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New Zealand: Looking for William COTTIER and Mary Jane GRYLLS ... updated

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Looking to fill in some blanks in my family tree. I have:-

William COTTIER born 1840 Isle of Man, England
married 26 Jun 1867 New Plymouth, Taranaki, New Zealand (source: IGI) Mary Jane GRYLLS (IGI has CRYLLS!) born 1846 New Plymouth, Taranaki, New Zealand. Parents names not yet known for the couple. William COTTIER died aged 65 years and was buried 1905 New Plymouth Cemetery, New Zealand. Details of wife's death/burial not yet known.

Seven (7) Children:-
1. Henry William COTTIER born 10 Feb 1868 New Plymouth, Taranaki, New Zealand died 11 Nov 1947 New Plymouth (source: IGI), buried 1947 aged 79 years New Plymouth Cemetery, New Zealand, married 1895 Priscilla Ida COWLING born 1871 New Plymouth died 1948 New Plymouth, daughter of William COWLING and Mary HAWK. No children yet known of, but possibly there were. I have found a burial record for an infant Henry William COTTIER that died in 1906 aged 11 months, buried New Plymouth Cemetery. Wondering if this was Henry William COTTIER Junior?.

2. Charles Percy COTTIER christened 13 Jan 1873 New Plymouth (source: IGI). Death/burial records not yet found. Search June 2008.

3. Emma May COTTIER christened 25 Jan 1874 New Plymouth (source: IGI)

4. Sydney Mason COTTIER christened 3 Feb 1876 New Plymouth (source: IGI). Died 1953 aged 77 years, buried New Plymouth Cemetery.

5. Richard Grylls COTTIER born 1877 NZ died 1940 Stratford, Taranaki married 1904 Folio #2147 Ella Sophia EDGECOMBE born 1879 New Plymouth died 1964, 5 children. Ella was the daughter of Charles EDGECOMBE and Julia Sophia MOYLE. Five children: William b 1905, James b 1906, Howard b 1911, Kenneth 1914-1981 and Joan b 1918.

6. Jessie Black COTTIER christened 15 May 1879 New Plymouth (source: IGI)

7. Ivy Gertrude COTTIER christened 24 Mar 1881 New Plymouth (source: IGI)

Questions:
a) Can anyone find when/where William & Mary COTTIER died or are buried?
b) I have spousal names for two of their children. Can anyone find marriage records for their other five children?
c) When did the COTTIERs and GRYLLs come to New Zealand?

Interesting websites:-

'Amelia Thompson' arrived New Plymouth 3 Sept 1841 mentions a GRYLLS family.

New Zealand Yesteryears - Passenger Lists - 'Earl Stanhope' mentions passenger the Reverend J.C. GRYLLS 20 Feb 1840.

Cottier Family NZ website

Cottier Estate 2005 Wairarapa Pinot Noir

GRYLLS family burial records New Plymouth, New Zealand

A Roll of Honour : Book Collectors mentions a Rev. William GRYLLS, Vicar of Crowen, Cornwall Bequeathed to Trinity College, Cambridge, in 1863. The Grylls family appear to have belonged to Tavistock, Devonshire, where they were found in the reign of Elizabeth. But the name and stock are traceable back to Edward I.


Regards,
Alison
EDGECOMBE/HEWLETT researcher.

Surnames: COTTIER COWLING EDGECOMBE GRYLLS HAWK MOYLE
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by Nanna on 2008-10-03 16:54:46

In answer to your questions:
a)Mary Jane died 4 June 1910, New Plymouth.
(www.newplymouthnz.com, click on cemetery search, towards the bottom right hand corner), buried TeHenui Cemetery, New Plymouth.
William is buried there too.

b)This info from the NZ Brides & Groom CD - not proven of course.
Emma married William Rankin in 1899, NZ
Sydney married Florence Eveline Avery in 1904, NZ
Jessie married Percy Mitchell in 1901, NZ
Ivy married George Mayo Kebbett in 1903, NZ
(That is all I have) on the marriages.

c) Mary Jane Grylls parents are Richard Grylls and Mary Ann Autridge. Richard and Mary Ann came to New Plymouth on the "Amelia Thompson" in 1841.
The Cottiers I don't know.

