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My ORTH Family Tree ... from Prussia to Australia

Journal by allycat

My 6g grandfather, Johannes ORTH was born abt 1744 Kircheim, Hessen, Germany married unknown and had one known child, 5g grandfather Konrad ORTH born 1770 Kircheim, Hessen, Prussia.

Konrad ORTH married three times:-

First marriage in 1790 at Wassmuthshausen, Hessen, Germany to Anna Dorothea GUTHEIL born 15 Jul 1765 Wassmuthshausen, Hessen, Prussia. She was the daughter of Johann Konrad GUTHEIL born 1739 Wassmuthshausen, Hessen, Prussia and Anna Kunnigunda WEIDEMANN born 1741 Wassmuthshausen.

8 children of Konrad ORTH and Anna Dorothea GUTHEIL:-

1.Johann ORTH born 6 Feb 1790 Roppershain, Hessen, Germany
2.Anna Martha ORTH born 23 Mar 1794 Roppershain, Hessen, Germany
3.Nikolaus ORTH born 16 Aug 1796 Cassdorf, Hessen, Germany
married 1) Katharina Elizabeth GUDE in 1817
married 2) Anna Katharina BOTT in 1853
4.Anna Katharina ORTH born 31 Jan 1799 Roppershain, Hessen, Germany
married Johann George DEUBELL in 1838
5.Johann Heinrich ORTH born 13 Jan 1801 Roppershain, Hessen, Germany
6.male infant 12 May 1804-14 May 1804 Roppershain, Hessen, Germany
7.male infant 12 May 1804-14 May 1804 Roppershain, Hessen, Germany (twins)
8.Johann Heinrich ORTH born 1 Jul 1805 Roppershain, Hessen, Germany - 4g grandfather

Konrad ORTH married a second time, after his first wife Anna Dorothea GUTHEIL died 22 Jan 1812 Roppershain, Hessen, Germany. Konrad married Anna Elizabeth WEIDERHOLD on 21 Nov 1812 at Wernswig, Homburg, Hessen, Prussia. She was born 23 Jul 1777 Wernswig, Homburg, Hessen, Prussia - parents names unknown.

2 children of Konrad ORTH and Anna Elizabeth WEIDERHOLD:-

1.Anna Elizabeth ORTH 1 Sep 1813-7 Sep 1813 Roppershain, Hessen-Nassau, Germany
2.Johann Adam ORTH born 22 Jul 1815 Roppershain, Hessen, Germany
married 23 Aug 1804 at Berge, Hessen, Germany to Katharina Elizabeth RAUBER. Parents names unknown.

Konrad ORTH married a third time, after his second wife Anna Elizabeth WEIDERHOLD died 14 Feb 1819 Roppershain, Hessen, Germany. Konrad married 13 Nov 1819 at Cassdorf, Homburg, Prussia to Anna Barbara HAUSMANN who was born 29 Oct 1786 Lendorf, Hessen, Prussia.

3 children of Konrad ORTH and Anna Elizabeth WEIDERHOLD:-

1.Anna Maria ORTH born 23 Dec 1820 Roppershain, Hessen, Germany
2.Konrad ORTH born 20 Oct 1824 Roppershain, Hessen, Germany
3.Anna Martha ORTH born 1 Feb 1827 Roppershain, Hessen, Germany

My line of descent is from the 8th child of Konrad ORTH and his first wife Anna Dorothea GUTHEIL, Johann Heinrich ORTH.

Johann Heinrich ORTH married 23 Oct 1833 at Berge, Hessen-Nassau, Prussia to Anna Maria SEIGNER born 18 Aug 1804 Verna, Hesse, Prussia to parents: Johann Adam SEIGNER 1756-1815 and Anna Martha HOFFMEYER 1762-1830 both of Verna, Hesse, Prussia.

8 children of Johann Heinrich ORTH and Anna Maria SEIGNER:-

1.John ORTH born 29 Sep 1830 Verna or Roppershain
married 1855 Hamburg, Germany to Anna Elizabeth SCHROEDER ... emigrated to Australia
2.Konrad ORTH born 1833 Roppershain
married Elizabeth WEIGAND
3.Elizabeth ORTH (ancestor) born 20 Sep 1835 Roppershain
married 31 May 1860 at Boondooma, Bundaberg, Queensland, Australia to Johannes Heinrich WEBER born 1829 Diekschied, Hesse, Prussia, Germany
4.Heinrich ORTH born 22 Jan 1838 Roppershain
married in 1867 at Berge to Eva FRODE
5.Anna Elizabeth ORTH born 30 Oct 1840 Roppershain, died age 27
6.Anna Martha ORTH born 3 May 1843 Roppershain
married 1864 Ofaffenhausen, Hessen, Germany to Ludwig KURZ born 24 Dec 1839 ... emigrated to Australia
7.Anna Katharina ORTH born 8 Mar 1845 Roppershain
8.Anna Dorothea ORTH 1848-1860, died aged 12 years

My 3g grandparents, Elizabeth ORTH and Johannes Heinrich WEBER [marriage certificate available, but .jpg file is too large to attach to journal] had 9 children in Australia (surname changed to add an extra 'b'):-

