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MISCELLANEOUS NOTES. NEAR TULLAMARINE, VIC. AUST. (New entries listed in comments.)

Journal by itellya

While looking for specific information on trove, I can't help having a peek at other articles, with the result that my sheets of notes for the NAMES IN A LIST AIN'T MUCH GOOD journal, contain detail which I could: put into existing journals (taking hours to find the right journal and right spot),use to start new journals, to which I add other information later, or add those sheets to the mountain of such sheets whose primary purpose has been fulfilled.

I have decided to start a miscellaneous notes journal for the area around Tullamarine and another for the Mornington Peninsula so that the information is available now and so I can locate the information easily if I wish to add it to another journal later.

CAMP HILL/ GOWANBRAE.
Colonel E.E.Kenny was the grantee of crown allotment 4 of Section 4, Parish of Tullamarine, and later bought crown allotment 3. His property was called Camp Hill because many bound for Mt Macedon and later going to the diggings near Castlemaine, Bendigo and Heathcote would camp there on the way. It was bounded in the west by today's Broadmeadows Rd, Tullamarine and extended east to the Moonee Ponds Creek. In 1853, Kenny sold what became known to all the Tullamarine pioneers as Mansfield's Triangle on the west side of Macedon road (Melrose Drive).By 1859, a Mr McDonald was advertising the triangle as Gretna Green but had little success as it eventually became three portions, from Sharps Rd (Caterpillar Drive) of 26, 52 and 11 acres, owned by Sam Mansfield.

By 1863, J.Brown (appointed a magistrate) was the owner of Camp Hill. Under the same name, the property was later occupied by such as Hay Lonie, the Gilligans and the Williamsons. See THE OAKLANDS HUNT (1). They would have lived near the south end of Primula Bvd with a view of the creek valley and after 1928, of the trestle bridge.
There were two houses; one, an old timber one was pictured in the Broadmeadows Observer article "The Last of the Broady Farms" in about 1989. The last occupant of this house, Ian Farrugia, who had also been the last occupant of John Cock's Gladstone Park homestead, told me that the second house was a double storey house, slightly further south, that had been burnt down despite the sacrifice of a fireman's life in attempting to save it.

I don't know who was living in the house at the time but I suspect it was Scott, who owned the property by 1933. (Argus 10-3-1933, page 10.) He renamed the farm "Gowanbrae" and built a new mansion on the site of the present Atco factory (16 A2.) I was told back in 1989 that a Caulfield Cup winner had been spelled on Gowanbrae but the horse connection was stronger than that. I was told that Scott was a Dodge dealer but I don't know whether this was the father or one of his sons.G.L.Scott owned the farm by 1933 and used the property for beef cattle and sheep. He was also a horse owner and his son Alan had a licence as an owner trainer. Latrobe, owned by G.L., came third in the Melbourne Cup (Argus, December, 1934.)Alan and his wife had a holiday at the Hotel Canberra, perhaps a honeymoon. (Canberra Times, 27-4-1938, page 4.) An Oaklands Hunt report of 5-8-1935 shows that Alan was deputy Master of Hounds.The marriage of John Douglas, youngest son of G.L.Scott of Gowanbrae, was mentioned in Social Notes on page 8 of the Argus of 23-1-1940.

On page 215 of "Broadmeadows A Forgotten History", Andrew Lemon states that R.K.Morgan bought 35 acres from the Stanhill Group in 1961. This land was on the Moonee Ponds Creek floodplain and Morgan relocated his engineering business from Glenroy to this site. Gowanbrae had been Ansell and Cowan's dairy farm when Stanley Korman bought it. It is possible that R.K.Morgan was born on Gowanbrae and was a descendant of an early pioneering family in the Strathmore/Pascoe Vale area which was related by marriage to John English, who bought J.P.Fawkner's Belle Vue (later renamed Oak Park.) (I think this family is discussed at length in THE STOPOVER THAT STAYED or BETWEEN TWO CREEKS.)

