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Samuel Pelling,1883,( Father to Charlotte Pelling 1910-1990) -Who were Samuel Pelling's Parents and Grandparents ?

Query by AlisonParrack

Looking at my rather patchy family tree, i realize that Samuel Pelling, born 1883 has not yet got parents as such, and that his family tree is non existent. Does anyone know who they were, his daughter Charlotte Pelling was born in Woking, Surrey, England in 1910.Her mother was called Charlotte ( ne Whitwick born 1888) and her Grandfather was Mathew Whitwick, but I don't know what his wife was called? Can anyone help ?

Thank you to all who have helped me so far.

Its a real joy to see my forebears family tree develop, its become my preoccupation and my long suffering family probably think i am having a mid life crisis as all i seem to keep babbling about at random moments , is the development and discovery of the family tree so far.

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by noggin on 2013-10-12 04:16:55

Is this your family ?

Surrey, England, Baptisms, 1813-1912
Name: Charlotte Mary Pelling
Birth Date: 10 Jul 1911
Baptism Date: 27 Aug 1911
Archive Provided Parish: Shamley Green, Christ Church
Parish as it Appears: Shamley Green
Father: Samuel Pelling
Mother: Charlotte May Pelling
Reference Number: SHAM/1/1

by noggin on 2013-10-12 04:19:50

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Charlotte M Pelling
Mother's Maiden Name: Whitwick
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1911
Registration District: Hambledon
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 357

by noggin on 2013-10-12 04:30:43

From this marriage Samuel's father was Levi

Surrey, England, Marriages, 1754-1937
Name: Samuel Pelling (at time of marriage living in Cranleigh)
Age: 27
Birth Year: abt 1884
Marriage Date: 7 Jan 1911
Archive Provided Parish: Shamley Green, Christ Church
Parish as it Appears: Shamley Green
Spouse: Charlotte May Whitwick (at time of marriage living in Shamley Green)
Spouse Age: 23
Father: Levi Pelling (occ labourer)
Spouse Father: Alfred Whitwick (occ labourer)
Reference Number: SHAM/2/1

Witnesses; Ernest Jenner & Ellen Whitwick

by noggin on 2013-10-12 04:39:23

1911 England Census
Name: Samuel Pelling
Age in 1911: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Cranleigh, Surrey, England
Street Address: Stroud Common, Shamley Green, Guildford
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 1
Estimated Marriage Year: 1910
Occupation: Labourer of Bricklayer

Samuel Pelling 28
Charlotte Pelling 23
Earnest Jenner 24 (witness to marriage)
..............................................................

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Samuel Pelling
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1883
Registration District: Hambledon
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 150
.........................................................

Surrey, England, Baptisms, 1813-1912
Name: Samuel Pelling
Baptism Date: 5 May 1883
Archive Provided Parish: Cranleigh, St Nicholas
Parish as it Appears: Cranleigh
Father: Levi Pelling
Mother: Mary Pelling
Reference Number: CRA/3/2
...........................................................

1891 England Census
Name: Samuel Pelling
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Levi Pelling
Mother's Name: Mary Pelling
Gender: Male
Where born: Cranleigh, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Cranleigh
Ecclesiastical parish: Cranleigh
Town: Cranleigh
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Levi Pelling 39
Mary Pelling 39
James Pelling 13
Levi Pelling 12
Mary A Pelling 10
Samuel Pelling 8
Ralph Pelling 6/12
........................................................

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Samuel Pelling
Birth Date: abt 1883
Date of Registration: Jun 1956
Age at Death: 73
Registration District: Surrey North Western
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 5g
Page: 588

by noggin on 2013-10-12 05:09:13

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Levi Pelling
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1852
Registration District: Petworth
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 246
...................................................................

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Levi Pelling
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1875
Registration District: Petworth
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 599
Records on Page:
Spouses Name: Mary Mariner
..................................................................

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Levi Pelling
Name: Levi Pelling
Birth Date: abt 1853
Date of Registration: Mar 1930
Age at Death: 77
Registration District: Hambledon
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 267
.......................................................................
Levi's parent look like James and Sarah


1861 England Census about Levy Pelling
Name: Levy Pelling
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Pelling
Mother's Name: Sarah Pelling
Gender: Male
Where born: Rudgwick, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Slinfold
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

James Pelling 39
Sarah Pelling 32
Mark Pelling 12
Unice Pelling 10
Levy Pelling 9
....................................................................


