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Sullivan, Victoria, Australia

Journal by waddles

Hi,
Bev here, I am trying to find out information on Edwin Sullivan who married Mary Jane Sanders in 1914.
They are my maternal grandparents. Steve74 was kind enough to let me know that Mary's parents were Robert Sanders and Elizabeth Low. I have my grandfather's death certificate that tells me he died on 9/12/1949 and was buried at Brighton cemetry on 12/12/1949.

It may seem penny pinching but I don't want to have to pay for information on sites like ancestory.com. I have been lucky enough to have gotten my paternal family tree going back to the late 1500's in England.

I have had no luck with the Sullivan side however.

Hoping someone can help with further details.

Thanks,

Waddles

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by Morgan2409 on 2014-01-10 22:32:17

This looks like the marriage of Edwin's parents
John Sullivan & Mary Phillips 1872, Victoria reg#257

Children of John Sullivan & Mary Phillips
Athur Herbert Sullivan born 1879 Ballarat East Victoria reg#287
Clarice Sullivan born 1883 Ballarat East Victoria reg#13979
Albert Weare Sullivan born 1885 Dunb Victoria reg#17135
Edwin Sullivan born 1885 Dunb Victoria reg#17135

by Morgan2409 on 2014-01-10 23:45:04

Possible Death of Robert Sanders

Rbt Sanders
Death Place: Katandra, Victoria
Father Rbt Sanders
Mother: Rbt Bubean
Estimated Birth Year 1849
Reg#6356

SANDERS. On the 31st May, at his late residence, Willow Bank, Marungi, Robert, the dearly beloved husband of Elizabeth Ann Sanders, age 59 years. Deeply mourned.
P.13 Argus 6th June 1908

by Morgan2409 on 2014-01-11 00:08:17

Marriage of Robert Sanders and Elizabeth Ann Lowe
1882 Victoria reg#449

by Morgan2409 on 2014-01-11 00:43:47

Children of Robert Sanders and Elizabeth Ann Lowe

Matthew Robert Sanders b.1882 Victoria reg#180006

William James Sanders b.1885 Nine Mile Creek, Victoria reg#12331

Ernest John Sandra b.1890 Nine Mile Creek Victoria reg#25952

Laura Ann Sanders b.1893 Marungi Victoria reg#14663

Mary jane Sanders b.1888 Marungi victoria reg#13153

Adeline Grace Sanders b.Marungi victoria reg#29579

DEATHS OF CHILDREN

Wm Jas Sanders died 1889 Marungi, aged 4 years reg#12814
Ernt. Jno. Sanders died 1891 Victoria ref#2500
Laura Haigh died 1969 Bendigo Victoria reg#18507
Matthew robt sanders died 1940 Shepparton Victoria reg#18125

by Morgan2409 on 2014-01-11 01:17:12

SANDERS. -On the 11th July, at the residence ofher daughter (Mrs. F. Ternes), 33 Imperial avenue, Caulfield, Elizabeth Ann, widow of the late Robert Sanders (late ot Marunga), and loving mother of Matthew, Jane, Laura, Ada, Ernest (deceased), and William (deceased), in her 71st year.
13th July 1928, The Argus

Elizabeth Ann Sanders is buried in Old Cheltenham Cemetery

Elizabeth Ann Sanders
Death Place Caulfield, Victoria
Age 70 years
Father Jno Lowe
Mother Mary Crawshaw
Registration Year 1928
Reg# 9404
Estimated Birth Year 1858

by Morgan2409 on 2014-01-11 01:51:05

Possible Siblings of Elizabeth Ann Lowe worth having a look at
Thos Lowe died Northcote Vic 1919, aged 77 years reg#3377
Mary Brown died Elsternwick Victoria 1949, aged 89 years reg#7403

If you can get a few of the early certificates it may give you more clues to these families. if you have any more details it would be a great help

by Morgan2409 on 2014-01-11 05:29:07

According to the Will of Robert Sanders, Farmer of Murungi Victoria died 31st May 1908,
Widow Elizabeth Ann Sanders and his children Matthew Robert Sanders, Mary Jane Sanders, Laura Ann Sanders and Adeline Grace Sanders are his only surviving next of kin.

His land consisted of Allotments 65 & 68 in the Parish of Katandra and county of Marungi, particullary described in Crown grant entered in the Register Book volume 2533 Folio 50 6486 and containg 320 acres

Weatherboard dwelling of 5 rooms and a brick kitchen
106 acres of growing wheat and 14 acres of growing oats

Stock is in poor condition owing to the recent drought and scarcity of food

by Morgan2409 on 2014-01-11 06:15:29

Correction to birth of Edwin Sullivan
Born 1885 Dunb. Victoria ref#17134
*Dunb.is Dunbulbalane, Victoria

Brother Albert Wearne Sullivan
died 1971 Malvern Victoria reg#17116
(enlisted First World War)

by waddles on 2014-01-11 06:40:56

Morgan2409,

Thanks for all the information about my grandparents. I had no idea if they were born in Australia or overseas. Mary Jane Sullivan died in 1964, I was 13. I thought Uncle Bert (Albert) died earlier than 1971 as I remember going to his funeral with my father and I was only a teenager.

