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Martha Carbiss parents and her family of Origin

Journal by kerbent

Martha Carbis is my 3 x great grandmother, on her Australian death certificate it states that her fathers name was Richard Carbis and her Mother was Ann unknown. Her father was a Mariner according to the death certificate. Martha married my 3 x great grandfather in 1812 in Paul, Cornwall.

As death certificates are not a reliable source of information, John Carbis (from the U.K) who runs the One Name Society Data for Carbis World Wide, was contacted as another possible source of information. He had in his possession the Marriage Banns entry for John Bassett and Martha Carbis of Paul Parish. On inspection of the Banns entry it was discovered that one of the witnesses on the Banns was a Daniel Drew.
Further research was then conducted to try and find a Carbis family whose mothers maiden name was Drew. When searching the IGI I used the First name of Ann married to a man with the surname Carbis to look for possible children. Eventually I found a William Carbis who had married an Ann Drew who had amongst their children a Martha Carbis who had the same year of birth as my 3xgreatgrandmother.

William Carbis and Ann Drew had six children
i. Ann Drew CARBIS (1784- )
ii. Jane CARBIS (1786- )
iii.William CARBIS (1789- )
iv. Martha CARBENCE (1792- )
v. Martha CARBIS (Cir 1793-1882) (my 3xgreatgrandmother)
vi. Richard CARBIS (1797- )

The idea that my 3xgreatgrandmother Marthas father was William Carbis rather than Richard Carbis is supported by the following 3 points:

1.The change of her fathers christain name was an attempt to hide family Convict connections.
A family story through the generations was that one of the early Bassett brothers (which generation this concerned was not clear) was charged for horse stealing in Cornwall but managed to escaped to France/America and was never caught. Following this lead led us to look for some evidence of criminal activity.

In an article that appeared in the The West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser and another article on the 7th April 1815 in the Royal Gazette on the 22nd April 1815 it appears that William Carbis Marthas father was involved in sheep stealing in 1813.
William Carbis, sen. William Carbis jun. and Francis Bassett, a father, son and son-in-law, were indicted for stealing two ewe sheep belonging to Miss Borlase, of Madron, in December 1812
"The bill" was found by the Grand Jury in the Crown Bar durring the Lent Assizes in 1813. However the proceedings were the all the accused had absconded. According to a report in the "West Briton & Cornwall Advertiser", when the constables went to arrest them they were unable to execute their warrants, as all three men had gone to sea.

The real story turned out to be much more interesting than the family ledgend after all.

Based on the newspaper story we were able to to link Martha together with her family as demonstrated below

William Carbis (in the newspaper refered as William Carbis sen.) who had six children with his wife Ann Drew
i. Ann Drew CARBIS (1784- ) who married Francis Bassett brother of the husband of his sister John Bassett (in the newspaper refered to William Carbiss son-in-law)
ii. Jane CARBIS (1786- )
iii.William CARBIS (1789- ) (in the newspaper refered to William Carbiss son-in-law)
iv. Martha CARBENCE (1792-)
v. Martha CARBIS (Cir 1793-1882) my Martha Carbis who married John Bassett brother of Francis
vi. Richard CARBIS (1797- )

This probably wasnt her fathers first fray into criminal activity (as Martha got married 9 months before this event took place) and perhaps the shame was so great for Martha that she changed her fathers name using her youngest brothers first name so she wouldnt forget the white lie. The white lie helped to distance herself from her fathers misdeeds(?). Once in Australia people were unaware of her families criminal and convict connections and only a vague tale of horse theft remained atributed to no-one in particular as a small reminder of what had been left behind.

2. Naming Patterns of the times as explained below were common practice between 1700 and 1875. Both the Carbis and Bassett families seem to have used them as evidenced by certain names recurring down through the generations. Using these patterns working back from the children of John Bassett and Martha Carbis it is quite possible that Marthas fathers name is William Bassett.

Naming Patterns 1700-1875
The first Son was named after the fathers father (Marthas oldest son is John)
Second son named after mothers father (Marthas second son is William)
Third son named after the father
Fourth son named after fathers eldest brother
First daughter named after mothers mother
Second daughter named after fathers mother
Third daughter named after mother
Fourth daughter named after mothers eldest sister
Exceptions to the pattern occur when the naming system produced a duplication of names.
In that case ,the name was taken from the next on the list.
Another break in the pattern could be caused by a death.
If a child died in infancy, then the parents would name the subsequent new born the same name

Taken from: Tracing your Origins. By Angus Baxter.

3. The informant for the death certificate was not a family member, and would not have knowledge of the background of Martha Bassett nee Carbis.

Based on the above evidence I have come to the conclusion that Marthas parents were most likely William Carbis and Ann Drew of the Paul Parish, Cornwall.

I'd be interested to hear from anyone who has anything to add to my conclusions or wishes to dispute them. It would be great to add something more. Establishing connections between families and generations is very challenging, its very easy to make jumps in logic before i've realised what I'm doing.

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on 2007-10-23 00:04:09

kerbent , from Victoria, Australia, has been a Family Tree Circles member since Oct 2007. is researching the following names: EBBOTT, TODMAN, CRUMP and 14 other(s).

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by fredba on 2010-09-13 06:45:37

I am just making a start on my family tree.
I have some information and am thinking that I am also related to your martha...but a descendant of William born in 1789.

I live in Melbourne.
Would be great to catch up

by kerbent on 2010-09-14 05:37:12

Hi Fiona,
Always exciting to talk to someone who may even be distantly related are you referring to William Carbis who married Grace Martin's in 1809? which of the four children are you through?

by sapmoni on 2010-12-06 21:56:43

Hi, I am assisting an older woman with her family history research and she has a William Carbis (would be her GG grandfather) married about 1822, and I do not know if this is the correct date and also I have no name of his wife. The Carbis family seems to be a large one, so I don't know where else to look and I came across this webiste by google. Please advise, thank you very much.
Kind regards, Sarah Moni.

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