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Have you seen the entry in St Matthews Church,Masterton records [27/3/1882] for the private baptismal record for a child Mary Begley Peagram born September 1881?
No I haven't seen it - but I know she was born on 9th Sept 1881. However I can't find her marriage or death at this time
It may mean she was schooled in masterton too ..
Can't find a marriage for her mother Phoebe yet either ..
Have just found that Phoebe Peagram (Mary Begley's mother) married in 1882 to John Stanford-Davis
Will do more research
Phoebe Peagram was born about 1860 in Canterbury
- she was the daughter of Charles James Peagram and Mary Ann Sylvester
- she had Mary Begley on the 1st September 1881
- She married John Stanford-Davis on 13th December 1882
Thank you very much. I had thought from looking back to Star -8/12/1879 - Papers Past that William Bey was the ship doctor on the Hurunui. This would make his arrival in NZ late 1879 not 1881.I also have not had any joy finding Mary Begley Peagram -school, marriage, death etc. But private baptismal records at St Matthews church Masterton indicate fathers name -W.Bey -physician.Oops!
Also if William Bey was 67 in 1918 he was only 28 -29 years old when arriving in N.Z.
Matilda Phoebe Peagram was born in Hackney London on the 4th October 1863 lived at 39 Ann's Place Hackney Road died 1926in New Zealand daughter of Samuel and Elizabeth peagram married John Davis.
There is another family of Peagram's in Canterbury which could well be connected.
Many thanks for the contact. I do have this info already. Are you related to the Peagram's or Bey's? or just a lovely helpful person?
My husband's gg grandmother was Margaret Bey(1803-1860)She was the sister of Alexander Bey born 1801, who was William's grandfather.
Many thanks for this contact.
This thread is quite old now and it is a nice surprise to hear from you.
Can you explain the actual family link up - I get confused very easily!!- during my research period I found out a lot about Dr William Bey, his first wife and her family, their baby and his life in New Zealand after the death of his wife and child. Most of the info I passed onto his grandson as it was his direct family line.
Are you in Scotland? or somewhere else?
The common ancestors are James Bey and Ann Anderson who married 25/5/1788 in Tarland and had 8 children. Your ancestor Alexander (1801 - ?) and my husband's ancestor Margaret (1803 - 1860) were 2 of the children.
Alexander marries Ann Lowrie 9/9/1821 in Tarland and has 9 children. One of whom is William (1823 - ?) William marries Mary Morgan and they have William born 1851. This William is the one who went to NZ.
My husband's line is as follows:-
Margaret Bey (1803 - 1860) marries John Smith (1798 - 1876) They married 3/6/1824 in Tarland and have 11 children. One is Helen Smith (1826 - 1900) She marries James Fowler (1828 - 1910)They married 22/8/1847 in Logie Coldstone. They have 11 children. One is Duncan Fowler (1866 - 1927) who marries Mary Cooper(1872 - 1945) They married 22/1/1892. They had 8 children. One was Mary Fowler (1901 - 1983) She married Lewis Fraser (1890 - 1977) They married 3/9/1932 in Torphins and had one son, my husband, Duncan Fraser.
My husband and I were both born in Scotland, however we now live in England.
During our research we visited Tarland and Logie Coldtone. They are lovely little villages. Nothing much remains of the original dwelling houses.
Your William (1823) and our Helen Smith (1826 - 1900) were cousins. Helen Smith was my husband's great grandmother.
That is amazing - I know a small amount about William Bey, son of William Bey snr and Mary Morgan Bey. My interest was started when I found out he and my great grandmother had a secret child [who was adopted out] and I felt the need to investigate his background.
He - a handsome educated doctor from Scotland - and my greatgrandmother - a simple back country barely educated maid - it had all the elements of a tv soap series.Real life has a bite, doesn't it?
Your Wiliam and his father, William, who was a vet were the only "well educated" members of the Bey fsmily.
Their ancestors and the other immediate family were blacksmiths and farmers and lead a very simple country life. As you say it's like a soap series.
There were an abundance of illegitmate children born to both the male and female lines of the Bey family, so the educated doctor carried on the family tradition as far as that was concerned!
The Smith family who Margaret Bey married into were even worse! Two of them were involved in serious court cases. One (female) who was the victim of an assault and rape and the other (male) was was convicted of rape and assault.Two different cases.
Actually the female victim of the rape and assault was Ann Anderson. She was the great grandmother of William the doctor! I have a copy of the trial papers. These were obtained from the National Archives in Edinburgh.
Jean - you blow me away! Perhaps this is the basis for a family trilogy in the style of Catherine Cookson!
Dr William Beys' son - another William and very handsome - also had issue without marriage prior to dying in WW1 - according to family whispers.
Shall we continue this communication out of the public arena?
See private message..................I hope
I may be able to assist if you are still interested.
I am contactable on [email protected]
I live in New Zealand and I an the Great G Grandson of William Bey
We have already communicated in the past - refer to private emails to catken.....
Have you settled in your new home ok?
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