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Ruby & Charles Summers

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Ruby Evelyn Summers was born 1/7/1889 & Charles Summers was born 12/9/1888 & lived at 149 Otho St Inverell NSW Australia.

They had 4 children. Trying to find out information on Ruby & Charles including their parents.

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on 2011-02-27 20:00:59

Jeff2155 has been a Family Tree Circles member since Feb 2011. is researching the following names: STEHRFAMILYOFGERMANY, SUMMERS, SUMMERSRUBYEVELYNOFINVERE.

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by janilye on 2011-02-28 06:10:42

Charles Summers
Birth: 12 September 1888 - Inverell, New South Wales, Australia
Death: 9 October 1967 - Kurri Kurri, New South Wales, Australia
Spouse: Ruby Evelyn George b: 1 July 1889, Inverell d:11 November 1977, Mona Vale
Married: 1914 Inverell
Father: James Summers b:1847
Mother: Esther Rolfe
Children:
Spencer Charles Summers 1916 1980
Murray George Summers 1923 2007,Toowoomba, Qld
Beryl Evelyn Summers 1925 1999, Brisbane, Qld
Sorry, that's all I know. Jan

by Jeff2155 on 2011-02-28 17:10:00

Dear Janilye,

Again thank you ever so much for your speedy response. The next step is to find out where James Summers and Esther Rofe were born & when they were married and arrived in Australia.

Kind regards.

by janilye on 2011-03-01 00:46:46

Here's the marriage registration:- 2395/1872 SUMMERS JAMES ROLFE ESTHER INVERELL
Esther's death:-6901/1921 SUMMERS ESTHER JOSEPH SARAH A INVERELL

I don't know when Esther was born but her father was Joseph Rolfe born in Mildenhall,Suffolk in 1809 he arrived as an assisted immigrant in australia on 10 March 1853 from Feltwell, Norfolk, on the 'Trafalgar' and he died at Inverell on 27 September 1902
He arrived with wife Sarah Ann ?? and four children Edward, Maria, James, and Josiah. So I think Esther was born Here after 1853. They were Methodists so maybe you can find a church record.
Jan

by edmondsallan on 2011-03-01 00:55:45

thanks jan for assisting - deeply appreciated - Regards

by janilye on 2011-03-01 00:57:12

Children of James and Esther
13008/1875 SUMMERS CLARA JAMES ESTHER INVERELL
13787/1877 SUMMERS JAMES JAMES ESTHER INVERELL
12068/1873 SUMMERS REBECCA JAMES ESTHER INVERELL
16478/1880 SUMMERS ESTHER JAMES ESTHER INVERELL
19892/1882 SUMMERS SARAH JAMES ESTHER INVERELL
23233/1884 SUMMERS ALICE JAMES ESTHER INVERELL
24878/1886 SUMMERS JOHN JAMES ESTHER INVERELL
26170/1888 SUMMERS CHARLES JAMES ESTHER INVERELL

by janilye on 2011-03-01 01:27:27

Dear Jeff, You really need Esther's death certificate to confirm Joseph Rolfe as her father. I mean just because he died in Inverell does not prove he was her father.When Joseph and his wife came here the eldest child was 11 and the youngest only 3 so there is a strong possibility he had more children. The 1851 Census gives both he and his wife Sarah Ann both born at Feltwell and the children were born at Hilgay.
There was a William and Sarah Rolph who lived up around Wellingrove/Maitland they had a daughter Esther so that may be worth looking at if Joseph doesn't pan out.
If I come across anything else I'll let you know, Jan

by janilye on 2011-03-01 01:31:24

Looks like there were more children
13750/1860 ROLFE ALICE R JOSEPH SARAH A WOLLOMBI
I'll check all records around Wollombi for you. Jan

by janilye on 2011-03-01 02:24:48

Death of Sarah Ann Rolfe:
14140/1902 ROLFE SARAH A WILLIAM ELIZABETH INVERELL

by janilye on 2011-03-04 00:11:41

This MIGHT be your James! James Summers born in Parramatta NSW in 1846 the son of James Summers and Jane, nee Cullen and died in 1919 at Glen Innes. Father James Summers b:1800, London was married to Jane Cullen at St.John's Parramatta in 1845. Jane Cullen arrived FREE on the 'William Hughes' and husband James arrived as a convict sentenced to life on the 'Glory. My sources, 'Convicts applications to marry 1845 and NSW BD&M. What bothers me about this reference is the place of death of James jnr. I did find another death of a James Summers at Inverell in 1880 Parents James and Elizabeth. I could not find any marriage registered in NSW between these two. Ball's in your court now Jeff. Regards, Jan

by austex on 2013-08-27 10:17:47

Hi Jeff,
I noticed your postings several years ago. I am also researching James Summers/Jane Cullen/Elizabeth Hubbard. I would be interested in sharing information.
Regards
Marci Delaney

What confuses me is that family information is that Jane Cullen was James Summers/Somers mother, but on page 2 of Debretts early research for another member of the family were concentrating on finding a son, James Charles Somers/Summers, of James Summers and Elizabeth Hubbard. page 1 is missing, so I don't know how that occurred.

