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NEW ZEALAND: Miscellaneous data on HARRIS, LOMAX, NATHAN families

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Dear Readers, In my general research of the HARRIS families, their ancestors and descendants, I have come across the following information, not sure where it all fits in yet though.

Miscellaneous data on HARRIS, LOMAX and NATHAN families in New Zealand.

Research from index card in a Research Room - card Yeoman page 2 April 23 1886:-

HARRIS Samuel Wanganui resident of Wanganui met with a nasty accident on the Porewa Contract by which his foot was crushed to pieces. He was brought in by train on Saturday and yesterday Dr EARLE hospital surgeon assisted by Drs TRIPE and CONNOLLY took off the foot. Today the young fellow was in fair spirit and there us every indication the operation is a success.

NATHAN Mr. Henry October 1 1881 page 8 The Yeoman new house just completed Glasgow street. Writeup on house down to pots and pans.

LOMAX Mr. James, Segebrook, The Yeoman page 3 July 16 1881 son has case of lockjaw. Writeup LOMAX William (Boys) Wanganui High School exam results.

LOMAX Henry Dec 1880 Std 11 Boys Wanganui High School Excelled in arithmetic.

LOMAX H.A. Mr selected for common jury service 16th Sept. September 12 1884 The Yeoman.

LOMAX James ratepayer Wanganui Supporting Henry NATHAN in Mayoralty election (copy of advert available).

LOMAX Mr and Mrs. Wanganui The Yeoman July 24 1885 page 2 At fancy dress ball dressed in red white and blue (more info available).

Surnames: CONNOLLY EARLE HARRIS LOMAX NATHAN TRIPE
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by peternathan on 2007-06-10 19:32:01

Hi

Are you related to Henry Nathan ?

Cheers

Peter Nathan
peter.nathan@xtra.co.nz

by allycat on 2007-06-11 02:59:18

Dear Peter, Hi there. I'm not related to Henry NATHAN, but I do happen to have quite a bit of NATHAN family history at my family tree website at tribalpages.com. I'm researching emigrants to New Zealand from Plymouth, England on behalf of my mother-in-law. And I have in my possession the most marvellous book (which we purchased) called "Faith, Hope & Courage - The Story of Edwrd & Mary Moyle and their Descendants" E.Lynch & K.Fincham. I haven't gone through the book in its entirety yet but no doubt it may have NATHANs in it.

Extract from my family tree:-

Sarah Ann HARRIS 1844-1878 Wellington NZ daughter of Samuel Gregory HARRIS* 1816-1902 and Mary Jane BROWN* 1823-1898 married 1867 to Anthony NATHAN 1843-1932 and had five children:-

*This couple were my mother-in-law's gg grandparents.

1.Alice Maude NATHAN 1869-1952
married John Joseph CORRY, children Alison, John & Anthony;
2.Frances Anthony NATHAN 1873-1875;
3.Ada Winifred NATHAN 1874;
4.Jane Francis Antoinette NATHAN
married Trayton George WICKENS, children Trayton Lyall and John Nimrod WICKENS;
5.Anthony Carroll NATHAN 1892-1966
married Ngaere Isobel BAYLEY, children Carroll, Peter & David.

Alison
QLD Australia.
yogibear@in.com.au

by peternathan on 2007-06-11 03:54:13

Hi Allie

Here is the info I have on the Nathan Family.

Henry (my great grandfather) was quite a character - married at 15 - emigrated to New Zealand - became one of the early Mayors of Wanganui. I didnt have any family info from my father (Henry George Hearn Nathan) - he wasnt much of a talker.
When I found my great grandfather's and Jane's grave at Heads Cemetry in Wanganui it was in bad shape so I had a new one made and added my brother John and my father's name to it.

My wife Pat and I now live in the Hawkes Bay - it is our 50th wedding anniversary in November.

If you ever get over this way there is always a place to stay - phone 06 87 97 292 mobile 027 544 7730 - postal address PO Box 8177 Havelock North - email peter.nathan@xtra.co.nz


Nathan Family History

In 1814 Charles Nathan married Mary Ann Collier in England.

They were quoted as being of Irish descent in the obituary of their son Henry Anthony Nathan.
The family myth has it that Charles had changed his name from Nathaniel OCarroll and was a Catholic who changed his religion to a Methodist. His employer at the time was an Isaac Nathan.

Henry Anthony Nathan was born in London on the 16th August 1816 and married Jane Hearn ( who was born also in London on the 26th June 1813 and christened at St George The Martyr , Southwark ) at St Leonards , Shoreditch , London on 1st August 1831. This church was made famous by the song The bells of St Clements. This would have made Henry Anthony aged 15 and Jane Hearn aged 18 when they married. We dont know whether or not Henry Anthony had any siblings.

Henry Anthony and Jane sailed for New Zealand in the Slains Castle arriving in Wellington on 25th January 1841. They were accompanied by their daughter Jane who was born in London on 4th February 1832 - baptised at St George The Martyr on the 27th April 1836. Henry Anthonys occupation was that of a goldsmith.

