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Sophia Isabella Budd

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Can any one give information on Sophia Isabella Budd(b.1863or65)who married George Hartopp Eliot Warburton?
George had a brother Piers and was the son of Bartholomew Warburton (I think)

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by noggin on 2012-10-29 05:01:40
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by Flower10 on 2012-10-29 18:10:03

No only UK. After Bartholomew died (He was an well known Irish writer and traveller and was on the steamer 'Amazon' when it caught fire and sank.) His wife remarried. George and Sophia moved to Palmerston North, New Zealand. As did Piers briefly but he returned to England. They seem to have set the social scene in Palmerston North and are well documented as attending this and hosting that! He was sometimes known as Eliot and she seems to be called Isobel. They had 5 children:
Charlotte Eliot (writer unmarried)
Piers Acton (killed WW1)
Edward Darian
Maude Agnes (Dalgety)
Eva May (Abraham)
I found a Sophia Isabella Budd b.1863 in Stoke, Damerel, Devon.
Wondering if this could be her? I ideally need marriage records so I can tie her to a family.

by asheppard on 2012-10-29 22:24:31

I found this on the New Zealand BMD under Marriages

1882/1488 Sophia Isabella Budd George Hartopp Eliot Warburton


and it looks like George also returned to England I found this 1901 Census

1901 England Census about Geo H E Warburton
Name: Geo H E Warburton
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Isabel Warburton
Gender: Male
Where born: Lymmath, Devon, England

Civil parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 41 Edith Road, Fulham

Occupation: Barrister - Retired

Registration district: Fulham
Sub-registration district: North East Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 10
Piece: 63
Folio: 84
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Geo H E Warburton 52 born Lymmith Devon
Isabel Warburton 36 born Stoke, Devon
Charlotte E Warburton 18 born New Zealand
Jesse A E Warburton 16 "
Maud A Warburton 5 "
Mary E Warburton 3 "
Ellen M McKenzie 29 Servant
Alice Helly 22 Servant

and it looks like he was back in New Zealand by 1911

New Zealand, Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981 about George Hartopp Eliot Warburton
Name: George Hartopp Eliot Warburton
Electoral Year: 1911
District: Palmerston
Region or Province: Manawatu-Wanganui

by asheppard on 2012-10-29 22:39:44

1901 Census

Jessie A E Warburton 16 should read Piers A E Warburton

Births from New Zealand BMD

1883/6794 Warburton Charlotte Eliot Sophia Isabella George Hastopp Eliot
1885/6194 Warburton Piers Acton Eliote Sophia Isabella George Harstopp Eliot
1887/323 Warburton Edward Darien Sophia Isabella George Hartopp Eliot
1896/3079 Warburton Maud Agnes Sophia Isabella George Hartopp Eliot
1898/15226 Warburton Mary Eva Sophia Isabella George Hartopp Eliot

Deaths from NZ BMD

1922/8981 Warburton George Hartopp Eliot 74Y
1928/10554 Warburton Sophia Isabella 63Y
1961/38942 Warburton Charlotte Eliot 78Y

by Flower10 on 2012-10-30 01:58:27

Interesting I hadn't realised they married in New Zealand, Thank you for all your hard work, Now to find some parents for her!

by ngairedith on 2012-10-30 05:48:55

PHOTO of Isabel Warburton (note the spelling at bottom of photo) taken in 1896
... Mrs Eliot Warburton (c1865-1928), nee Sophia Isabella Budd, wife of Eliot Warburton, the first Palmerston North Borough solicitor, co-founder of the Palmerston North Lawn Tennis Club and said to be the first family to install a telephone in Palmerston North. They lived in Main Street and had a family of five children

the Biography of Charlotte Eliot Warburton (1883-1961), Community leader, Matron, states:
... Charlotte Eliot Warburton was born in Palmerston North on 14 March 1883, the eldest of five children of English parents George Hartopp Eliot Warburton, a solicitor, and his wife, Sophia Isabella Budd. The Warburtons joined in the busy social life of the small town, and Charlotte later wrote of picnics, tennis, horse-racing, polo tournaments and riding. There were musical evenings, parties and balls, visits to the theatre and services at All Saints Church.

... In her seventies Charlotte Warburton wrote two books. Changing days and changing ways (1954) is an account of social life in Palmerston North in the late 1800s, and is still widely used by local historians. Part one was written from letters and notes left by her uncle, Piers Warburton, and
part two is based on her mothers and her own early memories

- so, these 2 books would be well worth obtaining if possible, as, (where I have highlighted), part 2 is based on her mother's (Sophia) memories !! and one would assume she will talk of HER parents

you may possibly be able to view the book in your local library, make enquiries
OR ... a copy was recently up for sale on trade me You could write and ask them if they sold it or maybe ask on that site if anyone else has a copy the would like to sell

by ngairedith on 2012-10-30 06:13:20

the Community Archive (National Register of Archives and Manuscripts) holds a collection of papers of George Hartopp Eliot Warburton held by the Ian Matheson City Archives, Palmerston North City Council

Description 1 File Box, 1877 - 1987
Papers of George Hartopp Eliot WARBURTON, a Palmerston North solicitor, his wife Sophia Isabella WARBURTON, daughter Maud (Mrs C F DALGETY) and his brother Piers Eliot WARBURTON.

