it on my way up. Death seemed to say hello to me as I stared at the corps.
We were then put into vacant positions of the company, and I made myself at home as much as possible. Vanarsdale and I were put in the same squad. Stevens was put in a different platoon of the company. Shortly, Gonzales came down and told me to get my war gear on and ready myself to go out on a listening post. I had no sooner picked up my gear when Gonzales directed me to the center of the command post. A short, Hi, how are you?, introduction to two other members of the detail, instructions and we were off. It had just turned dark. This time of the evening was picked, so that our position wouldn't be observed by the enemy. We went out on a long finger that extended from the hill that the company was dug in on. As we descended the hill on the finger, an insecure feeling came over me and seemed to become greater as we began to get further away from the Command Post. Finally, we arrived at our destination and watches were assigned. I drew a middle watch, and to no avail, tried to sleep wrapped in my poncho liner. Moisture from heavy fog now dripped from the rain forest. My turn of the watch came and I was handed the radio to monitor and told to wake up the other two if anything happened. Near the end of my duty, enemy mortar tubes began pumping out potential death for those on the receiving end. Our Command Post was the target. After my watch, still no sleep. I sat there in an exhausted state, eyes closed at times, but no sleep came to give my body and mind the rest it needed.
The next morning, before daylight, we returned to the C.P. As I neared my foxhole, a detail of men were putting what remained of the men who occupied the foxhole next to mine. One of the dead had just arrived with me the day before. Death, it seemed, didn't care how much time in country you had. They had taken a direct hit with a mortar and were mutilated horribly. I looked away from the mess that used to be living people and felt sick. I was in culture shock. There was no way the Marine corps could have prepared me for this horrible place, other than instill self discipline, which they did. This place was pure hell. Only my death would shorten my tour. Dying quickly like the poor soul who arrived with me might not be the worst option. My thoughts changed shortly to something very important to me, Staying alive.
The remainder of the morning was spent improving the camp site and foxhole. I did manage to get a short nap. Improving the camp site and foxhole turned into a daily routine. Short naps during the day was all I could do as far as sleep was concerned. The fear of sapper teams sneaking up in the night kept my senses alert at night for the remainder of the operation. I worked hard at keeping comfortable, which meant staying dry. The moisture from the continuous night fog saturated most everything. Keeping matches for cigarettes and my poncho liner dry were priorities. I fashioned some logs to sleep on in an attempt to keep out of the mud, but sleep never came, only naps. Trying to get warm was a challenge. My hands had turned blue from the moisture and cool weather. When we cooked C-Rations, we warmed our hands over the heat tabs as we cooked. This was only a temporary solution. Soon, the nagging pain of the coldness returned.
I was placed in 2nd squad, 2nd platoon. Big Mac McCann was our squad leader. With us, the reinforcements, our squad now had five members. Little Mac, McCann and Big Mac took right up since they share their last name. Little Mac had trained to be a Catholic Priest, but dropped out. David Joseph Gonzales was there before I came and the first advice and only advice to me was to forget everything that was taught in infantry training. Good friend Cecil Vanarsdale and myself made up the rest of the squad at this time. At a later time, Powers and Phelps would also become members of the squad. Other platoon members included Sweeny, Paganelle, Bob Munsen and Angus.
All too soon, I was told to get ready to go on a daylight patrol. When our squad was ordered out, we readied our war gear and formed up for the ordeal. While inspecting our equipment Big Mac ordered me to take the point. At this time I didn't know it, but this would be my job in the squad and the platoon when sent out on various missions. I physically obeyed the order but, if Big Mac could have heard my thoughts, I'd have been charged with insubordination. I thought it was outrageous that I be placed as point man on my first patrol. Needless to say, fear of the unknown and the lack of self confidence took its toll on my nervous system. I started up the trail proceeding cautiously, methodically checking out the area in front of me for booby-traps and the enemy. Soon sweat was dripping from my nose. I shook with every step I took. Quickly, Big Mac's patients shortened and he commanded me to move it out faster. This order shot through my mind and I felt my face flush with anger at what I perceived to be a death order. I complied without a word and stretched out my steps and quickened the pace. My full attention almost immediately diverted from my anger and I did what was expected of a point man. I scanned the area looking for anything that might not belong in this jungle, holding my rifle at the ready, while at the same time picking the best route possible through the vegetation. After traveling a ways further down the finger of this mountain, I was ordered to hold up. Our man on the right flank had sighted what proved to be the entrance of an underground hospital. Our tunnel rat came back with his report and evidence of the hospital. Among other things he brought out presents to the North Vietnamese from America. Glass containers of vitamins and an entrenching tool bore stamps which read, "COMPLEMENTS OF BERKLEY UNIVERSITY". It was evident that there were traitors back home. This created quit a stir among the squad and I swore that I burn down the school if I lived to return home. We cleared away from the tunnel and blew it up. We went a ways further down the finger, then returned to the C.P.