In a letter to Rev R Taylor in September 1841 , John Garner , who was appointed by Governor Hobson as Chief Constable at Wanganui , describes their journey on the schooner Surprise from Wellington to Wanganui. Henry Anthony had been made a sergeant and his contribution was described glowingly.

Henry Anthony had a very active business life in Wanganui . He became a member of the first Town Board in 1867 , Municipal Council 1878 and then Mayor of Wanganui from 17th December 1890 to 16th December 1891. Member of the 1st Wanganui Harbour Board.
His business interests included sawmilling and farming and he was a prominent freemason.
The various properties he owned in Wanganui included a farm at Goat Valley , Wicksteed Place , Glasgow Street . The Glasgow property was built in September 1881. One of the properties was destroyed by fire on the 5th December 1899.

Henry Anthony died 11th March 1893 aged 77 years and Jane Hearn died 4th April 1898 at their residence in Glasgow Street , and both are buried together in the Heads Road Cemetery , Wanganui.

Their children were :

Jane born in England on the 11th April 1832 died 1st September 1912 - married James Rapley and then George Ormsby.
Jane and James had four children - Janet , William , Thomas and Mary Ann.




Thomas Wellington born in Wellington on the 8th April 1841 died 2nd March 1909 - married Jane Harris in March 1863 , died 4th December 1871.
Thomas and Jane had two children - Jane Hearn and Mary Brown

Anthony Charles born in Wanganui on 7h April 1843 died (Palmerston North?) 19th October 1933. Possibly the first white baby born in Wanganui.
Married Sarah Ann Kells ( born in 1854 ) in March 1867. A Maori War veteran. First Mayor of Taihape June 1906 - 1912. Was a roading contractor & farmer.
Anthony Charles and Sarah Ann had four children - Alice Maud , Francis Anthony, Ada Winifred , Jane Frances and Norah Margaret


Charles William born in Wanganui on the 10th September 1844 died 18th January 1846. Drowned in the Wanganui River

Joseph Charles born in Wanganui in 1846 died 1933 - married Emma Penfold in March 1868.
Details in The Cyclopedia of New Zealand - Joseph Charles was a councillor in the Palmerston North Borough Council in 1896. Had own road contracting business for 25 years , Vice President of the Manuwatu Racing Club , Past Master of United Manuwatu Lodge.
Joseph Charles and Emma had five children - Charles Joseph & four daughters.
Charles Joseph married Emily Maria Theresa Sutton and they had seven children - Laurence , Mavis & Dulcie , Arthur & Charles , Leo & Dorothy

George born in Wanganui in 1852 died in 1925 - married Mary Connery ( born at Kilkenny Ireland in 1866 ) at Wellington on 10th November 1898.
They had three children Irene (Renee) , Winifred Hearn , Henry George Hearn ( born at Te Awaroa on the East Coast )

William Born in Wanganui in 1853 died at Palmerston North 26th January 1933 - married to Catherine Matheson from Timaru.
They had four children - Eileen , Lorna , Brian William Hearn , Vera

Mary Ann born in Wanganui in 1856 died 24th September 1925 married Thomas Bush and they had three children Charles , George and Ernest

Susan Hearn born in Wanganui in 1858 died 24th October 1930 - married Walter George Coker then Thomas Bush

Winifred born in Wanganui - married James Morey at Wanganui in 1880
They had two children Guy and Arthur.

Norah Margaret Carroll born in Wanganui in 1868 died 8th September 1899 - married William Gardiner Jnr in March 1885

by allycat on 2007-06-11 04:00:45

Wow!

by kiwicaroline on 2008-05-06 23:46:01

I just stumbled upon this site and all this great info. Alice Maude Nathan was my Great Grand Mother, her daughter Alison was my grandmother. I didnt have any info beyond her. Fantastic stuff Thank you

by allycat on 2008-05-07 04:19:16

Dear kiwicaroline, Hi. See my personal message to you.

by phop004 on 2009-01-25 10:16:09

Kia Ora koutou, I am looking for some links or information about my ancestor Hubert Nathan. I know that he was German-Jewish and that he married a Maori woman called Waiawhiawhi from Whakatohea (iwi). Any info would be much appreciated as I am just beginning in my search

by karmicnz on 2009-02-01 23:30:43

Hello all, what a lot of interesting information. Walter George Coker and Susan Hearn are my Great-great-great grandparents, they had a son Charles William Coker (if this is all correct) who was married to Sophia McQueen, they had a son Arthur Walter Rex Coker who was my grandfather, my mothers father. We didn't really know him and I have been trying to research any information about him and his family that I can. Very difficult to find anything and this is more than I could hope for in one sitting. Thanks so much. Karen

by harakeke on 2009-02-22 21:25:25

hi, i'm researching my family of Nathan, Wilson. i live in Wanganui and would like to share pics and info. regards lynn

by malbundy on 2009-05-21 21:08:57

Peter, have found info on 2 Irene jane lousie nathans!?
1 born dannevirke 1905
2 born london arrived NZ 1903
Both apperantly to george and mary(connery)
have you also found similar ??
Sincerly
mal

