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Query by NTuffill

Hello
A few years ago some people on familytreecircles kindly helped me to find Charles Edward Clarke's parents. I am just wondering if any more records have come to light since then so that I can find out what happened to the children of Samuel James Clarke and Charlotte Reynolds. As far as I can find they came to Australia with a little boy James Peter Clarke who was born in 1851 in Lancashire, England. Then Samuel John Clarke was born in 1853 in Geelong but he died in 1857 in Geelong, then another child Margaret Jane Clarke born 1855 in Geelong but she died in 1857 and then my great grandfather Charles Edward Clarke was born in either 1857 or 1858 in Geelong

As far as I know James Peter Clarke stayed in Australia as well as Charles Edward Clarke but I am presuming that Charlotte must have died so who would have had the children? Samuel James Clarke came back on his own to England as far as I know and married someone else and had a daughter and lived in Lancashire.

I would be grateful for any help or pointers as to where to go and what to look for

thank you

Nancy Tuffill

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by Morgan2409 on 2015-02-17 17:33:22

Marriage of Samuel James Clarke and Charlotte Reynolds
15th March 1852 at St Mary the Virgin Church, Blackburn, Lancaster.

Samuel was a Bookeeper residing in Preston
Charlotte was residing Blackburn

Samuel's father named as Thomas Clarke (Draper)
Charlottes father named as Peter Reynolds (Hatter)

by Morgan2409 on 2015-02-17 17:44:06

The 1841 Census- Lancashire
Cecilia Magee, aged 40 years (Dressmaker)
Peter Reynolds, aged 25 years (Hatter)
Jane Reynolds, aged 25 years
Charlotte, aged 8 years. Est. Birth Year 1833
Jane, aged 4 years

All born in Ireland

by Morgan2409 on 2015-02-17 18:19:28

This birth may be worth a look?

Mary Ann Lebat Clarke
Birth Place: Ballarat East, Victoria
Reg. Year: 1861
Father: Clarke
Mother: Charlotte Reynolds
reg#20067r

by Morgan2409 on 2015-02-17 18:27:38

Death of Mary Ann Lebat Clarke;
Reg Year: 1862/Victoria
Aged 4 months
Mothers Name Charlotte Clarke
reg#304

by Morgan2409 on 2015-02-17 19:22:32

Marriage of Charlotte Reynolds (Mother of above)

Charlotte Reynolds Married Francoles (Francois) Labat 1862 Victoria reg#3309

by Morgan2409 on 2015-02-17 19:34:01

AN ESCAPE.-Ah Ching was brought up
on remand, charged with stealing 15s 6d
from the till of Mr Labat, baker, Plank
Road. Charlotte Labat deposed that she
saw the prisoner on Saturday last within
the shop, near the counter. Some twenty
minutes before she had placed the money in
the till. Her husband saw the prisoner
with his hand reached across the counter
towards the till. The Bench said this was
already deposed to. Witness-There was
a second Chinaman, who ran away. The
Bench said that no money had been found
on the prisoner. They had doubt in the
matter, and they would give the prisoner
the benefit of it. He was discharged.
The Star (Ballarat) 10th April 1862

by Morgan2409 on 2015-02-17 19:43:59

Birth of Julia Labat
Father: Francois Labat
Mother: Charlot Reynolds
Birth Place: Ballarat East, Victoria
Reg. Year: 1863
reg#6210

by Morgan2409 on 2015-02-17 19:50:36

Adolph Maxamillion Labat
Father: Francis labat
Mother: Charlotte Reynolds
Birth Place: Ballarat East, Victoria
Reg Year: 1865
reg#617

by Morgan2409 on 2015-02-17 20:20:33

FIRE ON THE PLANK ROAD.
On Sunday morning, shortly before sun-
rise, that is to say about 3 a.m., the alarm of
fire was given on the Plank Road. Flames
were seen to issue from a bakehouse in the
rear of Mr Francis Labat's french bakery,
a few houses beyond the Caledonian Hotel,
on the same side of the way, and Constable
P. Burke, who was on his beat at the time
and near the spot, at once broke down the
door of the house and alarmed the inmate.
The consternation now became general, for
in a few minutes the whole of the building
(a light shingled one) was in flames. A few
people had collected, but beyond the throw-
ing of a few buckets of water and the carry-
ing out of furniture and other property, no-
thing was done till the adjoining houses
caught. About this time Sergeant Larner
and the police from the Central Station ar-
rived, and were quickly followed by Mr In-
spector Taylor and the police from the
Camp. On the one side of the store that
first caught were two small stores, one be-
longing to W. Hart and thc other to Hyman
Zukermann. A right-of-way then in-
tervened, and served to protect the Caledo-
nian Hotel, which was the next building
across the way. On tho other side was a
long row of buildings, which was now in
imminent danger. Studu's Alpaca Store,
next to Labat's, was in flames, and adjoining
was Cook's butchery. To check the fire
here, then, was the great object; and the
police, aided by some of the crowd collected,
pulled down Studu's burning store, and,
further on, removed a small skeleton of a
building. Luckily Labat's bakery was soon
down, and the wind blowing the other way,
the destruction of the Alpaca Store saved the
rest. The four stores being thus destroyed,
the fire was stayed, though the embers
were burning for a long period. The Fire
Brigade were not upon the spot with their
customary readiness. Their watchman was
away on Leave, and there appeared
to be no one to ring the bell
Eventually, the police rang the bell,
and in about fifteen minutes afterwards
a considerable number of the Brigade, with
their engine, &c, were on the scene; but
beyond making assurance doubly sure, they
were unable to do anything. We under-
stand a considerable amount of property was
destroyed, M. Labat stating that his own
losses are fully £500. As late as yesterday
afternoon a quantity of flour and sugar were
smouldering away on the ground, and a horse
and spring cart were almost all he was able
to save from the flames. M. Labat has stated
that the fire was caused by his employe,
Henry Francotte, who went to bed in the
bakehouse that night in a state of drunken-
ness, with a candle burning, which he upset
and ignited the calico lining to the room.
Some colour is given to this by the fact that
the man cannot be found, and M. Labat's
assertion that there was no fire in the house
from 6 p.m. till the time of the occurrence.
We are informed that none of the property
was insured. Before we dismiss the subject,
we may expresa a hope that the Fire Brigade
will provide an efficient substitute for their
engine-house keeper, during his leave of
Absence.
The Ballarat Star 14th February 1859