Back at camp we rested and made ready for nightfall. We ate supper, picked watches and talked and even joked with each other. I thought of the beauty of the rain forest that I had walked through on the patrol. It was quite different from the bombed out areas that made up my first impressions of the environment we were choppered into. I had never seen a more splendid forest. Its most majestic feature was the tall trees which were branchless to an extreme height, then flowed out at their tops to block most of the sunlight from the ground. The trees were anchored into the ground by three large roots which extended symmetrically at the base of the trunk. One could completely disappear behind the mass of the roots of some of the larger trees. The ground was covered with ferns, moss, vines and leaves. Occasionally, the forest roof would open and other various types of growth would fight for a spot in the sun and often would be very thick.
When the sun fell, watches began. Two would try to sleep while the third kept watch in the foxhole. When it was my turn for the watch, I place two hand grenades on the crest of the foxhole where I could easily get them if needed. We were not allowed to fire our rifles at night if we saw enemy movement, of course unless all hell broke loose. We were to throw grenades, but were warned by Big Mac if we threw grenades there had best be at least a blood trail left by the enemy. Moisture from the heavy fog caused limbs from the trees to fall and the eerie mist and darkness cause ones imagination to work overtime. My eyes would play tricks on me and several times I saw movement in the jungle. Because of this and the stress, it was possible to imagine seeing enemy soldiers moving through the mist. I knew that my eyes were fooling me, but I picked up a grenade after being on watch for about a half an hour. Suddenly, the sound of an M-16 rifle violated the sounds of the forest, causing all not on watch to jump into their foxholes. Others in the company joined in and began firing. Big Mac came running and cursing down the hill and commanded all to cease firing. He shortly got it, then chewed out the marine who started the firing and went cursing back up the hill. Firing a rifle at night made you a target, easily seen by the enemy. It wasn't a smart thing to do, unless a battle ensued. We were allowed to smoke at night if we pulled our ponchos over our heads at the bottom of our foxhole and not allow any light to show from it. If one allowed the light to show, he wasn't allowed to smoke at night. We policed ourselves on this since nobody wanted to be targeted by the enemy.
Later, a day, three days?, we received word to be ready to move out. We took down our ponchos, folded them neatly and fastened them to our utility belts. All our gear was neatly packed and we picked up c-rations, mortar rounds and cans of machine gun ammo which added weight to our already heavy load. A marine carried sixty to eighty pounds when the company changed locations. Our platoon was located in the middle of the column, so I didn't have to take the point. Soon we were taking a scenic tour of the Ho Chi Mien Trail.
I was enchanted with the beauty of the country that we walked through. Since I was in the middle of the column, I could enjoy the majesty of the trees, vines and spotty show of fauna. This kept my attention until the heat from the sun and my own energy began to diminish along with my comfort. The march became almost unbearable as profuse sweating drench us and our clothes. Pesky insects added to the discomfort. The column held up and word was passed that there would be a "fire in the hole" (engineers blowing up equipment). I never saw what they blew up, nor did I care. What I did care about was that I was getting a break. The insects really zeroed in on us. After about a half hour the march resumed. Almost as soon, the effects of the break disappeared and pack straps dug into our soaking wet uniforms. In an hour or two, a few peculiar sounding automatic rifle bursts sounded and the column stopped marching and took cover or concealment. Word was passed to us that we were held up by sniper fire. Then there was more firing and the column moved our again. One of the old salts told me that the peculiar popping sound was from an Enemy AK-47 automatic rifle. This sound soon became familiar. As we marched, the AK-47 reported several times. This continued several times though we didn't stop. Finally the Ak-47 sounded again and was followed by shots from an M-16 and a LAW (disposable Lightweight anti-tank weapon). The LAW silenced the AK-47. We marched until late in the afternoon when we halted again. We were all out of water and there was a mud puddle next to the trail where we stopped for a break. We put our handkerchiefs over the top of our canteens and filled them with water and added purification tablets. The water tasted nasty, but it was wet. Word came down that we were setting up on the top of the hill. After a short wait, Big Mac showed us our positions and we began to fortify and after that build our hutches.
There were foxholes and tunnels made by the North Vietnamese already on this hill. We made our own, preferring not to use the enemy's. However, we did investigate the tunnels and checked out the entire perimeter area. One of the tunnels, on the other side of the hill, held a large cash of rifles, ammo, mortar rounds, rocked propelled grenades and launchers, 122 rockets and tons of rice. I was on the same side of the hill that the mud puddle was found. I found a trench that was used to keep the water from the fortifications . The trench drained into the mud puddle from which we filled our canteens. Thinking of midnight trips to relieve myself, I poured the water out. The remainder of our team followed suit.
