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My grandmother was Emily Phillips, nee Basing. Her father was Frederick...

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My grandmother was Emily Phillips, nee Basing. Her father was Frederick Basing, and her mother was Ellen nee Fry

the Basing family lived at various times in the Ballarat area in the 1800s, and came to Northern NSW when they had some children, Frederick at one time worked at Bolivia Station, a cattle property about 20km south of Tenterfield, and later the family moved to Hillgrove, and he worked in the gold and antimony mines there, and that is where Emily Basing met and married my grandfather Francis Phillps. His family lived at Dorrigo, and we have a photo of Frederick Basing with some other men sitting on a large cedar log they had felled, so we know that the Basing family lived at Dorrigo for a while and Frederick was involved in cedar and rosewood cutting.

we do not have as many details as we would like to have about the Basing family, and there do not appear to be many Basing family members in Australia, that could be because most children born appear to be females, so the family name Basing is uncommon now. A search of the Telstra white pages finds very few, and those that are there must be related to me, but so many of them either know stuff that they wont share with me, or just arent interested in sharing.

We have found lots of information on Charles Basing, a brother of Frederick. He was an artist who moved to the USA in about the later 1800s and he painted the huge murals on the ceiling of Grand Central Station in New York, plus murals at the Columbia University Club and the Carnegie Institute, he also did murals at many high schools in New York, the most controversial being the one two murals 20 feet high at Bushwick High School that included the images of nude females and the Board of Education refused to pay him for them as they said they were indecent, and he sued them for the payment and before it even got to be resolved in court he went to Morrocco to paint, was kicked by a camel and died from the blood poisoning that resulted from the kick. My grandmother Emily Phillps nee Basing was given some money by her mother Ellen Basing nee Fry from the estate of Charles Basing, and it was used by her and her husband Francis to buy a house at Burleigh heads in about 1936 that they sold after the war for about 500 pounds, land that is now worth probably millions of dollars - what a pity he did not keep it.

We would welcome any contact with any other person doing research into the history of the Basing family and will check back here frequently for any contact

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by Rockborne38 Profile | Research | Contact | Subscribe | Block this user
on 2010-04-11 16:59:17

My husband and I are interested in tracing the roots of our family and have been doing so since 1956, so we now have about 15+Gb of info on our computer about the families of both of us, and we are interested in making contact with any member of any of the families we are researching to share information, looking also for photos and certificates for any family member to add to our huge files on those families. After all these years they are still a "work in progress" and we would like more please

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by allycat on 2010-04-11 17:25:08

BASING births in QLD 1829 to 1914 - Nil
BASING deaths in QLD 1829 TO 1964:-

Reg # Given Names Surname Father's Name Mother's Name
1953/45543 Cora May Basing Frederick William Thomasena Enid Dent
1932/17395 Unnamed (F) Basing Frederick William Thomasina Dent
1938/39327 Norma Mary Basing Frederick William Thomasena Enid Dent
1922/480 Alfred Joseph Basing Frederick Basing Ellen Elizabeth Fry
1922/481 Walter Henry Basing - - ** aged 23 years
1934/403 Ellen Elizabeth Basing Joseph Fry Caroline Waldron

BASING marriages in QLD 1829 to 1934:-

Reg # Marriage Party Surname Marriage Party Given Name(s) Marriage Party Surname Marriage Party Given Name(s)
1927/1026 Dent Thomasena Enid Basing Frederick William
1928/312 Basing Ethel May Wall William Henry

SOURCE: Dept Justice & Attorney-General QLD - Family History Research click on 'Search Our Historical Records' then click on 'Launch the online historical index search'.

At the Australian Cemeteries Index website online, there are 3 search results for BASING:-

Family Name Given Names Birth Date Death Date Age Remarks Cemetery Portion Row Image
Basing Cora May 30 Sep 1953 20y unmarked South Brisbane General Part A T
Basing Thomasena Enid 15 Dec 1993 89y unmarked South Brisbane General Part A T
Basing Unnamed 26 May 1932 unmarked South Brisbane General Part A 2H

Brisbane City Council - Grave Location Search

Name Age Burial or Ashes Interred Year Cemetery
Basing Cora May 20 years 1953 South Brisbane
Basing Ethel May 84 years 1999 Mt Gravatt
Basing Norma Mary Unknown 1938 South Brisbane
Basing Thomasena Enid 89 years 1993 South Brisbane

PS: Please edit this journal to include the 'FRY' surname at the bottom.