by stephenwickens on 2010-01-10 17:17:05

Jane Francis Antionette Nathan (granddaughter of Henry) whose father Anthony Nathan became in 1906 first Mayor of Taihape was my great grandmother. She was daughter in law of Frederick Nimrod Wickens (the picure framer) of Cuba St Wellington.
Her husband, Trayton George Wickens, a photographer, died in May 1900 from typhoid at age 26. Nettie was left a widow with two young sons, Trayton Lyall, and John Nimrod (my grandfather). After Trayton Georges death, Nettie moved to Blenheim to live with Alice Maude Corry, nee Nathan, her older sister. A year later, June 1901, Nettie married David Pirani, a newspaper publisher. David must have been a family friend, as he was a guest at Alice Maude's wedding in Blenheim in 1895. What happed to Nettie after that is a bit vague, but she died on 29 March 1906. I understand she was in South Africa, but it is unlikely David Pirani was there. She may have had another child. After her death Anthony Nathan went to South Africa to bring back his two young grandsons. If you have anything to add to my limited knowledge about what happened to Nettie, the circumstances of her journey to South Africa, of other children and of her death, I would be very interested.
Thanks
Stephen Wickens

by rip1944 on 2010-07-03 06:42:15

Stephen: David Pirani committed suicide 6th March 1913, as a result of drinking Jeyes Fluid while depressed from diabetes. He was very well-known, and several newspapers carried obits, inquest and estate information. It says that he and his wife had travelled from Napier. At inquest, someone suggested that Jeyes Fluid should be labelled "Poisonous" not "Non-poisonous", but Coroner said it was not poisonous if diluted as directed. No OSH in 1913!

Papers Past has these:

Ashburton Guardian, Volume XXXIII, Issue 8506, 8 March 1913, Page 3.
Evening Post, Volume LXXXV, Issue 56, 7 March 1913, Page 7
Inquest: Poverty Bay Herald, Volume XXXX, Issue 13003, 11 March 1913, Page 5.
Estate Stamp Duty (on over L3,000): Evening Post, Volume LXXXV, Issue 132, 5 June 1913, Page 4.

Archway Probate lists him as a Farmer, Mauku (near Glenbrook).

As a result of your information about Jane Frances Antoinette having died, I checked and found that he married again in 1908: Emily Margaret MILLAR <NZBDM Marriage 1908/6512>, (c. 1873-1934) and he died at her father's home. Kids lost father at 1 & 3, mother at 7 & 9.

Interesting question: was David with her when she died?

by rip1944 on 2010-07-03 06:48:13

Just found this photo of David Pirani, plus bio and of his father: http://www.nzetc.org/tm/scholarly/tei-Cyc01Cycl-t1-body-d4-d134-d11.html
Robert

by rip1944 on 2010-07-03 23:23:24

Peter: Anthony Carroll NATHAN was born 3 June 1891 to Anthony's second wife, named in NZBDM as Sarah Ann GRAUFIELD, but more probably GRANFIELD [sister to Ada Winifred's husband Edwin GRANFIELD???]. The first Sarah Ann HARRIS died Wanganui 1 April 1878 and is buried (3 Apr 1878) in Heads Rd (Old Wanganui). Marriage to the second Sarah Ann was <1889/1967> which extrapolates as 7th July 1889.

In his NZETC biography as Mayor of Taihape (they paid about 2 pounds to be included - so wrote their own script) he had "1 son and 1 daughter", these being the only surviving children: Alice Maude (by Sarah Ann #1, and Anthony Carroll by Sarah Ann #2.

Sarah Ann G was born abt 1866, died 1941, buried Taita Cemetery.

Can't find anything about these Granfield family origins to check names, but cannot find the name GRAUIELD anywhere at all (globally), and doubt it exists.

Carroll perhaps resurrects the historical "O'Carroll" name? This was not the only child given this name in the Nathan families.

FYI: I'm tracking the HARRIS family for my grandson's tree. Samuel Gregory HARRIS (1816) is his gggg-grandfather.

Robert

by stephenwickens on 2010-07-25 19:09:30

Hi Robert, Thanks for your updates. They are appreciated. I am still trying to track down the circumstances of Nettie Pirani (formerly Wickens) nee Nathan's trip to South Africa with her two young Wickens sons. I spent half a day in Marton looking through the old minute books for the Taihape Borough (Rangitiki District Council has all the archives from the old boroughs in Marton) hoping to find some reference to Anthony Nathan's trip to South Africa to rescue his grandsons. I stopped about the end of 1907 - perhaps I didn't persist long enough.

by rip1944 on 2011-02-04 01:11:58

Peter: According to my calculations Henry Anthony NATHAN died 3rd November 1893 (3/11/1893) not 11th March 1893 (11/3/1893).

I have checked by extrapolating the NZBDM death date; do you have a certificate, as they may be wrong.

by Karly on 2012-04-24 05:18:31

I am Trayton Lyall Wickens grandaughter. Thank you for all this information which I have saved and intend putting together for my children & grandchildren.

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