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Looking for Hannah Bird and relatives who was born in Blidworth Notts, in 1876 she was raised by her aunt and uncle in Tupton Derbyshire.

Question by Debs007

Hannah is my great grandmother. She had my grandad in 1892 so was only around 15. I have hit a brick wall as I can't find her on the 1901 + census records. My dad has said he thinks she was living in Bolsover Chesterfield but I can't find a marriage, or death or anything after she had my grandad

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by familydetective on 2016-08-19 10:08:32

Is this the Hannah you refer to. What was your g/dad's name born in 1892 and where was he born?

England and Wales Census, 1881
Name Hannah Bird
Event Type Census
Event Date 1881
Event Place Kirkby In Ashfield, Nottinghamshire, England
Registration District Basford
Residence Note New St
Gender Female
Age 4
Marital Status (Original) Single
Occupation Scholar
Relationship to Head of Household Niece
Birth Year (Estimated) 1877
Birthplace Blidworth, Nottinghamshire, England
Page Number 10
Registration Number RG11
Piece/Folio 3323/8
Affiliate Record Type Household

According to the census she was living with her uncle and aunt William and Hannah Knowles so her mother could have been a Knowles or Hannah ?????

by familydetective on 2016-08-19 10:21:52

1891 England Census

Name: Hannah Bird
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1850[1876]
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Blidworth, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Tupton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Lawrence
Town: Tupton
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Chesterfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 25

William Knowles 45
Hannah Knowles 39
Hannah Bird 41
William Hill 78
Rebecca Hill 80

From this it would suggest her mother was a Knowles or Hill

by Debs007 on 2016-08-20 04:47:33

Hi thank you for the reply. Yes this is the Hannah I am looking for. This is as far as I have got. Since the birth of my grandad I have no more leads, I hit a brick wall. Hannah's mum was Mary Bird, formally Knowles but she died when Hannah was around 4 so she was raised by her aunt and uncle.

by Debs007 on 2016-08-20 04:47:53

Hi thank you for the reply. Yes this is the Hannah I am looking for. This is as far as I have got. Since the birth of my grandad I have no more leads, I hit a brick wall. Hannah's mum was Mary Bird, formally Knowles but she died when Hannah was around 4 so she was raised by her aunt and uncle.

by familydetective on 2016-08-20 19:54:57

ENGLAND MARRIAGES, 1538–1973
Name William Knowles
Birth Date 1846
Age 27
Spouse's Name Hannah Hill
Spouse's Birth Date 1851
Spouse's Age 22
Event Date 25 Dec 1873
Event Place Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England
Father's Name James Knowles
Spouse's Father's Name William Hill
Marital Status Single
Spouse's Marital Status Single

This is William and Hannah's marriage so Mary and Williams father was a James Knowles

by familydetective on 2016-08-20 20:20:19

This may be your family, its difficult to make out if it is Bird or Bord.

1871 England Census

Name: Mary Bord [Mary Bird]
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George Bord
Mother's name: Ann Knowles
Gender: Female
Where born: Blidworth, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Blidworth
Town: Blidworth
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Mansfield
Sub-registration district: Blidworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 115

George Bord 32
Mary Bord 28
Ann Knowles 71 Mother in law
Annie Bord 4
John Bord 2

by familydetective on 2016-08-20 20:27:44

This looks like the family, have not found marriage or death for Mary (Knowles) Bird yet.

Census 1851
Brick Kiln Houses, St Mary, Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England

James Knowles 52 1799 Ag Lab Blidworth, Nottinghamshire, England
Ann Knowles 48 1803 - Whitehall, Lincolnshire, England
Benjmin Knowles 13 1838 - Blidworth, Nottinghamshire, England
Francis Knowles 11 1840 - Blidworth, Nottinghamshire, England
Mary Knowles 8 1843 Scholar Blidworth, Nottinghamshire, England
William J Knowles 5 1846 Scholar Blidworth, Nottinghamshire, England

by familydetective on 2016-08-20 20:37:46

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915

Name: Mary Bird
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Registration Year: 1880
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 38
Registration district: Mansfield
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 55

by familydetective on 2016-08-20 20:59:06

This looks like George in 1881

1881 England Census

Name: George Bird
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1833
Relationship to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Gedling, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Blidworth and Haywood Oakes
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address: Lower Blidworth
Marital Status: Widower
Occupation: Coal Miner
Registration district: Mansfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 3

George Bird 48
Annie Bird 14
John Bird 12
Sarah E. Bird 9

by familydetective on 2016-08-20 21:04:59

Not sure if Ann 1806 is wife.