Also, here we daily ran patrols, ambushes, spent our turn on perimeter watch nightly, and took turns on going outside the perimeter on listening post duties. When night time came, we followed the same drill each night, unless we were chose to go on listening posts or killer team ambushes. On perimeter watch we were assigned a position on a company 360 degree perimeter. There were three men assigned to a position where they dug foxholes. Each stood watch for a third of the night. On a killer team, only four or five men went out to a chosen spot and set up ambush. A hit and run tactic was used because of the low number of men that made up our company. On a listening post, usually three men were sent outside the perimeter about a thousand yards and stood watch for enemy movement coming near the perimeter. They were given a radio and checked in hourly. These duties were performed nightly when in the bush. Sometimes contact was made with the enemy on ambushes, sometimes there was no contact. Sometimes we were ambushed. It was like this throughout my tour.
We were never up to strength. I think that we got more men in the squad at this time, though I'm not sure. We were resupplied and the supply choppers took out the captured rifles and rice. We were given rifles as souvenirs if we wanted. I took an SKS rifle which was still packed in grease. What wasn't hauled out was destroyed with explosives. When the sun appeared the next day we were on the road again, till we found something or met resistance. The drill was pretty much the same over, I don't know how many days, but they were numerous.
Soon the fog failed to lift and the temperature dropped to the 40's Fahrenheit. After the fog failed to lift during the day, we stayed put because we were not able to get the air support, etc. that we needed to push on. The following month or so, became nightmarish. Exposer to the elements made us all miserable. Supplies could not be brought in to us because of the risk of enemy fire of dislocated choppers. Sometime after the first week of going without food, we were ordered to eat our emergency long ration. Later in the week, one of the guys brought out a long ration, ate half of it, and auctioned off the remainder. It sold for over $250, and only at that low of a price, because no one had more money.
When our resupply situation was at its lowest, our strength diminished. We were extremely weak and patrols going out of the command post (C.P.) were grueling. Attempts of resupplying us by parachute drops were inadequate for they never hit their target. We were sent out on patrols to find the parachuted pallets of food but seldom found them. Our squad was able to find one pallet and it was so far from the C.P. that carrying it back became a major chore. We were able to get a meal or two from a drop, then would go a long length of time till another was found. The enemy soon discovered our dilemma and began to harass us with ambushes when we went on patrol. On one of the patrols we were caught in the open when ambushed. One of our men had a rocket propelled grenade go off right in front of him. A fragment of the rocket had creased his helmet and caused a horribly bloody mess of his head. The corpsman looked at him and decided he was dead, picked up his rifle, and began firing at the enemy. When the fire fight was over, the dead man came to life and began moaning. When we returned to the C.P., our company commander (Captain Kelly) told the wounded marine that he could keep his dented helmet and take it home as a souvenir. This seemed to enlighten the wounded Marine's spirit somewhat. During one of the contacts with the enemy, I received a hot sting on my posterior from a rocket propelled grenade (RPG). This was one of the two minor wounds that I received while in Vietnam. I didn't turn it in.
One incident at this location was thought to be very funny by me and others, but was at the expense of the poor fellow it happened to. About mid-morning a guy from another location on the hill came searching for a latrine. Before he found it, the sound of enemy mortar tubes firing caused all of us to dive for cover. Several marines yelled "Incoming", which was followed by the rounds exploding around us. Then, we heard a massive amount of cursing coming from the direction of the latrine. We popped up from our holes and saw the poor fellow who was looking for the latrine was holding his hands away from himself. He was slinging them and trying to get something off of them. The unfortunate had sighted the latrine and dove in head first to evade the mortars. He was covered with brown from head to foot. Me and my friends laughed so long and so hard that our stomachs hurt. His vocal protest to our amused reaction added to the hilarity.
Finally, one night, it quit raining and the fog lightened up. I had been sleeping in the mud on tree limbs for what seemed and eternity. The following morning I decided to improve my situation and fashioned a hammock from my poncho liner and com-wire. The following night I rested for the first time in the warm, dry, unlumppy hammock. That morning, in half dream, I heard the sound of mortars and people yelling. Someone yelled, "Where's Spurgeon", and I aroused from my half dream state. A loud explosion nearby awoke me fully and bailed out of the hammock, weapon in hand and dove into my fox hole. We were under attack. Bullets from the enemy's automatic weapons kicked up dirt all around me. Mortars, RPGs and who knows what were falling all around the company's positions. A large force of North Vietnamese Army was attacking us. I fired back from the hole that Angus and I shared and when I did enemy automatic fire bore down on our position. After a while, a large fallen tree that was directly behind our hole, began to splinter from the intense enemy fire. We used up all our loaded magazines. Then reloaded from the bandoleers as we fought back. How long the battle went on, I don't know, but it seemed hours. A command came to stay down in our holes, that we were getting close air support came down. We gladly obeyed. Within moments the 1st Marine Aircraft Wing bore down on the Enemy position from us. The positions were only about 100 yards across the ravine. The 1st Marines dropped hell on the enemy. Sticks and limbs were falling into our hole from the explosions as I rejoiced in thedevastationn beingdealtt to the enemy. The enemy's attack ceased. Then word came from the C.P. to stay in our holes but stand by to move into choppers. We were overjoyed.