by Morgan2409 on 2015-02-17 20:42:44

A collision between two spring carts took place
opposite to Lester's hotel, Sturt street, about eight
o'clock on Friday evening. The driver of one cart
was Mr Labat, baker, who had with him a lady, with
an infant in arms, and the driver of the other cart
was a Mr. Huggins. The collision jerked the infant
out of the lady'a arms, but she caught the child by
the leg, and no material injury was done to anybody.
It was said that Huggins was on the wrong side.
Ballarat Star 11th November 1865

by Morgan2409 on 2015-02-17 20:52:57

Possible Arrival of Francis Labat

Francis Labat
Est. Birth: 1819
Age: 33 years
Arrival Date: December 1852
Arrival Port: Port Phillip Bay
Depature Port: London
Ship: Washington Irving
Nationality: French

by Morgan2409 on 2015-02-17 21:02:07

After about 1870 the Labat Family appear to disappear. Maybe they left Australia? Did Francis take the family back to France?

by NTuffill on 2015-02-18 04:45:09

Hello Morgan2409
Wow that is great, I presumed she must have died!
Thank you so much for finding this information. Is there anywhere I could look online to see census returns for Victoria to find out if Charles Edward Clarke and Peter James Clarke were still living with her?

Kind regards

Nancy

by Morgan2409 on 2015-02-18 05:00:43

I think that the best place to start would be contacting the Ballarat Historical Society. Check school records etc.
Ages do not match, but a Mr and Mrs F. Lambat left Victoria on the "Yorkshire" in 1870 destined for London. There is a 10 year old boy with them.

Note: Samuel James Clarke was the book keeper for the Bank of Australasia

The marriage cert. for Charlotte and Francis should verify if this is you Charlotte. I would bet it is

by NTuffill on 2015-02-18 05:29:12

Thank you very much Morgan2409
Greatly appreciated

Kind regards

Nancy

by Morgan2409 on 2015-02-18 05:38:25

Let me know what happened to Charlotte if you find out Francis in continually in court seeking unpaid debts in Ballarat Unless they change their name from Labet, i think that you will find the family leaves Australia. If you get the marriage cert. it should show where Francis was born and his parents name

by NTuffill on 2015-02-18 05:50:58

Great thank you

by tonkin on 2015-02-18 20:16:28

Another birth for you to look at.

Name: Eugenie Labat REYNOLDS.
Born: 1860 Ballarat Victoria.
Father: Not recorded.
Mother: Charlotte REYNOLDS.
Ref: Registry of Births, Victoria. Reg #2524.

It appears to me Charlotte had two children with Francoies (Francis) LABET before they married in 1862. Not uncommon in those days.

by Morgan2409 on 2015-02-18 20:27:35

January 14.-Per -steamship Royal Standard
for Londonâ Saloon, Mrs F. Labatt, . Misses
Charlotte and Eugenie and Masters Julie and Adolphe
Labatt, Mr and Mrs B. J. Marks and Masters Marks,
Messrs A. and W. Clark, Mr Thomas R. Riddell, Mr
and Mrs. John- McKellor: and Captain Malet; and
93 in second cabin and steerage. Dr. .Denton,
surgeon
The Australian News for Home Readers 28th January 186

by Morgan2409 on 2015-02-18 20:32:09

Sorry, will try again
January 14.—Per -steamship Royal Standard
for London— Saloon, Mrs F. Labatt, . Misses
Charlotte and Eugenie and Masters Julie and Adolphe
Labatt, Mr andMrs B. J. Marks and Masters Marks,
Messrs A. and W. Clark, Mr Thomas R. Riddell, Mr
and Mrs. John- McKellor: and Captain Malet; and
93 in second cabin and steerage. Dr. .Denton,
surgeon.
The Australian News for Home Readers 28th January 1867

by Morgan2409 on 2015-02-18 20:40:26

Thanks to to Tonkin for the birth of Eugenie and an alternative spelling for Lambat. You can deterimine that Charlotte left Australia in 1867. Francis was still in Australia in 1870

by NTuffill on 2015-02-19 03:36:38

This tree is growing all the time, thank you so much

by NTuffill on 2015-02-20 06:11:51

I would like to say thank you very much to Morgan2409 to Tonkin and to familycircles in general for having such a wonderful service. I have banged my head against brick walls so many times, I am not good when it comes to researching more complicated things especially when it is across the other side of the world, so a HUGE THANK YOU TO ALL INVOLVED

by NTuffill on 2015-02-26 20:37:28

Have purchased marriage certificate for Francois Labat & Charlotte Reynolds you are correct, it is definitely my Charlotte, great stuff

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