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How to track down ancestor in early 1900's New Zealand?

Question by bjHART

My father in law Robert Hart was born in New Zealand. We only have his fathers name, Solomon Hart.I can,t find any birth records etc. I did find a Robert Hart, that was in the military file recordsfor WW1 N/N Army, but his birth date was 1889, which is 12 years earlier than we have. The rest of the record has a lot of coincidences. Birth date, 6/4,born Auckland, fathers name Solomon,trade or calling, farmers.these are all the same as info we already have on our Robert Hart! His hair colour was listed as the same, and religion same as my husbands. The convincing part was the fact that in the records, this Robert received damages to his Rhand by gunshot wound, injuries to 4 fingers,fingers missing. My husband said his dad had lost second and third fingers. He did not know anything about his dad being in the Army, and had a different story how he lost fingers. This all seems too eerie to not be the same person!! But the problem we have is even on his marriage certificate , he has birth date as 6/4/ 1901. I know with doing ancestry that dates don,t always match, but I don,t know where to go from here!!!?? It appears that his wife and family knew nothing about any of this!!!! I don,t know how I could try to track down the Hart family that came from Bombay area in NZ. We are not even sure when Robert actually came to Australia, but he married in 1936 in Adelaide, and apparently had no contact with family in NZ. His wife didn,t know anything about his family either! When he passed in 1960, she somehow tried to notify any family, but no results! She has also passed now, so can,t ask any questions. I would like to look into this a bit closer. Who do you suggest I could contact in NZ. It all seems very mysterious to me . Hoping you are able to help. Regards Veronica

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by akissling on 2016-01-22 18:34:23

This looks like it might help:
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=AS18971122.2.51&srpos=3&e=-------10--1----0%22Solomon+Hart%22--

by akissling on 2016-01-22 18:35:33

Also this must be Robert:
https://bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search.aspx?Path=%2fqueryEntry.m%3ftype%3dbirths#SearchResults

by akissling on 2016-01-22 19:09:55

I would order the birth certificate because it looks like the birth date on this record 06/04/1891. If you put in 06/04/1891 in both date fields with his name his record comes up. Try any other in April and his record doesn't show up. It would be worth the $20 to get the birth record.

by janilye on 2016-01-22 19:56:58

MISSING PERSONS.
Northern Advocate , 29 December 1921, Page 5
ONE FOUND AT WARKWORTH. WANDERINGS UNEXPLAINED. AUCKLAND, This Day.

Philip Solomon, missing since Thursday last, has been located at Warkworth. His mind is a blank in regard to his wanderings.
Robert Hutton Hart, a farmer of Ohaupo, came to the city on December 22 and left his motor cycle at a city garage. He has not since been heard of.—Press Assn

by janilye on 2016-01-22 20:20:55

NZ.BDM.BIRTHS
1891/1290 Hart Robert Margaret Jane Solomon
and here are some others-
1879/4019 Hart Eliza Margaret Jane Solomon
1881/10214 Hart Isabella Margaret Jane Soloman
1883/10152 Hart Thomas Margaret Jane Solomon
1888/16544 Hart Annie Margaret Jane Solomon
There were other's because Eliza was the third daughter
New Zealand Herald, Volume XLV, Issue 13890, 26 October 1908, Page 1
HART.
October 24, 1908, at Auckland, Eliza, third daughter of Solomon and the late Margaret Jane Hart, late of Bombay; aged 29 years, The funeral will take place at Bombay Cemetery, on Tuesday, October 27. at 2 p.m

I agree with 'akissling' the birth certificate is genuine and should be sought.

by janilye on 2016-01-22 20:34:22

Auckland Star, Volume XLVII, Issue 100, 27 April 1916, Page 12
HART.On April 26, at the residence of his son-in-law, 50, Sarsfield Street, Ponsonby, Soloman Hart, late of Bombay; aged 82 years. The funeral will leave Mr. C. Little's, Marble Arch, Hobson Street, by motor, for Bombay Cemetery, To-morrow (Friday), at 9 a.m. Friends please accept this Intimation.
NZ.BDM. DEATHS
1916/3887 Hart Soloman 82Y

by moog25 on 2016-01-27 17:07:48

Papers Past and the Archives in New Zealand have been invaluable in tracing my New Zealand ancestors.

by LadyBea on 2016-01-28 02:29:03

May I suggest getting a printout instead of a certificates. Usually a little more information on the printout and also can be cheaper.

by bjHART on 2016-01-28 02:36:38

Thank you for that I will keep that in mind.

by AliciaG on 2016-02-19 12:48:39

A Solomon and Margaret Hart arrived on in Auckland on the Black Eagle 1861. http://www.yesteryears.co.nz/shipping/passlists/blackeagle.html
And Solomon Hart of Ponsonby attended the jubilee of the Black Eagle's arrival
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=NZH19111118.2.86&srpos=4&e=-------10--1----2Solomon+hart--
Which would fit as Solomon is listed as living in Ponsonby when he dies

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