After what seemed only a few moments, a fire fight broke out to the left of our hole. The NVA were trying to over run our perimeter. After a short while several of us were ordered to the fire fight and help evacuate some of our fallen. Mortars and bullets were still flying when we got into the area. We quickly moved up the to the Marine line and picked up one of the wounded. His legs were blown off below the knees by a mortar round. He pleaded for us not to forget his legs and we loaded them up too. I was so weak that I don't know how I continued to move. We took the wounded back, still under fire. Then the NVA attack stopped at least for the moment.
Back at our foxhole we threw our gear together and waited to be taken out by helicopter. The helicopter landing zone was directly above our hole at the crest of the hill. A helicopter (chopper) came in to pull out the wounded and was hit by enemy small arms fire and mortars followed. The commander of the choppers told our commander that the zone was too hot and that they couldn't pick our company up. An Army chopper group was monitoring the situation and volunteered to extract us. Soon the company began to get out of the jungle. My team was the next to the last to be extracted. After we boarded,, I kept tense until we were clear of the area. My friends and I had made it out of our first operation alive. This was the end of Operation Dewey Canyon for Charlie Company, 1st Battalion, 9th Marines in the A-Shau Valley. I joined with my company sometime in February and we were taken out of the valley sometime in March of 1969.
After we landed we found out that were were going to get two restnlast andperation. We had been without food for a long time and all of us were extremely poor. Powers feeling badly about his condition complained that he had whithered away to nothing. When he arrived in country he was a lot larger.
At my first meal, I inhaled the food, drank milk and filled my shrunken stomach. I didn't really eat much. A few steps outside the mess tent I vomited. My system couldn't tolerated food. After a few more meals my body was excepting food normally.
Later, we embarked on to naval river patrol boats and were moved to a place on the ocean call Qua Viet. I felt very vulnerable riding on the open deck of the river patrol boats. There was no concealment or cover. Luckily we made no contact with the enemy and reached our destination after a several hour river cruise. Most of us were covered in jungle rot. Our corpsman mandated that we all soak in the ocean's salt water to get rid of our infections. It did the job and we healed nicely. On the beach were the remains of amphibious landing craft, most of them blown to pieces. There wasn't much of this country that was untouched by the war. All too soon our short vacation ended, then we got back on the river boats and were moved up river. Then we loaded on to trucks and were taken to CampVandagriftf or LZ Stud as we called it.
After arriving at LZ Stud we were issued new trousers and shirts. By this time none of us wore underwear because we carried no change of clothing into the bush except socks. After a while the underwear would begin to rot and were thrown away anyway. I did learn from my starving experience of Dewy Canyon in A-Shau Valley. Whenever we captured enemy rice, I filled two socks with it. I never went hungry for long again.
Our old Platoon Commander was replaced by Lt. Adkins. I don't remember the name of the Lieutenant that was replaced. When we first met Lt. Adkins, the platoon was called to formation. He introduced himself and visually inspected us and ordered us to shine our boots. We all thought he was joking and started laughing. It was not a joke and he stood there shocked speechless as we laughed. Our Platoon Sargent, Sgt. Lafayette Bronston, nicknamed The Monster took him to the side and explained a few things to him. The Monster hacharismaticatic personality and everybody loved him and The Monster knew what was going on. Adkins was straight from the states and was not aware of the combat culture of our Vietnam environment.

Our Sparrow Hawk Mission:

On our second formation we were called to, Lt. Adkins stated he had some exciting news to tell us. He had just volunteered our platoon to go on a mission to rescue a recon company that was located in the middle of an area infested by the North Vietnamese Army. My opinion of Lt. Adkins was now at an all time low of him. I was not alone in my thoughts as other platoon members expressed the same opinion. The news was exciting all right. Down right terrifying. I believe that when volunteers were asked for, it was for a suicide mission. In a short time we put on our war gear and (I think) headed to the helicopter pad. Sometimes we were choppered to to our destination other times we were transped by truck. My memory of my Vietnam experiences is somewhat lacking in some instances. Possibly caused by the trauma of the war and the fact that the war has been almost 30 years past when I started writing this. Over forty years have passed on the part I'm writing now. After writing and refreshing my memories, I become severely depressed and have to quit writing. Back to the story.
