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Looking for anyone with a well-established CRAMP and/or NORTHEY tree, in Eastern Australia

Query by Crampets

Hi, I don't know of anyone born before 1912, except for the fact I had an ancester by the name of Roy Cramp, who served in WWI, and my great-grandmother, who changed her name to Giesendana when she came to Australia, from, if I'm correct, Switzerland. All I know of her is her last name, and that she married into the Aldridge family, up in Townsville. My grandfather, Robert Cramp, is a descendant of Roy, and before that, I can't tell you.

My grandmother is Melody Aldridge, and she married Ronald Northey, whose father is Roland Northey. I don't know his mother's name.

If anyone can fill in the blanks, it would be awesome :)

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on 2012-02-14 15:01:41

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by janilye on 2012-02-16 06:24:44

I found Roy Clive Cramp born in Grafton 18 April 1897 he joind up at Lismore in October 1915 was medically discharged.
Father: James Samuel CRAMP born 9 August 1864 at Grafton and died 30 July 1939 in Brisbane.
MOTHER: Rachael HENRY born 11 April 1861 in Grafton and died at Casino in 1933
James and Rachael were married on the 23 March 1883 in Grafton.
Their children, including Roy were:-
George Samuel Cramp 1883 1962
Joseph David Cramp 1885 1978
William James Cramp 1887 1944
Ivy Leslie Cramp 1889 1903
Jessie Sarah Cramp 1892 1963
Theo Albert Cramp 1894 1918
*Roy Clive Cramp 1897 1970
Ernest Grafton Cramp 1899 1984
Lurline Cramp 1901 1978
Irene Cramp 1904 1989
On the 17 November 1920 Roy married Janet TREVOR 1884-1963
Roy Clive CRAMP died on the 4 March 1970

by janilye on 2012-02-16 06:55:47

I think your grandmother's name was Geizendanner or Gitzendanner
Do you remember her first name?

by janilye on 2012-02-16 07:00:17

is this her?
Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
about Louisa Wilhelmina Geizendanner
Name: Louisa Wilhelmina Geizendanner
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1919
State: Queensland
District: Kennedy
Subdistrict: Chillagoe

by Crampets on 2012-02-16 17:31:02

Could be, all I know is she spent her later years in Townsville. I was still young when we visited her house.

Could be Giezendanna, I wasn't sure on the spelling, also taking into account how close Z is to S (pronunciation and usage-wise) in most Germanic languages. I think you've struck gold with this one :P

How did you find this stuff? I'm new (As you probably guessed...) to researching genealogies...

by Crampets on 2012-02-16 18:34:32

Thanks anyway :)

by janilye on 2012-02-17 00:47:54

I have discovered many Swiss with the name Geizendanna.
To be certain which queensland Geizendanna she is, I would need an approximate age for your grandmother. Think about when you last saw her and approximately how old would she have been.
The more information you can impart the better the chance we have of pinning her down.
husband, children, sisters, brothers?

by janilye on 2012-02-17 02:00:51

Joseph Anthony Giezendanna b 1843 in Btschwil, St. Gallen, Switzerland and died in 1901 Charters Towers, Queensland
married Katherine ERBACHER b: 1862 Toowoomba, Queensland and died 1943 at Chillagoe, Queensland.
In 1879 at Toowoomba they had a son George Anthony GIEZENDANNA and he married Ellen Dempsey MCNEILL she was born in Belfast, Northern Ireland in 1872 and died in Brisbane in 1977.
Between them they had 11 Children;
Kathleen Annie Giezendanner 1898 1970 m. Charles Alfred HAMMOND 1898-1970 and she died in Cairns
Margaret Giezendanner 1901 1977 died in Townsville, Qld.
Thomas Anthony Giezendanner 1902 1929
Ellen Dempsey Giezendanner 1905 1930 m. George Eric WEBSTER 1903-1958 she died in Taree, nsw
Gladys Giezendanner 1907 1907
William Giezendanner 1908 1982 m. Gladys May TUCKER 1912-2003 he died in Brisbane
Louis John McNeill 1911 2004 m. Frances Chauntier 1915-2002 he died in Proserpine, Qld.
Hilda Giezendanner 1914 ? m. Joseph William NORTHEY 1908-1986 don't know!
Hugh Giezendanner 1916 2001 m. I don't know but he also died in Townsville
George Giezendanner 1919 1919
Esther GIEZENDANNER 1921 2003 m. Roland NORTHEY ?-2002 She died in Townsville

by janilye on 2012-02-17 02:18:52

I forgot Margaret's spouse.
Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
about Margaret Giezendanner
Name: Margaret Giezendanner
Spouse Name: Frederick Samuel Powell
Marriage Date: 7 Dec 1918
Marriage Place: Queensland
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1918
Registration number: 002977
Page Number: 711

My money's on Esther in 1954 she lived at 40 Philp St Hermit Park, Townsville with Roland Martin NORTHEY his occupation was Canister Maker?

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
about Esther Northey
Name: Esther Northey
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1954
State: Queensland
District: Herbert
Subdistrict: Townsville

by Crampets on 2012-02-17 08:49:34

So I had it wrong. I was under the impression the Giezendannas were on the Aldridge side, but obviously not...

Shows how much I knew :P

In my defence I was only 9 when Esther died...

Esther and Roland were the parents of my grandfather on my mother's side.

I think, I'm not sure though, that Hilda is still alive, somewhere up there in Townsville.

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