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Looking for the family of Walter Douglas (NSW) born in Oxford, England

Query by Elounda

I am looking for the relatives of a Walter Douglas who lived in NSW for 45 years after emigrating from England in 1908. It appears that he married a Helena Horne in 1913 and they had children together. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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on 2012-10-17 14:25:26

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by noggin on 2012-10-19 08:30:30

This is registration on the NSW bmd site for his marriage


This is details of his passage to NSW in 1908

New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922
Name: Mr Walter Douglas
Port of Departure: London
Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales
Voyage Arrival Date: 16 Oct 1908
Vessel Name: Oroya

by noggin on 2012-10-19 08:56:47

Do you know when and where Walter died and his age at death ?

by janilye on 2012-10-19 10:38:09

In 1930 Walter and Helena Douglas were living at Flushcombe Rd., Blacktown Walter was a Railway Employee.
In 1936 both living at 30 Lane St., Wentworthville and Walter was with the Council
In 1937 moved to 11 Smith St., Wentworthville, Walter still with the Council.
In 1943 Walter was retired and living with Helena at 20 Ross St., Parramatta - also in the same house was;
George Maxwell Douglas 20 Ross St., timber worker
Ada Amelia Douglas 20 Ross St., Finisher
Helen Margaret Douglas 20 Ross St., Finisher
Leslie John Douglas 20 Ross St., No Occupation
Ruby Alice Douglas 20 Ross St., No Occupation
In 1949 Walter and Helena are living at 86 Windsor Rd., Northmead
also in this house is;
George Maxwell Douglas Timber worker
Helen Margaret Douglas, Textilist
Walter James Douglas, No Occupation
In 1954, still at 86 Windsor Rd., Northmead is Helena Douglas, George Maxwell Douglas, Helen Margaret Douglas and Walter James Douglas; but no Walter Douglas.
I searched nsw deaths between 1949 and 1954 and found this:
Living at Northmead the death would surely be registered in Parramatta.
In 1958 Helena is still living at Windsor Rd., Northmead with the same people.
In 1963 Helena Douglas and Walter James Douglas are living at 74 Windsor Rd., Northmead.
I searched msw. deaths between 1963 and 1981 with only one result:

by Elounda on 2012-10-19 14:25:09

Thank you so much to you both for searching for me. I had found him on the passenger list and had managed to find his marriage and death but had no idea of the years in between and names of his children. Can I ask Janilye where you obtained all of this information? Many thanks again to you both.

by janilye on 2012-10-19 19:26:29

I searched the New South Wales Electoral Rolls.
Original data from the Australian Electoral Commission.

Since 2010 Electoral Rolls may also be searched online through Ancestry.com.au
If you don't belong to Ancestry - phone a friend or ask in FamilyTreecircles.

NSW.BD&M. Births are not available after 1911 unless you are a relative, know who you are looking for and make a written application; therefore names of children are not available.

If you obtain either Walter's or Helena's DEATH certificates they should list the names of all children living and deceased.

The women named on the electoral rolls could be wives of the males listed and not sisters.

by janilye on 2012-10-19 20:36:31

In 1968 George Maxwell Douglas was living at 103 Blacktown Rd., Occupation Clerk, with May Eleanor Douglas.
here is his marriage:-

In 1980 George Maxwell Douglas is living alone at 36 Paton St., Woy Woy, Occupation Clerk.
Wife May Eleanor died in 1976

by noggin on 2012-10-20 10:03:22

This looks like walters family in Oxfordshire based on the parents shown in death reg.

1901 census for Douglas family:

Address: Claude Villa, Rack End, StandlakeCounty: Oxfordshire

John M 54 1847 Farm Servant Standlake, Oxfordshire
Sarah F 44 1857 Little Coxwell, Berkshire
Percival M 18 1883 Farm Servant Brighthampton, Oxfordshire
James M 15 1886 Farm Servant Brighthampton, Oxfordshire
Richard M 12 1889 Brighthampton, Oxfordshire
Frank M 8 1893 Brighthampton, Oxfordshire
Hellen F 6 1895 Standlake, Oxfordshire
Amy F 2 1899 Standlake, Oxfordshire

1891 census

Address: Longcot Road, Shrivenham County: Berkshire

FORD, Ambrose Head 1831 Agricultural Labourer Ashbury, Berkshire
FORD, Eliza Wife 1832 Laundress Coleshill, Berkshire
FORD, Elizabeth 1863 Dressmaker Longcot, Berkshire

DOUGLAS, Walter Grandson 1882 Scholar Standlake, Oxfordshire

BERNETT, Gertrude Granddaughter 1891 Swindon, Wiltshire

1891 Douglas family

Rack End, Standlake

John Head 1847 Boot Maker Brighthampton, Oxfordshire
Sarah Wife 1857 Little Coxwell, Berkshire
William Father Widower 1821 Brighthampton, Oxfordshire
Percival Son 1883 Scholar Brighthampton, Oxfordshire
Mary Daughter 1884 Scholar Brighthampton, Oxfordshire
James Son 1886 Scholar Brighthampton, Oxfordshire
Richard Son 1889 Standlake, Oxfordshire

by noggin on 2012-10-20 12:18:39

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
Name: Sarah Ford
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1881
Registration district: Faringdon
Inferred County: Berkshire
Volume Number: 2c
Page Number: 361

Spouse: John Douglass

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Walter Douglas
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1881
Registration district: Witney
Inferred County: Oxfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 759

The above looks like Walter's birth reg and his parents marriage reg.

It would best to get these before going back any further so establish I have the correct family.

by Elounda on 2012-10-21 04:30:26

Janilye, Many thanks for all of this info, it is a great help. I have ordered Walter's death certificate and his marriage certificate so hopefully this will throw more light with his children's names.

Noggin, Many thanks to you too! You have certainly got the right family. Amy, who is 2 in the 1901 census is my Great Grandmother so I had already managed to go back quite a long way through Oxfordshire censuses and BMD certificates. All of her brothers and sisters stayed within Oxfordshire, apart from Walter and another brother Ernest James(James).
They were both in the army and I have obtained their army/naval records but then it was unclear what happened to them.
It seems the mystery of Walter has now been solved but I have no more information on Ernest James (James). His Sea Service records state that he was transferred to R.N Barracks, Chatham in 1916 and then that's about as far as I can go. If you are able to find anything more on him after 1916 that would be very much appreciated. He was born in 1886 in Standlake, Oxfordshire. Thank you both for all of your help.

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