After being inserted into the mountainous jungle near to the recon team we were rescuing, I was ordered to take point. Walking on a ridge there was sometimes a path to follow and sometimes triple canopy vegetation. I had been issued what I call a corn knife to cut the dense growth, but found it difficult to use because it often hit vines and growth causing the knife to glance before it hit my target. At my request my wife Judy had purchased a K-bar survival knife and sent it to me. This was far more efficient to clear the paths for those behind me. Lt. Adkins was in communication with an aerial observer that was directing our way to our objective. After moving a ways down the ridge, with sweat soaking my clothes and running into my eye, I followed the Lt's direction to turn right. I did so and while cutting growth fell straight down catching my fall with arms spread open on vegetation at the ground. The Lt. reached down and pulled me up by the back of my flack jacket. Lucky I had caught myself, because a closer inspection of the spot a few foot further revealed a drop off of about a forty foot drop. I could have easily slid on down a couple of feet and fell off the drop off. We were then directed to go a little further down the ridge to a descending ridge. Starting down the ridge the vegetation was so thick that I requested the Lt. to take my rifle so I could cut more efficiently. He readily took the rifle and had the platoon set down while I cut a path through to the bottom. After reaching the bottom and starting up the hill where the recon company was located, I became dizzy and fell down, then passed out for a short while. The next thing I know I was being carried up the hill. I protested stating that I could walk. I was told to shut up and they continued carrying me.
Having reached the top of the hill, the Lt. set up perimeter defense. I found out that a recon team had been observing North Vietnamese Army (NVA) movements were discovered and engaged by the enemy. They called in Puff the Magic Dragon (a large slow moving airplane gunship fitted with mini-guns and cannon) for support. Puff could put a round every nine inches for the length of a football field. While firing support for the recon team it hit them as well as the enemy. One of the wounded died at our arrival at their position. Several more recon teams were sent in to try and recover the first team, but three of their helicopters were shot down. So ending up on the hill was a recon company and three helicopter crews. After securing the hill another helicopter (chopper) was called in to extract the dead and the wounded. As soon as it began to land we were hit by the NVA with heavy small arms fire. Trying to get them out of this area by chopper was aborted. We then picked up the dead and wounded and other survivors and began a march to find a place for a safe extraction. I have no idea how many casualties there were. I and three other Marines were assigned to carry the Marine who had just died when we arrived at the recon teams area. The next two day in grueling hot temperatures we marched trying to find a suitable place to get the dead in wounded extracted. On the first day while taking a short break, I saw movement on a parallel ridge from ours. I reported it and it was found that it was just a troupe of large monkeys or apes. In retrospect, the troupe was probably scared up by the NVA for they had been following us. On the second day of the march we found a spot where we thought we could get an extraction, but to our dismay, again we were hit by the NVA when an extraction was tried. All of us in the platoon were still weakened by our starving experience in Operation Dewey Canyon. When the chopper came in they were able to drop some food and a new sergeant. We all tried to eat, but couldn't even get a few bites down. The dead marine that we were carrying had swollen up by the heat and had busted. All of us who were carrying him had his body fluids leaking onto our legs. To top it off, this idiot sergeant began to micromanage us. We had no tolerance for his foolishness. One Marine in our platoon pushed the sergeant to the ground with the point of his rifle, then stuck the barrel in his mouth stating "This rifle is the only one here that will pass out orders. Now shut your $#@%& MOUTH". The sergeant went to the front of the platoon where the Lt. was and I never saw him again. I heard later that he requested a transfer and it was given to him. The new sergeant was lucky, at least he survived the ordeal.
The next day and last day we, marched carried and dragged our burdens over a rugged trail of the jungle covered foothills. In a valley we found an area cleared of foliage by Agent Orange (I say agent orange in retrospect. At the time we knew nothing about it). We crossed it. The NVA wouldn't follow us through the open area. Medavacs were made and we were choppered back to LZ Stud. From here on out, as far as I know, Lt. Adkins never volunteered for any other assignments.

My Best Friend, Cecil
Cecil Vanarsdale, LZ Stud Charlie 1/9 Company area: An unsung Combat Marine HERO. During Operation Apache Snow he came to my aid when ambushed; running back down the mountain to lay down support with his M-79 for my fire team caught in the open on the mountain side. He yelled "Hang on Spurgeon, I'm coming" all the way to us. His heroic action helped turn the tide of the ambush AND is the reason I am able to write this record. During Operation Utah Mesa Charlie Company was ambushed by a large NVA force. Our point element was missing and I was ordered to take my fire team down the trail of death to find the three missing men. Going down this trail Cecil who remained with the remainder of the company saw the .50 Caliber Machine Gun of the NVA, but couldn't get through the vegetation of the jungle with his M-79. He grabbed an M-60 Machine Gun, stood up exposing himself to the enemy fire and took out the enemy emplacement as we proceeded to bring the fallen Heroes of our point element back to our defensive position. On this tragic day Nine brave Heroes of Charlie Company were KIA and 14 were wounded. It often haunts my memory. Cecil has since died of cancer, possibly due to Agent Orange exposure in Vietnam. He was a true friend and risked his life to save mine. He is my Brother. Soldiers are still dying because of Agent Orange!