1841 census
Alvey Lane, Gedling, Basford, Nottinghamshire

John Bird Male 70 1771 Nottinghamshire, England
Ann Bird Female 35 1806 Nottinghamshire, England
Joseph Bird Male 10 1831 Nottinghamshire, England
George Bird Male 8 1833 Nottinghamshire, England
Ann Bird Female 4 1837 Nottinghamshire, England

by Debs007 on 2016-08-22 09:47:12

Hi there yes these are the family members i have also found but Hannah is a mystery. I do know Hannah's brother John also came to live in Bolsover and via a contact of Johns i found out he went to the USA following one of his children and their family. It could be Hannah followed him. Its another lead i am following. Thank you for the help.

by mark792 on 2017-03-05 01:48:03

Hi, John Bird born 1868 in Blidworth is my great grandfather.He died in 1945 in Bolsover and is buried in Bolsover with his wife Hannah (Chapman) who died in 1949. They had 9 children in Bolsover. They married in Blidworth in 1890. John's dad, George born 1834 in Gedling All Hallows (near Blidworth) had 4 children Annie born 1867, John born 1868, Sarah Elizabeth born 1872 and finally Hannah born 1876. Annie married John Shelton and had 4 children in Blidworth, Sarah was classed imbecile from birth and died in Mansfield Union Workhouse in 1916. Hannah last known of by us in 1891 as you know with her uncle in Tupton. We have photographed John and Hannah's grave and have all census sheets saved if you need anything. Can you let us know the link from you to Hannah. Very intriguing. mark-hibbert2@virginmedia.com. Yours Mark

by Debs007 on 2017-03-05 11:31:03

Hi Mark,
Great to hear from you. Hannah was my great grandmother. I am still looking into Hannah. I have a lead she died in Leeds in 1895. I have the death certificate but it was not a family member who registered her death it was the superintendent of the hospital. She was 19. Hannah had my grandfather John Bird in 1892.

by mark792 on 2017-03-05 16:36:40

Willian T Knowles and Hannah (Hill) have a John born 1892 living with them on the 1901 and 1911 census sheets. Is this your grandfather son of Hannah 1876(Bird).

by Debs007 on 2017-03-05 20:44:41

Hi Mark,
Yes this is my grandfather. This is Hannah's son. He was later known in the village as John/Jack Knowles. It wasn't until he needed his birth certificate to either start work or get married. That's when he found out who was his mother.

by mark792 on 2017-03-05 22:21:15

Do you have a copy of the birth of John or the death of Hannah. Its very interesting. Do you know that William adopted Ernest Wright born 1900 Sheffield too. I will do more research on them....

by Debs007 on 2017-03-06 11:30:32

Hi Mark,
Yes I do have Johns birth, marriage and death certificates. Yes I knew Ernest was adopted by William and Hannah{Hill}. I have sent for a death certificate for a Hannah Bird. It is the right age but no known connection with Leeds. I am waiting for the coroner at leeds to get back in touch to see if they have a record of her date of birth. If it is my Hannah she was only 19 when she died. WHy she ended upin leeds is beyond me.
How are you connected to the Bird family? I have been told that John Bird 1868 had died in America in 1945.

by mark792 on 2017-03-06 18:50:49

Hi Debs, i am the grandson of Gladys Ada Bird born 1907 in Bolsover. Her father (John born 1868) was Hannah's older brother. I have a photo of the grave which i could email to you if you like. You can send me an email to mark-hibbert2@virginmedia.com. Are you local to Bolsover? I have a newspaper clipping of John and Hannah's 50th wedding anniversary which is very informative as it mentions Blidworth.

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