BDM ENgland
Surname Given Name District Volume Page
Births Mar 1847
Summers James Bromyard 26 177

Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists: V1846110331A
Summers, James; Bn 1846; father James; mother Jane; Destination: Central Sydney (CB)

I think it is more likely that James died in Inverell, but whether that is James Sr or James Jr, I don't know. "Dad's grandfather on his mother's side (Summers) had a property outside Inverell called Eastnor and Desleigh and I took Dad down there a year or so before his death. We found the property and the remains of the original home."

by Megsy1955 on 2013-11-20 00:28:49

Hi Marci,
I note your message dated 27/8/2013 Re: James Summers.
I am researching the family - (more the Rolfe side) - I do have the following on James and Esther Summers and family.

Esther Rolfe (5th Child of Edward Rolfe(Born 15/8/1841 England - Died 29/11/1917 aged 76 yrs buried Inverell Methodist Cemetery) and Elizabeth (Nee Andrews) (Born about 1847 England - Died 6/5/1914 aged 67 yrs buried Inverell Methodist Cemetery)

About Esther Rolfe:
Born 20/3/1853 Inverell District - Died 15/6/1921 aged 71 yrs buried Inverell Church of England Cemetery)
Married: In 1872 Inverell District NSW
TO: James SUMMERS (Born 1846 Parramatta NSW - Died Feb 1919 Glen Innes) The son of James Summers (B.1800 London) & Jane Cullen who were married at St Johns Parramatta in 1845)
CHILDREN:
1.Clara SUMMERS (Born 1875 Inverell) Married 1900 Inverell to Stephen J DELANEY (B.1876)
Children: 1.James J Delaney (B.1901 Armidale)
2.Stephen J Delaney (B.1904 Inverell)
3.Edward J Delaney (B.1909 Taree)
2.James SUMMERS (Born 1877 Inverell Died 9/2/1956 aged 78 yrs buried Inverell CofE Cemetery)
3.Rebecca SUMMERS (Born 1873 Inverell Died 1884 Inverell)
4.Esther SUMMERS (Born 1880 Inverell)
5.Sarah SUMMERS (Born 1882 Inverell Died 4/4/1908 aged 25 yrs buried Inverell CofE Cemetery) Married 1907 Inverell (bdm: 1564/1907) to Cornelius B W STARLING (Cab Driver in 1908)
6.Alice SUMMERS (Born 1884 Inverell Died 1893 Inverell)
7.John SUMMERS (Born 1886 Inverell Died 19/10/1956 aged 70 yrs buried Inverell CofE Cemetery)
8.Charles SUMMERS (B.12/9/1888 Inverell D.9/10/1967 Kurri Kurri NSW) (M) in 22/12/1914 at Inverell To Ruby Evelyn GEORGE (B.1/7/1889 Inverell D.11/11/1977 Mona Vale)
Children of Charles & Ruby Summers:
1.Spencer Charles Summers (Born 1916 Inverell Died 1980 in NSW (others say he died Merbein, Vic) Married 1942 Newcastle to Hilda Una Gwendoline HULL
2.Murray George Summers (B.20/8/1923 Inverell Died 10/5/2007,Toowoomba, Qld) (WW2 Record RAAF 69116 Next of Kin: Lillian Summers ???wife???) Lillian Elsie Summers (Died 15/6/2007 buried Toowoomba Qld)
Children: 1.Jeanette married Russell Hoy
2.Christine - married ? Skaines
3.Sandra married Kevin Seery
3.Beryl Evelyn Summers (Born 1925 Inverell 1999, Brisbane, Qld)

I have more on the Rolfe side of the family - I have some cemetery books for Inverell district (that is where I obtained the full death details above).

Can you fill in any further details in the above? some info (Re: Delaney children obtained from NSW bdm).

I found this obituary or Death Notice for James Summers (thus the death in Glen Innes)
The Voice of the North Friday 7 Feb 1919 INVERFLL IDENTITY PASSES.
Mr. James Summers, an old identity of the Inverell district passed away at the residence of his daughter, Mrs. S. J. Delaney, Glen Innes. Deceased, who was 72 years' of age, was a native of Parramatta. He went to Inverell district 50 years ago, and resided there until 12 months ago, when he came to spend his remaining days with his daughter. He engaged in farming and orchard pursuits, and was a consistent and successful competitor at the Inverell shows, where he secured many prizes for draught stock and fruit. He leaves a widow and grown-up family.

(I have been unable to find his grave atm).
My direct email if you prefer is: megsy1955@yahoo.com.au

Regards Meg.

by Jeff2155 on 2013-11-20 04:03:28

Dear Meg & also Janilye,

Many, many thanks, that is fantastic information and I'm in awe of your skills in finding this history. I would appreciate further information if you can obtain it.

With best wishes, Geoff.

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