Some stories with me and Cecil:
When we reached Con Thien, our destination, we unloaded from the trucks. Here we saw men sweeping the road for mines. They indicated that the NVA mined the road frequently. We moved into the compound that was surrounded by razor wire and mine fields. We learned where the path was through the mine field and always made sure we were on it. Vanarsdale, Gonzales and I were assigned to one of the bunkers. We were now guarding Con Thien, running patrols, blowing tunnels and going on listening posts, pretty much the same as in the previous areas, except we hardly made contact with the NVA. When going on patrols, sometimes we loaded up on Army tanks that were assigned there and rode to our destination, which was usually was at an area riddled with NVA tunnels. On one such patrol the tank that my squad was riding on hit a land mine placed in the jungle by the NVA. When the explosion happened it threw me high into the air and I landed on the ground flat on my back, knocking the wind completely out of me. I tried to get up but my legs wouldn't move. They would not respond to me trying to get up. I thought that I might have been hit and checked them for blood and wounds but found none. The squad leader kept screaming for me to get up, but the legs wouldn't cooperate. Finally, they responded and I did as I was ordered. The driver of the tank was messed up somewhat, but no one was seriously injured. After looking at the massive damage to the track and wheels of the tank and the hole blew into the ground by the blast, I don't understand why somebody wasn't hurt badly. God must have been watching over us.
At Con Thien we were on the DMZ and very close to North Vietnam territory. To the north of our bunker, way out in the distance, the NVA had erected a very large flag of North Vietnam for all to see. Long hours of standing perimeter duty was very boring. Some of the men would go into the bunkers and fire their rifles at the flag. The sand bags of the bunker muffled the sound of the rifles. We did many things to remedy our boredom. We practiced knife throwing using our bayonets with sand bags as target. Some would wiggle the projectile of a 50 cal. tracer around in it's case and fashion a mortar round out of it. The tracer projectile would make a sizzling sound as it flew through the air causing those who were unaware of it to drop to the ground for cover. I got a lot of laughs from it. At night we would go a few bunkers over and visit the snipers stationed there. They welcomed us and allowed us to scan the area through their night vision equipment. This gave them a break from their job.
Shortly after we arrived an NVA sniper began to harass us. I took notice that he would fire at us every day at about the same time. On about the third day of his harassment, about five minutes before the time he fired, I dropped down into a fox hole next to our bunker. The guys with me laughed and thought I was foolish for my action. As they laughed at me, the sniper opened up on them. Their laughs fell short and, after that, they followed my lead and got down into their holes at that time.
Possible because of our behavior cause by boredom we were instructed to change positions on the perimeter. We were moved to the south side. When cleaning up our new bunker, previously occupied by officers, Vanarsdale found a partly filled bottle of whiskey. We began looking under sandbags and found the better part of two fifths of whiskey. We didn't want to get anyone in trouble for having this contraband and rather than waste it, we decided to drink it. After we drank most of it, one of our instigating neighbors told us that there was a stash of C-ration fruit and a few poncho liners left at a listening post just beyond the mine field. We jumped at the chance of getting these valuable commodities and promptly headed in the direction of the listening post. Vanarsdale told me not to bring my rifle, rationalizing we could carry more back without them.
Within a short time, we had staggered about three quarters the way through a safe lane of the mine field when I heard the popping sound of a rifle round going over our heads. I said, "Vanarsdale, we're getting shot at". Vanarsdale replied "No were not". After a few more steps, again I heard the report of the rounds over our heads only louder. Again I relayed to Vanarsdale that we're being shot at. He told me that I was imagining things. Within a few more step, bullets were splashing up the ground around us. I said, "See there Arsdale, I told you we were being shot at". He replied, "Your right". A few steps further I asked, "Think we aught to run?" and with that we did our best to run to the listening post as well as our drunken condition would allow.
Upon arriving at the listening post, we found it to be empty of the valuables that we had came for. I stood up several times and taunted the sniper by sticking my thumbs in my ears, wiggling my fingers and making faces at him. He was probably laughing too hard at us to shoot and quit firing. We then headed back through the mine field.
About half way back to our destination we saw a Marine waving his arms and shouting something at us. It was Lt. Adkins. When we got close enough to hear what he was saying, he instructed us to go to our bunker and get ready to receive office hours (disciplinary procedures). The next thing I can remember we were sitting in the bunker receiving a tongue lashing from the Lt. He explained that our behavior had been very bad and that we could expect to receive harsh discipline, even be sent to the brig. I knew enough to keep quiet, but Vanarsdale didn't. He looked at the Lt. and said, "What ya gonna do to us Lt.; send us to Vietnam?" My heart sank, thinking that Vanarsdale had sealed our fate with his statement and we would be sent to the brig. The Lt. just sat there for a moment, then stated in a raised voice, Oh Hell; Get the Hell out of here. Later I found out that I was no longer a fire team leader, but other than that nothing more was said and it was not entered on our permanent military record.
Operation Utah Mesa, The Walking Dead
Page 2, Charlie 1/9 Operation Utah Mesa June 12-30 1969, The Vietnam Center and Archives, 3rd Mar Div Message Sit Reps, Doc # 12010350119
A note from The Virtual Wall:
"On 18 June 1969 the 1/9 Marines were under the operation control of the 1st Brigade, 5th (US) Infantry Division, participating in Operation Utah Mesa on the Khe Sanh Plateau, where three battalions of 577th Regiment, 304 NVA Division, were known to be located.

