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Looking for Willson of Ballarat McFhees Coaches 76 Lydia St 1888

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on 2013-04-24 03:22:12

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by janilye on 2013-04-24 04:37:07

McPhee and Co. once owned this Concord. They had a run between Ballarat and Avoca. It carried up to 20 passengers and the mail slipped into those leather side bags. The Avoca run was usually driven by Mr.McPhee's son Tom.
Who was Willson? did he work for McPhee's

by wild1 on 2013-04-24 18:58:40

This what I thinkk I know about him. Apparently he worked as a groom. This is what I know from Ballarat Orphan Asylum documents and Ballarat Cemetery Records.He states he lived at 76 Lydiad St
He married Adelaide Simpson or Samson in 1880 .They had three children Albert Ernst Willson born 1880,Ethil Maud born Willson born 1882 and Charles Willson born 1888.

When his wife died in 1888 he placed the three children in the Orphanage.He paid 2/6 per week to the Orhanage to care for the children. Ethil stayed in Ballarat all her life. She married Charles Austin Rimington. The Remington family had a Pram/ bicycle shop in Ballarat.
Thomas buried his wife with Rebecca Jane Morrow,we think was his first wife who died 1878.Also in the grave is Robert Willson ,Ehil's twin who died several months. Anything information about Thomas or Thomas Byde Willson,he may also be know as John Byde Willson would be appreciated.
He was born Hertfordshire England and arrived Australia 1850 on British Queen(?) On the Orphanage documents he states he was a groom working for McPhees and gives his residencs as McPhees Stables.This dated 13 July 1888.
Any help in tracking his movements would be appreciated.I am also interested in McPhees Stables.

by wild1 on 2013-04-24 19:17:02

This what I thinkk I know about him. Apparently he worked as a groom. This is what I know from Ballarat Orphan Asylum documents and Ballarat Cemetery Records.He states he lived at 76 Lydiad St
He married Adelaide Simpson or Samson in 1880 .They had three children Albert Ernst Willson born 1880,Ethil Maud born Willson born 1882 and Charles Willson born 1888.

When his wife died in 1888 he placed the three children in the Orphanage.He paid 2/6 per week to the Orhanage to care for the children. Ethil stayed in Ballarat all her life. She married Charles Austin Rimington. The Remington family had a Pram/ bicycle shop in Ballarat.
Thomas buried his wife with Rebecca Jane Morrow,we think was his first wife who died 1878.Also in the grave is Robert Willson ,Ehil's twin who died several months. Anything information about Thomas or Thomas Byde Willson,he may also be know as John Byde Willson would be appreciated.
He was born Hertfordshire England and arrived Australia 1850 on British Queen(?) On the Orphanage documents he states he was a groom working for McPhees and gives his residencs as McPhees Stables.This dated 13 July 1888.
Any help in tracking his movements would be appreciated.I am also interested in McPhees Stables.

by janilye on 2013-04-25 08:09:36

Here are 4 children born to Rebecca Jane Morrow b: 1834 County Tyrone d: 30 December 1878, Ballarat, and John Willson, The evidence from Birth and death registery should assure you his name was in fact JOHN WILLSON when he fathered children to Rebecca Morrow.
I have not found a death registered.

1. Name: William John Thomas Willson
Birth: 1858 - Australia
SPOUSE: Ann Wild 1860-1928
MARRIED: 1886, Prahran, Melbourne
Death: 9 October 1944 at Canterbury, Victoria, Australia .
This couple had 2 children, Vera and Clifton
Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about William John Thomas Willson
Name: William John Thomas Willson
Father's Name: John Willson
Mother's Name: Rebecca Morrow
Birth Place: Prahran, Victoria
Registration Year: 1858
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 1325
Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Wm Jno Thos Willson
Name: Wm Jno Thos Willson
Death Place: Canterbury, Victoria
Age: 86
Mother's Name: Morrow
Registration Year: 1944
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 10539
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858

2. NAME: Agnes Willson
BIRTH: 1856 Melbourne.
SPOUSE: John WILD died 1886, Rowe St., Nth. Fitzroy.
MARRIED: 1878 at Ballarat
DEATH: 1917 Fitzroy, Melbourne
The children of Agnes and John Wild:
Arthur John Boyd WILD 1879 1941
Mary Rebecca WILD 1879 1961
William Daniel WILD 1882 1944
Jane Agnes WILD 1884 1975
Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Anges Willson [sic]
Name: Anges Willson
Father's Name: John Willson
Mother's Name: Rebecca Morrow
Birth Place: Melbourne, Victoria
Registration Year: 1856
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 11202

On these last two, this is all I have found.
3. NAME: John Byde Willson
BIRTH: 1855, Victoria
Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about John Byde Willson
Name: John Byde Willson
Father's Name: Morrow Willson
Mother's Name: Rebecca Jane
Birth Place: Victoria, Victoria
Registration Year: 1855
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 2968

4. David Willson
Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: David Willson
Death Place: Victoria
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Rebecca Morrow
Registration Year: 1860
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 2259

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
about Thomas Willson
Name: Thomas Willson
Spouse: Adelaide Simpson
Marriage Place: Victoria
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Year: 1880
Registration number: 2432

Adelaide Simpson 1862-1887
Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Adelaide Willson Name: Adelaide Willson
Death Place: Ballarat, Victoria
Age: 24
Father's Name: Simpson Robt
Mother's Name: Annie Redmond
Registration Year: 1887
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 5115
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863

by janilye on 2013-04-25 08:34:51

It's possible John and Thomas were brothers rather than the same person.
Rebecca and Annie, might have been in-laws sharing the grave.

by wild1 on 2013-04-25 14:36:11

Janilye,thank you for the quick responce and the info. Brothers might be the answer.I was not considering that angle. I will try to find more about them both in Hertsfordshire England.
Thanks again much appreciated.

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