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Looking for information on the family of Ellen Agnes Smith b.1895 London, UK

Query by ALV

I am looking for info regarding my grandmother, Ellen Agnes Smith born 23 February 1895; died 1976.

Ellen married my grandfather Henry William Ernest Lambert in Nov 1919 Islington, London, UK.

Her father is listed in the marriages as Thomas Smith, drayman, deceased.

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on 2012-02-10 02:59:35

Looking for all my family and my wife's links - basically Norton, Simons, Curtis, Wright, Vickers, Lambert, Ashby, Williams, May, Scott, Smith, Hambling, Timperley (Timperly), Davis, Pease, Howe, Thomas, Osborne, Corthine, Hardwick, Powis, Huckens, Vickery, Phelps, Howland, Chipman, Bassett, Claghorn,Cleveland, Dunham, Robinson, Mayhew, Hawes, Winn, Soule, Slade, Waterman, Dangerfield, Orpin, Camp, Singyard, Houghton,Leakey, Garland, Dawe, Lawrence & Cleal.

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by asheppard on 2012-02-10 18:45:45

Is this your grandparents marriage that you refer to above

Marriages Dec 1919 (>99%)
Lambert Henry J Smith Islington 1b 568
Smith Ellen A Lambert Islington 1b 568

This is the Parish Register for the above marriage

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Ellen Agnes Smith
Name: Ellen Agnes Smith
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Spouse Name: Henry Joseph Lambert
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 2 Nov 1919
Parish: Islington St Thomas
Borough: Islington
Father Name: James Smith
Spouse Father Name: Henry Lambert
Register Type: Parish Register

Grooms name and brides fathers name are different.

Grooms occupation Soldier - residence Cheriton Shorncliffe - listed as Bachelor aged 25
father Henry's occupation - labourer deceased

Brides Residence - 18 Gainsford Street Barnsbury no occupation listed, shown as spinster aged 24.
fathers occupation - Drayman deceased


I could only find the one marriage for Henry Lambert to Smith from 1915 to 1925, do you have a copy of the Marriage for Henry William Ernest Lambert to Ellen Agnes Smith.

by ALV on 2012-02-10 19:40:22

Thanks. You are right - I don't know why I put Thomas. I do actually have a copy of this but I couldn't read Ellen's address so thank you, I really appreciate it.

by asheppard on 2012-02-10 20:16:41

I just saw your other post it looks like you have crossed over the names.

Ellen Agnes Smith & Henry Joseph Lambert are Grandparents and Henry William Ernest Smith is their son, if so the marriage above is the right one for Henry & Ellen.

There are two births for Ellen Agnes Smith in 1895

Births Mar 1895 (>99%)
Smith Ellen Agnes Lewisham 1d 1211

Births Dec 1895 (>99%)
Smith Ellen Agnes W. Bromwich 6b 881

you would need to purchase the certificate to find out which one is yours there is also the possibility that she was registered as Ellen Smith and Agnes was added later.

This could possibly be her death

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Ellen Agnes Lambert
Name: Ellen Agnes Lambert
Birth Date: 23 Feb 1895
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1976
Age at Death: 81
Registration district: Wandsworth
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 15
Page: 1341

The death certificate may provide further clues and the birth date would suggest that the Lewisham 1895 Birth could be promising.

by ALV on 2012-02-10 23:08:15

Thank you very much. Yes I think that this is the right one for my grandmother. My father predeceased my grandmother and this must have been hard for her as he was an only child. I will now try to get her birth certificate. Thank you once again, I really appreciate this as I have been trying since 1996 to obtain info on my grandmother.

by ALV on 2012-02-10 23:45:52

I am looking for all info to do with my father's side of the family as I left the UK as a young child and had no contact with my father.

by asheppard on 2012-02-11 20:54:40

I found this marriage for Henry W E Lambert is this your father

Marriages Jun 1940 (>99%)

Lambert Henry W E Orger Uxbridge 3a 302
Orger Kathleen D M Lambert Uxbridge 3a 302

according to a family tree on ancestry Kathleen Daisy M Orger was born 28 Jan 1920 Islington and died July 1987 age 67 in Hilligdon

by ALV on 2012-02-11 21:44:04

Yes I believe this is right as I knew my father married a lady whose name was Kathleen Daisy Maud but never found her surname. Did my father and Kathleen have any children?

by asheppard on 2012-02-12 17:46:41

It doesn't look like Henry & Kathleen had any children, copies of their death certificates will give you more information and possibly list any children they may have had or adopted.

For information on UK BMD you look through this site it's free to search and will give you the GRO reference numbers for the certificates that you may need to purchase.

http://www.freebmd.org.uk

I found a Gladys E D Orger born 1922 sister to Kathleen, their mothers maiden name is Gooch.

by ALV on 2012-02-12 17:55:12

Thanks

by ALV on 2012-02-15 15:24:04

by ALV on 2012-02-15 15:24:04

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