Reports of the 18 June action involving Charlie 1/9 can be found in the 1/9 and HQ MACV Command Chronologies for June 1969. The 1/9 Chronology states that
At 1030H, Company C entered a well entrenched enemy .50 caliber machine-gun position with automatic weapons and suffered 9 KIA'S AND 14 WIA's. The company assaulted and secured the position and directed air strikes on the enemy situated on the high ground. Artillery was called in as the enemy withdrew into a draw. A total of 35 enemy were killed...
The location was 4 miles Southwest of Khe Sanh. Our brave Hero's who gave their lives were:
2nd Lt. Gary W. Letson
Cpl Enrique Miramontez
Hm3 Paul A. Rezendes (Corpsman)
LCpl Edward W. Charles
LCpl Frank Cruz
HN Thomas D. Naughton (Corpsman)
Pfc Michael D. Boyer
Pfc Robert G. Carr
Pfc Walter J. Griffin
and killed earlier that morning Pfc Stephen Orosco of Alpha 1/9"
My memories:
On June 17, 1969, Charlie Co. had marched into a very hilly grassy area and set up a 360 for the night. After digging foxholes and supper Lt. Adkins, our 2nd Platoon Commander came by our position with a great big smile on his face. He then proceeded to inform us of President Nixon's decision that would very soon get us taken out of Vietnam. We were all very excited about the news, but were still aware that we were still the NVA'S #1 target. After the sun went down Cecil told me that someone had hit him with a rock. Soon another followed from outside of our position. I sent word of this strange movement to the Lieutenant. Soon the Lieutenant came to our position and explained that the movement was happening all around our platoon's positions. We were to stand by inside of our fox holes each of us with a grenade and throw it when he yelled the command. This we did and after the many explosions I heard scuffling through the grass that surrounded us. However there was no other movement detected that night. The next morning the area was checked out and blood trails found as well as tramped down areas in the grass where our enemy had been.
We began our march toward the triple canopy that morning. Third Platoon took the point. Second Platoon was behind them. I was somewhere in the middle of second platoon and had just made the crest of the next hill when all hell broke loose. I started to move over the crest, but was ordered to stay where I was by Big Mac. A large firefight was taking place and I was unable to know what was going on. The fight died down but didn't stop all together. I was order to the Lieutenant's position on the enemy's side of the hill. He told me that we were missing our 3 point men and told me to take my fire team down the trail, find them and bring them back. Immediately we snooped and pooped down the trail of death where our fallen Hero's and NVA soldiers alike lay dead. Bodies laid on both sides of the downward winding trail. There was no cover but it still had good concealment from the vegetation. About half way down the trail our men opened up and it was soon followed by a Huey Gunship flying over the top of us and firing into the enemy's position in front of us. The gunship went over us several times as we wound down the trail. When we reached the bottom and turned a corner we found our missing HEROES. They had been stripped of everything but their utilities. It was evident that they had been murdered after being wounded. Little Mac lost it when seeing this and emptied his weapon in the area where the enemy were. We picked up the Heroes and drug them back to our perimeter. I found out later that Cecil had spotted the 50 Cal. position and since his M-79 wouldn't penetrate the vegetation of the jungle had taken an M-60 machine gun away from its crew, stood up exposing himself and took out the men manning the 50 Cal. Machine Gun position. Again Cecil had come to my aid. Had he not done so, when we rounded to corner to pick up our fallen Heroes the 50 Cal would have taken out my fire team. We then choppered out our dead and wounded. We then proceeded through the enemy's entrenched position where they had left many of their dead. Then we marched the rest of the day and set up a 360 at the crest of a mountain. We cleared fields of fire. In a day or two we were choppered off this mountain at the same time that 3/9 was inserted into our position.

From an Internet website:
"Acting on intelligence reports that enemy units had infiltrated the area south and east of the old Khe Sanh Combat Base, 3d Marine Division headquarters created a joint task force to deploy Marine, army, and ARVN units into the area. Operation Utah Mesa began on l2 June, when 1/9 moved onto FSB Bison northeast of Khe Sanh. The 3d Battalion, 2d ARVN Regiment occupied nearby FSB Quantico. While these units swept west, three companies of U.S. Army mechanized infantry would advance west along Route 9.
The NVA reacted to this intrusion by launching a series of night attacks against the allied units. The first came against Company B, 61st U.S. Infantry on l8 June. Before dawn that day, the NVA hit the soldiers' night defensive position located just east of Lang Vei. After breaking through the perimeter, the NVA swarmed over the NDP, fighting the soldiers at close quarters. The NVA pulled out at dawn, leaving forty-one bodies behind. The U.S. Army units lost eleven killed and fifteen wounded.