The association of racehorses and the name, Morgan, with the Tullamarine farm was not new. When I listed the occupants, I forgot about W.R.Morgan, who was probably there between the Gilligans and Williamsons.
(Argus 13-7-1916.) A horse that had been injured in the Myross Handicap at Flemington had been sent for a spell at W.R.Morgan's farm at Tullamarine. (Myross was a farm established by George Newsom near Myross and Newsom Sts in Ascot Vale West.)

I think it was during Bruce Small's ownership of Gowanbrae that the Caulfield Cup winner was spelled there. Malvern Avenue recalls Bruce and his Malvern Star bicycles, made famous by (the later) Sir Hubert Opperman. Later Sir Bruce, he was the Gold Coast Mayor and gave his city great publicity by bringing his meter maids to Melbourne each year. Bruce was apparently not his first name.
(A. 19-6-1952, page 8. 4 FREED ON SIGN CHARGE.) A building in South Melbourne, owned by A.B.Small, Bulla Rd, Tullamarine, had been painted with a slogan expressing disapproval of Bob Menzies. This great orator was disliked by more than the defendants as my paraphrased version of a popular joke illustrates. Bob was flying over a city and said that he might throw a tenner out and make somebody happy. Somebody suggested that he should throw 10 one pound notes out and make more people happy. A third passenger said, "Why don't you throw yourself out and make everybody happy?"
(More about Hay Lonie and W.R.Morgan will be added later under CAMP HILL, CONTINUED.


(Argus, 22-7-1930, page 7, CATCH HIM AND KEEP HIM. This picture shows Tommy Reddan supposedly catching the piglet in a contest run by the Oaklands Hunt Club.

My HOTELS NEAR TULLAMARINE journal has a newspaper account confirming the claim of many Tullamarine oldtimers that Tommy Loft was single-handedly responsible for the closure of the Junction Hotel. No name is mentioned in the following but I'll bet the victim was Tommy Loft and the perpetrators were from the non-Methodist element of Tullamarine's population (perhaps spurred on by Squizzie Taylor!)
(18-1-1929, page 3.) A man responsible for the hotel's closure was being harrassed by locals and the police had to be called.

Chaffey is a name more often associated with irrigation and Mildura than horse racing, but Benjamin Chaffey, owner of 164 acres surrounding the Woodlands Homestead, was the Chairman of the V.A.T.C., as a report of his involvement in an accident shows. (Barrier Miner, 7-5-1935, page 1.)Woodlands, the residence and stud farm of the late Ben Chaffey, consisting of 164 acres was advertised for sale (Argus, 19-6-1937 page 2.)

Mr E.E.Allen, teacher at Tullamarine State School for a bit over eight years, was leaving for Moe Swamp. Miss Rowe from Holden School was to replace him.(Sunbury News, 25-4-1903, page 2.)
She was still there in 1906 when the Mansfields drowned at Bertram's Ford but married Frank Wright of Strathconnan and Mr Rogers filled in for a while until Alec Rasmussen arrived in 1909, teaching there for nearly twenty years.

(Argus, 23-3-1867, page 4.)Enoch, the second son of the late William Trotman, died on the 5th aged 26 at his residence "Springfield", Broadmeadows.
Springfield was a 360 acre crown allotment in the parish of Yuroke on the north east corner of Mickleham and Somerton Rds, with roughly a mile frontage to the former and a half mile frontage to the latter. Lavars' Greenvale Hotel was not on Springfield as a map in Symonds' "Bulla Bulla" indicates; it was on the south west corner on Machell's early subdivision.Springfield was later split into two parts and old Mrs McKerchar had Springfield North, which passed into the ownership of the Gambles who called it Brocklands after an ancestor, John Brock of Bulla and Janefield (near Bundoora.) It is now occupied by Aitken College. The southern portion is indicated by French Rd, named after Wally French who occupied this 180 acre farm.