George Hartopp Eliot WARBURTON: business diary 1877; newspaper clippings (indexed);correspondence. 1870-1903.

Sophie Isabella (Bell) WARBURTON: correspondence to Sophie from her sister Mary Louise (Polly) WALDEGRAVE and her brother in law Charles Edward WALDEGRAVE; Household ledger, listing accounts, dates of correspondence; newspaper clippings. 1898-1902.

Maud Agnes DALGETY: notes written by Ian MATHESON based on conversations with Maud, a sister of G H E WARBURTON,1968-1985; Interview on cassette tape, with Maud Dalgety, 1987; Craven School hat badge, c.1903-1912.

Piers Eliot WARBURTON: scrapbook of newspaper clippings; Manawatu Acclimatisation Society; Manawatu Dramatic Club; correspondence; miscellaneous papers. 1877-1888

by ngairedith on 2012-10-30 06:35:32

Mary Louisa 'Polly' BUDD (1861-1918) married on 18 January 1882 to:
- Charles Edward WALDEGRAVE (1855-1920)

Sophia Isabella 'Bell' BUDD (1865-1928) married on 9 May 1882 to:
- George Hartopp Eliot WARBURTON (1848-1922)

by ngairedith on 2012-10-30 06:49:00

another sister:
Charlotte Fredericka BUDD (1854-1936) married at Outram, 12 September 1885 to:
- James Edward FULTON (1854-1928) Surveyor, Civil Engineer

by Flower10 on 2012-10-30 22:23:08

Thank you Ngaiedith, It seems the BUDD family must have been living in NZ already. You have given me some work to do. There must be some wedding information in social pages some where. The Warburton family is really interesting and some branches go back a long way.

by ngairedith on 2012-10-31 04:47:27

the Budd girls arrived with their mother into Wellington on Xmas Day 1880 on the Northumberland

by Flower10 on 2012-10-31 05:33:55

Really! I wonder why? Was father here or did they have relatives? Interesting, It would be a brave thing to do for a woman on her own.

by Flower10 on 2012-10-31 06:06:46

Ahh! Papers Past James Edward Fulton married the daughter of the late Major Fredrick Edward Budd! So father was no longer living by 1885

by ngairedith on 2012-10-31 06:28:02

a brother:
William Hopewell Budd (1862-1948) married Elizabeth Anne GRITTON 1902 in London.
William's father was Frederick Edward Budd (deceased), Major R.M.L.I
Elizabeth's father was Fermor Bonnycastle Gritton (deceased) Major R.M.L.I

... Elizabeth died 4 Dec 1905

William next married Eva Bentley VERCHILD (1890-1938) in Bristol in 1907
- they moved to Australia and then New Zealand & had a daughter
- Eva left him

William next married Amy Constance RAYMOND (1875-1966) in 1914 & had a son

William lived in Auckland, Timaru, Pahiatua, Wellington & died 9 June 1948 at Green Lane Hospital, Auckland

by ngairedith on 2012-10-31 06:35:25

from the LONDON GAZETTE, 24 January 1865
... Captain Frederick Edward Budd, retired full-pay, Royal Marines, to have the honorary rank of Major, under the provisions of the Order in Council of 13th November 1858

by ngairedith on 2012-10-31 06:44:59

Frederick Edward Budd served in the TAIPING REBELLION
... On August 18th, 1860, the Ti-ping army, or rather, part of it, arrived before Shanghai, and drove in the Tartar outposts, subsequently advancing to the walls. They were met with shot, shell, and musketry from the European garrison of the settlement, and especially from Royal Marines, and Indian troops, Lieutenant John William Waller O'Grady, R.M., being particularly active, and Captain Frederick Edward Budd, R.M., keeping up a very hot fire from another position. It is said that, during the whole time, the rebels did not reply. At any rate, about 300 of them fell, while there was not a single casualty on the part of the Europeans. When the Ti-pings had retired, parties were sent out to burn down such houses in the suburbs as might afford cover to the rebels. On Sunday, August 19th, the French burnt more houses, and, in the afternoon, the gunboats Kestrel, Lieutenant Henry Huxham, and Hongkong, together with Lieutenant O'Grady's Marines, re-opened fire on any rebels who could be seen. It is said that again the Ti-pings did not return a shot. It is certain, however, that, on the 20th they advanced in greater strength than before, determined, perhaps, to endeavour to avenge their comrades slaughtered, as they conceived it, in bad faith. Once more they were driven back; and during the following night, the Pioneer, 6, screw, Commander Hugh Arthur Reilly, added to their discomfiture by steaming up the river and dropping shells into their camp... more at link

by DebNZ on 2012-11-06 19:09:43

Sophie's birth:

Jun 1863 - Stoke Damerel, Devon

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