I am pleased to have this information to add to the other side of the family tree.


Thanks

by Morgan2409 on 2014-01-11 06:49:04

I think this is the death of Edwin Sullivans mother
Mary Sullivan
Death Place Numurkah, Victoria
Age 71 years
Father John Phillips
Mother Mary Grose Wearne
Registration Year 1920
reg#10700
Estimated Birth year 1851

by Morgan2409 on 2014-01-11 06:57:04

Do you know if Edwin Sullivan had a brother named Horace Rundel Phillips Sullivan died Cheltenham, victoria 1953.
If so the above is their mother

by tonkin on 2014-01-11 07:27:41

John and Mary had 8 children.

Ada Phillips SULLIVAN.
Born: 1873 Sandhurst, (Bendigo) Victoria.

Horace Rundle Phillips SULLIVAN.
Born: 1874 Sandhurst, (Bendigo) Victoria.

Lucy Mary SULLIVAN.
Born: 1877 Sandhurst, (Bendigo) Victoria.

Arthur Herbert SULLIVAN.
Born: 1879 Ballarat, Victoria.

Charles Alfred SULLIVAN.
Born: 1879 Ballarat, Victoria.

Clarice SULLIVAN.
Born: 1883 Ballarat, Victoria.

Edwin SULLIVAN. *
Born: 1885 Dunbulbalane, Victoria.

Albert SULLIVAN. *
Born: 1885 Dunbulbalane, Victoria.

* Edwin and Albert were twins.

by waddles on 2014-01-11 07:31:07

No unfortunately I was 13 when my grandmother died and her husband died just before I was born. I only know that Mary Jane Sullivan lived in East Malvern in a house owned by her brother-in-law Albert Sullivan. Never heard mention of Horace but then again if he died in 1953 there was probably no reason to mention him. Chances are he was Edwin's brother as Albert's middle name was Wearne It's a shame that when you are old enough to be interested in tracing your history it's too late to ask anyone.

As a matter of interest where do you find all this information?

Bev (Waddles)

by Morgan2409 on 2014-01-11 07:46:04

John Sullivan of Dunbulbalane (farmer) died 20th October 1890 according to his will/ probate.
Closest death that I can Find is
Jno Sullivan
Died 1889 Numurkah, Victoria ref#18157
Aged 57

by Morgan2409 on 2014-01-11 17:51:18

I think this is Edwin's brother.
Charles Frederick Sullivan married Ellen Salter 1909, Victoria reg#2914
Also appears that sister Clarice Sullivan married Fran Jas Salter 1905, Victoria reg#5047

THE LATE SERGEANT FRED.
SULLIVAN.
(Contributed.)
Another of our gallant young gentlemen gone. Oh, the disap- pointment of it all! Even though peace be in the air, Dennis's "little homes must still suffer." The numerous friends of Mrs Mary Sullivan, of Invergordon, received a terrible shock when they heard of the death of her noble son, Charles Frederick. He was beloved by all who knew him and as he was retiring and most unassuming it was pos- sible that many did not fully know him. He was a native of Ballarat, but lived the whole of his boyhood in Invergordon. He was a pupil of Miss Dunstan's (now Mrs Maslin), and was a studious lad. He spent some little time with Mr Cook, and
afterwards gained matriculation at Mr. Hassett's college. Owing to his manliness-his clean life -he became a great favourite
of Mr Hassett and his school mates. Fred, soon gained a position in the Education De-
partment as head teacher at Enoch's Point and Big River. The inspector soon discovered that honesty of purpose and thoroughness that charac- terised our young hero. He, was
sent to the Training College, Carlton, at which institution Fred, soon asserted himself. He carried all before him, and soon was sent out to wider fields as a trained teacher. His superior officer marked him very soon for
greater honors. After proving that he could serve his depart-
ment faithfully and success- fully he was sent to the Uni- versity, where his power to study was further demonstrated.
Fred, finished a brilliant period of four years there, and gathered in honors for himself, his wife, and his "little home" at Invergordon: he finished the
"Uni." course as Bachelor of Science. He was offered a very high position in the Forestry Department, but chose rather to serve his country, even if needs be, in the humblest capacity. His scientific training, however, soon made it clear to the War
Department that there was a useful niche for him to fill, and Sergeant Fred, was set to serve his country in the bacterio- logical branch of hospital work. He worked for a long period in Cairo and afterwards in Port Said. The terrible conditions under which our brave lads work in such places evidently undermined his constitution, as just a few days ago he collapsed as a result of an attack of
pneumonia and "went west." where many brave young gentle- men had gone before our hero. His wife was a daughter of Mr Salter, late of Marungi, and to her and her children we extend our deepest sympathy for the loss of one so beautiful, so clean, so noble. Our Australia cannot afford such as he and the loss is great, not only to his loved ones, but to his native land. Mrs. Sullivan (Fred's mother) has for years been an invalid, but she was proud to send two of her lads to serve the flag she loves, and now in her deep bereavement I am sure the deepest sympathy of the whole community has gone forth spontaneously, and no doubt she has been sustained by the arms of that deep, loving sympathy. The writer had known Fred, for a period of sixteen years, and he has no hesitation in saying that with the years the admiration grew and not without justifi- cation. He was a man and a soldier, and under every trial rang true as steel. The loss that Mrs. Sullivan and her little children have received is beyond any reparation that peace terms can make, but her loved one gave his life that posterity can enjoy that glorious liberty that can be bought only at such a
price.
27th November 1918,Numurkah Leader