The entry for Gilbert Alston in VICTORIA AND ITS METROPOLIS: PAST AND PRESENT mentions that Gilbert spent time at Tullamarine before settling at Bulla. His advertisement for an apprentice shows that he was still at Tullamarine in 1863. (Argus 10-7-1863, page 1.)It is likely that he was near the site of the electricity sub station, almost opposite the Melrose Drive/ Link Rd corner, which has been pinpointed as the site of Fred Wright's smithy. Mounsey probably bought it from Gilbert and it was taken over by Fred. (Victoria and Its Metropolis.)The Mounsey family was later prominent at Sunbury. Gilbert trained his nephew, William Alston, and Jenkins, who became early blacksmiths at Mornington. ("The Butcher, The Baker, The" by Bruce Bennett.)
The Bulla 1868 directory, which can be found in Kathleen Fanning's FANNING FAMILY website shows that William was still with Gilbert.
GOODBYE TO ONE SCRAP OF PAPER!

HANDLEN. The house which used to be immediately north of the Tullamarine Reserve in Melrose Drive until the early 1970's and whose acre block (1 chain x 10 chains) is now part of the reserve, was known as Handlen's house. Every single entry for HANDLEN on trove concerns William and James. William (formerly of Tullamarine) fought in the Boer War and was given a welcome home at the Tullamarine State School of which he was a former pupil (Argus 5-2-1902 page 5.) James, whose name is on the war memorial at the corner of Dalkeith Ave, was killed in W.W.1. His death notice (A. 20-7-1918 page 13) reveals that he was the brother of Willie, who was again serving) and sister of May.

Patrick Handlen (No. 867 on the alphabetical register)died at the age of 10 and was buried at the Bulla Cemetery in 1871. The son of Patrick Handlen and Mary (nee Guthrie)he was born in Tullamarine in 1861. The house demolished in the early 1970's may have been there in 1861 but the Handlens weren't living in it, according to Broadmeadows' 1863 rates. All the land bounded by Derby St was called Hamilton Terrace, part of Riddell and Hamilton's Cameston Estate which was subdivided in the early 1850's. Keilor's first available ratebook of 1868 shows that the Handlens weren't living on the south west side of Bulla Road either. Where were they?

Given the information about Patrick's parents, it seems reasonable to assume they were on Camp Hill (now Gowanbrae.) Broadmeadows' rates of 1863 reveals that H.J.Brown and Glenn and Guthrie were the occupants of Camp Hill. (page 12, "Tullamarine: Before the Jetport.") John Handlen, a drover, was in Handlen's house by 1900.(page 17.) By 1948-9, E.T.Morgan owned 2 acres plus the Handlen's old acre block. John Handlen's neighbour, on 6 acres towards the junction, was Noah Holland, another drover, who was discussed by Harry Peck in "Memoirs of a Stockman".
Young Patrick's father could have been in Tullamarine in the early 1850's, on "Glengyle" with the Guthries. This farm, later Thomas Bertram's Ellengowen, now comprises the market gardens in the horseshoe bend of the Maribyrnong River bisected by Browns Rd (Melway 14 G2.) The Guthries later moved to a large farm at Sunbury and the Handlens may have gone there with them for a while.

GUTHRIE-EADIE. The Eadies were prominent Sunbury pioneers. As mentioned just before, the Guthries moved to Sunbury. One of the Eadie boys, Alan John, had a farm at Berwick called Glady's Park (probably Gladys') by 1904 but would have met Elizabeth M, the second daughter of the late Peter Eadie, while growing up near Sunbury.They married at Dunblane, the residence of Elizabeth's mother in Sunbury. (Argus 22-10-1904.)
SEE MUCH DETAIL ABOUT THE GUTHRIES IN MY JOURNAL "John Thomas Smith and his electors."

BEALE-DUTTON (twice!) John Beale Jnr married Annie, the second daughter of Thomas Dutton, Glenroy. (Argus 3-2-1877 page 1.) Amazingly, Andrew Lemon's "Broadmeadows: A Forgotten History" does not even mention the Duttons; his superficial coverage of the pioneers is one of the reasons I started writing my history.I have been told that Bethal Primary School (6 G-H2)was so named because of Mrs Dutton's given name (which actually might have been Bethell.) However, Angela Evans' "Keilor Pioneers: Dead Men Do Tell Tales" has detail about the Duttons, involving, if I remember correctly, a wooden leg.

