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THERE WOULD BE NO SORRENTO WITHOUT Sidney Smith CRISPO of "Eastbourne" Rosebud West, Victoria Australia.

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Surnames: BLAIR COPPIN CRISPO DUFFY GRANT WILLIAMS
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on 2011-08-05 02:21:03

Itellya is researching local history on the Mornington Peninsula and is willing to help family historians with information about the area between Somerville and Blairgowrie. He has extensive information about Henry Gomm of Somerville, Joseph Porta (Victoria's first bellows manufacturer) and Captain Adams of Rosebud.

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by itellya on 2011-08-14 08:09:45

There is extensive information about S.S.Crispo on trove. Blairgowrie was not originally called Canterbury.The name that Crispo first used was Manners-Sutton, in honour of Victoria's Governor from 1866 until 1873. His Excellency became the 3rd Viscount Canterbury in 1869 and Sidney applied the new name sometime after 1870. The first owners of land in his Canterbury (listed in wikipedia)are recorded in the ratebook of 1878.Sidney claimed to have suggested the creation of Sorrento Village and its success led to his subdivision gaining popularity.He also said that he suggested to Coppin that he run a steamer to Sorrento so that fares could be reduced from the 20 shillings charged on The Challenge.

by itellya on 2011-11-05 13:59:38

Sidney may have arrived in Victoria in 1855. This assumption is based on another assumption that Edward Williams was his best friend.It was in 1855 that Edward Williams arrived on a vessel that was to conduct a survey of Port Phillip Bay. This would have been the start of the Victorian Coastal Survey,in which Sidney was the "writer" until it was wound up in 1878.
Edward was one of the crew who visited the Burrells at Arthur's Seat when the ship arrived and there met a servant, Mary Campbell, who had come out three years earlier with the family of Robert Cairns, a Boneo pioneer.Edward married Mary and bought Eastbourne (Village Glen site)from Sidney shortly before the latter's death in 1899 (at Edward Williams' Eastbourne.)

by itellya on 2012-02-02 10:07:51

by 888shelley on 2012-02-13 00:28:03

William Pascoe Crook was on the 'Duff' and set up the first European settlement at Sullivan Bay.Found this info and docs on tribalpages.com

by itellya on 2013-02-17 07:00:02

I believe I have found something written by Sidney Smith Crispo. If you enter KING ARTHUR OF AUSTRALIA on trove, the article, published in 1856 and reproduced in other colonies into the next year will be at the top of the list. It was referred to as being amusing; so was Sidney's suggestion that Eastbourne at Rosebud West become the national capital, named Federanium. The writer has an intimate knowledge of Canada and Australia and uses the political course of Canada as an example of what Australia should do, just as Sidney did with his song AMALGAMATE THE COLONIES.

The article shows the sort of "50 years ahead of his time" ("weird" to his detractors) thinking that characterised Sidney. If Sidney did write the article,it would be evidence that he did arrive in Port Phillip Bay from Sydney on a survey ship that was to chart the bay, with his friend, Edward Williams, in 1855.

If Sidney did write this fanciful piece,why would he not sign it S.S.Crispo? He was a public servant employed by the colony of Victoria and one man who would have been offended was the Governor. Public servants are not usually encouraged to criticise the Government even today, and the scathing criticism of Governors would have been taken as a personal slight.

by gpearce on 2013-09-21 01:09:23

On the 3rd of May 1860, Sir Henry Barkly, the Governor of Victoria recommended to the Legislative Assembly that the Government enter into an agreement with the Imperial Government for the Marine Survey of the Victorian Coast, under the direction of the British Admiralty, and for the colony to share in half of the cost of the survey. The resolution was agreed to on the 11th of May 1860, and the Admiralty appointed Commander Henry Cox R.N., to take charge of the Victorian survey.

The widely travelled and highly experienced Commander Cox had immediately recognised there would be problems in trying to utilize local manpower and could ill afford the time required to train them for his requirements, so he opted to bring his assistants with him. The survey was originally estimated to take approximately 6 years to complete (it actually took 20 years)and therefore many of the team members elected to bring their families with them. The commander brought his wife and two daughters as well as his brother in-law, Sydney Crispo, who was a petty officer in the Royal Navy.

The survey team embarked in the ship Owen Glendower at Plymouth on the 10th of September 1860 and arrived safely in Melbourne three months later in December 1860. Right from the very start the survey was plagued with a number of problems, which forced a number of delays in the prosecution of the survey.

The inshore survey work was executed primarily from small boats and the cutter Loelia, whereas the deeper parts were sounded using the steamships Victoria and Pharos. Unfortunately Cox, could only use the larger vessels on occasions when they were not committed to other duties in the Colony. This severely hampered his operation and was to cause him a considerable amount of angst throughout the time he was in charge of the survey. Furthermore his relationship with the Surveyor General and other Government officials began to deteriorate. To further inflame an already tenuous situation, Cox decide to move operations eastward to Western Port, despite the perceived need to extend the survey to the west, he also threatened to lay-up the Loelia after Western Port, because she was totally inadequate for surveying work in Bass Strait.

Probably in an effort to contain the deepening rift that was occurring between Cox and the Victorian Government, an order in council was issued by the Admiralty which forced the early retirement of the commander in May 1866.

In July 1866 Cox returned to England with his family, but most of the other team members elected to stay on and continue with the survey under the guidance of Commander Wilkinson R.N., who was Cox's replacement. Sydney Crispo, remained with the Victorian Coastal Survey team until it reached conclusion in 1879, under the command of Staff Commander Henry Stanley R.N. Sydney Crispo (spelt with a "y" is the 1860 Owen Glendower passenger list) not known to have ever returned to his native England and died a bachelor at Rosebud West, Victoria in 1899 at the age of 71 years.

by itellya on 2013-09-24 11:01:45

Fantastic, gpearce! I hadn't come across the relationship of Cox to Crispo. This disproves my theory that Crispo had arrived on the same survey ship as Edward Williams in 1855.

by gpearce on 2013-09-25 05:57:47

Glad to be of assistance as your information regarding Sidney Crispo was of great use to me.

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