by Morgan2409 on 2014-01-11 18:19:29

ALBERT WEARNE SULLIVAN

INVERGORDON.
WELCOME HOME TO PRIVATE
A. W. SULLIVAN.
The regalar arrival of the ships conveying the wounded brings home to people's minds grim pictures of the stupendous cost of liberty. Comple- mentary with these comes the
persdicable, comforting fact that there are many men determined to pay the price, whatever it may be.
Wounded or hale, won home from war,
Or yonder by the lone Pine laid, Give him his due for evermore
" The bravest thing God ever made."
Ogilvie's very just compliment cannot be too oft repeated. It expresses a feeling that has thrilled fair-minded men and women throughout the world
for the past three years ; but, alas, there are too many instances which exemplify the diabolical fact that the lesson it teaches has not yet been generally assimilated. Returned men are being welcomed home every week, but when the over-wrought guest realises that the mates be left in the war zone are going to be compelled to whistle for aid, he needs must feel that the welcome home is stripped of
its vitellus.
Many seek for peace and riches, Length of days and life of ease;
I have sought for one thing, which is Fairer unto me than these.
Glory. Dry those violet orbs that glisten, Darling, I have had my day ;
Place your hand in mine and listen, Ere the strong soul cleaves its way
Through the death mists hovering o'er
me.
As the stout ship cleaves the wave. To my fathers gone before me,
To the Gods who love the brave.
Private A. W. Sullivan, of Inver- gordon, participated in two of the hottest engagements yet undertaken by the Australian Army-the assault ui the Pozieres Ridge and he capture of the strerghold at Bullecourt. In the latter engagement he was severely
wounded, and returned to Australia early in January. He was welcomed home and presented with a gold medal by the residents of Invergor- don on Wednesday evening. In re- sponding to the speech of welcome, Private Sullivan briefly referred to a few of his experiences, and strove to give the people some idea of conditions prevailing in the war region. He emphasised the importance of the reinforcements question, and appealed to those who were sheltering them- selves behind petty excuses, to come
out into the world of men and do
their duty. Whilst many said they couldn't join the army because they had to grow wheat for the soldiers, he had been unable, up to the present, to find the wheat-grower who would part with his wheat before being guaranteed a very tidy price per bushel. He was sorry to be home befors victory had been won, and was quite determined to return again to the front as soon a the Defence Department could fit him up.
During the evening items wera ren- dered by Misses Rastin and Allert, and Messrs Dane, Jackson, Sullivan, Hodge and McBurney. Coffee and edibles of sweet variety were finally
handed round.

by Morgan2409 on 2014-01-11 18:27:31

DIED ON SERVICE.
SULLIVAN.-Officially reported,
Staff-Sergeant C. Fred. Sulli- van (A.A.M.C.), Anzac Field Laboratory, died of malaria and pneumonia at the 36th Stationary Hospital, Gaza, Palestine, on the 15th Novem- ber, 1918, after 2 years and 7 months on active service. Be- loved husband of Nellie, and father of Ronald and Ruby (Flemington),and beloved husband of Nellie, and father of Ronald and Ruby (Flem- ington), and beloved third son of Mary and the late John Sullivan (Invergordon), bro- ther of Horace, Lucy, Arthur, Clarice, Albert (A.I.F., re-
turned), and Edwin. Aged 37
years.
27th November 1918 Numurkah Leader

by waddles on 2014-01-11 19:06:41

Thanks everyone for the information, this is more than I could have asked for. It also answers a medical question about a hereditary condition passed down through the generations.

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