John Beale Senior of "Shelton" only had one* daughter, Sarah, who married Thomas Dutton (obviously Annie's bro.) She gave birth to a daughter and died on the same day at the age of 30. (Argus, 26-7-1878 page 1.)
* At the time of the marriage. See below.

Crown Allotment B of section 11, parish of Doutta Galla is bounded by Buckley St, Milleara Rd, Clark's Rd and Spring St-Rachelle Rd. Shelton consisted of three quarters of this, excluding the land west of Quinn Grove, plus lot 8 of the subdivision of Main's Estate (streets joining Craig St) which John Beale purchased on 1-6-1865. (Title documents.) Rachelle Rd may have been named after John Beale's daughter who died in 1859.

EXTRACT FROM "Early Landowners: Parish of Doutta Galla".
John Beale called his farm ?Shelton? and when he moved into No 18 (now 24) Ardmillan Rd. in 1890, he gave the same name to the house. John Beale?s twin daughters, Rachel and Rebecca, died of Diptheria on 3-10-1859; I wonder if there is any connection with the naming of Rachelle Rd. His two surviving children married members of the Dutton family, which farmed at Glenroy and Meadow Heights where a school was named after
Bethal Dutton. (I?d bet the Christian name was really Bethell; her mother was probably a daughter of Broadmeadows Township?s postmaster and pub owner, John Bethell!) John Beale Snr. died in 1906 and his son in 1916, after which the Ardmillan Rd. house passed to the latter?s son in law, Loftus Henry Moran.

GOODBYE TO ANOTHER SHEET OF NOTES MADE WHILE I WAS DOING THE J.T.SMITH AND HIS ELECTORS JOURNAL.

ARGUS 9-11-1921 P.9. Peter Niall was selling the bluestone Somerton Inn and 60 acres one mile from Craigieburn station. Was he related to David Niall of the Lady of the Lake at Tullamarine 70 years earlier?

ARGUS 1-12-1871 P.8. Michael Reddan of Deep Creek, Bulla, was intending to apply for a licence for the Bulla Hotel, which had 8 rooms exclusive of those required for family use.

ARGUS 6-8-1887 P.3. The Arundel herd (200 stud shorthorns) of the late Robert McDougall was to take place in November, with the sale of Arundel and Warlaby at about the same time.


ARGUS 30-7-1887 P.3. A terrific description of Glenara homestead, grounds, 4070 ac. estate (830 ac. with the residence) and neighbours. "Woodside" of 442 acres further up deep Creek may have been the 442 ac 2 roods 3 perches 13(2) Bulla Parish involved in the mortgagee sale, Argus 15-11-1902-Dillon? C.B.Fisher had Woodlands and Cumberland.

SUNBURY NEWS AND BULLA AND MELTON ADVERTISER 26-3-1898. Meeking the teacher praised for his efforts in the Hillary tragedy (NAMES IN A LIST AIN'T MUCH GOOD journal)was leaving this calling to become an inspecting entomologist under the vegetation diseases act.

CAMP HILL, CONTINUED.
W.R.MORGAN.
A thoroughbred genealogy website about the Australian turf mentions W.R.Morgan under COLONIAL FAMILY 13. STRALIA, brown gelding, 1919, was bred by W.R.Morgan, a prominent racehorse owner. He was raced by M.R.Morgan, mainly at small agricultural meetings. In 1925, however, he won the S.A.T.C. West End Draught Stakes. (It is only recently that the original names of races, such as the Cox Plate and Alister Clark Stakes,were replaced, or swamped, by sponsors' names. This would not have been the name of the race at that time.)

Western Australian Argus (Kalgoolie), 18-9-1917, page 36. Mrs W.R.Morgan's Roll of Honour won the Trial Handicap at Mentone.

Argus, 3-8-1926. Mr W. Morgan was President of the Glenroy Progress Association. He may not have been the owner of Camp Hill (Red Dome Stud.)