1.William WEBBER born 1859 Bundaberg, QLD Australia
married Sarah Margaret MILLER
2.Henry WEBBER born 1862 Bundaberg, QLD Australia
married Isabella Francis CAMPBELL
3.Mary WEBBER born 1863 Bundaberg, QLD Australia
married Frederick VOSS born 11 Apr 1856 'Gurley Station' near Gunnedah NSW (my 2g grandparents)
4.John WEBBER born 1866 Glen Innes, NSW Australia
5.Frederick WEBBER born 1869 Glen Innes, NSW Australia
6.Frank WEBBER born 1871 Glen Innes, NSW Australia
7.Emily WEBBER born 1874 Glen Innes, NSW Australia
8.Ann Martha Elizabeth WEBBER born 1877 Glen Innes, NSW Australia
9.Robert Thomas WEBBER born 1878 Glen Innes, NSW Australia

6 children of Mary WEBBER and Frederick VOSS:-

1.John William VOSS born 2 Sep 1884 Inverell NSW Australia
died of Diptheria aged 12 years
2.Frederick Henry VOSS born 1 Apr 1887 Glen Innes NSW Australia
married Olive Blanche LIGHTFOOT and had two children
3.Henry Frederick VOSS (known as Harry) born 9 Oct 1888 'Pindaroi Station' near Moree, NSW Australia married 1916 at Ashford NSW to Elsie Louisa Rhodes MERRY born 20 Jul 1897 at 'Merrydale', Ashford, Inverell, New South Wales, Australia (my g grandparents). I have a lovely photograph of Harry taken C1949 with two Koalas.
4.Ernest Francis VOSS born 17 Aug 1890 Glen Innes NSW Australia
married in 1930 to Flora Jeanette MCLENNAN 1900-1949 and have two LIVING children
5.Caspar Orth VOSS born 7 Feb 1896 Inverell NSW Australia
married Christina MCDONALD
6.Blanche Wilhelmina Nita VOSS born c1906 NSW d c1997 Gold Coast QLD
married (1) Ivan Ezzerd EDMONDS, and
married (2) James Blakely SPIERS

Henry Frederick VOSS and Elsie Louisa Rhodes MERRY had 5 children:-

1.Ethel Mary VOSS married 1.Edgar Gerald WOODCOCK (my grandparents)
married 2.James HILDRED
2.Ida Ann Hearne VOSS
married Philip Ernest DALEY
married Frederick William NORRIS
3.Iris Francis VOSS
married Mervyn John SMITH
4.Coral Jessavine VOSS
married Ernest Alfred MANTON
5.(LIVING) VOSS


The source of all the information contained within this journal comes from a variety of people, in particular Graham Shirra who supplied a great deal, and also Don Webber (cousin of my grandmother) and Ethel Voss. Other sources are: NSW and QLD BDM Indexes, family records and oral history, Parish Records in Germany, the Viermuenden Church Book, and the IGI from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

Much more information is also available to descendants upon request.

Regards, Alison
QLD.

by allycat Profile | Research | Contact | Subscribe | Block this user
on 2006-07-24 09:54:29

allycat , from sunny Queensland, Australia, has been a Family Tree Circles member since Mar 2006. is researching the following names: HOY, MOST, ORTH and 610 other(s).

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Comments

by katiedonnelly on 2009-11-03 01:25:28

Hi,

This is a great record. I too am a descendant of Elizabeth Orth (Emily Webber was my great grandmother). I have a number of documents pertaining to the family's time in Australia (naturalisation etc) that were researched by my uncle. I am very interested in finding more records, especially photographs and records that may give information about why some children left and others did not.

I look forward to your reply.
Thanks,
Katie Donnelly

by damomerry on 2010-02-04 02:01:36

Hi,

My name is Damien Merry and I was hoping you could fill me in on my Family History. My Grandfather was born at Merrydale in Ashford in 1917 to Florence Rhodes- Merry . I would so love to hear from you.

Looking forward to hearing from you
Damien Merry

by damomerry on 2010-02-04 02:16:46

Hi again,just wanted to add that Elsie Lousia Rhodes Merry was my Grandfathers aunty

by tomhorth on 2011-05-27 15:00:27

Hi Alison, very interesting website. The reason I am especially interested is that a John Orth, Hessian soldier, is thought to have settled in Quebec about 1796 and become the progenitor of the large Horth family who still live there. This could be proved by Y-DNA testing. A member of the Quebec family has been tested. See http://horthdna.tribalpages.com. Do you know if any Orth has been DNA tested?

Sincerely, Tom Horth

by allycat on 2011-05-27 22:46:46

Dear Tom, Hi. Cannot answer if any Orth has been DNA tested. Would like to 'read' about your HORTH ancestors. Thank you.

by tomhorth on 2012-07-04 12:57:33

Hi Alison, just now saw your response to my previous post. My Horth family and the Qubec Horth family are now both on Ancestry's free WorldConnect website. My family has been shown by DNA testing to be closely related to the English Horth family, and I think I've worked out the exact connection. The Qubec Horths have been shown by DNA testing not to be closely related to the English Horths. There is some limited documentary evidence that suggests that they are descended from the Oths of Hessen, and DNA evidence could either affirm or deny that, if we could find an Orth willing to be tested. The necessary Y-DNA test costs US$ 170 or less, and only males can be Y tested.

Best wishes, Tom Horth

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