Hope this helps.

by allycat on 2008-10-04 13:10:52

Dear Nanna, Hi. Thanks so much for your comments. Also I have found many other people's names in my family tree who are buried in the New Plymouth cemeteries. Thanks so much for the website.

Alison.

by kiwijohn on 2008-12-14 03:35:56

There are number of GRYLLS from Helston, Cornwall. They appear to have been of military or church background. There is a monument to Humphry Millet GRYLLs in Helston and a Rev Richard Gervys GRYLLS of Helston upgraded a window in the St Noets church during the 1820s. His grandchildren were in the Navy and Army serving in the Crimea amongst other areas.

John

by kiwijohn on 2008-12-14 05:39:39

From the Taranaki Herald Mrs W.H. COTTIER gave birth to:
son on 23 Mar 1900
a son 4 Oct 1905 at Inglewood
a dau 25 May 1908 at Inglewood.

A son William of William of the Taranaki Hotel died on the 15 Feb 1872 aged 9 months.

Mrs Sydney COTTIER gave birth to
a son on the 9 May 1908.

Charles Percy COTTIER married at St Peters, Wellington on the 19 Feb 1908 to Mary 6th dau of the late William COLLINS of Parramata, NSW.

She gave birth to a dau on the 24 Oct 1909 at Mt Edgecumbe St, New Plymouth.

Charles Percys previous wife Annie died at Gover St, on the 7 Apr 1906 aged 30.

Charles Percy was, it seems a well known photographer with a studio in Devon St at least during 1902-1905.

Mrs Sydney COTTIER gave birth to:
a son on the 3 Mar 1907
a son on the 9 May 1908.

A COTTIER Snr, presumably the father of William died 1 Aug 1881, he was from Aust and had been in New Plymouth about 12 years, circa 1869.
His name nor age are mentioned. He was a contractor.

In the issue for 6 Oct 1893 there are photos of Mr and Mrs W. COTTIER.

Mrs W COTTIER had a dau on the 5 Jun 1869
and William sometime in 1871 (d.15 Feb 1872)
it was reported that she had 8 children at her death.


Hope this is of some help to you,

John

by kiwijohn on 2008-12-14 06:04:43

Believe that the dau born to Mrs W COTTIER on the 5 Jun 1869 may be Ella Mabel COTTIER who died 1 Jun 1959 and married Edward Ridley BEAN.

Charles Percys first wife may have been Annie PAYNE.

They had a child Ralph Deemster COTTIER born Jan 1905, died 4 Apr 1905.

Henry William and Priscilla Ida had a son Noel George COTTIER on the 16 Dec 1913, died 8 Oct 1930.

by cowlingg on 2011-08-28 00:18:06

Hi allycat, I just came across your site while doing genealogy stuff. Priscilla Ida is one of 13 children, one of which (William) I am descended from. Priscilla and William Cowling worked at the Taranaki Hotel in Inglewood (now known locally as "The Top Pub") and owned by Henry's father William. Henry was the Draper across the railway line/road. They had an illegitimate son Bernice Victor b.5 Oct. 1895 and c. 6 Jun 1896, only lived a short time and buried at Hurdon Cemetery in Westown, New Plymouth. Priscilla married Henry on 6 Aug. 1896 at the residence of her mother, Mrs. Mary Cowling. They had a further 8 children:-
Eric Roy - no b. date known but died 4 Mar. 1989
Alice Mary - b. 21 Apr 1897
Rita May - b. 14 Feb. 1899
Gerald Methuen - b. 23 Mar. 1900
Cryil J - nothing known
Noel George - b. 16 Dec. 1913
Clestra Ida (tot) and Thelma Mavis - twins born 25 May 1908.
I've not done much research into the COTTIER line, but hope this is of some help to you, albeit a bit late.
Cheers,Graham.

by allycat on 2011-08-28 03:58:44

Thanks Graham, and ... it's never too late.

by van_cot13 on 2013-08-03 00:15:22

Hi I have just started researching my family history as I am a Cottier. I have started off on ancestry.com.
I am related to the William Cottier mentioned above. We have old photos etc and I would love to share information with any others researching the Cottier line.

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