The Register (Adelaide) 20-9-1927 page 3. SPORTSMAN'S DEATH. Mr W.R.Morgan, who died last week, was well-known in racing circles in this state, for he paid several successful visits with horses. Mr Morgan had a small stud farm at Tullamarine etc.

ARGUS 9-11-1921 P.9. W. R. Morgan referred to Camp Hill as Red Dome Stud Farm .

The Western Australian (Kalgoolie), 4-10-1927, page 36. Information similar to the Advertiser but adds that his son Horace trained the horses and that one of the horses bred by W.R. was Red Dome. The stud may have been named after the horse or t'other way around.

H.J.BROWN.
This pioneer is mentioned regarding CAMP HILL near the start of the journal. He must have been on Camp Hill by March 1863; amendment, 1862, as you will see. Hugh Junor Brown, Thomas Bertram and Jeremiah Hanmer were appointed to the committee of the Common School at Tullamarine (The Star, Ballarat, 23-4-1863 page 3; 1-6-1863, page 4, gazetted.) This could have been the Wesleyan School at the bend in Cherie St, but could also have been the Seafield school. This latter school was mainly attended by the children of Presbyterians and may have been initiated by Rev. Reid, the subject of one of my journals; its agenda-"in short, the School to be assimilated as nearly as possible to the parochial schools of Scotland." (P.38 "Broadmeadows: A Forgotten History.)Thomas Bertram is the subject of another journal. I have never heard of Hanmer, which means that he resided on the west side of Bulla Rd as his name was not in the Broadmeadows rates of 1863. He could have been one of J.P.Fawkner's yoeman farmers near Mansfields Rd but was not mentioned in Keilor's 1868 rates. It is possible that he was a cousin of Richard Hanmer Bunbury, the grantee of Arundel.

The Mercury, Hobart, 11-12-1935, page 3s. WOMEN WHO HAVE HELPED TO MAKE AUSTRALIA. Pattie Deakin was born at Camp Hill, Tullamarine on 1-1-1863. She was the daughter of Elizabeth and Hugh Junor Browne. (This is the first time I have ever seen the e on his surname.) She lived there until 1867, when Hugh became a merchant in Melbourne. Pattie married Alfred Deakin in 1882. The article is well-worth reading.

HAY LONIE.
I can still remember the day, almost 24 years ago, that I first saw this name. The rate collector's writing was so bad that you really had to guess the names (after ten minutes spent identifying some of the letters in them.) The letters in this name were easily identified, but why would anybody name a child after fodder. It was a name I was destined never to forget!
Illustrated Australian News, 25-1-1888, page 14. George, the youngest son of James Lonie of Eden Bank, Pellueber, died at Camp Hill, Tullamarine on 28 December, aged 21 years.

Kilmore Free Press, 29-12-1892 page 2. DEATH OF MR LONIE. This article mentioned Hay's properties, Camp Hill, Lochton, at Bulla (Melway 177 A3 to D4) and the one near Kilmore, which was Valley Field if my memory of Victoria and its Metropolis is correct; I can't remember if the article mentioned the farm name but his funny christian name, surely a genealogical clue, certainly wasn't. Hay had drowned in the Yarra and some had suggested suicide but the article poo-pooed the idea. Missing teeth suggested a mugging although no bruises were found.

PURVIS AND HENDRY.
Somewhere, I have written about two Hendry youths vandalising Tullamarine S.S. 2613, on the Conders Lane corner, in about 1880. (Perhaps it was only a note about the article on the 30+ A4 sheets that made this journal necessary.)
Argus, 29-6-1855, page 4. James Purvis of Tullamarine and Christina Hendry, youngest daughter of Mr James Hendry of Perth, Scotland were married by special licence by the Rev. Thomas Odell. I believe that Purvis was a Methodist and that the wedding may have been in the Wesleyan school (at the bend in Cherie St. The Methodists purchased adjoining blocks near Post Office Lane (across Melrose Drive from Derby St) and in Riddell and Hamilton's Camieston Estate on Section 15 Tullamarine, west of Springbank-Wright St. The name of Purvis appears in both subdivisions, alongside those of Parr, Nash, Wright and Anderson, well-known Methodist stalwarts. Christina was probably a Methodist so they may have been married in Odell's Independent (Congregational) Church in Lonsdale St as a compromise.

