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Looking for Harper, Bray, Blandthorn and Munro from England to Australia

Query by VeronicaF

Hi this is my first entry. I came across this site today after posting a reply. What a great site! My name is Veronica and I am in West Australia.
I am researching Henry James Harper born 1812 Bere Alston, Devon christened 6 Sep 1812 at Calstock, Cornwall. This has been a huge brickwall now broken. From his death certificate his parents names were listed as Stephen Harper and Mary Marks. His parents were actually Samuel Harper and Mary Testick who were married at Redruth 26 Nov 1804. They had a large family with children ending up in NZ, Aust and USA some remained in England.
Henry and his first wife Harriet Floyd and 3 children William, Charlotte and Mary Ann travelled on the ship "William Bryan in 1841 and settled initially at Taranake, NZ. After Harriets death in 1845 the family sailed to Adelaide, South Australia where Henry married Ellen Bray in 1848.(My line). Another brickwall. Previous research by another family member had Ellen's parents as James Trewartha Bray (brother of William (Billy)Bray the evangelist) and an Ann on the family tree. I did some extensive research on this line to find this couple not her parents! I was very disappointed because I love the sound of the name James Trewartha Bray it has a certain ring to it.
The mystery was finally broken when it was revealed Ellen is buried in the same grave at Bendigo as her brother Ambrose. The burial plot was originally paid for by Ellen's daughter Sarah Crammond. Henry Harper is buried at Welshmans Reef, Victoria.
Now I'm rambling.
Thanks for a great site Scott.
Regards, Veronica (VeronicaF here)

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on 2008-02-10 03:43:40

VeronicaF , from Australia, has been a Family Tree Circles member since Feb 2008. is researching the following names: HARPER, BLANDTHORN.

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by laren on 2008-02-10 19:15:17


Who do you have as Ellen's parents? I have to admit, I've always been keen on the name James Trewartha Bray as well!! How does the burial help with identifying parents and do you have any info on the brother Ambrose?


by VeronicaF on 2008-02-11 01:50:17

I have Ellen Bray's parents as William Bray and Ann Barrett married at Parish of Lanivet, Cornwall 23/05/1819 signed by "Their Marks" Witnesses Wm Barrett, John Mannell.
Parents names on Ambrose Bray's Death Certificate as above.
Ambrose died first 20 Jan 1879. The burial plot was purchased by Sarah Crammond (Harper) and her husband George Crammond. An adjoining plot was also purchased. Ellen Harper (Bray) is buried in this plot she died 26 Sep 1888 age 58 (Had 11 children!). Also buried here is George Crammond died 6 Jun 1896 and his wife Sarah Crammond (Harper) died 3 Aug 1943 age 81 and their son Corp James Crammond killed in action in France 19 Jul 1916 age 25. The only name missing from the headstone is Ambrose Bray's however the cemetery has the record that he is buried in this grave.

I believe the following family is Ellen's.
The 1841 Census, Parish of Gwennap, Enumeration District 18, Book 11, folio 13, page 23, Tolcarne,1, has an Ann Bray 55, widow (crossed out) born in county, Josiah Bray, 22, Miner, born in county, William Bray, 19, born in county, James Bray 12, born in county, Ellen Bray 10, born in county and Ambrose Bray 7, born in county.

Ellen is not on any other census' after 1841.

I have not proven yet if Eliza Bray (also on the Cressy) is related ie sister or not. She is certainly not mentioned on the above census.

I will send you a copy of Ambrose's Death Cetrticate unfortunately I cannot put my fingers on it at present. My filing syustem is all over the place.

Henry James Harper (Ellen's husband) is buried at Welshman's Reef, Victoria he died 17 Jan 1877 before Ellen and her brother Ambrose.
Regards, Veronica

by harps on 2008-07-26 15:08:16

Dear Varonica,

I have just come across this site today in my search for info on the Harpers.

I am trying to find details from of the parents of Henry James Harper. As you have stated above I had them as Stephen & Marry.

Can you let me know how you came to find this incorrect and that they are actually Samuel & & Mary Testick.


by VeronicaF on 2008-07-29 18:59:21

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