by Rockborne38 on 2010-04-23 03:49:48

We cnnot understand the note above showing deaths of Walter Henry and Alfred Joseph Basing being listed as deaths in Queensland in 1922. Walter Henry served at Gallipoli with 15th Bn AIF, then later went to France, where he was wounded and died of wounds and is buried in France. Alfred Joseph was a member of 42nd Bn AIF, was also wounded in France and died of wounds and is buried in France. Both died in 1918 not long before the Armistice was signed, and we have copies of there records from the War Graves Commission, we have photos of the cemetary where they are buried, and have details of their gravesite in those cemetaries.If these records are on the BDM register in Queensland then they are not correct. we would appreciate any advice from alleycat

by Rockborne38 on 2010-04-23 04:57:23

Just an addition to the comment above, neither Walter or Alfred had lived in Queensland, they both enlisted in NSW, and at the time of their enlistment their parents were residing near Lismore. As Walter was in 15bn he may have trained in Qld prior to moving to Melbourne to train with the rest of his Bn who were recruited in Tasmania, and Alfred was in a Bn that was originally from Rockhampton, but their only time in Qld would have been for army training, and they did not die here, the only explanation could be that their mother moved to Cooroy to live with her daugther when Frederick died, so she may have installed a memorial plaque in a cemetary somewhere, but they should not be listed as deaths in Queensland.

by Rockborne38 on 2010-07-03 20:33:26

We are trying to find details of birth and marriage for my great grandmother Ellen Basing nee Fry and her brother Harry Fry.

The information we do have is:
Ellen married Frederick Basing either in Victoria or NSW, some time before 1887 because Emily Ellen is their daughter. Emily, who was their oldest child and my grandmother, was born 4th April 1887 at Bolivia Station near Tenterfield NSW, but we can find no record of that birth on BDM NSW.
We had been told that Frederick and Ellen married at Bolivia Railway Camp on 7th March 1885 but BDM NSW has no record of such a marriage and can find .no record of their marriage in Victoria. We do know that Frederick Basing was born in Victoria in 1860 so have not searched for a marriage record for them other than in Australia.
We believe, but cannot be certain, that the parents of Ellen Elizabeth Fry were Joseph Fry and Caroline nee Waldron, but cannot find any record of them, and assume they were both born in England and may have married there, and we can find no information on their death.
We do know that Ellen died on 14th March 1934 at Kilcoy Qld, and have found a mention in burials for Qld, and at her death her age was given as 66 years, meaning she would have been born 1868 and was aged 21 when she gave birth to my grandmother Emily Ellen Basing.
the brother of Ellen Fry was named Harry, he enlisted into the Australian Army in November 1914 and gave his age as 43 at time of enlistment, and his place of birth as Gloucestershire England. Harry Fry died in 1929 in Armidale NSW death record for NSW 3835/1929 refers, shows his father was Joseph and mother Caroline.
At his enlistment Harry first gave a sister as his next of kin, she was Hanora Harris (Sister) wife of William Harris, Farmer, Dunoon,
His military record shows he later changed his next of kin to be Ellen Basing, (my great grandmother) his sister and gave an address in the Lismore NSW area.
We do not know if Harry was his birth and baptism name, or whether that was a name taken from a correct name of Henry, or whether it was a nickname and that he was recorded at birth and perhaps baptism under some other first name. We do not know if he had a second Christian name

If we could find any records of birth for Ellen Fry and Harry Fry, and perhaps of Hanora Fry, then we could then confirm the names of their parents, and we may then be able to find more information to add to the family tree of these ancestors of mine, but from the above information you can likely see that we have hit dead ends with this search.

by emilymay on 2010-10-03 21:09:13

i am also doing research on phillips/shufflebottom fa mily albert and harriet are my husbands g grandparents I bhave just visited du ngog and found a john phillips death but albert is not listed can you help

by Rockborne38 on 2010-10-03 21:49:40

Hullo Emily May. We tried to read you private message that you sent, but there is no message there, and we have sent you a private message asking you to send it again. If you would like to send another private message, with your email address, we can give you lots of details about Albert Phillips, photos of him and his family, the full details of all their children, photos and certificates for many of them and lost of historical details about the whole family, including certificates of the birth and death of some of the half brothers and sisters of Albert. We look forward to contact with you. We also have contact details for many of the current generation in the Phillips line from Albert, and can put you in touch with them as well, and depending on where you live, you may find some live near to you.

by lully on 2011-03-29 05:52:48

hi rockborne38 my name is john lulham i beleave iam albert phillips g g g grandson have some details would love more

by Rockborne38 on 2011-03-29 14:41:11

Hi John, my husband and I used to visit Tom and Dulcie in Dorrigo every time we went there over the years, from the 1960s through to the 1990s, and have a cuppa with them, it was sad to see them go, they were both wonderful people who alwyasy made us so welcome, and Tom was so proud of his garden and so annoyed at the lack of maintenance of all the railway engines and carriages in the rail yard at Dorrigo, You can contact us by email on fil_pere@bigpond.com direct, we would love to hear from you. From the family records we have you must be the second child of William Thomas Lulham and his wife Marie nee O'Neill, Phyllis has mentioned your Mum to us, and we visit Phyllis and Gail at least yearly up at Nambour, please send us an email for easier contact.

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