The Star, Ballarat, 16-7-1863, page 3. James Hendry was gazetted as the postmaster at Tullamarine.
3(PM + NAUGHTY LADS)

PUBLICANS.Essendon Gazette, and Keilor, Broadmeadows and Bulla Reporter, 10-2-1916, page 4. ESSENDON POLICE COURT. Elizabeth Alexander, licensee of the Junction Hotel at Tullamarine, was a witness in a case. Minnie S.Anderson, licensee of the Lincolnshire Arms at the start of Keilor Rd, hadn't locked her doors as required.

THOMAS OF CARINYA.
The 1930 Keilor rates and plans of Loft's subdivision on Dalkeith show that Bertie A.Thomas was assessed on the present Tullamarine Primary School site, apart from the library site and the playground near Dalkeith Ave.
The Airport Acquisitions map (hopefully being cared for by the Hume Library) shows that R.S. Thomas had purchased much land, naming one farm, north of Annandale Rd,Tullamar. The Reddans' Brightview (later the Doyles' Ristaro), between Dalkeith (Fisher Grove)and the west end of Sharps Rd, was another of his purchases. The Thomas family had settled in the early 1940's on James Sharp's old Hillside (whose most recent occupants included Michael Reddan and George Dalley) naming it Carinya Park. They renovated and extended Sharp's house, using the stone from Sharp's kitchen to make gate pillars, according to Edie Thomas.

Edie told me that her husband's name was not really Joe; everyone called him Joe or Butcher Thomas. I happened to be passing Carinya Park one day and dropped in for a chat, which lasted for about two hours. One thing I forgot to jot down when I got home was Joe's real name. It appears from the following that he preferred to be called by his second given name of Stan.It was Harry Heaps who told me how Barrie Rd got its name (as in STREETS AND ROADS, verse 1, in the journal RHYMES OF OLD TIMES IN TULLAMARINE.)

Sunshine Advocate, 18-11-1949, page 8. Gone but not forgotten were:
Barrie Raymond Thomas, son of Edie, who died on 16-11-1947 aged 4 years and 7 months;
John Eward Brown who died on 15-11-1948. The two notices indicate that John was Edie's father and that Barrie's father (and John's son in law) was called Stan. Other family members are mentioned.
(Page 24 "Tullamarine Before The Jetport".)He may have continued Tommy Loft's saleyards and cornstore.

PAUL AND PETER ELLIS, GREEKS.
Harry Heaps, Olive Nash and Vivien Sutherland (a daughter of Ellis of Ecclesfield (south corner of Lancefield and Grants Rd, now the bend in Melrose Drive) all independently told me about Paul Ellis, a Greek, who had the land between the Nash farm (Fairview) and Glendewar. This would have been the triangular 77 acres which the Loves had from early days as illustrated somewhere by me, probably in Early Landowners, parish of Tullamarine, section 15. The new information (as usual found while looking for something else), name and date of paper not recorded, and in a death notice for Peter Ellis if I remember correctly, is that this Greek family called their property "The Chalet".

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by itellya on 2012-02-19 09:23:00

Names of people in new entries will be added to the title, replacing those formerly included.

by itellya on 2012-02-22 04:32:59

The procedure in the previous comment has been changed. I will list new entries in comments with the date they are added.
22-2-2012.
CAMP HILL (W.R.MORGAN, H.J.BROWN AND HIS DAUGHTER WHO MARRIED ALFRED DEAKIN, HAY LONIE.)
PURVIS AND HENDRY (TULLAMARINE.)
ELIZABETH ALEXANDER AND MINNIE S. ANDERSON, PUBLICANS.

by itellya on 2012-02-24 07:05:23

24-2-2012. PETER AND PAUL ELLIS, GREEKS, TULLAMARINE, BETWEEN FAIRVIEW AND GLENDEWAR.

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