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Looking for Alexander Sutherland Allan NZ

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He died in Wellington, New Zealand 27 January 1900, age 69.
married Elizabeth Rosian HUNTLEY in New Zealand in 1858
She died in Wellington, New Zealand 25 April 1919 age 79
There is no births recorded in NZ for either.

I found birth and baptism for woman of the same name but cannot find immigration.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Elizabeth Rosian Huntley
Name: Elizabeth Rosian Huntley
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1839
Registration district: Clerkenwell
Inferred County: London
Volume: 3
Page: 36

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Elizabeth Rosian Huntley
Name: Elizabeth Rosian Huntley
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 15 Jan 1840
Father's Name: Robert Henry Huntley
Mother's name: Elizabeth Huntley
Parish or Poor Law Union: Clerkenwell St James
Borough: Islington
Register Type: Parish Registers

I need Immigration records to prove the above is HER
and same for Alexander + a birth
I have decendants.
I found a R. H. Huntley as a signatory on a Memorial to Governor Fitzroy
19 April 1845. If that is her father immigration would have to be between 1839 and 45

Surnames: ALLAN HUNTLEY
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on 2012-10-23 11:49:33

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by ngairedith on 2012-10-23 17:25:29

her father, Robert Henry Huntly was the School Master at the Catholic Mission around Ecans Bay way, Wellington
The earlies I can find him, at the moment, is 1852

by ngairedith on 2012-10-23 17:48:45

Elizabeth Rosian actually died in Oliver street, Remuera, Auckland at her daughter, Mary Catherine's home. Mary married Godfrey Lincoln Lee

by ngairedith on 2012-10-23 18:15:42

the above should read Evans Bay, an inlet between Mt Victoria and the Miramar Peninsula. So, it was after 1852 that he became a Registrar of the Wellington Supreme Court. WHen I get home tonight I will go through all the ships lists (always a daunting venture)

by janilye on 2012-10-23 22:24:14

Thanks NG I am confident now that the Elizabeth Rosian Huntley born in 1839, London is one and the same. I am pretty confident that R. H. Huntley is Robert Henry Huntley, her father. If so, immigration was before 1845, when he signed the Memorial. I found this notice:
Evening Post, Volume V, Issue 219, 25 October 1869, Page 3
By command. R, H. HUNTLEY, Overseer of Domains. Wellington, 14th October. SEPARATE TENDERS for the removal of night soil and the contents of ashpits from the General Government Offices, Ministerial Residence, &c, and also for sweeping chimneys, will be received at the Colonial Secretary's office, Wellington, up to noon on Thursday, the 28th inst. For particulars apply at the office of the Overseer of Domains, Wellington. By command, R. H. HUNTLEY, Overseer of Domains.
and this one in 1868;
THE Annual Meeting of No. 1 Company of the Wellington Rifle Volunteers will be held at Osgood's Hotel, on Monday, the 2nd November, 1868, at 8 o'clock p.m. precisely. Members are particularly requested to attend. By order, R. H. HUNTLEY, Hon. Sec. Wellington, 23rd Oct.
The above coupled with what you have tells me R. H. was pretty well connected in NZ with several titles and the only R. HUNTLEY death registered in NZ from 1869 to 1920 is Robert Henry.
I really only needed Immigration for the 'Huntleys' but now my curiosity about R. H. is aroused.
I have nothing yet of the history of Alexander Sutherland Allan 1831-1900 although I've found a few with the same name.

by ngairedith on 2012-10-24 08:16:54

whilst doing a journal for you, interesting find ...
25 March 1870 - TOWN ACRE 493, Bolton Street, Wellington
... Mr J. H. Wallace is instructed by the Mortgagees to sell by public auction, at his Land Mart, Hunter-street, on Tuesday, 29th March, at 2 o'clock p.m., all that delightfully situated town acre 493, Bolton-street, tastefully laid out and cultivated, together with the two substantially built residences, in the occupation of Mr R. H. HUNTLY and Mr A. S. ALLAN

