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Looking for Elizabeth Wild Batchelor

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Elizabeth Wild Batchelor is in the 1841 England census as 9yrs old, living with Henry Blatch and his wife Sarah, nee Batchelor.In 1847/8 they all immigrated to New Zealand, on the same ship, but Elizabeth is listed seperatly, as a servant. In 1848 she married William Monson, had 2 children and died in 1862.
It has been suggested, she was Sarahs illegitemate daughter, but the name Wild comes from Henrys mother.
How can I find where she came from? I'm running out of options.

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on 2010-01-02 20:39:10

Dorro has been a Family Tree Circles member since Aug 2009. is researching the following names: LAWRENCE, MACCLURE, PRICE and 7 other(s).

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by ngairedith on 2010-01-02 20:43:28

Hi Dorro,
Could you please give me the name of the ship you have for the immigration and to which port they may have disembarked and I will do a search and see what can be found

by Dorro on 2010-01-02 20:52:13

The ship was 'John Wickliffe' and it was the first settlers ship to Port Chalmers, Dunedin.
Thank you

by ngairedith on 2010-01-02 21:06:15

Elizabeth died in Dunedin on 9th September 1862 aged 31. This gives her a birth year of about 1831. On her funeral records it is said she had been in New Zealand for 16 years - an arrival date of about 1846 when she was about 15 years old.
She is buried in PLOT 22 - BLOCK 27 of the SOUTHERN CEMETERY in Dunedin.
There are 4 people buried in the same plot..
Buried with her is a William Frederick Monson, a carpenter of Athol Place, Dunedin. He died on 6th May 1902 aged 49 (birth year of about 1853) - he was from London, England.
Also buried in the same plot is Elizabeth Turner Monson. She died a month after Elizabeth but no age or birth date is recorded anywhere for her.
Also buried in the plot is a 1 hour old baby Cameron (surname) of Castle St Dunedin

by Dorro on 2010-01-02 21:32:38

Thank you so much, youhave helped a lot. Now I have to find out who Baby Cameron was. I think William was probably her son, and Janet nee Telfer was his wife.
I will keep searching for her birth.

by ngairedith on 2010-01-02 21:47:22

Thanks Dorro,

The ships passenger list can be seen here:
JOHN WICKLIFFE
This indeed shows Elizabeth as Elizabeth Batchelor and Henry and Sarah Mercy (nee Batchelor) Blatch tavelling with their children:
Thomas Blatch aged 14 (1833-1925)
Alfred Blatch aged 12 (1835-1918)
Ann Caroline Blatch aged 10 (1837-?)
- Ann married in 1857 but no spouse name recorded !!!
Mary Eliza Blatch aged 4 (1843-1885)
Emma Blatch aged 2 (1845-1867)

Elizabeth's future husband was on board travelling with his father Henry Monson (1794-1866) a carpenter, and solo parent of William Henry Monson (1825-1895 who married Elizabeth) and John Robert Monson who was to marry Mary Ann Roebuck
Elizabeth's husband William Henry Monson returned to England at some stage where he died aged 70 in 1895

So, who was William Frederick Monson of London that Elizabeth is buried with?
1853 birth year, from England, carpenter ??

There were actually 5 people buried in the same plot in Dunedin.
The one I missed out was Janet Monson. She was William Frederick Monson's wife. Her maiden name was Janet Telfer. They married in 1880. She was a daughter of David & Jane Telfer

And who was baby Cameron??

If Sarah Mercy Blatch (nee Batchelor) was born about 1807 and Elizabeth Batchelor was born 1831 this does make it possible Elizabeth was a daughter rather than a sister. She could even have been a neice BUT as you say the middle name Wild is also Henry Blatch's mother's name so many possiblities open
I will carry on researching but hope other people reading this can add more

by ngairedith on 2010-01-02 22:32:53

According to this site Elizabeth Wild and Sarah Mercy Dance Batchelor were sisters
BLATCH, BATCHELOR, WILD & CARGILL
It says their parents were Thomas and Elizabeth Batchelor
This make a birth gap of about 24 years between the sisters
It says that Elizabeth was a ward of Sarah and her husband Henry Blatch
Henry and Sarah had buried a 2 year old daughter they named Sarah Mercy Blatch, in St George's, Esher, Surrey with her grandparents prior to their emigration

by ngairedith on 2010-01-02 22:41:56
by ngairedith on 2010-01-02 22:51:28

A family tree for Sarah Mercy Batchelor
Shows Henry's mother as Ann Wild, married to Thomas William Blatch
Henry was the 3rd of 10 children
Unforunately, Sarah's parents were unknown when they wrote that site ..

by Dorro on 2010-01-03 01:12:17

Sarahs son Alfred Blatch married Ellen Maria Martha Mary Ann Monson, Elizabeths daughter. Which makes them first cousins. They went on to raise 12 children to adulthood. Alfred and Ellen were my ggrandparents. Maybe someone can come up with some evidence of Elizabeths parentage.In the meantime, thank you so much for your time and effort.

by Dick_Donaldson on 2010-06-16 18:42:13

I have a copy of Elizabeth Wild's marriage record and it shows that Henry Frederick Blatch was her Uncle and guardian. From this I assume she was the daughter of one of Sarah Mercy Dance Batchelor's brothers (or maybe a sister).
The most likely canditates are Thomas or John Batchelor (or Elizabeth, Jane or Susannah). I have no information on these five other than birth dates. The others all married and had children.

by ALMonson on 2010-12-14 17:24:51

Hi.
I cant give you any new info but I can clarify some things. Elizabeth Wild and William met on the John Wickliffe when they travelled to Dunedin. They were married here but soon returned to England where their children were born. William Frederick married Janet Telfer and they had 3 children (i think i dont have the list with me) and returned to NZ. Elizabeth Wild died and is buried alongside her son and his wife. I dont know who the Cameron baby is but there is a connection to the Camerons as Henry Monson, Williams father was great friends with the Cameron family and their children grew up together. I think there is a marriage on Williams brothers side to a Cameron. In a family journal I remember Henry writing that there was a close resemblance between Elizabeth Wild and Sarah. I will try and find this for you and write up the actual names etc when I get everything together.
Oh Elizabeth and William are my great-great-great grandparents :)

by pmet007 on 2011-11-11 08:08:56

Hi All

I'm looking for information on another Dunedin Monson - my grandfather's mother
Alice Maud Mary Monson 1866-1964
The marriage certificate lists her parents William and Cecelia Monson of Caversham

newspaper records from 23/1/1869 record Alice being placed in the Reformatory at age 3 with her two sisters
Adela Caroline and Mary

Can anybody help? I'm looking for information about her parents - and any records from the Reformatory
I have not found any BDM or shipping list records for WIlliam and Cecelia - or their children.


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