1881 England Census about Mary Pelling
Name: Mary Pelling [Mary Humphrey]
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: Levi Pelling
Father: Richard Humphrey
Gender: Female
Where born: Loxwood, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Cranleigh
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address: Smithwood Common
Marital Status: Married

Levi Pelling 29
Mary Pelling 29
James Pelling 3
Levi Pelling 2
Mary Ann Pelling 1 mon
Richard Humphrey 77 father in law.

The marriage reg states Mary's surname Mariner. This could mean one of to things:
a) she was previously married
b) her mother remarried

by noggin on 2013-10-12 05:23:27

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Charlotte May Whitwick
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1888
Registration District: Hambledon
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 139
.......................................................

Surrey, England, Baptisms, 1813-1912
Name: Charlotte May Whitwick
Baptism Date: 6 May 1888
Archive Provided Parish: Cranleigh, St Nicholas
Parish as it Appears: Cranleigh
Father: Alfred James Whitwick
Mother: Fanny Whitwick
Reference Number: CRA/3/2
............................................................

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Alfred Whitwick
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1882
Registration District: Reigate
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 240
Spouses Name: Fanny Luxford
................................................................

1891 England Census
Name: Charlotte Wentwick [Charlotte Whitwick]
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Alfred Wentwick
Mother's Name: Fanny Wentwick
Gender: Female
Where born: Cranleigh, Surrey, England

Alfred Wentwick 31
Fanny Wentwick 34
William Wentwick 7
Charlotte Wentwick 3
Eliza Wentwick 1
..........................................................................
From this census it would appear Alfred's parents are Thomas & Sarah Whitwick

1861 England Census
Name: Alfred James Whitewick [Alfred James Whitwick]
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Whitewick
Mother's Name: Sarah Whitewick
Gender: Male
Where born: Westbourne, Sussex, England

Thomas Whitewick 35
Sarah Whitewick 34
Sarah Anne Whitewick 11
Thomas George Whitewick 8
David Henry Whitewick 5
Arthur William Whitewick 3
Alfred James Whitewick 1

by AlisonParrack on 2013-10-12 05:24:50

Thank you so very very much, Yes, Yes, Yes, this is evidently my family, and I thank you again for your kind help. I can see that charting family trees is not something you can complete in a few days, ( well, unless you don't do anything else including go to the bathroom, for a whole month!).
I will be able to add this to the tree and fill in the blanks. YOu are very helpful. THe area's match with the existing family information so far, and the dates correlate too, so, and of course, the family name continues with extra siblings that I didn't know about in earlier sourcing. Thank you again Noggin.

The only issue i had was that I had one source give Mathew Whitwick as Spouse father, but this record gives Alfred... i wonder if he was an Alfred Mathew or a Mathew Alfred... who knows.. but nowadays we have to be specific and give actual names, not " known as" names on our records.. perhaps in those days it was possible to give your name / or the vicar was a bit wolley, according to the name people used , rather than the baptised/christened name ? Oh, of course, i should say registered name... but, in those days... was it also done at a registry office, or did the church record all birth, deaths and marriages and no where else ?

Okay, i am very grateful and my mind is rambling again for this... isn't it ? My apologies.

THank you for all this valuable source and enabling me to add it to the family tree.

Alison Parrack

by AlisonParrack on 2013-10-12 05:47:59

Thank you for the extra information you have just shared, i will have to study this later, it is quite a lot, and I am very glad of it, but, this morning already i have spent the past two hours at it ,where does time go.. isn't this geneaology compulsive viewing ? I just lose myself in it and really don't notice the time pass. Ironic.. the Past moves further backwards, getting older every second... yet, the people once passed over don't get any older... or something like that. I have to remind myself to take a break, and remind myself that my relatives will still be passed over tomorrow as they are today.. that i can go back to this and in another sense they will still be there for me to discover!!

Okay, you probably think i have lost the plot now, but with the help of kind people i am actually filling in the gaps on the map!

Alison Parrack

by noggin on 2013-10-12 06:46:07

Regards to BMD records in the UK;

From 1837 it was law that all BMDs should be registered at the nearst register office.
But it might also still appear in the parish record (good cross check if it appears in both)

Prior to this it was done in the parish church records as you say only as good as the vicar who recorded it. Sometimes you get a whole family of children christened at the same time from 1 -18yrs usually when the eldest child is about to marry.

In 1841 the census started, it was ok but somwtimes births were rounded up or down to the nearest 5yrs. The census also did not show family relationships or county of birth, just yes born in county or no born out of county.

I cannot remember what year it became law to include middle names but they where not always registered.

You might find these two sites useful:

https://familysearch.org/search (parish Records) free

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/index.htm
( this site lets you search by parish church. You can search by full name ie Adam Kitchin or just put in the surname Kitchin and pick up whole families.)

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