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Journal by itellya

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on 2012-01-19 09:55:42

Itellya is researching local history on the Mornington Peninsula and is willing to help family historians with information about the area between Somerville and Blairgowrie. He has extensive information about Henry Gomm of Somerville, Joseph Porta (Victoria's first bellows manufacturer) and Captain Adams of Rosebud.

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by janilye on 2012-01-19 16:58:51

For ancestry, see The Hatty Family of Dundonald website.

by janilye on 2012-01-19 17:13:06

Death of Bertram's Ford, refers to Thomas Bertram of Keilor

by itellya on 2012-01-19 19:06:59

The Hatty Family of Dundonald website is excellent! There is no indication of the author or when it was written but I feel that I might have provided some assistance via Irma Hatty, longtime lolly pop lady at Gladstone Park Primary School and my mate. For a family historian to come up with the extensive rates information and find Annette Davis's "Greenvale: Links with the Past" was great work.

Some information about things mentioned on the website might be useful.

Mr Fellow's property "Oaklands", which gave Oaklands Rd its name, was on the south east corner of that road and Craigieburn Rd (Melway 385 B9.)

Moonee Ponds did not mean the present suburb but rather anywhere near the Moonee Ponds Creek such as "Woodlands" and the Hatty land at Green Gully or Greenvale, the latter name coming from the name of John McKerchar's farm.

The first map showing this land is portion of the Yuroke parish map.Any reference to Hatty at Yuroke would probably mean the land shown on this portion rather than the present locality. The school shown right at the bottom of this map was established mainly through the efforts of John McKerchar and the present Greenvale school on Hughie Williamson's old"Dunvegan" bears the original school's low number (890?)

The birth of a Hatty child at Glenroy (seemingly before 1870; i.e. "On the same day") is puzzling. If it had been a few years later, the reason for the birth being so recorded may have been that the station master filled the role of registrar. My guess is that the parents were working there for the Kennedys.

Donald and Duncan Kennedy purchased many Hughes and Hosking grants in Will Will Rook parish in the mid 1840's. The Glenroy land was sold during the land boom of the late 1880's but Donald's descendants retained Dundonald, Kia Ora, Willowbank and Springbank until 1929 when they were sold to Attwood, the Orrs, George Daley and Edward Campbell; Campbell later bought Willowbank for his son Keith and it is now the Alanbrae Estate (Melway 6 A5)whose street names honour the pioneers.

Ellen Crowe was probably the daughter of John Crowe, grantee of land near Crowes Hill at the north west corner of Craigieburn and Mickleham Rds, not far from the Hatty property in the parish of Mickleham.

"Edina" is now occupied by the Corpus Christi Community (Melway 178 J8.)The Hatty move to this property was forced by the sale of Dundonald to Attwood, who sold the southern half (200 acres) to the Government for the remount ( now Victoria Police Attwood.) The Dundonald ruins are at Melway 178 H12.

I no longer have my notes but I have a feeling that one of the Hattys owned the 40 acres between Swain St and Providence Lane between the tenures of John Johnson and Harry Swain in about 1880. This land was lots 1-3 of the subdivision of (Crown Allotment 1, Yuroke?) by (Machell?)and adjoined Dundonald on the north.

"The Oaklands Hunt" by D.F.Cameron-Kennedy might mention the Hatty involvement with Sherwood (Melway 178 C6) and the club. Photos of the Dundonald and Cumberland houses are on display at the Woodlands historic homestead (Melway 177 K8.)

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