also, to give you something to go on: Alexander Sutherland ALLAN (1831-1900) was born in Stromness, Orkney, Scotland 9 April 1839, a son of William ALLAN & Jessie SUTHERLAND. He died 27 January 1900 aged 69 at his residence, Featherston Terrace, Wellington (now Newman Terrace)
- he is buried Plot 54 B, ROM CATH, at Karori cemetery, Wellington

by ngairedith on 2012-10-24 09:55:32

Robert Henry Huntley was a volunteer pioneer in the war of 1845, present at the taking of the pas of the Maori Chiefs, Pomare, [rl=http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/biographies/1k4/1]Te Ruki Kawiti[/url] and Hone Heke. (a Maori pa is a fortified village)

Robert was found dead in the WC at his home in Kaitara, Morrison's Bush, Greytown on 9 April 1879, where he was schoolmaster. He died of apoplexy
- he was buried in Greytown, his funeral attended by a large number of the members of the Greytown Rifle Volunteers, of which Robert was an honorary member

by ngairedith on 2012-10-24 09:56:48
by janilye on 2012-10-24 10:18:05

Gee ng you have been busy. Thank you very, very much. :)
I thought he may have been in the war of 1845 when I read that memorial to Fitzroy.
One thing interesting which I found was on daughter Elizabeth Rosian's Baptisimal record he gave his occupation as a Commercial Traveller living in Pentonville. Marvellous what a change of scenery will do.

by janilye on 2012-10-24 10:58:11

Is the birthdate for Alexander Sutherland ALLAN 1831 or 39 ng?

by keithos on 2013-04-01 22:15:24

Hi janilye and ngairedith 2 April 2013 1.15pm

Just fell on this page of your. I am a direct descendant of Alexander Sutherland Allan and Elizabeth Rosian nee Huntley. My grandmother's maiden name, Allan. Most of the third generation Allans were born in Sydney, while Gabriel Allan, son of Alex and Eliz remained in Auckland with his name on the cemetery record of his mother in Wellington.

What is your connection to my great great grandparents Alexander and Elizabeth? Couldn't see it from the missives.

Although I have A S Allan coming from Edinburgh - in fact my son visited the exact same address, still standing - I note you have him born in Stromness, a small community way north of Scotland? AS Allan born 05 Jul 1831; died 29 Jan 1900.

Excited to hear more.

Cheers
Keith
... in Melbourne, Australia

by janilye on 2013-04-02 00:13:51

It's all part of some research I was doing Keith, surrounding John Burton 1843-1918. I was tracking Robert Stanislaus Allan's wife Edith Burton and the Burton's of Windsor, NSW. All I really needed was an immigration record for Elizabeth Huntley Allan, to tie up the inlaws. But ng and myself do tend to get carried away. As far as a connection! well, Elizabeth is the mother-in-law of 1st cousin once removed of wife of 1st cousin 4 times removed. So, I wouldn't say close!

by keithos on 2013-04-06 22:27:45

Oh okay. I have Edith Mary Burton married to Robert Stanislaus Allan 1899. He born 9 apr 1869, the brother of my great grandfather. Robt Stanislaus was a journalist, author, and worked on The Bulletin' magazine in Australia. His second name from a luminary at the time.

I see your family name on Ancestry's leaf. So we are related from your cousin whose mother in law was my grandmother, ne'est-ce pa?.

Thanks you for posting this - I had little to nothing on RH Huntley and his wife whom I believe was Elizabeth Grimpson or Grinson - hard to make out on the marriage certificate. I followed up on your points relating to the 1845 war where Robert Henry Huntley was awarded a War Medal. But what happened to the family tradition about being related to the Huntley Chocolate family company in England?

If you would like anything about Allans please let me know.Birth of Allan Sutherland Allan in Stromness, Scotland doesn't seem to fit.

Cheers
Keith

keithos@optusnet.com.au

by keithos on 2013-04-06 22:31:45

Did Robert Henry Huntley have other children besides Elizabeth and did you see Grimpson as his wife? He may have had brothers and sisters in NZ too?

Cheers
Keith
keithos@optusnet.com.au

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