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Query by hansr

Hi all,

I am looking for possible descendants of 2 brothers.
One of them was Charles Grey Bird (1831 - 1918), the other James Pidding Bird (1833 - 1917).
Both were born in England, probably in Hampshire or the vicinity of London.
Around 1852 they travelled with their father, Henry Bird, to Australia.
The father returned to England about a decade later. C.G. Bird remained in Melbourne, J.P. Bird continued his travelling to New Zealand. Both died in these countries.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
You can mail me at hans_renette at hotmail dot com

Kind regards,

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by Aleeyne on 2013-08-25 22:18:43

Look for Nick BIRD in NSW - he has written books and is a keen genealogist - he I am sure will be able to help you. Google for him. [email protected] His Ancestor family includes Thornton, Wilberforce, Sumner, Gambier, Bird, Shepheard, Alston, Pym.
STAINFORTH. A River of Recollections and Biographies, ISBN 9780975204740

He is in Sydney, NSW,Australia.

by tonkin on 2013-08-26 03:37:10


Groom: Charles Grey BIRD.
Bride: Anastasia HAYES.
Year married: 1865.
Place: Victoria, Australia.
Ref: VMI #538.


Name: Charles Grey BIRD.
Died: 1917 Fitzroy North, Victoria.
Age: 86 years.
Parents: Henry BIRD & Mary Ellen BAKER.
Ref: VDI #8460.


Name: Anastasia Maria BIRD.
Died: 1932 Fitzroy North, Victoria.
Age: 84 years.
Parents: unknown HAYES & Margaret MCNAMARA.

I have not located any children for Charles and Anastasia to date.

by tonkin on 2013-08-26 22:57:41

The name James Pidding BIRD does not come up in the New Zealand marriage records, and the name does not come up in the birth records for any children. If James married and had children in New Zealand his second given name of Pidding was not recorded, but it was for his death.


Name: James Pidding BIRD.
Died: 1917 New Zealand.
Age: 88 years.
Ref: NZ Deaths Online. Reg #1917/5853.

Note. James brother, Charles Grey BIRD, also died in 1917 and not 1918 as you mentioned in your post.

by Mrs on 2015-03-14 23:09:50

Hello.....I come the line of McNamara...John & Mary McNamara.
Anastasia McNamara came to Australia in 1853 with her parents & siblings, on the ship Charles. Both her parents died in 1885. John 1st February 1885 , then Mary drowned in Salt River know as Maribyrnong near Essendon. Anastasia was one of 6 children too John & Mary, living in Essendon....My g. g. g. g. grandmother was the eldest of the children. Bridget McNamara....Anastasia & Charles are buried at the Melbourne General Cemetery R.C section P. Grave Row 24.
Hope this can help..
Regards Robyn Thompson... [email protected]

by wizard28 on 2015-03-15 07:24:44

England Births and Christenings
Name: Charles Grey Bird
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 02 Dec 1833
Christening Place: St. Lawrence with St. John's, Southampton, Hampshire, England ****
Father's Name: Henry Bird
Mother's Name: Mary Helen
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04613-0 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1596363 , Reference ID: item 1 p 124

There are to records for Charles Grey Bird same christening dates different churches. the othe St. Michael, Southampton, Hampshire, England

by wizard28 on 2015-03-15 07:35:46

James Pidding Bird
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 2 Dec 1833 **
Baptism Place: St. Lawrence with St. John's, Southampton, Hampshire, England
Father: Henry Bird
Mother: Mary Helen
FHL Film Number: 1596363
Reference ID: item 1 p 124

same christening dates different churches. the othe St. Michael, Southampton, Hampshire, England.

** Note both christened on same day. Birth name for both not given.

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