A few hours later, a recon patrol from Company C, 1/9, was am bushed three kilometers southeast of Khe Sanh. The fight started when the NVA raked the patrol with .50-caliber machine-gun fire, instantly killing three Marines. The patrol's survivors then attacked, destroying the enemy machine gun. Soon joined by the remainder of Company C, the riflemen assaulted the enemy's defensive line, driving them southward into a wall of artillery fire.
Two days later, after having continued their westward push, the allied force was hit again. In three separate ground attacks the NVA assaulted the combined NDP of Company D, 1/9, and Company B, 1/61. Though they had to call in air strikes, artillery, and helicopter gunships, the Marines and soldiers held, killing twenty-seven NVA."
On 23 June, 1/9 was pulled out of the field and returned to Vandergrift Combat Base. There, the battalion's equipment was up graded and its personnel was mix-mastered. On 12 July, the battalion moved to Da Nang. Two days later, the unit boarded the USS Paul Revere and sailed for Okinawa.
After my tour of the West Pacific, I went to San Diego, California and became a Drill Instructor. Judy came to live with me in California and, our son Roger Glen Jr. was born in the San Diego Naval Hospital. Having completed my tour of high stress in the Marine Corps our family located in Crawfordsville, Indiana. I worked at R.R. Donnelly and Sons Company as a bindery man. Here, I was promoted to a set-packer and then to Building Maintenance. In 1972, we had a home built outside of Wingate, located on Old State Road 55. Julia Kay was born in the Culver Union Hospital at Crawfordsville. In 1977, I changed jobs and, went to work at ALCOA in Lafayette, Indiana. After ten months there as a sawyer, I was promoted to Unit Supervisor. All the while, I maintained a position in the Indiana National Guard. Here, I started out as a Field Medic in Crawfordsville, Then, transferred to Frankfort, where I became the Platoon Sergeant of Scout Platoon. When I quit the National Guards, I was Assistant Artillery Field Commander in Battalion Headquarters Company. In the late 1980's, I quit the guards to have time to attend Purdue University. While working full time at ALCOA, I earned a Bachelor of Arts Degree, with my major in psychology. I lack only three coursed to earn a second major in History. In 1994, I was down sized out of ALCOA along with many others who were nearing a retirement , or making good money, or both. Disillusioned with big business factories, I began driving expedited freight, but after two years quit the because the pay was not enough to support a family. I worked for about 2 years at Master Guard in Veedersburg, Indiana and was in charge of quality on the night shift of MG2 department. I made several trips to the NUMMI auto plant in Freemont, California to remedy quality issues on Master Guard's bumper products. Still fed up with factories, I quit Master Guard and went to work as a Correctional Officer at the Rockville Correctional Facility. After 2 1/2 years at Rockville, I was promoted to Correctional Sergeant. Then on September 23, 2007, I was promoted to the position of Casework Manager.
My wife, Judy Kay, was born in Culver Union Memorial Hospital at Crawfordsville. She grew up in Linden, Indiana where she graduated from Linden, High School. She learned how to make clothing from her mother and often made her own clothes.
At the age of 14, she met me while baby-sitting for my Nephew and Niece. She was a member of the Linden Baptist Church and was baptized October 23, 1966 at the New Richmond Christian Church by the Baptist minister, Reverend Williams. Judy was very active in the church and taught Bible School and Sunday School for several years. After we were disgusted with public school, Judy was instrumental in teaching our children in home school. Judy's life revolved around her family and, both her and I agreed, that she should work at home and raise our children. Presently, Judy and I live at Lake Holiday Hideaway, Kingman, Indiana. She keeps our house, cans food, makes wonderful jelly and helps me mow. I can't keep her off the mower. We now have three grandchildren, Sadie, Kisiah and Travis Jr. We look forward to their visits.
Judy is a descendant of Robert Mason and Johann Frederic Beck. These progenitors of Judy and our children are shown in another part of this record. Her father Cletis Edward Birge, was the son of James Thomas Birge and Cloe Irene Basil. James' father was Jesse and his mother Demaris Bartlett. Chloe's mother was Bessie Grimsley and her father John Basil. John Basil ran a cornwhiskey still in Thompkinsville, Kentucky while his son-in-law James Thomas Birge delivered the outlawed spirits. James Thomas Birge moved to Indiana with his young family when Cletis was a young boy. Cletis said that one of his grandmothers was a Native American, Cherokee. Cletis' prankster cousin Homer was responsible for the Big Foot scare that made the national media headlines in the early 1950's. Further research is needed on these families.
This research and my own writings on my life and my family's is dedicated to my children and grandchildren so that they might know from where they came. Their pedigree is as good as anyone's in the entire world. They need to know that whatever they endeavor, or what ever they wish to become is within their grasp. My father told me, "Your no better than any one else in the world, AND your no worse."

Roger and Judy Birge Spurgeon

Roger Glen Spurgeon Junior

Julia Kay Spurgeon

Maysadie, Travie and Kisiah our Grandchildren


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